<<22-03-2013>>
00:00:44Araqgood night
00:01:04gradhabye
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00:41:14reactormonkjjj
00:41:14reactormonkoops.
00:41:24reactormonkAraq, no JS? :-(
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09:25:48zaharyhi everyone
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16:46:39dom96hey zahary, where have you been?
17:05:41reactormonkzahary, morning ;-)
17:09:58dom96wow
17:10:08dom96Github just failed.
17:10:10dom96And confused me.
17:10:33dom96Last time I viewed the issues I filtered by the "developing" label.
17:10:44dom96Github remembered that, and now that the label is gone I see no issues.
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17:31:22reactormonkdom96, don't forget the error message
17:32:36dom96true. Edited.
17:34:20*dom96 seems to be on a roll with bug reports
17:35:23reactormonkO.o segfault$
17:35:45reactormonkapparently the typechecking is not doing its thing
17:36:33dom96yeah
17:39:44reactormonkdom96, looks like an infinite recursion to me
17:40:51reactormonk#65516 <- innermost stack
17:44:12dom96I do see a while (1) in the generated C source.
17:44:20dom96I wonder why it's there.
17:44:39reactormonkexactly.
17:44:57dom96But it should be a compile time error anyway.
17:45:42reactormonkexactly.
17:48:45reactormonkAraq, I'll donate a bitcoin to a project of your choice if you get that JS stuff working today.
17:52:33reactormonkhmm, given the current value, half a bitcoin.
17:52:43dom96lol
17:55:57reactormonkfuck this. If it's done by today, a full bitcoin.
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18:00:37dom96what if he doesn't show up today?
18:19:07reactormonkdom96, bad luck
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18:52:35reactormonkdom96, how much of a PITA is gtk?
18:54:05dom96It is quite a PITA.
18:54:31reactormonkwhat would you recommend?
18:55:14dom96It depends what you want to do with it I guess. Designing the UI is always a PITA, but I do everything manually, I don't use glade.
18:55:33dom96There are some annoying issues which have taken me quite a long time to figure out (scrolling)
18:56:18dom96I haven't tried anything else except GTK and WinForms, so I really can't recommend much.
18:57:38reactormonkTk is neat
18:58:07reactormonkbut let's do some homework first
19:08:26reactormonkdom96, I assume glide is their gui builder
19:08:48reactormonkerr glade
19:09:05dom96yeah
19:14:38dom96I'm toying with the idea of a little GUI DSL.
19:25:19reactormonkGUI is never easy.
19:25:32reactormonkif you want to go for something, try tkdocs.org
19:27:00dom96indeed
19:27:10dom96And I don't have the time anyway
19:31:29reactormonkenergy, you say?
19:31:58dom96that too
19:36:14dom96I wish I could buy some btc using paypal
19:39:40reactormonkI could sell you some ;-)
19:39:50dom96Not at the current price :P
19:39:51reactormonkbut coinbase hasn't sent me my 10 yet :-(
19:40:22dom96I remember when bitcoins were really cheap, and I got 1 from the bitcoin facet.
19:43:49reactormonk^^
19:44:08dom96hrm, I think I might still have 0.5 BTC somewhere...
19:46:42dom96holy crap the average is now $70
19:46:55reactormonkyep
19:47:07reactormonkbought 10 when they were <5'
19:47:10reactormonkerr <50
19:47:25reactormonk200$. Why not.
19:47:31dom96I'm still hoping the price will go down
19:47:43dom96How did you buy them?
19:48:02reactormonkcoinbase
19:48:10reactormonkthey require an US bank account though
19:49:38reactormonkBut since I don't have the ability to punch you over TCP/IP I won't give you access :-P
19:50:17reactormonkdom96, I think there are a bunch of european providers
19:50:32dom96It's ok, just give me some time to write up an RFC for "Punching over TCP/IP".
19:51:39dom96ooh, I think I found my wallet :D
19:52:11dom96"UK users can use Barclays PingIt or Bank Transfer to purchase bitcoins from blockchain.info."
19:52:37dom96That would work.
20:18:20dom96oh, of course. The faucet only gave 0.05 BTC
20:18:28dom96well, I still have 0.04
20:34:45dom96reactormonk: Ever done any mining?
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20:39:17reactormonkdom96, nope
20:39:22reactormonkmight consider it though
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20:48:31dom96oh, i need to merge that pull request! :P
20:49:47AmatCoderno hurry, men ;-)
20:50:30gour_reactormonk: there are no C bindings for Tk, right?
20:51:04Araqthere are bindings for TCL though, couldn't find any clean Tk headers
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20:59:26*gour noticed that tkdocs.rorg site is updated (finally)
21:05:48reactormonkgour, there are C bindings for tcl, which tk is writte in
21:07:08gourreactormonk: heh, but not for tk (gui) part, although it could be interesting option to have
21:07:48reactormonkdom96, so no bad luck for Araq ;-)
21:08:18Araqreactormonk: read it, working on it, can't make any promises I may get tired very soon :P
21:08:58Araqhuh?
21:09:19Araqwhat did you do with ccSysCall in the JS backend?
21:09:36reactormonkAraq, hm?
21:09:43dom96This talk about Tk is interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6isuF_bBiXs
21:09:51Araqjsgen, line 1438
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21:54:07reactormonkAraq, lemme see
21:54:49reactormonkAraq, what's the problem?
21:55:37reactormonkand according to git blame, that's your code.
21:59:10Araqinteresting I can't remember ever writing that piece of code
22:00:29gradhawhat's the purpose of forum users replying to a thread and changing the subject? do actual users notice it's possible at all?
22:02:27Araqgood point but iirc it was easier to implement this way :P
22:03:31*dom96 remembers that in the beginning it added an endless number of "Re: " :P
22:04:23gradhayou mean, putting <!-- --> in the HTML was too hard?
22:04:55Araqyeah especially since hacks like that don't even come to my mind :P
22:05:41Araqreactormonk: I fixed #335 but #347 is harder
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22:11:15gradhais it possible to use \ to split lines in templates? I have these long ${ code code code } and would prefer to split that in several lines, but it seems it's not supported, or I'm not getting the right syntax
22:13:05AraqI don't think it's supported
22:13:20Araqmy ${code} is always pretty short, how come yours is so long?
22:13:40gradhaI'm writing now stuff like " # let profileUrl = c.req.makeUri("profile/", false) & XMLencode(c.username)"
22:14:30gradhait wraps on my 80 columns terminal, and it was worse when I tried to embed that directly in the already indented html
22:14:45Araqwell if the line mostly is nimrod code, the #-way is preferable, right?
22:15:15gradhahmm.. so \ would work in #-lines?
22:15:32gradhagonna try that
22:16:43gradhaok, so the \ works, but the variable isn't accesible through ${profileUrl}
22:18:36gradhaI guess my syntax/code is wrong, how could I tell nimrod to translate the source code filter to see the output it makes?
22:19:33Araq--verbosity:3 outputs the result I think
22:19:39dom96Araq: Good news: I think I found that crash you encountered with Aporia's selected word highlighting.
22:19:48Araqand I'm not sure about the \
22:20:00AraqI remember I implemented something to help with long lines
22:20:12Araqbut my examples don't use it
22:20:42Araqdom96: cool
22:20:47gradhaok, verbosity:3 works, it's hideous, but its a beginning
22:21:07Araqperhaps there is some other option I can't remember
22:21:28gradhait crashes too, but maybe because I'm trying to compile the template alone
22:21:58Araqcrashes are always nice
22:22:07Araqwhat about a bug report?
22:22:26gradhasure
22:23:45gradhaoh, crap, the let wasn't being defined because I happened to put a space between the hash and the l
22:24:44gradhaheh, now it gets embedded in the html and escaped, what am I doing wrong...
22:25:35gradhaahaha, nice, tabs before the # screw up gode generation
22:25:39gradhakill it with fire
22:28:56gradhanow that I'm looking more time at the forums I think the header where it says "Homepage | Nimrod's forum" is confusing
22:29:12Araqhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JSJuN3UWI
22:29:22gradhaIt looks like this breadcrumb path style, so I tend to click homepage and I don't go to the root of the forum
22:40:40reactormonkAraq, hm.
22:42:32Araqreactormonk: the problem is that we can't really use the lambda lifting
22:42:57Araqas that introduces a hidden environment so the function is not compatible
22:45:01reactormonkAraq, hm
22:45:33reactormonkhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/3037598/how-to-get-around-the-jslint-error-dont-make-functions-within-a-loop
22:46:13reactormonkAraq, I assume use that solution, since creating functions in a loop is not going to work
22:47:32Araqhmm that means I'd have to patch the lambda lifting to do this transformation instead :-/
22:47:49reactormonkYep.
23:01:48NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia 4bb8791 AmatCoder [+0 ±2 -0]: Fix 'Ctrl+/ doesn't work on commented lines with no space after the #'
23:01:48NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia 891c8b6 AmatCoder [+0 ±6 -0]: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master'
23:01:48NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia 9ef5b2a AmatCoder [+0 ±2 -0]: Fix 'when caret is before of # the line is commented again
23:01:48NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia d5e4b10 AmatCoder [+0 ±1 -0]: Fix to save configuration when exit with 'Quit' menuitem
23:01:48NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia fbe9b7b AmatCoder [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master'
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23:24:05gradhaweird, when I use chrome against the local nimforum the CSS doesn't seem to work despite the server returning 200 answers, but chrome on the net works, so does safari locally
23:33:58reactormonkdom96, my machine gives me ~ 90MH
23:34:21dom96reactormonk: what miner are you using? and how did you measure that?
23:34:31reactormonkdom96, phoenix-miner and it tells me
23:34:57gradhais there an iOS miner?
23:35:05reactormonkgradha, O.o?
23:35:16gradhaI wonder if I could put my iDevices to mine bitcoins
23:35:36gradhayou know, having hot stuff in my pants all day and that
23:35:48dom96I wonder how well an RPI would do.
23:36:17gradhathe iphone5 presumably has nice vectorized hardware acceleration
23:36:26gradhamaybe it can be used to hash bitcoins
23:36:32reactormonkdom96, should be more.
23:37:02dom96More than your machine?
23:37:17reactormonkdom96, nah, looks average
23:37:24reactormonkbut drags performance as hell
23:40:52gradhaexcellent http://www.bitcoinplus.com/miner/embeddable
23:41:21reactormonk>:)
23:41:37gradhaI'm going to do a pull request on nimforum shortly
23:42:41dom96it seems the RPI is 0.2 MH