<< 24-11-2023 >>
00:22:47FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> there are thousands of nimbus-eth2 instances running for a couple of years now, playing an integral part in securing Ethereum’s mainnet↵https://github.com/status-im/nimbus-eth2
00:23:17FromDiscord<odexine> “Does it compile into runtime code” versus “does it compile into compile time code” though the latter is wrong in a sense
00:23:34FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @redmechanics "any software that actually": there are thousands of nimbus-eth2 instances running for a couple of years now, playing an integral part in securing Ethereum’s mainnet
00:23:59FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> To quote the bridge↵> Arkanoid you can look at compiles as "Does this work on the current backend" and compiles(static(...)) as "does it work for the VM"
00:24:01FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> "Does it execute at compiletime" vs "does it execute at runtime" is prolly better phrasing?
00:24:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Arkanoid you can look at `compiles` as "Does this work on the current backend" and `compiles(static(...))` as "does it work for the VM"
00:24:11FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Ah there we go
00:24:15FromDiscord<ElegantBeef> Fucking slowpoke
00:24:16FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Lol
00:24:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ping
00:25:01FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> If there was a Matrix bot SDK for Nim I'd probably work on a bridge tbh
00:25:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If `compile` was always the VM aware it'd make it a more useless API
00:25:09FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Because this is... Less than ideal :P
00:25:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Someone just needs to finish the rest api wrapping
00:25:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/tandy-1000/matrix-nim-sdk
00:26:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I did make a macro that I thought would make it easier, but I've got a feeling it's less than ideal https://github.com/tandy-1000/matrix-nim-sdk/blob/v1.3/src/matrix/clientserver/clientauth/login.nim
00:26:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It makes more sense as a proc macro probably
00:27:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `proc logout(): bool {.request: endpoints.logout.} = response.code.is2xx()` for probably makes a whole of a lot more sense than what is presently done
00:27:57FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Fair
00:28:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But yea it's all just wrapping the rest api at this point
00:28:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Especially since this is a public forum so there is no need for e2e
00:28:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a worthwhile venture for someone that often changes projects
00:28:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Excuse me whilst I hop to another project
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02:42:33arkanoidthanks for the explanations. It's quite clear the intention, but it's quite confusing the compiles(static(thing)). Like if the static comes before the compilation
02:42:58arkanoiddoes VM run rely on compilation, or is completely indepentent from it?
02:57:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a different backend so code that does not work at runtime can work there and vice versa(atleast in theory)
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03:55:01FromDiscord<jviega> Interesting, the marshal library doesn't unmarshal refs properly; there's a table that caches where IDs were allocated to, and when the second ref to the same object occurs, the value in the table is wrong. It seems like `getpointer()`for the `Any` type (in typeinfo.nim), does an extra dereference, and indeed taking it away works. Is it old code, and refs were previously pointers to pointers?
03:55:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd just say don't use marshal
03:56:29FromDiscord<jviega> Well, I knew it crashed on refs, but I was about to sit down and write my own because I need the basic functionality and would prefer a binary stream anyway, but in reality that'd take longer.
03:56:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> disruptek/frosty
03:59:02FromDiscord<jviega> I don't like unnecessary dependencies, and it'd be better off if the std lib was less buggy 🙂
03:59:28FromDiscord<jviega> I'd write my own before I used one not in the stdlib, it's not too big a project
03:59:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I don't disagree but marshal is a glorified json serialiser
03:59:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Atleast frosty is like serde and can be reused easily
04:02:53FromDiscord<jviega> Yeah that's what I'm saying. And frosty doesn't work w/ refc, but orc still is way too buggy
04:04:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Welcome to your new life of writing generic overloads 😄
04:05:21FromDiscord<jviega> The marshal code is certainly written quite obtusely. But it's what's in the stdlib, and removing a single reference makes it at least usable 🙂 Not sure I want to figure out the onerous process to submit a 2 character patch tho
04:08:03FromDiscord<jviega> Are the instructions / guidelines anywhere?
04:08:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well if you do write your own serialiser remember to handle `enum` `distinct` and `range` 😄
04:08:37FromDiscord<jviega> Yeah, odd those aren't done, not like it's super tough
04:08:43FromDiscord<jviega> But I don't need them either 🙂
04:08:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> In my experience it's just make the change with a test, PR it and be merry
04:09:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Follow NEP1 of course
04:10:17FromDiscord<jviega> For std library patches, tests in runnableExample blocks??
04:11:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Runnable examples for code to showcase how things work
04:11:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `tests/stdlib/....` for tests
04:11:25FromDiscord<jviega> Ah, have never looked at the test harness
04:11:52FromDiscord<jviega> Too much work for 2 characters, I'll just auto-patch for the forseeable future 🙂
04:12:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It uses testament which is a hit or miss depending on your views
04:12:30FromDiscord<jviega> Yeah haven't spent any time w/ it so no opinion
04:12:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Balls/unitest is plenty for me
05:41:42FromDiscord<.bobbbob> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mj5
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06:20:57FromDiscord<.bobbbob> might be making progress, the first 8 bytes of a png file have to have 0D 0A, which is a Dos style newline CR LF, in the nim output code it's missing the 0D. Does loading the file as a nim string somehow get rid of the 0D?
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07:07:39NimEventerNew thread by thedistantforest: Calling the generics parent function, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10677
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09:35:09Amun-Ra.bobbbob: no
09:36:37Amun-RaI'd vote execmdex does that if anything
09:44:41Amun-Rathis or something on shell side, which I doubt
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10:26:05FromDiscord<ebahie> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MjW
10:26:52FromDiscord<ebahie> is this useless as a concept? should i just copy and paste the proc?
10:27:36PMunchWell typically you'd want to split the common parts into a helper function
10:27:56PMunchYou say the endpoint is the same, so I assume it differentiates by the body of the request
10:29:31PMunchSo you create one procedure called loginRequest which takes the body to send, and then one getMe which takes a token and one getMe which takes an email/password combo. Then in those two you construct the body you need to send and call the loginRequest procedure
10:29:36FromDiscord<ebahie> In reply to @PMunch "You say the endpoint": it actually doesn't, the request and response is the exact same but i dont really like the fact that the proc for logging in using your email is just emailLogin() while to login with your token its getMe()
10:30:05PMunchWait, the request and response is exactly the same?
10:30:16FromDiscord<ebahie> yes everything within the proc is the same
10:30:23PMunchThen what's the difference between logging in with email/password and token?
10:30:27PMunchThat doesn't make any sense..
10:30:44PMunchIn that case I'd just have a template made for one of them which calls the other
10:32:04FromDiscord<ebahie> In reply to @PMunch "Then what's the difference": to login using your email is providing your email and password as the procs args while logging in with your token requires only the token but one thing i forgot to mention is that in the email method after logging in you eventually get your token which is asigned to an already existing variable named token
10:32:24FromDiscord<ebahie> so tokenLogin() would not have = token at the end for token: string
10:32:39PMunchSomething like this: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MjX
10:34:23FromDiscord<ebahie> thank you its what im looking for, sorry im a beginner so i dont know how to put it into words
10:34:47PMunchNo worries, doesn't make it easier that english appears to be your second language either :)
10:35:00FromDiscord<ebahie> that too lol
10:35:08PMunch(Just judging from the echo statements in your code, your english is actually really good)
10:35:41FromDiscord<ebahie> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4MjZ
10:36:12PMunchHmm, that `token = token` might cause an issue
10:36:28FromDiscord<ebahie> how so?
10:36:32PMunchI think you want to rename your input token parameter to something else
10:36:48PMunchWell, templates are a bit aggressive with replacing the arguments
10:37:41PMunchSo I think `tokenLogin(client, myToken)` would get turned into `myToken = myToken; getMe(client, myToken)` instead of `token = myToken; getMe(client, myToken)` which is what I suspect you're trying to do
10:38:52FromDiscord<ebahie> wait ill send you approxmatively what im trying to do
10:38:53FromDiscord<ebahie> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk1
10:39:08FromDiscord<ebahie> the code is wrong but it does show about what im trying to do
10:39:24PMunchBy the way, I think I would restructure that code to: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk2. Not really anything Nim specific, but in the case you get an error you might not have the JSON object you expect in the body
10:39:36FromDiscord<ebahie> because typing your token all the time gets annoying
10:40:15PMunchI think I would just store it in the DiscordClient object
10:40:56FromDiscord<ebahie> would it be modifiable?
10:41:18PMunchIf you do `self: var DiscordClient` you can modify it
10:41:39FromDiscord<ebahie> hm alright ill try it
10:42:01FromDiscord<ebahie> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk4
10:42:31FromDiscord<ebahie> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk5
10:42:42PMunchOtherwise you'd probably have to do either something like this: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk3, or like this: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk6
10:44:21PMunchIf you instead allow this: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mk7
10:44:41PMunchOh, and remove that `token` on line 6 of course
10:45:36FromDiscord<ebahie> In reply to @PMunch "If you instead allow": oh this is great, i think ill add token to the object
10:49:19FromDiscord<ebahie> thank you it works
10:54:50FromDiscord<ebahie> actually now that ive done this tokenLogin() is actually useless
10:55:58FromDiscord<ebahie> so now getMe can be used for both methods, nice
11:00:19FromDiscord<shourchats> How does nim modules works, nim doesn't need a main function, kinda like python so if a code is outside a function and i import that as a module what happens? Sorry, don't know much about this topic if it was a silly question
11:00:55Amun-Rashourchats: simply? nothing
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11:01:36Amun-Raeverything on module level is already initialized
11:01:45Amun-Raunlike in python
11:03:57FromDiscord<shourchats> hmm
11:04:29FromDiscord<shourchats> Like in python the code outside gets executed, when imported
11:04:48FromDiscord<shourchats> What happens here if i have a echo outside, nothing happens?
11:04:55Amun-Rathe code on module level is executed once on first import
11:05:19FromDiscord<shourchats> ok, so the echo will work
11:06:30Amun-Ralet me make an example
11:06:37FromDiscord<shourchats> sure
11:07:28Amun-Rahttps://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mka
11:08:16Amun-Raeverything on module level (var, let) is initialized on runtime on start
11:09:04Amun-Ra…so it's already "ready to use" on import
11:10:41Amun-RaI mean import in python is evaluated runtime, whatever you imported in nim was already compiled in before the run
11:33:34NimEventerNew thread by giaco: Suggested `config.nim[s]` switches for debug/release with C or C++ backend, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10679
12:21:16PMunchshourchats, if you want to have something not evaluated on import you can put it in a `when isMainModule:` block
12:21:30PMunchThat makes it only execute if that module is the main module of your program
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13:23:02PMunchOkay, fun little algorithm challenge for anyone who's up for it: https://uploads.peterme.net/circles.png
13:23:20PMunchThe goal is to draw these shapes given the inputs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.
13:24:36PMunchBonus points if you can distinguish between pixels orthogonally next to the edge
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13:50:32PMunchHere's my best attempt so far: http://ix.io/4MkL
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14:59:02FromDiscord<marko9583> I'm trying to use tabby with a header that where column names contain spaces. Like `var header: seq[string] = @["user full name"]` but that gives parse errors: `Error: unhandled exception: Failed to parse, separator expected, got: f. At line: 1 column: 10 [TabbyError]`
14:59:23FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @pmunch↵Here's my attempt:↵https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Ml3↵It might different from the shape you expect.
14:59:33FromDiscord<4zv4l> Is there a library to make dynamic web form ?↵↵Like for example allowing to add a name and age but can press for a “+” button and the form will generate a new entry to add one more person information
15:00:05FromDiscord<marko9583> (edit) removed "that"
15:03:58PMunchdemotomohiro, hmm it's close
15:04:03PMunchBut it's repeating shapes
15:04:46PMunch1 through 4 for example draws the same shape
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15:32:33FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @pmunch↵I fixed code so that it doesn't repeat same shape:↵https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mld
15:48:57FromDiscord<xtrayambak> guys
16:15:44FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @4zv4l "Is there a library": I don't have a lib for it, but I've written that kind of mechanism multiple times by now
16:15:54FromDiscord<Phil> If you want some basis for copy pasting I'm happy to link you one
16:17:33FromDiscord<Phil> Oh wait, you mean with JS, for that I haven't written one in particular but the same principle applies:↵You just need to write a function that translates an object into an HTML form and for that you can write some stuff based on the code I wrote - or come up with your own
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16:28:14FromDiscord<redmechanics> why do i keep getting this error running the template of owlkettle ? (i guess i don't have pkg-config so how can i install it?) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1177646868239503503/message.txt?ex=6573441d&is=6560cf1d&hm=3f4ad0acd59613b5e00dfd002bbef9bb95e8382a40e704a7f4d5415daef360fd&
16:30:09FromDiscord<Phil> err.... what's the command you're running?↵"Template of owlkettle" doesn't ring a bell for me
16:30:15FromDiscord<Phil> Also you're on windows I assume?
16:32:39FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @isofruit "Also you're on windows": yes
16:32:50FromDiscord<Phil> @redmechanics ↵Also did you check out https://github.com/can-lehmann/owlkettle/discussions/53 ?↵(I can't really troubleshoot myself as I don't use windows for various reasons)
16:33:07FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @isofruit "err.... what's the command": it's the code that is in the documentation of owlkettle on github
16:33:35FromDiscord<Phil> There's a ton of code in there and multiple dozens of examples, you'll need to be more specific ^^
16:33:59FromDiscord<Phil> You mean the first example in the README.md?
16:36:39FromDiscord<Phil> One second.... @takemichihanagaki3129 are you RickBaretto?
16:37:32FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "One second.... <@890300313729400832> are": Yes, it's me. Lol
16:37:47FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> I forgot to change my nickname.↵But how did you know?
16:37:49FromDiscord<Phil> Man that took a while to connect
16:38:12FromDiscord<Phil> You literally linked to a discord thread in your windows explainer for owlkettle that mentioned me and I was so confused xD
16:39:13FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "You literally linked to": Makes sense
16:39:22FromDiscord<Phil> Given that this means you're on windows and have used owlkettle before!... Does DevNitrates error message look familiar to you?
16:39:52FromDiscord<Phil> Some command is getting wrongly parsed but I honestly feel like there's too much of the stacktrace missing to see where and how exactly
16:40:47FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Given that this means": DevNitrates? I've never heard about this before.
16:41:00FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @redmechanics "why do i keep": Scrolling up my guys, this one here
16:41:28FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "DevNitrates? I've never heard": Ohhh! Got it. ↵Let me see.
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16:42:40FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "why do i keep": Interesting question. ↵I'll open my pc in some minutes to read this error message.↵But, are you using MSYS?
16:43:29FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> To compile owkettle, you need the pkg-config, or the pkg-config's argument for GTK4.
16:43:55FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> I'm with a new pc, so I have to install gtk-4 yet to help you.
16:45:56FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mlu
16:46:04FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> I think
16:47:02FromDiscord<Phil> Is the way to install gtk-4 on windows so complex that it might make sense for us to keep our own "how to install gtk-4" page in owlkettle?↵Or is whatever instructions the gtk docs provide already sufficient?
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16:47:47FromDiscord<Phil> Because this is a consistent problem and I was under the impression that GTK themselves provided usable installation instructions
16:55:47FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Is the way to": Nope, this is simple to be honest. Just find the package.↵Msys works with pacman and have their own repository of packages.
16:57:11FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Is the way to": For using, yes.↵For installing on msys, they don't provide anything if I'm not wrong.↵↵But for what I've used, they install in a similar way that is on linux, so you won't get any issues using it.
16:58:25FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "For using, yes. For": So assume you're a noob to msys. Where would you get the information to call the correct pacman install command?
16:59:00FromDiscord<Phil> Wait, nevermind, we actually provide the command in the README
17:00:04FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "So assume you're a": The official repository: https://packages.msys2.org/package/
17:00:52FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Wait, nevermind, we actually": I think I wrote about that.↵But I probably forgot about the installation of pkgconfig...
17:01:37FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> When I installed the MSYS on my new machine, I noticed pkg-config is not installed by default.
17:01:52FromDiscord<Phil> Wait, so there's more than just `pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-gtk4 mingw-w64-x86_64-libadwaita` ?
17:02:28FromDiscord<Phil> I mean, I'm already making a prettification PR for the README to turn those install commands into a list.↵If you want to hand me any additions I can just include them
17:03:54FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "When I installed the": yes me too even tho i installed msys2 and gtk 4
17:05:29FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Wait, so there's more": I think it just misses the pkg-config...↵I'll have a look soon.↵↵But when I tried to compile my first time, yes, I just installed these two.
17:05:58FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "yes me too even": Well, I think it's the pkg-config.
17:06:16FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "I mean, I'm already": Alright
17:06:47FromDiscord<Phil> I have no idea what exactly said pkg-config is... is it another package?
17:08:25FromDiscord<rakgew> yes
17:08:35FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "I have no idea": Yes
17:10:08FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> I'm trying to find what is the name of the package.↵I had to install it due to Arturo.
17:10:46FromDiscord<Phil> All good, I'll just update the PR once you can throw me whatever CLI command should be added to the install instructions
17:10:52FromDiscord<Phil> No need to be hasty
17:12:01FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "All good, I'll just": Sure, I'll try to compile it today.↵And I give the feedback, @Phil and @redmechanics.
17:12:41FromDiscord<Phil> Thanks a ton!↵You're basically my go-to person atm for figuring out windows-specific owlkettle issues so I highly appreciate the help!
17:15:03FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Sure, I'll try to": i think pkg-config is installed using the command that is provided here: https://packages.msys2.org/package/mingw-w64-x86_64-pkg-config which i did but pkg-config is still not recognized as a commmand on my pc
17:16:23FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "i think pkg-config is": Can you try `which pkg-config`?
17:16:29FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> On cmd
17:16:47FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> You must make sure that your mingw is at you PATH too.
17:17:12FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> I put my mingw/bin and then I put my usr/bin folder...
17:17:33FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> And also, you must put the bin, the include and lib folders at your path.
17:18:23FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Can you try `which": which is not recognized as a commabnd
17:18:28FromDiscord<redmechanics> (edit) "commabnd" => "command"
17:18:58FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "which is not recognized": 🤔, try `where` so.
17:18:59FromDiscord<Phil> That... sounds like a fundamentally broken shell
17:19:35FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "🤔, try `where` so.": better here is the result of the command: where pkg-config↵INFO: Could not find files for the given pattern(s).
17:19:35FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> Where returns a Windows-ish path, while which a unix-ish path.
17:20:16FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "better here is the": Are you running from msys?
17:20:46FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> (edit) "msys?" => "the msys terminal?"
17:23:24FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Are you running from": no i wasn't so retried the which command and the result is: /usr/bin/pkg-config
17:24:36FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @redmechanics "no i wasn't so": Can you try to compile your project from the msys' terminal?↵If this is recognizing the gtk and the pkg-config, this should work.
17:24:48FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> Probably, this is a path issue.
17:29:14FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @PMunch "Okay, fun little algorithm": Use pixie, remove alpha != 255 and upscale?
17:29:54FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Can you try to": nim command isn't recognized in the msys2 terminal
17:31:24FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> probably isn't in PATH in the msys2 terminal, if you Nim previously for use in cmd.exe
17:32:15FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> I like to use choosenim in msys2 to install Nim for use in that context
17:38:00FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4MlM
17:50:37FromDiscord<redmechanics> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "In this case we": i added the directory of where the pkg-config command is in my Path env variable but i still cant run it
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18:36:58FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4Mm2
18:38:19FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> (edit) "http://ix.io/4Mm2" => "http://ix.io/4Mm5"
18:38:38FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> (edit) "http://ix.io/4Mm5" => "https://paste.rs/sOD9A"
18:41:16FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mm7
18:46:28FromDiscord<spotlightkid> Error messages?
18:47:56FromDiscord<starkiller1493> How can I turn an object into it
18:48:04FromDiscord<starkiller1493> (edit) "it" => "it's child?"
18:48:33FromDiscord<starkiller1493> (edit) "it's child?" => "a one that's inheriting from it?"
18:48:58FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> In reply to @toma400 "Okay, so basically I": I just realised, somehow in this error message the directory has weirdly twisted directory name (niesamowicie ważne (...)). But why would this be a thing with like specific function being used, but not something happening everytime? And why would it even do something like that?
18:50:51FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> (edit) "In reply to @toma400 "Okay, so basically I": I just realised, somehow in this error message the directory ... has" added "for output"
18:55:21FromDiscord<spotlightkid> The error message does not display here in the Matrix chat. Somehow the discord bridge does not handle it correctly.
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18:57:12FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> In reply to @spotlightkid "The error message does": It tells that cannot open output file, and it tells path to desired .exe location with distored Polish `ż`, saying there's no such file or directory↵collect2.exe tells that `ld returned 1 exit status`↵And then error goes `execution of an external program failed 'gcc.exe @skinv2_linkerArgs.txt`
18:57:25FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "In this case we": As someone who currently has their brain shut off, for instructions does that mean we need to provide specific instructions how to install msys or sth?
18:57:55FromDiscord<TӨMΛ ☠> I have update on that issue, since seeing this distorted `ż`, I tried to ask my friend to run this code elsewhere and it apparently works :o↵No idea why it does have that very selective issue
19:47:47FromDiscord<booomintunes> In reply to @boom_bang "i had to redownload": I got a new acc
19:47:57FromDiscord<booomintunes> and for whatever reason it doesn't stop
19:48:17FromDiscord<booomintunes> Even when I redownload the Nim compiler and get a new C compiler
19:50:02FromDiscord<booomintunes> Compiler gives off this weird string
20:09:22FromDiscord<fabric.input_output> does the push pragma cause the pragma you push to be applied to every node between itself and the pop pragma?
20:10:18FromDiscord<fabric.input_output> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4Mmp
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20:14:37FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @booomintunes "Compiler gives off this": what's the weird string?
20:19:00FromDiscord<booomintunes> In reply to @michaelb.eth "what's the weird string?": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1177704945462550609/message.txt?ex=65737a33&is=65610533&hm=3aee3c6723f2f95092cb4b1393d47e6509d8d246f2e1c21560ad9e3606758f8e&
20:19:12FromDiscord<booomintunes> very incomprehensible
20:19:21FromDiscord<booomintunes> can tell something went wrong
20:19:27FromDiscord<booomintunes> can't tell what though
20:21:05FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> are you running in Windows Terminal or cmd.exe or what exactly? Have you enabled utf-8 at OS-level for Windows?
20:21:34FromDiscord<booomintunes> Windows
20:21:42FromDiscord<booomintunes> I don't know if I enabled utf8
20:22:03FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @booomintunes "Windows": meaning the Windows Terminal program specifically?
20:22:12FromDiscord<booomintunes> I'm using VSCode
20:22:37FromDiscord<booomintunes> It says I'm using powershell also
20:22:51FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @booomintunes "I don't know if": Language settings -> Administrative language settings -> Change system locale -> Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support
20:24:41FromDiscord<booomintunes> Yes
20:37:18om3gaguts what is minimal version of clang supported by nim 2.0.0?
20:39:28FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @booomintunes "Yes": maybe try running the nim compiler commands directly, in Windows Terminal (i.e. apart from VSCode) and check if you get same garbled output
20:41:02FromDiscord<booomintunes> In reply to @michaelb.eth "maybe try running the": Yep, same output
20:42:35FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> can you try an MSYS2 + choosenim setup and then run the commands in a mintty/Bash session?
20:43:00FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> and/or see what happens with a WSL2 setup
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21:15:53FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmI
21:16:36FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "<@180601887916163073> <@927619710672060488>, yes, t": I would recommend install the toolchain itself.
21:21:19om3ga /root/nim/lib/pure/times.nim:511: undefined reference to `__mulodi4'
21:21:32rockcaveraNim automatically changes the console output in Windows to UTF8 and when you close the program it returns to the adopted page
21:21:36om3gathis is in Alpine
21:22:12rockcaveraom3ga, alpine uses musl, this part of the libc may not be implemented
21:22:13om3gaI almost reached latest version, which looks like not supports cpu on this i586 machiene
21:22:26om3garockcavera: hmm
21:22:43om3gabut I use clang
21:22:56rockcaveraare you using clang? what version? clang -v
21:23:07om3gathis function definitely is in compiler-rt
21:23:32rockcaveraWhat target is used by default in your clang?
21:23:51rockcaveraclang version 17.0.5
21:23:51rockcaveraTarget: x86_64-pc-windows-msvc
21:23:51rockcaveraThread model: posix
21:23:51rockcaveraInstalledDir: e:\compilers\llvm64\bin
21:23:54rockcaveraOn windows
21:24:05FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "<@180601887916163073> <@927619710672060488>, yes, t": So basically turn↵`pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-gtk4 mingw-w64-x86_64-libadwaita`↵Into↵`pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-gtk4 mingw-w64-x86_64-libadwaita mingw-w64-x86_64-toolchain` ?
21:24:17om3gaone moment...
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21:25:17FromDiscord<Phil> Actually, might as well continue this discussion in the PR
21:25:32om3gaAlpine clang version 13.0.1
21:25:38FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "So basically turn `pacman": I commented in your PR
21:25:58rockcaveraom3ga and the target?
21:26:04rockcaveraTarget: x86_64-pc-windows-msvc
21:26:07FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "I commented in your": I was about to repeat my question from here into there 😛↵I'm mostly struggling translating your suggestions into a sentence to write in the markdown ^^
21:26:16FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "So basically turn `pacman": In the end of the day the user will be using the toolchain anyway, because he needs the gcc and binutils for compile any nim project.
21:26:22om3gai don't see anything like this
21:26:32om3gaselected multilib @m32
21:26:41om3gaah, here is target
21:26:45rockcaverajust type: clang -v
21:26:51om3gai586-alpine-linux-musl
21:26:55rockcaveramusl
21:26:56rockcavera=)
21:26:58om3gadamn
21:27:01FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> @redmechanics my account's PATH if you need some help. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1177722062937260172/image.png?ex=65738a24&is=65611524&hm=ee278aa664595b7de9873f72f052f7bcb0b6a95ff7f8da8883ffa1ab30f29c0d&
21:27:03om3gaand what to do?
21:27:18FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> (edit) "@redmechanics my account's PATH if you need some help. ... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1177722062937260172/image.png?ex=65738a24&is=65611524&hm=ee278aa664595b7de9873f72f052f7bcb0b6a95ff7f8da8883ffa1ab30f29c0d&" added "I'm able to use it from anywhere."
21:27:51rockcaveratry --passC:"-target i586-alpine-linux-gnu"
21:28:30om3gaok
21:28:40om3gaI will reply in 20 minutes :D
21:29:29FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "As someone who currently": I don't think this is necessary because the MSYS's documentation is enough to understand the process.↵And if they update their documentation, you'll need too.
21:29:37rockcaveraon my alpine VM I use gcc
21:30:11FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "I don't think this": So more of a "Make sure to have Msys installed and on your path <link to docs>" situation ?
21:31:17FromDiscord<Phil> Waaait a minute, shouldn't the toolchain package show up like... somewhere in their getting started page at least?↵ - msys64/mingw64/bin
21:31:30FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "least?↵ - msys64/mingw64/bin" => "least?↵https://www.msys2.org/"
21:32:17FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "So more of a": Yes! I think a "how to set MSYS" would be great, but into a discussion or smt else. I can write it if you want to. And then you point it on that readme.
21:32:28FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4MmM
21:32:39FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Yes! I think a": That would be highly appreciated
21:32:42FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Waaait a minute, shouldn't": When I installed my first time there was. Strange...
21:33:00FromDiscord<Phil> I mean I'm just looking for the word "toolchain" and it shows up nowhere
21:33:04FromDiscord<Phil> Was it maybe moved into the installer?
21:33:09FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> (edit) "there was." => "was there."
21:33:18FromDiscord<Phil> Like that just does shit and voila, toolchain package installed
21:33:21FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "installed" => "installed?"
21:33:53FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Was it maybe moved": Nope, they didn't because I had to install everything again manually.
21:34:03FromDiscord<Phil> That... wow that sucks
21:34:34FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> The first time I installed it was like 1 year ago, they provided the toolchain in their documentation if I'm not wrong.
21:35:19FromDiscord<Phil> I mean the word gets mentioned in "Documentation > Environments"
21:35:21FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> This last week I tried and nope, they did not come with the installer, I had to install everything again.
21:35:30FromDiscord<Phil> Where they mention the various toolchains available
21:35:43FromDiscord<Phil> Not how to install them though
21:37:31FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmN
21:38:25FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmN" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmO"
21:38:40FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmO" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4MmP"
21:38:48FromDiscord<Phil> Check. So in terms of planning: @takemichihanagaki3129 you write the show-and-tell discussion topic to link to in the PR, I add to the PR comments what we just chatted about and I add the link to the PR once it exists?
21:38:58rockcaveraom3ga see this https://github.com/dslm4515/BMLFS/issues/12#issuecomment-766904651
21:39:10FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "So" => "Shoooouuuuuld be useful for Takemichi I think maybe↵So"
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21:41:01om3garockcavera: I tried -rtlib=compiler-rt previously
21:41:02FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @isofruit "Check. Shoooouuuuuld be useful": Yes. I'm writing right now the show&tell.
21:41:17om3garockcavera: not works, Illegal instruction
21:41:43om3gabut strange thing is that the same code works well with musl in 64bit linux
21:42:16om3ganah, changing target not helps
21:42:35om3gaI thought it is compiler bug
21:42:46om3gabut seems not
21:43:22om3gaI will try to upgrade on next release, meybe clang 15 will help
21:43:46FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Yes. I'm writing right": one small thing for your writeup, be sure to consistently refer MSYS2. It’s a completely separate project from MSYS, i.e. it’s not MSYS version 2.
21:44:08FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> (edit) "In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Yes. I'm writing right": one small thing for your writeup, be sure to consistently refer ... MSYS2." added "to"
21:45:09rockcaveraom3ga -rtlib=compiler-rt must be passed by --passL:-rtlib=compiler-rt
21:45:57rockcaveraalso try --passC:-D__WORDSIZE=32
21:46:29om3gaI tried this
21:46:40om3gaIllegal Instruction
21:46:55rockcavera;\
21:47:18om3gayeah, looks like something wrong in Alpine
21:47:28om3gaor maybe not for 32 bit
21:47:52om3gabut.. how it compiles with mingw for windows then
21:48:04om3gastrange
21:49:52om3gaah, maybe because mingw generates machine code for i686
21:50:48om3gain theory it should be possible to replace this overflow detection with own function
21:50:58om3galet's see
21:51:09om3gathis computer is so damn slow...
21:52:58rockcavera`__mulodi4` appears to be some overflow checking thing. Try compiling with -d:danger
21:55:17rockcaveratry nim c -d:nimEmulateOverflowChecks ...
21:57:31om3garockavera, already tried
21:57:50om3gathis code jad -d:danger in the beginning, and -Ofast
21:57:56om3ga*had
21:58:23om3gano, seems something broken, or probably not supported by i586
21:58:44om3gaI will ask on llvm channel probably
21:58:45rockcaveracan't you install gcc?
21:59:06om3gawith gcc it throws exception about int overflow
21:59:17om3gawhich shou;dn't be there
21:59:53rockcaverastrange
22:00:07om3gathe code works well in 64 bit os
22:00:24om3gavery precisely tested
22:00:47PMunchFun.. I get an error from the regex module
22:00:53PMunchOnly problem is, I don't import that module
22:01:02om3gamagic :)
22:01:07PMunchAnd the error doesn't tell me where the error is coming from
22:01:08om3gatoday is mystic friday
22:01:13rockcaveraom3ga in your alpine uname -a returns what?
22:03:08om3garockavera Linux box 5.15.138-0-lts #1-Alpine SMP Thu, 09 Nov 2023 09:12:25 +0000 i586 Linux
22:03:34om3ganow I started another upgrade to 3.17
22:05:14rockcaverain fact it is the same version as my alpine, but i586 architecture
22:05:57rockcaverathere must be a 64-bit integer emulation problem that is not present in the musl
22:07:14rockcaverain clang msvc there is an instruction for 128-bit division that also causes reference problems, but using clang gnu it no longer works
22:07:15om3gayeah, probably this is the issues
22:08:00om3gawhat I found in google, this issue starts back from 2015
22:25:03FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @michaelb.eth "one small thing for": Thanks for the advise!↵If you want to review my discussion and give me some feedback I would be glad! https://github.com/can-lehmann/owlkettle/discussions/144
22:31:57FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> I’d be happy to provide some feedback, but won’t have an opportunity until late tonight (I’m in us central tz) or probably tomorrow
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22:41:47FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @takemichihanagaki3129 "Thanks for the advise!": Updated the Readme accordingly
22:44:58FromDiscord<takemichihanagaki3129> In reply to @michaelb.eth "I’d be happy to": No prob!
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23:04:34FromDiscord<bootymonster69> the current procedure is exited when it raises an exception, correct?
23:04:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If there is no handler inside the procedure, yes
23:05:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It walks up the stack until it is handled
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