<< 22-02-2024 >>
00:18:30FromDiscord<rongcuid> Do I need to specify through command line or can Nimble do that?
00:18:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nimble does not know how to load configs
00:18:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can make a `config.nims` with your switches
00:19:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But `.nimble` cannot contain build flags as it just ignores them
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03:22:45FromDiscord<␀ Array 🇵🇸 🍉> i just follow the info about embedded systems and adjust it accordingly then since there is no wiiu target https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#nim-for-embedded-systems↵(@nnsee)
03:22:49FromDiscord<␀ Array 🇵🇸 🍉> thanks
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03:36:00FromDiscord<MDuardo> Poor Wii U \:(
03:36:29FromDiscord<MDuardo> Very fun console, horrible marketing and hardware
03:46:20FromDiscord<␀ Array 🇵🇸 🍉> i love my wiiu, ive made a small homebrew app to learn how to code for it and ive been thinking of rewriting it in nimhttps://git.inamatrix.xyz/array-in-a-matrix/SimpleDrawU
03:59:26FromDiscord<MDuardo> That would be amazing
04:17:09FromDiscord<.bobbbob> Does anyone know how to set the secure flag for cookies when using session cookies with prolouge?
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07:17:50FromDiscord<huantian> I need to get a Wii U just to have it
07:17:52FromDiscord<huantian> And hombre
07:17:56FromDiscord<huantian> (edit) "hombre" => "hombres"
07:18:03FromDiscord<huantian> (edit) "hombres" => "homebrew"
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07:47:17NimEventerNew thread by JohnLuck: Spawning a new terminal from a nim program, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/11062
08:06:39FromDiscord<odexine> #jobs "Actually point 5 can probably be done in a month." proof that mratsim is probably not human
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08:41:00FromDiscord<fosster> guys, do you know if `suffle` proc from `std/random` can also shuffle sequences?
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08:42:16FromDiscord<fosster> guys, do you know if `shuffle` proc from `std/random` can also shuffle sequences?
08:47:25FromDiscord<odexine> yes it can
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08:51:26FromDiscord<fosster> [odexine](https://matrix.to/#/%40_discord_259277943275126785%3At2bot.io) thx
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10:23:47FromDiscord<kiloneie> `{.push --profiler: on.}` is this not possible within this pragma ?
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12:55:09FromDiscord<dlesnoff> Hello,↵I do not find in the documentation how one can perform a fused-multiply-add (FMA, IEEE754-2008) in Nim. Would someone know?
12:57:23FromDiscord<dlesnoff> I found these c imports at: https://gist.github.com/apense/5fb468db7289b19474d2↵proc fma(x,y,z: float32): float32 {.importc: "fma", header: "<math.h>".}↵proc fma(x,y,z: float64): float64 {.importc: "fmaf", header: "<math.h>".}
12:57:43FromDiscord<dlesnoff> (edit) "I found these c imports at: https://gist.github.com/apense/5fb468db7289b19474d2↵proc fma(x,y,z: float32): float32 {.importc: "fma", header: "<math.h>".}↵proc fma(x,y,z: float64): float64 {.importc: "fmaf", header: "<math.h>".}" => "sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vnFSXYyfabIP"
12:59:21FromDiscord<dlesnoff> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=AYZGwrQnFxOq" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=PAaNMfbqWMwB"
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13:17:54NimEventerNew thread by dlesnoff: Fused multiply-add instruction, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/11064
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13:47:40FromDiscord<bosinski2023> In reply to @jiezron "I found these c": you could use SIMD given AVX is supported on your side.
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13:52:47FromDiscord<dlesnoff> I just want to perform fma on one register. I am analyzing an algorithm that will be written as a GPU kernel. I do not care about SIMD. I just want to prototype my algorithm quickly and analyze rounding errors.↵I am writing a proof of correctness for a paper and use Nim to check some low-level stuff faster than in C++
14:04:04FromDiscord<odexine> you can just import them yourself no? or is that too much of a roadblock
14:04:33FromDiscord<odexine> and i assume the fmarch=native is so that the fma function actually uses the cpu instruction instead of whatever generic version (if any?) the c compiler would use
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14:26:08FromDiscord<dlesnoff> In reply to @odexine "you can just import": That's what I did, indeed ...
14:26:53FromDiscord<odexine> well, i'm not sure why exacvtly theyre not imported in the stdlib
14:27:00FromDiscord<odexine> maybe it is a good idea to PR or raise an issue
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14:59:16FromDiscord<yetiwizard> I'm working on a dll and trying to export a function with stdcall convention: `{.stdcall, exportc: "test", dynlib.}`↵unfortunately, the name is exported with an additional @20 defining the size of the stack activation frame: test@20↵is there a way I can stop this name mangling from happening and the name exporting without the stack part? just test
15:00:51FromDiscord<odexine> that's strange, it shouldnt have any mangling
15:01:59FromDiscord<yetiwizard> btw I'm using MinGW
15:02:45FromDiscord<demotomohiro> So, when you use that dll, you have to use `"test@20"` instead of `"test"` to import the function?
15:03:15FromDiscord<yetiwizard> yep
15:05:30FromDiscord<yetiwizard> I can legit open the dll in a hex editor and manually remove the @20 bytes and it works fine then
15:06:00FromDiscord<yetiwizard> it sucks to have to add some kind of hacky post-build script that manually strips these bytes tbh
15:06:58FromDiscord<leorize> are you compiling to c++?
15:07:47FromDiscord<yetiwizard> yep
15:09:59FromDiscord<leorize> it might be bad exportc codegen
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15:12:08FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @yetiwizard "I'm working on a": Use `cdecl`
15:12:20FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Exportc should already do that nvm
15:12:31FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Dynlib also should disable mangling
15:13:15FromDiscord<leorize> this SO answer might be what you want\: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/538134/exporting-functions-from-a-dll-with-dllexport
15:13:34FromDiscord<leorize> that's not always feasible, esp if they must use stdcall↵(@Robyn [She/Her])
15:13:54FromDiscord<yetiwizard> if I use cdecl, the generated code uses N_CDECL which when called messes up the stack
15:21:01FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "that's not always feasible,": Fair
15:21:04FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @yetiwizard "if I use cdecl,": Ah
15:31:13FromDiscord<jmgomez> In reply to @yetiwizard "I'm working on a": Please fill an issue with the minimal code to repro it
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15:33:25FromDiscord<yetiwizard> I just tried it with `{.exportc, dynlib, codegenDecl: """extern "C" declspec(dllexport) $1 stdcall $2 $3""".}` but it still adds that @20
15:34:08FromDiscord<yetiwizard> tbh at this point I don't think this is a Nim problem, more a MinGW
15:34:56FromDiscord<yetiwizard> this kind of name mangling only happens when you use ` `
15:34:59FromDiscord<yetiwizard> (edit) "` `" => "`stdcall`"
15:35:33FromDiscord<yetiwizard> In reply to @leorize "this SO answer might": I think the relevant answer there is Malick's
15:36:27FromDiscord<jmgomez> Can you try with a different compiler then?
15:38:39FromDiscord<yetiwizard> first I'll try to see if mingw has some relevant pragma that might fix this
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16:18:33FromDiscord<yetiwizard> omg, finally! after searching endlessly for this da flag, here it is:↵`{.passL:"-Wl,-add-stdcall-alias".}`
16:19:10FromDiscord<yetiwizard> this will add an alias to the name without the @20
16:19:43FromDiscord<yetiwizard> I found this in buried in some forum post from 2006 lol
16:20:09FromDiscord<yetiwizard> (edit) removed "in"
16:22:55FromDiscord<odexine> that sounds dumb
16:23:46FromDiscord<yetiwizard> there's also↵`{.passL:"-Wl,-kill-at".}` ↵this just removes the @, it doesnt create an alias
16:23:56FromDiscord<yetiwizard> feels cleaner
16:24:33FromDiscord<odexine> was going to say
16:24:35FromDiscord<odexine> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49170472/mingw-dll-stdcall-calling-convention-linker-error
16:26:13FromDiscord<yetiwizard> lol, weird name they gave to the flag
16:26:42FromDiscord<yetiwizard> but yea, problem solved, thx
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21:46:53FromDiscord<morgan> is nimble.directory down for anyone else?
21:47:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nimpkgs.dayl.in/ an alternative if it helps any
21:47:51FromDiscord<morgan> i thought it might be my vpn, but it didn't work when using lte on my phone with vpn off last night
21:47:56FromDiscord<morgan> thanks ill try that
21:48:43FromDiscord<morgan> yea that site works
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23:10:22FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Hm... Should I use concepts when possible? I really like them but not sure if I should shove them in places where they'd fit, or to just use mixins
23:17:49FromDiscord<66aaron23> yo guys can i ask u sum that i saw someone post that i don't understand cuz they refused to explain
23:18:20FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @66aaron23 "yo guys can i": Sure, go ahead
23:18:34FromDiscord<66aaron23> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Sure, go ahead": stop the driver from running↵hook its IC callbacks and report that the driver IS running when they call EnumSystemDrivers + emulate IOCTL coms between process and driver
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23:20:16FromDiscord<66aaron23> 😟
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23:24:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> What's the context for this?
23:30:29FromDiscord<66aaron23> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "What's the context for": uh
23:30:41FromDiscord<66aaron23> @Robyn [She/Her] bye?
23:32:59FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> ?
23:33:11FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> They left
23:33:13FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Huh.
23:35:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I feel like something dumb like "always has been" is the valid response
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23:47:28FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Hm... Should I use": Also Beef, care to weigh your opinion? Concepts vs Mixins, what's better?
23:49:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Use both?
23:49:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Concepts rely on mixins to be useful
23:50:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ideally you use a concept to constraint your shape then mixin procedures
23:50:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/beef331/truss3d/blob/master/src/truss3D/atlasser.nim for a real world example on my view of "best practices"
23:52:37FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Huh, why would you use both?
23:52:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I thought one or the other would've worked just fine
23:52:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cause you want to document the api required and actually mixin the procedues
23:53:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Concepts do not make `OpenSymChoices`
23:53:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They're just constraints
23:55:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> In the above example infact you have to use `mixin` cause if you do not `init` will error as there is none in scope
23:55:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ah okay
23:56:31FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wait what does OpenSymChoices mean? Does it mean non-exported procedures can be used in a generic proc?
23:56:41FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Not just a generic but you know what I mean
23:56:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://www.jasonbeetham.com/writeups/codereuse.html
23:56:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "Wait what does OpenSymChoices": (If defined in the current scope?
23:57:02FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> (edit) "scope?" => "scope)"
23:57:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Search for the term 'mixin'