| 00:01:30 | ekarlso | dom96: which method there is it one should use ? |
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| 00:17:22 | BlaXpirit | so I'm using unittest |
| 00:17:30 | BlaXpirit | assert(expr) works |
| 00:17:57 | BlaXpirit | check(the same expr) Error: expression 'missingItems' cannot be called |
| 00:18:12 | flaviu | BlaXpirit: Can you post code? |
| 00:18:39 | BlaXpirit | it's easily reproducible, now that I think about it |
| 00:20:56 | flaviu | It may be easy to reproduce, but I don't know how to reproduce it. |
| 00:21:02 | flaviu | I'd like to fix it |
| 00:21:21 | BlaXpirit | flaviu, https://bpaste.net/show/3655ca17068c |
| 00:22:05 | BlaXpirit | does not need to be a generic actually |
| 00:33:50 | Cykacykacyka | why does nim complain about not being able to identify dbFormat when I've imported db_sqlite ? |
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| 00:37:17 | reactormonk | Cykacykacyka, exact error? |
| 00:37:34 | Cykacykacyka | db_acts.nim|14 col 23 error| undeclared identifier: 'dbFormat' |
| 00:37:41 | Cykacykacyka | db_acts.nim|14 col 31 error| expression 'dbFormat(unform_str, user_id)' cannot be called |
| 00:38:44 | nimnoob123 | fowl was it you who told me that my error was a bug regarding the ref object use in this snippet https://gist.github.com/G4MR/43718393b67128450dcf, because now I'm using 0.10.3 and if I try to change both obj's to a ref I get this error http://pastie.org/9970147 |
| 00:39:29 | fowl | nimnoob123, thats the same error you were getting on 0.10.2 |
| 00:39:38 | nimnoob123 | yeah |
| 00:40:47 | fowl | nimnoob123, try this https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/74bd31089c0cd3545f26 |
| 00:41:24 | nimnoob123 | worked |
| 00:42:16 | fowl | nimnoob123, your example compiles and runs for me |
| 00:42:27 | fowl | i believe you're still on 0.10.2 |
| 00:42:28 | nimnoob123 | that example was the working code |
| 00:42:40 | nimnoob123 | i said when i changed them to ref obj |
| 00:42:48 | nimnoob123 | sec let me show you the errored code |
| 00:42:51 | fowl | nimnoob123, you just said ref obj (my example) worked |
| 00:43:16 | nimnoob123 | your example worked yes, let me show you the code that didn't compile for me |
| 00:43:30 | fowl | yes that would help.. |
| 00:44:22 | nimnoob123 | thought it was clear when I said when I used "ref's on the object type in my working snippet that it broke: https://gist.github.com/G4MR/372747924cc26927f089 |
| 00:44:57 | fowl | this is not really what you want |
| 00:45:07 | fowl | output() takes ref ref T |
| 00:47:51 | nimnoob123 | yeah I'm still not fairly sure how to properly use references and pointers in nim tbh, just went based on examples and went for the best |
| 00:48:25 | Cykacykacyka | erm, am I not allowed to exec dbFormat ? |
| 00:48:53 | nimnoob123 | all I know is i couldn't get my objects to live along enough in my other project so I started testing to try figuring out what's going on, which I'm still fairly left confused on the syntax in general |
| 00:49:11 | fowl | nimnoob123, there does seem to be a codegen error when using double refs |
| 00:50:42 | nimnoob123 | i found a bug on accident, yay? lol |
| 00:51:11 | Cykacykacyka | am I right in saying that at the moment, the best way to format strings for sql queries is to do it manually ? |
| 00:52:45 | fowl | Cykacykacyka, no clue what "dbFormat" is, the db_ modules have exec() functions that will escape for you |
| 00:53:36 | Cykacykacyka | I just understood the problem, I was reading the code, but I was ignoring the fact that I could pass extra arguments to exec and that would do everything I ever needed |
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| 00:54:28 | nimnoob123 | guess I'll wait on that Effective Nim or Nim Primer book because everything I read on references/pointers aren't that clear |
| 00:57:27 | fowl | nimnoob123, you know what a pointer is |
| 00:57:31 | fowl | ? |
| 00:57:44 | nimnoob123 | yes |
| 00:57:54 | fowl | a ref is a pointer that you dont have to cleanup |
| 00:59:06 | fowl | so if you say type MyObj = ref object and then proc somefunc(foo: ref MyObj) somefunc acts on a pointer to a pointer to some data |
| 01:00:10 | flaviu | fowl: That shouldn't be `ref object` |
| 01:00:29 | nimnoob123 | yeah I get that, what I don't get is what's going on with the ref object |
| 01:00:40 | Cykacykacyka | erm, what would be a datatype to store date ? |
| 01:01:00 | def- | Cykacykacyka: see the times module |
| 01:01:01 | fowl | right no *Obj type should be a ref |
| 01:02:29 | nimnoob123 | type myobject = ref object of RootObj - RootObj is built in right?, I see this all the time when reading source yet I'm not sure why you do that |
| 01:03:02 | fowl | root obj is just a base object type you can inherit from |
| 01:03:13 | fowl | by default if you had type foo = object foo would not be inheritable |
| 01:03:39 | nimnoob123 | so ref indicates that you can inherit from that object |
| 01:03:53 | fowl | no |
| 01:04:02 | nimnoob123 | then you lost me |
| 01:04:03 | fowl | ref means garbage collected |
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| 01:05:26 | fowl | "MyObj = object of rootobj" - this object descends from RootObj |
| 01:05:56 | fowl | "MyRef = ref MyObj" - this is a garbage collected reference to a MyObj |
| 01:06:37 | flaviu | nimnoob123: You can have inheritance without garbage collection and garbage collection without inheritance. |
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| 01:06:46 | fowl | "MyRef = ref object of RootObj" - this is the same as the last two except there is no MyObj plain data type, only reference semantics |
| 01:07:13 | fowl | hopefully that made sense |
| 01:09:24 | nimnoob123 | somewhat more so than the tutorial |
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| 01:47:12 | Schala | Forum doesn't have a "forgot password" function, does it? |
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| 01:54:49 | flaviu | Schala: Nope, just make a new account. |
| 01:55:18 | Schala | darn... that neweds to be fixed |
| 01:55:21 | Schala | needs* |
| 01:56:14 | flaviu | Preventing emails from getting caught in spam filters is a major PITA apparently, so I don't see it being fixed soon. |
| 01:57:15 | Schala | I see |
| 01:58:44 | Schala | ooo I got my codec to work |
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| 02:43:00 | reactormonk | Araq, what should be the behaviour of "split"? |
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| 03:27:55 | Cykacykacyka | oh god, how do I calculate the distance between two points on earth expressed as latitude/longitude ? |
| 03:29:45 | flaviu | Cykacykacyka: slightly offtopic, but http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/reference/operator/query-geospatial/ |
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| 04:58:01 | Cykacykacyka | erm, I am having trouble converting degrees to radians |
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| 05:27:49 | fowl | Cykacykacyka, http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/accircuits/acp21.gif |
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| 07:38:59 | Cykacykacyka | fowl, it was a problem with me being sleep deprived and checking against garbage data... oh well. |
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| 08:40:04 | Cykacykacyka | is there a nice way to unpack a jsonified array of strings ? |
| 08:46:07 | BlaXpirit | Cykacykacyka, explain |
| 08:46:51 | BlaXpirit | you have a json-node-array that contains json-node-strings and you want seq-of-strings ? |
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| 08:50:25 | Cykacykacyka | yes |
| 08:50:29 | Cykacykacyka | I want exactly that |
| 08:53:03 | BlaXpirit | .give Cykacykacyka import json, sequtils;echo(parseJson("""["a", "b", "cd"]""").mapIt(string, it.str)) |
| 08:53:07 | Mimbus | Cykacykacyka: @[a, b, cd] |
| 08:55:52 | Cykacykacyka | wait, so to go from a JsonNode object holding an array, I have to pass it's string representation to a jsonParserer ? |
| 08:58:16 | BlaXpirit | no |
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| 09:09:17 | Cykacykacyka | ok, that I understood. How do I get a non string value out of a JsonNode ? |
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| 09:34:04 | akiradeveloper | I think I will implement msgpack binding for nim |
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| 09:35:03 | akiradeveloper | I almost finished fuse binding. If there is no msgpack binding, that will be my next work. |
| 09:35:40 | akiradeveloper | Is someone else already working on msgpack? |
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| 10:45:28 | TEttinger | akiradeveloper: I'm in the same channel as one of the developers of conspack, is there any relation to msgpack? |
| 10:47:30 | TEttinger | wow, msgpack looks nice |
| 10:49:36 | TEttinger | interesting, apparently the lispers weren't happy with some of msgpack https://github.com/conspack/cl-conspack#cl-conspack |
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| 11:23:42 | dom96 | Cykacykacyka: JsonNode is documented here: http://nim-lang.org/json.html#JsonNode |
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| 11:41:02 | Cykacykacyka | I found a way to do it, but the lack of documentation on jsonnode.fnum and .num was confusing. |
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| 11:45:06 | dom96 | Yeah. I think we need proper getters for those. |
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| 11:53:03 | akiradeveloper | I heard conspack for the first time. I think they are different. I've just created the repo https://github.com/akiradeveloper/msgpack-nim and now reading the spec doc |
| 11:56:35 | def- | akiradeveloper: nice, I could really use msgpack-nim to port some of my slow python scripts |
| 12:05:09 | akiradeveloper | ok. I will do my best to quickly release it. |
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| 12:13:30 | Cykacykacyka | is there a nice way of creating a circular linked list ? |
| 12:13:40 | def- | Cykacykacyka: lists module |
| 12:13:56 | def- | DoublyLinkedRing |
| 12:15:12 | Cykacykacyka | def-, thank you very much. Even though over the last 24 hours I've become rather skeptic towards nim, you guys have been wonderful in aiding my adventure with nim. |
| 12:16:19 | def- | how comes you're skeptical now? |
| 12:17:19 | ekarlso | hmm |
| 12:18:10 | Cykacykacyka | it's the little things that don't make sense, Then again, I believe my outlook could be a lot different had I read the tutorials before I just dived head deep and tried to solve a not as trivial of a problem as it turned out to be. |
| 12:18:17 | ekarlso | can nim compile from stdin ? |
| 12:18:31 | ekarlso | looking at https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-playpen/blob/master/bin/evaluate.sh that's what they do |
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| 12:20:19 | def- | ekarlso: haven't found a way. shouldn't hurt to make a temporary file, right? |
| 12:20:34 | ekarlso | def-: yeh |
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| 12:37:31 | Varriount|Mobile | onionhammer: Ugh, I just ran into a ST2 bug |
| 12:48:30 | ekarlso | where is a mkdir call in nim ? |
| 12:49:35 | ekarlso | ah, createDir |
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| 13:22:33 | def- | Nim landed on HN again, here's the link if anyone wants to participate in the discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9088640 |
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| 13:46:20 | Varriount|Mobile | def-: Is it good, or bad? |
| 13:46:34 | Varriount|Mobile | I don't want to read bad news. |
| 13:46:51 | dv- | it's neither i guess |
| 13:47:37 | def- | Varriount|Mobile: it's an old article, pretty nice on Nim I'd say |
| 13:49:02 | def- | the comments seem fair too |
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| 16:08:01 | ekarlso | how do you specify that a return is a tuple ? |
| 16:08:12 | ekarlso | proc foo(): tuple[string, string] = ? |
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| 16:27:04 | aidanh | Hello, quick question; is it possible to import a module from a different directory? (something like import ../../modulename) |
| 16:28:57 | aidanh | Never mind; found out how to do it |
| 16:29:24 | federico3 | Meanwhile, Nim is on HN again: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9088640 |
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| 16:42:12 | aidanh | That article is what prompted me to start with Nim actually |
| 16:51:05 | federico3 | heh |
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| 17:39:45 | def- | welcome elbow |
| 17:41:14 | ekarlso | how can you check if a nr is even in nim |
| 17:41:29 | Varriount | ekarlso: You mean, an integer? |
| 17:41:39 | ekarlso | Varriount: ya |
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| 17:42:15 | Varriount | ekarlso: Um, well you could do the obvious way: '(n mod 2) == 0) |
| 17:42:23 | Varriount | ' |
| 17:42:29 | ekarlso | ah |
| 17:42:33 | ekarlso | I was thinking % op |
| 17:42:54 | Varriount | ekarlso: I think there's a way to do it with bit twiddling that might be faster. |
| 17:43:56 | def- | Varriount: compiler should be intelligent enough to do that (I hope) |
| 17:44:23 | def- | (n and 1) == 0 |
| 17:44:39 | Varriount | def-: Yeah, that's what I thought |
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| 17:55:44 | nimnoob123 | Araq any plans on adding a :visited css option to forum links? Trying to see which forum threads I've read is pretty difficult right now lol |
| 17:57:02 | def- | nimnoob123: you could do it yourself and make a PR |
| 17:57:11 | def- | nimnoob123: sounds like something useful to have |
| 17:57:24 | nimnoob123 | didn't know the forum was on gh |
| 17:57:37 | def- | https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum |
| 17:58:21 | nimnoob123 | alright cool |
| 17:59:39 | nimnoob123 | Going to use: #1a1a1a, looks the best and you're already using that color on the new user/post/thread count bar |
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| 18:13:49 | nimnoob123 | def- already I sent a pull request |
| 18:13:56 | nimnoob123 | alright*, man it's early |
| 18:14:36 | elbow | nimnoob123: You in Asia? |
| 18:14:42 | nimnoob123 | and by early I mean I just woke up |
| 18:14:47 | elbow | lolol |
| 18:15:05 | nimnoob123 | noon here, central us |
| 18:15:18 | elbow | 11 Arizona |
| 18:16:01 | nimnoob123 | Missouri here |
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| 18:26:04 | elbow | WOW. Jester is a beauty |
| 18:27:46 | nimnoob123 | elbow, huh? |
| 18:28:04 | elbow | nimnoob123: https://github.com/dom96/jester |
| 18:28:41 | nimnoob123 | ah |
| 18:31:00 | onionhammer | Varriount|Mobile what bug? |
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| 20:11:11 | BlaXpirit | so I just had an idea |
| 20:11:19 | BlaXpirit | if we have anonymous procs |
| 20:11:31 | BlaXpirit | and if someone wants to use a non-procvar proc as an argument |
| 20:11:41 | BlaXpirit | they're just gonna wrap it in an anonymous proc anyway |
| 20:11:52 | BlaXpirit | so why not make this (almost?) automatic? |
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| 20:30:18 | def- | BlaXpirit: how would this be different from the solution to make everything implicitly procvar? |
| 20:30:36 | BlaXpirit | def-, I assume procvar has downsides |
| 20:30:40 | BlaXpirit | such as performance |
| 20:30:58 | BlaXpirit | otherwise people wouldn't even consider leaving non-procvar in |
| 20:31:02 | def- | i hope when something is set as procvar it's only used as procvar when really necessary |
| 20:31:13 | def- | and not for every proc call |
| 20:31:18 | BlaXpirit | one can hope, yes |
| 20:31:32 | BlaXpirit | I had that thought earlier but it was before sleeping so i forgot |
| 20:31:51 | def- | i assume so because in your own module everything is implicitly procvar, isn't it? |
| 20:32:01 | BlaXpirit | yeah... |
| 20:32:07 | BlaXpirit | so then really |
| 20:32:19 | BlaXpirit | what IS the point of leaving non-procvar |
| 20:32:51 | def- | it had to do with adding default parameters to a proc later on |
| 20:33:07 | def- | that would destroy backwards-compatibility when the proc was used as procvar |
| 20:33:33 | ekarlso | def pondering the temp file thing though with playpen |
| 20:33:37 | ekarlso | how and where to insert it |
| 20:34:08 | def- | ekarlso: we could also add - as stdin as most programs do |
| 20:34:09 | ekarlso | it's supposed to have support for a -b <folder> to mount <folder> but it seems to not be able to mount it to a destination path |
| 20:34:21 | ekarlso | def-: how hard would that be ? :D |
| 20:35:06 | def- | ekarlso: not hard i believe, since - is already forbidden in *.nim filenames |
| 20:35:17 | def- | ekarlso: do you want to try it or should I? |
| 20:41:14 | nimnoob123 | where can i see a list of things left before 1.0? |
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| 20:43:52 | BlaXpirit | http://google.com#q=site:nim-lang.org+roadmap |
| 20:44:28 | BlaXpirit | which gives, among other things, https://github.com/Araq/Nim/blob/devel/todo.txt https://github.com/Araq/Nim/wiki/Roadmap |
| 20:45:02 | BlaXpirit | but I don't think there is a list that is comprehensive and up to date |
| 20:45:57 | def- | that todo sounds like there's a lot missing |
| 20:46:06 | def- | I like that nimble will become part of the distribution |
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| 20:48:20 | nimnoob123 | thanks |
| 20:50:32 | ekarlso | def-: if you could it would be awesomes |
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| 20:51:15 | def- | ekarlso: ok, let me take a look |
| 20:52:34 | ekarlso | :) |
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| 21:00:42 | Mat4 | hi all |
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| 21:48:58 | federico3 | hi Mat4 |
| 21:50:01 | Mat4 | hello federico3 |
| 22:00:07 | ekarlso | def-: did you get to it ? :) |
| 22:01:01 | def- | ekarlso: I'm close! |
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| 22:08:03 | ekarlso | def-: :P |
| 22:08:32 | nimnoob123 | quick question: As I'm messing around more with sdl2 bindings and notice that any proc that returns SDL_Return must be discarded, but some of the methods don't use the discardable pragma yet you can still discard the methods. Why is that? |
| 22:08:58 | def- | not sure how useful this is though, nimcache still gets created, and if two compiler instances run on the same nimcache at the same time things will go wrong |
| 22:09:29 | def- | nimnoob123: probably a {.push: disardable.} pragma before? |
| 22:09:50 | nimnoob123 | let me check |
| 22:09:56 | Araq | nimnoob123: if it is as you say, that's a bug, unless def-'s idea is true |
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| 22:10:32 | def- | I see {.discardable.} on every proc returning SDL_Return |
| 22:10:52 | nimnoob123 | https://github.com/nim-lang/sdl2/blob/master/src/sdl2/ttf.nim |
| 22:10:55 | def- | ah, not quite all. which one did you test, nimnoob123 ? |
| 22:11:02 | nimnoob123 | ttfInit |
| 22:11:42 | ekarlso | def-: is it possible to specify the nimcache dir of the compiler ? :D |
| 22:11:47 | def- | ekarlso: yes |
| 22:11:52 | ekarlso | problem solved :p |
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| 22:12:13 | def- | ekarlso: then you could also just create a temp dir for every uploaded file and make a file there, but ok |
| 22:12:41 | def- | nimnoob123: for me it fails to compile with "value of type 'SDL_Return' has to be discarded" |
| 22:13:07 | ekarlso | def-: yeah, that was what I was thinking but I thought to store each run in a central folder and use play's mount ability |
| 22:13:08 | nimnoob123 | yeah when i call discard on it it compiles, but there's no pragma set for that method |
| 22:13:22 | def- | nimnoob123: you can discard anything |
| 22:13:23 | ekarlso | but for some reason you can't say -B <src folder> <dst inside chroot> |
| 22:13:30 | ekarlso | def-: are you ok at C ? |
| 22:13:31 | def- | {.discardable.} just means you don't even have to use "discard" |
| 22:13:40 | def- | ekarlso: i guess so |
| 22:13:41 | nimnoob123 | ah okay |
| 22:13:57 | ekarlso | def-: would you care to look at it quickly ? :p |
| 22:14:03 | ekarlso | probably a little fix |
| 22:14:05 | ekarlso | :p |
| 22:14:23 | def- | ekarlso: link? |
| 22:14:27 | nimnoob123 | guess i should add one to the ttfquit then |
| 22:14:58 | ekarlso | figuring it's this https://github.com/thestinger/playpen/blob/master/playpen.c#L82 def- |
| 22:15:08 | ekarlso | that does the actual mounting |
| 22:15:32 | def- | ekarlso: and what's wrong with it? |
| 22:15:55 | ekarlso | def-: if you specify -b /tmp/fooo it assumes you want to mount that directory as /tmp/fooo inside the jail as well |
| 22:16:53 | def- | ekarlso: i don't understand |
| 22:17:32 | ekarlso | def-: if you specify playpen -b <path to mount> like /mnt/foo/bar it will assume you want to mount it as /mnt/foo/bar inside the jail as well |
| 22:18:07 | ekarlso | vs allowing smthing like playpen -b <src>:<dst> or smth like it |
| 22:18:19 | def- | ekarlso: no idea, sorry |
| 22:18:28 | ekarlso | def-: it should be rly simple :P |
| 22:18:30 | ekarlso | but ok |
| 22:18:39 | ekarlso | i'll create the file inside the chroot then instead :p |
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| 22:24:00 | def- | ekarlso: there you go: https://github.com/Araq/Nim/pull/2202 |
| 22:25:21 | def- | nim -r c - < hello.nim |
| 22:29:12 | nimnoob123 | https://github.com/nim-lang/sdl2/pull/29 there we go |
| 22:32:17 | fowl | nimnoob123, do the other init functions have discardable |
| 22:32:28 | nimnoob123 | iirc they all do except that one |
| 22:32:38 | nimnoob123 | the ones that return SDL_Return |
| 22:32:51 | fowl | ok |
| 22:32:52 | fowl | thanks |
| 22:39:43 | def- | Hm, there is another sdl2 wrapper still in development: https://github.com/Vladar4/sdl2-nim |
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| 22:45:04 | nimnoob123 | yeah he actively updates it too |
| 22:45:04 | BlaXpirit | :| |
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| 22:45:59 | BlaXpirit | well certainly looks better |
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| 22:46:18 | nimnoob123 | curious if it's just him wanting to understand nim or if he doesn't know about the officially supported one ;o, going to create an issue to ask ;) |
| 22:46:41 | nimnoob123 | yeah it is clean |
| 22:46:43 | BlaXpirit | nimnoob123, he's been here for a very long time |
| 22:47:08 | BlaXpirit | https://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame/commit/4471ef8c2a929bbd1e3b14bf840f83f6c96faeb2 "2 Jun 2012" nuff said |
| 22:47:11 | nimnoob123 | ah |
| 22:47:46 | BlaXpirit | probably just really tired of the typical half-assed wrappers |
| 22:49:54 | nimnoob123 | i do like how he kept it as close to the original source as possible |
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| 23:42:42 | azkaban | how to send html with smtp.nim? |
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| 23:47:31 | fowl | ^ set content-type to text/html |
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