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05:05:23FromDiscord<litlighilit> std&#47;strformat↵(@krisp0)
05:17:02FromDiscord<litlighilit> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/zlpcPUWv
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07:41:03FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> Is there a proc in Nim to do `assert ("-" 5) == "-----"`?
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14:05:03FromDiscord<krissh.wtf> hello is it possible to format the json from the `%` operator when writing to a file only using the standard library
14:05:20FromDiscord<krissh.wtf> since its written in one line
14:11:48FromDiscord<nasuray> In reply to @krissh.wtf "hello is it possible": Yep! `pretty(someJson)` (https://nim-lang.org/docs/json.html#pretty%2CJsonNode%2Cint)
14:14:54FromDiscord<krissh.wtf> oh thank you!
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16:02:42FromDiscord<__sxp__> This might be a long-shot, but does anyone know if there were any experiments with using Nim on 16-bit (real-mode) x86 target?
16:03:14FromDiscord<__sxp__> Might be useful for OSDev where you don't really want to build an assembly stuff to put you into protected mode or long mode
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16:03:29FromDiscord<__sxp__> also, for DOS programs without using extenders
16:04:02FromDiscord<__sxp__> gcc-ia16 and openwatcom does support such targets so IT MIGHT WORK in theory, but I wonder how Nim would work with segmented memory layout
16:47:29FromDiscord<sOkam (alt)> In reply to @__sxp__ "gcc-ia16 and openwatcom does": should be doable with arc and good compile flags for gcc. or using the compiler you mentioned↵haven't done unusual targets myself, but I've seen people do embedded around here before↵it's a matter of figuring out the build flags I'd say
17:22:30FromDiscord<__sxp__> I had some great success with Amiga but I think that was already covered
17:22:45FromDiscord<__sxp__> And you have rather simple system with linear memory there
17:23:17FromDiscord<__sxp__> On DOS it’s more like a jungle with interrupts and ports and that memory layout I mentioned
17:31:23FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> In reply to @__sxp__ "This might be a": I use it routinely on AVR which is 8bit, 16-bit addressable/program memory
17:32:00FromDiscord<__sxp__> But AVR doesn’t use weird paging/window stuff in memory layout?
17:32:24FromDiscord<__sxp__> Aside of that it’s pretty interesting, could you tell me more?
17:32:52FromDiscord<__sxp__> I assume it’s something more elaborate than atmega328p on a stick?
17:33:12FromDiscord<__sxp__> (However, I wouldn’t mind running nim on that, too :D)
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18:42:28FromDiscord<blashyrk> Is Nim's `ptr` type completely unmanaged? Meaning if I store a `ptr` to some `ref object` does it become dangling if the pointee gets deallocated/moved?
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19:21:19FromDiscord<blashyrk> Also, there seems to be no weak reference type in Nim at all? Or at least I cannot find it. The problem I'm having is having a bunch of refcount increases/decreases in short lived objects in a hot loop (parallelized across many threads). If I change the data in the short lived object to `ptr MyRef` instead of just `MyRef` I get 8x speedup, but this is obviously unsafe
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19:33:17FromDiscord<lainlaylie> In reply to @blashyrk "Is Nim's `ptr` type": yes
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20:57:31FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=QGPZjkLK
20:59:13FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> otherwise for now i'll just comment out the JS tests and put a warning in the readme of my fork
21:06:11FromDiscord<kentrid> In reply to @__sxp__ "This might be a": You can try using https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/19742, the PR changes are minimal so you can apply them locally
21:08:16FromDiscord<__sxp__> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/MxgHhpAr
21:09:02FromDiscord<__sxp__> but I know saying that out loud will actually make Araq remove support for Amiga / Atari ST
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22:27:52FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> uhh so int on js is 32 bit, silently??? i get a new different error elsewhere making that int64
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22:30:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a JS number isn't it
22:30:58FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> i guess
22:31:20FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> i was hoping nim would just do whatever to make it behave the same
22:31:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Which means it's valid for like 2^53..(2^53)-1
22:31:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is a flag to make int's ints
22:33:02FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> oh is it a float internally? (that feels like where it can no longer get a precision of 1 or less)
22:34:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `--jsbigint64` will control whether `int` is a number or bigint
22:34:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes JS numbers are floats
22:34:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> JS does not have integers as primitives
22:34:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It has bigint and typed arrays
22:34:44FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> hm then i will try with that instead actually
22:36:20FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> hm well i got the same error as before using that, but maybe it can fix the next errors (it got wrong values)
22:36:27FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> nope
22:37:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Seems it's only sized 64 bit integers that are forced to big int
22:37:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So you'd have to use `int64` everywhere
22:38:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> JS is sill
22:38:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> silly\
22:38:06FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> yeah
22:38:38FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> im thinking im just gonna leave a warning that it doesn't work correctly with crc32 on web
22:39:04FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> oh also can nimble requires use a github url instead of nimble package?
22:39:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a decentralized package manager, so yes
22:39:38FromDiscord<morgan (ping with reply)> ok
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