<< 22-02-2022 >>
00:03:53FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @qb "Guess you're looking for": This is the right answer here
00:18:41FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QkY
00:23:23FromDiscord<atlx> hi so im new
00:23:34FromDiscord<atlx> taken a look at the syntax, seems pretty awesome
00:23:59FromDiscord<atlx> im mostly interested currently in compiler design, working on one in Rust
00:24:07FromDiscord<atlx> what's your opinions on how Nim compares to Rust?
00:24:32PMunchQuite a big subject to cover
00:24:50FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QkZ
00:24:54PMunchI'd say Nim is way easier to learn and use, at least all the people coming here from Rust says that
00:25:20PMunchNim targets C, which means that you can run Nim anywhere you can run C
00:25:36PMunchIt also makes interoperability with C really easy
00:28:28PMunchBesides it has an amazing macro system which can make all the difference
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00:38:30FromDiscord<creikey> Nims macros are just so much nicer than rusts
00:51:17FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @qb "Guess you're looking for": what if 0 was sum else ? like [3:15]
00:52:28FromDiscord<qb> huh? Should be [3..15]
00:52:33FromDiscord<$$$> oh lmao alr
00:58:42FromDiscord<atlx> In reply to @PMunch "Nim targets C, which": that is great to know
00:58:45FromDiscord<atlx> wasn't aware thanks
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01:10:50FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @$$$ "what if 0 was": you can also do `[0..^2]`, which would be the same as `[0:-1]`
01:23:48FromDiscord<$$$> is my vscode bugging or am i doing something very wrong https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945491026582315109/unknown.png
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01:29:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What's the compiler say
01:31:23FromDiscord<$$$> yea i fixed it the documentation was ahead of the actual version for some reason
01:48:56NimEventerNew question by itil memek cantik: Nim have to convert string to int the simplest, see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71215018/nim-have-to-convert-string-to-int-the-simplest
01:52:39FromDiscord<qb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlg
01:52:50FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlg" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlh"
01:52:57FromDiscord<qb> (edit)
01:54:11FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlh" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlj"
01:57:19FromDiscord<huantian> @abdu is there a reason you don't want to use the standard library? It would just be easier and less error prone to use parseutils.parseInt
01:57:36FromDiscord<huantian> I would reply on SO but I don't have enough rep grrrr
02:15:46FromDiscord<abdu> How to convert string to int the simplest native way without module import ..
02:23:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dead simple
02:23:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlo
02:23:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also dead dumb
02:23:57FromDiscord<huantian> what if my int is negative tho beef 😛
02:26:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You check it then use `toOpenArray` 😛
02:28:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qlr
02:28:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> guess we could just do `-parseInt(str.toOpenArray(1, str.len - 1))` instead of being fucking weird
02:33:26FromDiscord<chancy> So it seems like one of the ways to get the correct SDK on OSX is to do something like `$(xcrun --sdk macosx --find clang) -isysroot $(xcrun --sdk macosx --show-sdk-path) -arch arm64`. What the appropriate way to feed this to Nim? `--cc` seems to just expect simple input like gcc, clang, etc.
02:47:08FromDiscord<retkid> In reply to @qb "On the examples nimpy": very intuitive syntax here
02:48:10FromDiscord<concatime> Quick question folks. I'm on Linux, and I use `clang`. When building Nim from source, I get `Error: execution of an external compiler program 'gcc -c -w -I/build/Nim-1.2.18/lib -I/build/Nim-1.2.18 -o /tmp/cache/nim/koch_d/stdlib_assertions.nim.c.o /tmp/cache/nim/koch_d/stdlib_assertions.nim.c' failed with exit code: 127`. I already set the env. var`CC` to `clang`.
02:48:35FromDiscord<concatime> Now, how do I tell nim to use clang?
02:48:40FromDiscord<demotomohiro> --cc option just specify kind of compiler. If you want to do cross compile, you need to set `arm64.osx.clang.exe = <clang-exe-name>` in nim.cfg.
02:55:40FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Building Nim from source with other than gcc might require editing `build_all.sh`
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03:00:42FromDiscord<demotomohiro> If you have working Nim compiler that is same version to source code, build koch with existig nim with --cc:clang and `./koch boot -d:release --cc:clang` might work.
03:09:27FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Or just changing `cc = gcc` to `cc = clang` in `compile/nim.cfg` might work.
03:13:28FromDiscord<concatime> Yep, that's what I did after you pointed my to `--cc`. I just want to say that Nim a bless to bootstrap. Have you tried to bootstrap `F#`?
03:15:10FromDiscord<huantian> I want to try F# at some point... seems pretty functional
03:18:16FromDiscord<$$$> can someone explain pragmas
03:18:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They can be annotations and macros
03:19:36FromDiscord<$$$> can u use multiple
03:19:55FromDiscord<huantian> yes
03:19:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
03:20:02FromDiscord<$$$> also what does `"template/generic instantiation of await from here"`
03:20:03FromDiscord<$$$> mean
03:20:11FromDiscord<$$$> i get it when calling an await procedure
03:21:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> an "await procedure"?
03:21:39FromDiscord<$$$> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945520686556925952/unknown.png
03:21:44FromDiscord<$$$> async
03:21:46FromDiscord<$$$> my bad
03:22:22FromDiscord<huantian> that means you used the await macro to do something, but the stuff that the macro made made an error
03:22:35FromDiscord<huantian> I think?
03:22:52FromDiscord<$$$> when i call it
03:22:53FromDiscord<$$$> `Error: 'yield' only allowed in an iterator`
03:22:59FromDiscord<$$$> `nim-1.6.4\lib\pure\asyncmacro.nim(130, 3) Error: 'yield' only allowed in an iterator`
03:24:27FromDiscord<$$$> idek what that means
03:25:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> do you have `import std/asyncdispatch`?
03:25:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you're attempting to await a async procedure in a non async procedure
03:26:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> do `waitfor thingy()`
03:28:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont get why it doesnt do anything helpful
03:28:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Like maybe a "attempting to await async inside non async procedure"
03:28:41FromDiscord<huantian> yeah wonder why await doesn't give an error like that
03:29:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well it involves getting the owner of the present symbol so it's somewhat difficult
03:29:36FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @huantian "yeah wonder why await": ye i had no idea what "Error: 'yield' only allowed in an iterator" meant
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03:30:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well i say somewhat difficult but it's more tedious than difficult
03:30:20FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Well it involves getting": ~~what if you just check if yield compiles~~
03:30:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> that'd work
03:30:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> go PR it
03:36:58FromDiscord<$$$> final question, how do i zip a file (create a new zip) 🤔 \
03:37:23FromDiscord<huantian> you'll want a package like zippy for that
03:37:24FromDiscord<huantian> <https://github.com/guzba/zippy>
03:40:58FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @huantian "you'll want a package": i tried but im trying to create a .zip file and it just didnt create a file
03:46:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Did you save the file?
03:57:12FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @Elegantbeef "that'd work": hm is `compiles()` the right way to do this?
03:58:25FromDiscord<huantian> `when not compiles(yield internalTmpFuture):` makes nim complain about "expression expected, but found 'keyword yield'"
03:59:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah parser issues i think
04:00:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ideal might be the symbol thing i mentioned
04:01:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> emit a const, get it's symbol and ensure it's inside a `async` proc
04:04:28FromDiscord<huantian> can I do that in a template though?
04:04:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea
04:04:56FromDiscord<huantian> cool cool
04:05:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QlH
04:05:44FromDiscord<huantian> ah that makes sense
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04:51:38FromDiscord<huantian> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QlU
04:52:32FromDiscord<huantian> I guess I should just check if the return type of the iterator is `owned(FutureBase)`, but maybe is there a way to check if the proc was annotated with {.async.} before async is expanded?
04:54:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is not
05:01:23FromDiscord<huantian> is something like this the right way to check for return type?↵`owner.getImpl.params[0] == newCall(bindSym"owned", bindSym"FutureBase")`
05:01:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> yep
05:01:46FromDiscord<huantian> nice
05:01:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> well i'd say sorta
05:01:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it's not going to be a `newCall`
05:03:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it can also be a command no?
05:03:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont know what `owned` even is/does
05:05:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> eitherway it can be a call or command
05:05:32NimEventerNew question by pooooky: How to hide all Nimble and Nim outputs including errors?, see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71216157/how-to-hide-all-nimble-and-nim-outputs-including-errors
05:05:45FromDiscord<huantian> I'd think {.async.} would only expand it to a call tho right?
05:06:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QlZ
05:06:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Damn it accidently sent it
05:07:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh yea today is not my day
05:07:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qm0
05:08:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The command is easy to do an ensure nothing ever goes astray, but i could be being dumb
05:09:36FromDiscord<huantian> I'm probably gonna look at this tomorrow some more, gonna go sleep now tho ↵gn beef
05:09:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Buh bye
05:13:21FromDiscord<huantian> Oh yeah just before I dip, youd probably want a length check too right
05:13:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea
05:17:07FromDiscord<sheldon> Is there any blockchain written in Nim?
05:17:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/status-im/nimbus-eth2/
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06:06:32FromDiscord<Nick.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qmc
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06:18:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I could be wrong but isnt the issue you're trying to rotate left `x.byte` which is just `1000000`
06:22:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> i assume there is a reason you're avoiding `shr 5`?
06:23:05FromDiscord<Nick.> Right, I just figured that 0x32 has a lenght of 6 which I would like to have it to be 8. I would add 0 + i.byte to it but that isnt working.
06:23:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 0x32 is an `int` which is 64 bit generally
06:24:08FromDiscord<Nick.> the end result i'm at is 0100_0110
06:24:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if you want `0x32` to be a `uint8` you'd do `0x32u8`
06:27:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I've never used rotateBits before so i cannot help using it, so i guess i'll shush 😀
06:27:39FromDiscord<Nick.> xD
06:29:13FromDiscord<Nick.> so the idea is add 00 to 110010 = 00110010. Has a len of 8. Then grab the last 3 which is 010 and add 00110 behind it.
06:29:23FromDiscord<Nick.> which is dec 70
06:29:37FromDiscord<Nick.> (edit) "70" => "70. Which is char F"
06:30:25FromDiscord<Nick.> But I'm clearly doing something wrong
06:32:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep no clue, cannot grok how rotate works at the moment
06:44:02FromDiscord<$$$> how do i run a powershell command in nim
06:44:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Do you mean run a shell command or do you want to use the windows powershell API?
06:44:35FromDiscord<$$$> run a shell cmd
06:44:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `import std/os; discard execCmd("echo 'hello'")`
06:45:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Shit it's not execCmd i'm a liar!
06:45:31FromDiscord<$$$> shii what is it
06:45:34FromDiscord<$$$> 🤔
06:45:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's `execShellCmd`
06:45:42FromDiscord<$$$> oh alr, thanks!
06:46:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is also osproc for more features
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07:06:32FromDiscord<$$$> the -d:ssl argument was breaking my code to upload a file to a server, so im trying to use libcurl `<https://github.com/Araq/libcurl>` to upload the file to a server, cuz it doesnt need the argument to work over ssl. can sum1 help me with this?
07:07:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean what was the issue with `-d:ssl`?
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07:08:06FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I mean what was": i got my friend to test my code out (.exe) on his machine and it was throwing errors about how it doesnt have the dlls, but i dont wana include the .dlls in my folder, so i have to switch to something else
07:08:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I feel like "just ship the dll"s is a easy solution
07:08:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You're still going to need libcurl
07:09:09FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I feel like "just": nawwww
07:09:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You could use https://github.com/treeform/puppy
07:09:14FromDiscord<$$$> whats dat
07:09:43FromDiscord<$$$> can u post with dat ?
07:11:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont know
07:11:27FromDiscord<$$$> i checked it and m pretty sure u cant
07:11:34FromDiscord<$$$> do yk how to use curl? like the cmd
07:11:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope
07:11:49FromDiscord<$$$> dam 😔
07:12:55FromDiscord<morgan> is there any way to have proc overloading where the only difference is in the return type?
07:13:20FromDiscord<morgan> if not it's not really an issue
07:13:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nope overloading only works on parameters, you could use generics for overloading return
07:13:56FromDiscord<morgan> just would save a proc call that does a very simple conversion
07:14:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A converter?
07:14:23FromDiscord<morgan> basically i have a set of color objects with and without opacity
07:14:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A code example might be in order
07:15:32FromDiscord<morgan> so it could convert to not having opacity when it converts from cartesian to cylindrical space without another proc to change the type to a form without opacity
07:16:26FromDiscord<morgan> if that makes sense
07:16:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It does not
07:16:57FromDiscord<morgan> one sec
07:19:53FromDiscord<morgan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qmp
07:20:25FromDiscord<morgan> there's also addOpacity but i left it out because it's almost the same thing
07:20:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Could use a generic
07:21:08FromDiscord<morgan> hm ok
07:21:29FromDiscord<morgan> i think i'll just leave them as no opacity to no opacity and opacity to opacity
07:22:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qmq
07:22:44FromDiscord<morgan> ooh
07:23:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though dont see how htat's any better
07:24:15FromDiscord<morgan> yeah
07:24:32FromDiscord<morgan> slightly smaller but also less clear
07:25:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Where was the return type inference wanted?
07:25:21FromDiscord<morgan> in the cyl functions
07:25:55FromDiscord<morgan> so that it could take in an OLAB and return an OLCH or an LCH depending on what the variable or next function wants
07:26:05FromDiscord<morgan> tho i suppose that's kinda unclear
07:26:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Could define converters
07:28:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#converters if you dont know what i mean
07:29:27FromDiscord<morgan> will check that out
07:32:23FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qmu
07:33:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> and now you need curl
07:37:54FromDiscord<$$$> wdym
07:37:57FromDiscord<$$$> its preinstalled
07:45:56FromDiscord<Rika> Is it now
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07:59:48FromDiscord<$$$> ran in to one more issue, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945590683031449670/unknown.png
07:59:57FromDiscord<$$$> is there a way i can just use the source of the dll and put it in the code
07:59:58FromDiscord<$$$> instead of
08:00:02FromDiscord<$$$> including the dll
08:00:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can statically link it
08:00:13FromDiscord<$$$> how
08:00:18FromDiscord<$$$> & what does that mea
08:00:20FromDiscord<$$$> mean
08:00:54FromDiscord<enthus1ast> youu cannot statically link a dll
08:01:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> i meant hte library
08:01:30FromDiscord<$$$> idek what that means, can u help me do it with this <`https://github.com/GULPF/tiny_sqlite`>
08:01:30FromDiscord<enthus1ast> you must recompile the source code to a static library, then you can link it
08:01:50FromDiscord<$$$> (edit) "<`https://github.com/GULPF/tiny_sqlite`>" => "`<https://github.com/GULPF/tiny_sqlite>`"
08:02:11FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @enthus1ast "you must recompile the": what do these words mean give me a tutorial bro 😭
08:02:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Shipping a dll is the easiest thing to do
08:03:08FromDiscord<$$$> naww just tell me how to statically link it
08:03:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's not just a flag
08:03:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You need the static library and to link that
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08:04:13FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You need the static": how do i link it + what is a static library i come from python idk what these funky words mean
08:04:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I cant give a good explanation for the first and for the second use your search engine
08:04:51FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @$$$\: why not put your files into a folder, then zip it?
08:05:20FromDiscord<enthus1ast> or use an installer creator like nsis
08:05:52FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @$$$ "how do i link": You will do so much more work trying to statically link than to just packages the DLLs.
08:06:48FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Rika "You will do so": how do i statically link it tho
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08:08:08FromDiscord<Rika> First you need the source code of the libraries, or their static objects
08:08:17FromDiscord<$$$> https://github.com/GULPF/tiny_sqlite
08:08:20FromDiscord<$$$> this is the librarty
08:08:33FromDiscord<Rika> That’s the wrapper
08:08:41FromDiscord<Rika> You need the SQLite source code
08:08:48FromDiscord<$$$> ok let me fid
08:09:47FromDiscord<Rika> https://stackoverflow.com/a/13452121
08:10:20FromDiscord<$$$> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/impure/db_sqlite.nim this is the library (i think?)
08:10:31FromDiscord<Rika> https://gist.github.com/payalord/c87cbd1d12ea7712449657d1c6583e12
08:10:34FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @$$$ "https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/impu": No
08:10:52FromDiscord<Rika> https://github.com/sqlite/sqlite
08:11:25FromDiscord<$$$> how can i make that with nim
08:11:33FromDiscord<Rika> You don’t. You need to use a c compiler here
08:11:48FromDiscord<Rika> Compile it into a static library (no I do not know how)
08:12:04FromDiscord<Rika> You’re really making it extremely hard on yourself by static linking; why do you want this anyway?
08:13:25FromDiscord<$$$> i just simply do not like the dll in the directory 🙏
08:13:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Then dont use a library 😛
08:13:53FromDiscord<$$$> how do i do sqlite without a library
08:13:55FromDiscord<$$$> 🤔
08:13:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @$$$\: this always depends on the library you want to compile, you must google how this particular library is build statically↵(@Rika)
08:14:13FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @enthus1ast "<@944438185755295744>\: this always": That’s why I don’t know how 😛
08:15:08FromDiscord<enthus1ast> thats the reason we cant tell you what to type in, since we would have to google like you \:)
08:15:54FromDiscord<Rika> ESPECIALLY when it’s for Windows
08:16:07FromDiscord<Rika> Windows is a whole different fucker
08:16:31FromDiscord<enthus1ast> also my feeling is that sqlite is not that often staticlly linked
08:16:41FromDiscord<enthus1ast> normally applications just ship the dlls
08:17:27FromDiscord<Rika> The dynamic library system is still kinda broken though tbh
08:17:38FromDiscord<enthus1ast> on my machine i have 72 times the sqlite3.dll \:)
08:18:41FromDiscord<Rika> Almost completely defeats the point of dynamic libraries lol
08:19:38FromDiscord<enthus1ast> "laughing in docker, kubernetes, flatpack, snap, ....."
08:20:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ponders if i have even one sql lib
08:20:35FromDiscord<Rika> I don’t know I just thought of a library name for some SQL library in Nim
08:20:45FromDiscord<Rika> “Sequin” or something
08:27:08FromDiscord<$$$> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945597564542132294/unknown.png
08:27:11FromDiscord<$$$> my brain
08:27:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `import std/strutils`
08:27:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Read the compiler error
08:27:42FromDiscord<$$$> type mismatch
08:28:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm guessing it cannot find a `contains(string, string)`
08:30:40FromDiscord<$$$> is there a way i can discard the unused things in the tuple? cuz it keeps reminding me its not suee https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945598451129929758/unknown.png
08:30:40FromDiscord<$$$> used
08:30:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `_`
08:30:58FromDiscord<$$$> ?
08:31:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> use an underscore
08:31:17FromDiscord<$$$> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945598607560699904/unknown.png
08:31:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's nim's "dont care" identifier
08:31:30FromDiscord<Rika> A single underscore
08:31:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `var (_, directoryName _)`
08:31:33FromDiscord<$$$> oh alr
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08:36:25FromDiscord<$$$> bro
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08:54:49FromDiscord<$$$> can i get output from execshellcmd
08:54:50FromDiscord<$$$> 🤔
08:55:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `osProc` has `execCmdEx`
08:56:08FromDiscord<enthus1ast> https://nim-lang.org/docs/osproc.html#execCmdEx%2Cstring%2Cset%5BProcessOption%5D%2CStringTableRef%2Cstring%2Cstring
08:58:26FromDiscord<$$$> thanks
08:58:28FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/O6X
08:58:31FromDiscord<$$$> i was trying to get a string from a url
08:58:35FromDiscord<$$$> it worked 😁
08:58:35FromDiscord<enthus1ast> waut
08:58:36FromDiscord<enthus1ast> wait
08:58:42FromDiscord<$$$> what
08:58:43FromDiscord<enthus1ast> why you do call curl.exe?
08:58:47FromDiscord<$$$> string from url
08:58:55FromDiscord<$$$> cant use httpclient
08:58:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> why?
08:59:13FromDiscord<$$$> httpclient breaks with ssl and i cant use -d:ssl
08:59:17FromDiscord<$$$> cuz -d:ssl breaks
08:59:27FromDiscord<enthus1ast> please show the error
08:59:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> no dont lie
08:59:35FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Elegantbeef "no dont lie": what
08:59:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> ssl requires libraries and you're being a contrarian
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09:00:07FromDiscord<enthus1ast> you do not want do distribute a dll, but then call curl.exe \:D
09:00:14FromDiscord<$$$> curl.exe preinstalled
09:00:15FromDiscord<$$$> on windows
09:00:23FromDiscord<$$$> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945605930744168498/unknown.png
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09:00:35FromDiscord<$$$> installed by default in system32
09:00:36FromDiscord<$$$> wym
09:00:38FromDiscord<enthus1ast> this is because your friend has git for windows installed
09:00:42FromDiscord<$$$> nope
09:00:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nah it seems MS ships it for 10/11
09:00:53FromDiscord<$$$> ye
09:00:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's still comically dumb
09:01:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Just use the library and proper code and quit being weird
09:01:11FromDiscord<$$$> i refuse to ship a dll
09:01:15FromDiscord<enthus1ast> "If your Windows 10 build is 17063, or later, cUrl is included by default. " crazy
09:01:22FromDiscord<enthus1ast> nice to know actually
09:01:47FromDiscord<Rika> Your loss
09:01:56FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Rika "Your loss": how curl works fine
09:02:13FromDiscord<$$$> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945606391358435358/unknown.png
09:02:14FromDiscord<$$$> btw
09:02:26FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @$$$ "": ^^ httpclient ssl error
09:02:36FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yes you must also distribute these
09:02:37FromDiscord<enthus1ast> OR
09:02:56FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @enthus1ast "yes you must also": but im using curl so i dont have 2 wym
09:02:56FromDiscord<enthus1ast> you can try to use treeform/puppy https://github.com/treeform/puppy
09:03:05FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @enthus1ast "you can try to": my code worked dawg 😭
09:03:49FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/k4q
09:04:00FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yeah, if it works, then call it a day. ↵It's just, calling out to external applications is always a little fishy
09:04:35FromDiscord<Rika> Well if he’s happy with it what are we to object no?
09:05:19FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @enthus1ast "yeah, if it works,": fishy as in bad or like malware fishy
09:05:23FromDiscord<Rika> Both
09:05:26FromDiscord<$$$> fair
09:05:45FromDiscord<Rika> We can’t help you here if you do get malware issues by the way
09:06:03FromDiscord<$$$> yea thats fair, this isnt malware tho 🙏
09:08:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's what they all say
09:09:17FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Elegantbeef "That's what they all": 😭
09:09:26FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @$$$ "yea thats fair, this": The antivirus can’t tell lol
09:09:42FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Rika "The antivirus can’t tell": wym
09:10:00FromDiscord<Rika> If the antivirus flags your program as a virus
09:10:10FromDiscord<Rika> Maybe since it does a call to curl
09:11:39FromDiscord<$$$> naww it doesnt flag it
09:12:08FromDiscord<Rika> Well good for you
09:12:12FromDiscord<Rika> Anyway yeah
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09:31:59FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @Rika "Compile it into a": now to get back to figuring this out 😔
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10:56:26FromDiscord<$$$> naw sum1 gotta help me
11:00:15FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I think you need to read `Readme` or `INSTALL` file in the C library you want to use to build it as static lib.
11:01:45FromDiscord<$$$> is there any alternative to using a static lib or a dll
11:03:23FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Implement it yourself? Or
11:04:07FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @demotomohiro "Implement it yourself? Or": shii might be easier than doin this static lib shii 😭
11:04:58FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Why do you avoid dll? That is used by many windows projects for long time.
11:05:13FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @demotomohiro "Why do you avoid": it look ugly in ma project directory i cant stand it 🙏
11:07:43FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How about to create a new directory and put dlls there and add the path to the directory to `PATH` enviroment variable?
11:08:33FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @demotomohiro "How about to create": i mean yah but if i redistribute the file they wont have the path variale
11:08:36FromDiscord<$$$> variable
11:09:03FromDiscord<$$$> could i make a file that downloads the dll and then runs the main file 🤔
11:13:37FromDiscord<demotomohiro> You can run `curl` or `wget` using `executeProcess` or `startProcess` in osproc module to download dlls.
11:13:52FromDiscord<$$$> In reply to @demotomohiro "You can run `curl`": can i do that in the same file ?
11:14:29FromDiscord<$$$> like can that code be in the same file as the code that imports the library that needs the dll
11:15:11FromDiscord<$$$> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qnh
11:17:03FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I think you can do it but you would need to load functions in dlls using `dynlib` module.
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11:17:47FromDiscord<demotomohiro> https://nim-lang.org/docs/dynlib.html
11:17:50FromDiscord<fail> In reply to @demotomohiro "I think you can": just loadLib(dll) ?
11:20:31FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I think you need to call `symAddr` to load each functions after `loadLib(dll)`.
11:21:43FromDiscord<fail> let procedure = cast[procedureName](lib.symAddr(procedureName))
11:21:44FromDiscord<fail> ig
11:22:33FromDiscord<fail> oh wait it says function
11:22:37FromDiscord<fail> arent functions called procedures
11:22:38FromDiscord<fail> 🤔
11:24:06FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I think Doc calls function that is implemented by C or other than Nim.
11:27:33FromDiscord<fail> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3Qnk
11:29:44FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Then, you need separate programs. One download dlls another one use dlls.
11:30:14FromDiscord<fail> In reply to @demotomohiro "Then, you need separate": alr but what would be the difference from downloading the dll in the same file im just kinda confused 🤔
11:30:29FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Or wrap sqlite yourself using `dynlib`.
11:30:51FromDiscord<fail> In reply to @fail "alr but what would": &
11:30:52FromDiscord<fail> ^
11:32:12FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Program that use dll don't need to use `dynlib`, just can use existing wrapper.
11:33:40FromDiscord<fail> In reply to @demotomohiro "Program that use dll": cant i just download it and then import the wrapper
11:35:47FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How about to ask the question to wrapper developer?
11:40:57FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I found an article about dll. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/deployment/dynamic-link-library
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11:42:43FromDiscord<demotomohiro> So there are Load-time dynamic linking and Run-time dynamic linking.
11:56:03PMunch@ElegantBeef, any idea why this doesn't work? http://ix.io/3Qnt
11:56:23PMunchI'm trying to implement yglukhov's proposal here: https://github.com/PMunch/ratel/issues/10#issuecomment-1047515881
11:57:11PMunchWhich means I need to read in config.nims files, but I don't really want to set any of the switches, so I thought I create a shim library which just stored them in a table or something
11:57:27PMunchThe error I get is this: Script Error: /home/peter/.nimble/pkgs/ratel-0.1.0/private/boards/helpers/avrBoardConf.nim:1:1 undeclared identifier: '--'
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12:08:49NimEventerNew question by congusbongus: How to pass custom arguments to a task?, see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71221025/how-to-pass-custom-arguments-to-a-task
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14:00:42FromDiscord<qb> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/WsE
14:00:50FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qop" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qoq"
14:01:29FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qoq" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qor"
14:01:40FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qor" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qos"
14:01:47FromDiscord<qb> (edit)
14:03:25FromDiscord<Rika> you do not
14:03:31FromDiscord<Rika> unless you're fine with static strings
14:04:34FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/zWb
14:06:39FromDiscord<qb> mh :/
14:06:41PMunchIt's too bad we don't have something like `whenCase`..
14:08:14FromDiscord<vindaar> @qb\: what do you need this for?
14:08:30FromDiscord<vindaar> usually knowing that makes it easier to give you a better alternative
14:11:42FromDiscord<qb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QoA
14:12:38FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QoA" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QoC"
14:12:48FromDiscord<Rika> ts must be a static string
14:12:58FromDiscord<Rika> aka a string determinable at compile time
14:13:08FromDiscord<Rika> theres no way around it
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14:13:11FromDiscord<qb> Alright
14:13:14FromDiscord<Rika> in that way i mean
14:13:19FromDiscord<Rika> there are ways around it like boxing
14:13:47FromDiscord<Rika> which is wrapping every possible type in another box type using obj variants
14:14:12FromDiscord<Rika> but otherwise like that you must use static string
14:46:38FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How about to use generics? Like `proc read[T](a: Process): T`.
14:50:21FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Or `proc read[T](a: Process; ty: typedesc[T]): T`
15:11:00FromDiscord<Schelz> Any idea if winim is able to create Windows like CreateWindowEx ?
15:11:09FromDiscord<Schelz> or is there any module that can done that >
15:11:13FromDiscord<Schelz> (edit) ">" => "?"
15:12:29FromDiscord<qb> Isn't there a whole gui library built on top of winim?
15:12:49FromDiscord<qb> https://github.com/khchen/wNim
15:13:47FromDiscord<Schelz> That ain't help, I try to wrap d3d9 and I need the stock windows api to create window
15:14:20FromDiscord<qb> i see
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15:42:06FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> hey, what kind of error it is 😕↵↵> cannot prove that it's safe to initialize 'content' with the runtime value for the discriminator 'kind'↵> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945707026519044146/unknown.png
15:44:34FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/dtK
15:46:20FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> ah I think `kind` is not exported 😄
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15:50:12ehmryif i'm compiling foo.nim that imports and external bar.nim, can I get the compiler to load both foo.nim.cfg and bar.nim.cfg, or do I have to use pragmas in bar.nim to do thing like set cincludes?
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16:25:21FromDiscord<Waldecir Santos> In reply to @hamidb80 "hey, what kind of": Love the theme, what is the name ? 😄
16:42:16FromDiscord<Deceptive> how do i parse info about user's sysem in nim?
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16:53:02NimEventerNew thread by Reversem3: New programming for beginners/intermediate , see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8939
16:56:56FromDiscord<Deceptive> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qq9
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17:03:13FromDiscord<huantian> Add () to your function call prob
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17:23:46FromDiscord<chancy> should `--cpu:arm64` be inherently passing `-arch arm64` to the C compiler?
17:29:03FromDiscord<demotomohiro> You can see how Nim call gcc with `--listcmd` option
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18:21:08shadow0133I'm trying to compile (custom fork of) nitter, which uses nimble, to raspberry pi 1 b+. If I try crosscompiling locally, resulting executable crashes with illegal hardware instruction. I want to compile project to c, and compile c files on raspberry, but I can't get nimble to output them.
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18:32:32nexeqguys what is the best http library for nim?
18:47:40FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "I'm trying to compile": What is the command that you are using?
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18:54:14FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> how to solve `dumpNumberOfInstances` undeclared identifier? i compile the source by `nim c -d:nimTypeNames`, nim was installed via `choosenim stable` and it's 1.6.4
18:56:01FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @haolian9 (高浩亮) "how to solve `dumpNumberOfInstances`": Which gc are you using?
18:56:22FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> i just wanna say it↵(@ynfle)
18:56:33FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> actually i use --mm\:orc
18:57:02FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @haolian9 (高浩亮) "actually i use --mm\:orc": Try with out that, I'm not sure if it's supposed to work with the other GCs other than refc
18:57:26FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> i changed it to refc, it worked↵(@ynfle)
18:57:56FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @haolian9 (高浩亮) "i changed it to": It talks about it at the bottom of the refc doc https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/a0073d2d4c18f030eccef98a130f7f1f2ad9d67a/doc/refc.rst
19:00:09FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> oh, thank you! the link's title `Tweaking the refc GC`, i was blind↵(@ynfle)
19:01:21FromDiscord<Phil> ... are y'all keeping your codebases tidy through sheer force of will and dilligence, are you not keeping it tidy or are there formatters out there that I'm just not aware of?
19:06:51shadow0133@ynfle nimble build -d:release --compileOnly --genScript
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19:12:24FromDiscord<qb> Someone should contribute to https://github.com/curlconverter/curlconverter
19:12:38FromDiscord<qb> rust is there but not nim. What a shame
19:14:25FromDiscord<Phil> educate me, isn't the main purpose of curl to be an HTTP client and we have an http client lib? Or is that too limited (I haven't used it so no idea on my end)
19:14:32FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "educate me, isn't the main purpose of curl to be an HTTP client and we have an http client lib? Or is that too limited (I haven't used it so no idea on my end) ... " added "?"
19:16:35FromDiscord<qb> That converter converts your curl command to code. So you can use the requests on the http client lib on nim without typing everything manually
19:17:25FromDiscord<Phil> Ah, so more a convenience thing to not have to use the client lib?
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19:17:46FromDiscord<Phil> Or simplify using the client lib I guess
19:17:53FromDiscord<qb> https://curlconverter.com/
19:17:58FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "Or simplify using the client lib I guess ... " added "would be more accurate"
19:18:30FromDiscord<Phil> Ohhh as in you literally get that command written in nim code, in which case it'd be implemented to use the client lib
19:18:59FromDiscord<Phil> Thanks for the patience with me there ^^
19:22:04FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "<@757977788056600719> nimble build -d:release": That won't cross compile. What os/arch are you on? Check out https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html
19:24:41shadow0133@ynfle x86_64, debian. I'm trying to compile to C (not executable), then copy C files to target (Rpi, arm6l, raspian which is debian derivative) and compile C files there
19:29:37FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "<@757977788056600719> x86_64, debian. I'm": The c that is generated is different depending on the target os, arch.
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19:32:24shadow0133@ynfle I'm not getting any C files either way
19:33:12FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "<@757977788056600719> I'm not getting": You are, they're probably in the `nimcache` folder (probably `.cache/nim`)
19:33:38FromDiscord<ynfle> Try `--nimcache:nimcache`
19:33:55FromDiscord<ynfle> Which will output them in the `nimcache` folder in the current directory
19:34:11FromDiscord<ynfle> @shadow0133 ☝️
19:40:20FromDiscord<b4mbus> can I somehow
19:40:36FromDiscord<b4mbus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QqU
19:40:39FromDiscord<b4mbus> fold by size?
19:41:31FromDiscord<b4mbus> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QqU" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QqV"
19:43:56FromDiscord<b4mbus> I have no idea how to do it
19:43:58FromDiscord<b4mbus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QqW
19:44:31FromDiscord<ynfle> Why do you mean fold by size?
19:44:32FromDiscord<b4mbus> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/l5S
19:45:31FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @b4mbus "fold by size?": Fold is to combine an array/seq into a single value, do you want to add all of the lengths of the strings together?
19:45:45FromDiscord<b4mbus> In reply to @ynfle "Fold is to combine": > This version of foldl gets a starting parameter. This makes it possible to accumulate the sequence into a different type than the sequence elements.
19:45:47FromDiscord<b4mbus> well apparently not only
19:45:55FromDiscord<b4mbus> In reply to @ynfle "Fold is to combine": Yers
19:45:57FromDiscord<b4mbus> (edit) "Yers" => "Yes"
19:46:38FromDiscord<b4mbus> and fold does not necessarily need to combine a whole collection into a single value
19:47:18FromDiscord<b4mbus> Nims syntax gets kinda weird sometimes hmm
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19:51:39shadow0133@ynfle I've got the c code, but compiler complains about missing nimbase.h, am I supposed to get it from https://github.com/nim-lang/csources_v1 ?
19:52:38FromDiscord<b4mbus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qr2
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19:52:54FromDiscord<b4mbus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Qr3
19:53:34FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "<@757977788056600719> I've got the": It should be installed on your system, but you can get it from the repo https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/nimbase.h
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19:58:20FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "<@757977788056600719> I've got the": csources is for boostrapping the compiler, you don't need a compiler as you have already done the nim compilation stage
19:59:05FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @ynfle "It should be installed": Someone wrote a blog post on using the c processors to not need nimbase.h
20:00:58FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> In reply to @Waldecir Santos "Love the theme, what": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945772171458936882/unknown.png
20:01:13FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ceciljacob.code-plus-theme&ssr=false#review-details
20:01:36FromDiscord<Waldecir Santos> Thank you
20:01:56FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> you're welcome
20:04:34FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @ynfle "Someone wrote a blog": @shadow0133 https://zen.su/posts/amalgamating-nim-programs/
20:17:41FromDiscord<lpha3ch0> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3Qrc
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20:19:36FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @lpha3ch0 "I need to add": You can try threadpool, but async would work too
20:23:12FromDiscord<lpha3ch0> In reply to @ynfle "You can try threadpool,": Thanks, I'm looking into threadpool now.
20:27:24FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @lpha3ch0 "I need to add": you have an example wikipedia scrapper in Nim in action. For that use case, async is sufficient and no need to go multithreaded.
20:31:16FromDiscord<fail> d
20:39:15PMunch@lpha3ch0, async is definitely the way to go here. Your app will spend almost all of it's time waiting for the server, so throwing more CPU power (i.e. threads) on it won't speed anything up. With async on the other hand you can send multiple requests of and have a single CPU thread sit there and listen for all of the replies
20:39:41FromDiscord<ynfle> Listen to the pros!!! ☝️
20:47:30FromDiscord<lpha3ch0> In reply to @PMunch "<@275045322705862656>, async is definitely": Thanks!
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21:36:50shadow0133@ynfle It just finished compiling and seem to work for now. I will have to think about proper crosscompiling later. Thanks for help.
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21:39:12shadow0133I don't have nim installed on target (I tried), but it seems I only needed to download nimbase.h to make it compile
21:49:18FromDiscord<ynfle> In reply to @shadow0133 "I don't have nim": Yes. You should set the `--cpu:` value when compiling
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21:55:36shadow0133@ynfle Hmm? I did that, but I'm talking about something else.
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22:00:44FromDiscord<ynfle> I know. I was just saying because it makes a difference. Nim's int is based on cpu arch. 64, 32 etc.
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23:05:54FromDiscord<jmgomez> https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#crossminuscompilation-for-ios↵"Use nim c -c --os:ios --noMain:on to generate C files and include them in your XCode project. Then you can use XCode to compile, link, package and sign everything."↵↵Does that mean that nim cant produce a static library for iOS directly?
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23:40:14NimEventerNew thread by Hobbyman: Calling nim-server-code from javascript, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8940
23:43:57FromDiscord<jmgomez> This is what Im using to compile it ↵nim c --os:ios -c --noMain:on --app:staticlib -d:release test.nim https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/945828290558586920/message.txt
23:44:15FromDiscord<jmgomez> (edit) "test.nim" => "test.nim↵↵And this is the ouput"
23:45:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i dont think Nim can create a static lib directly due to apples grand wisdom
23:45:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Developing anything for apple hardware is just harder 😛
23:47:02FromDiscord<jmgomez> Right.. So I have to create it manually? UE and Unity create iOS projects behind the scenes, I guess that's too much to expect from a compiler
23:47:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I imagine so yea, you could always be the person that automates the process!
23:48:44FromDiscord<jmgomez> lol really new to nim. Im just evaluating nim for building a sdk
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23:57:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well it's fully possible to do, I have 0 idea the apple build process aside from "Locked down", so cant say much