| 00:04:21 | dom96 | I think for C++ headers might be necessary |
| 00:09:09 | ephja | yeah |
| 00:10:06 | BlueProtoman | Okay. So, Box2D. Wrapper for a C++ project. Have wrappers refer to headers AND DLL? Do I need to include either with the wrapper? And can I support static builds of Box2D? |
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| 00:12:43 | ephja | and it reduces code bloat. there's a C wrapper I think, but it was outdated last time I checked |
| 00:13:17 | BlueProtoman | There's no Box2D wrapper. It's for Chipmunk. |
| 00:14:33 | ephja | there is, somewhere, but it doesn't matter |
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| 00:15:08 | ephja | DLL's are not needed at compile-time |
| 00:16:57 | ephja | there are some importcpp pattern examples on the forum too (just search for it) |
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| 03:30:12 | desophos | hey gmpreussner|work, want to port Sodium to Nim? :D |
| 03:30:21 | desophos | re: the FRP book |
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| 09:29:54 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 716c12a Charles Blake [+0 ±1 -0]: Fix loop index bug in scan for a[s] in b[s..s+len2-1].... 3 more lines |
| 09:29:54 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel a1df79d Charles Blake [+0 ±1 -0]: Add a unit test that covers issue 3477... 1 more lines |
| 09:29:54 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 3c5a0b1 Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±2 -0]: Merge pull request #3563 from c-blake/devel... 2 more lines |
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| 09:37:41 | yglukhov | hey guys, chech out the future of gamedev: https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl |
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| 11:18:35 | dom96 | yglukhov: awesome! |
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| 14:15:36 | theduke | Am i right in assuming that data structures like tables / sequences basically can only be used in a multi-threading context when they only hold non-garbage collected memory? since every thread has it's own heap, all traced objects get destroyed when the the thread finishes (right?) |
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| 15:05:13 | coffeepot | theduke: AFAIK that's mostly correct, though you can of course lock/unlock them to use them across threads, but it's generally a better idea to use ptr type across threads |
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| 15:05:59 | coffeepot | although as you say if the thread finishes I think it might end up being unsafe to use GC refs. Best just use ptr |
| 15:06:50 | coffeepot | ptr can be typed and aside from manually managing memory alloc/dealloc can be used like ref |
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| 15:08:08 | coffeepot | there is also channels specifically for this purpose though http://nim-lang.org/docs/channels.html |
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| 15:12:25 | coffeepot | and http://nim-lang.org/docs/threadpool.html though I've not used either of these personally |
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| 16:03:23 | andrewvos | Anyone cross compiled a binary 32+64 bit? |
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| 19:05:58 | gmpreussner|work | desophos: yesterday i was about to say "no, i'm not in the porting business", but after reading the first two chapters, I'd like to reconsider :) |
| 19:06:39 | gmpreussner|work | i think there are some good ideas in the book. i have struggled with the same kind of problems for the past two years and also came to the conclusion that there are no good solutions in the context of OOP |
| 19:06:56 | gmpreussner|work | i think that I, too, would have arrived at something like FRP |
| 19:07:15 | gmpreussner|work | that being said, i looked at the Java implementation and, naturally, found it quite convoluted |
| 19:07:41 | gmpreussner|work | their Haskell implementation is more concise, but, of course, completely unreadable |
| 19:08:02 | gmpreussner|work | i think Nim could be a great fit for this. the only problem i see right now is our lack of a compact syntax for lambdas |
| 19:10:24 | gmpreussner|work | certainly, their acrobatics with CellLoop and StreamLoop wouldn't be needed in Nim though. we also wouldn't need their emulation of lambdas in Java. |
| 19:11:36 | gmpreussner|work | i still need to better understand their use and implementation of transactions. it seems like a lot of added complexity, which may be necessary, but gives me stomach cramps - especially since there may be thousands of streams and cells in an application, and the overhead seems significant |
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| 19:19:04 | federico3 | do we need hex stickers for Nim as well? https://git-annex.branchable.com/stickers/ |
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| 19:25:51 | desophos | gmpreussner|work: i've only read the first chapter so far, so i don't really have ideas about *how* to port it yet |
| 19:26:00 | desophos | it was just an idea |
| 19:26:14 | desophos | i think it would be great to have it in Nim |
| 19:28:03 | gmpreussner|work | we should definitely study it and see how exactly it fits. the book is excellent - perhaps the best programming book i read this year - but the Java implementation somewhat curbed my enthusiasm |
| 19:28:24 | gmpreussner|work | so i think i'm just going to read the rest of the book this weekend to fully understand the concepts |
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| 19:30:53 | desophos | cool! me too |
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| 22:44:24 | mat4 | does there exist the possibility to import all definations of a module inclusive private ones ? |
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| 22:44:54 | mat4 | (beside 'include') |
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| 23:08:15 | gmpreussner|work | mat4: make the symbols not private? |
| 23:08:29 | gmpreussner|work | other than that, include is the way to go |
| 23:08:41 | gmpreussner|work | import for private symbols seems like a bad idea |
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