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00:12:53FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> Does anyone know of a command to get the current cpu temperature on linux? Bonus points if its native and not an apt package
00:13:28FromDiscord<auxym> probably something under /dev/ that you can read from
00:13:32FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> I should specify, I mean a bash command. a nim function would be great, but I'm pretty sure that isn't a thing.
00:13:50FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> yea thats what I was thinking.
00:13:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `sensors` exists but dont know how portable
00:14:37FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> I can always write multiple functions for it. trying to flesh out a system monitor module.
00:16:27FromDiscord<auxym> apparently google tells me it's under `/sys/class/thermal` though I assume whatever is in there is highly hardware-dependant
00:17:28FromDiscord<auxym> Why not use `sensors` though?
00:18:03FromDiscord<auxym> or lm-sensors: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lm_sensors
00:18:15FromDiscord<auxym> anyways this doesn't really have anything to do with nim...
00:18:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well they want to get linux temperature in Nim 😀
00:18:41FromDiscord<auxym> oh yeah
00:18:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd say use libsensors and ship that with your binary
00:19:11FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> yea its for a system monitor written in nim, lol also I'm not sure my other programming discord servers would know honestly
00:19:26FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I'd say use libsensors": this is probably what I'll do.
00:19:53FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> I'll look at /thermal but youre right that seems like its hw dependent.
00:20:36FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> I'm trying to keep the dependency list a slim as possible, or at least keep many of the dependencies optional
00:21:27FromDiscord<auxym> my understanding is that libsensors/lm-sensors is basically a high-level interface over the stuff in /sys, to make it more portable across HW, etc.
00:21:33FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> this is for a robotics application so dependencies can be costly and painful
00:21:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Indeed aux
00:22:02FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> In reply to @auxym "my understanding is that": yea i figured, itll save me the trouble of maintaining it
00:22:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well it also doesnt directly use files 😀
00:22:42FromDiscord<auxym> the readme seems to imply that libsensors can be statically linked (https://github.com/lm-sensors/lm-sensors), though it's lgpl
00:24:17FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> Maybe I'll search for some system monitor source code on gh and see how others have done it.
00:24:44FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> its ironic that ambient temp sensors are easier and more straightforward to deal with
00:25:00FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> but they dont tell me much about cpu temp
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09:17:43NimEventerNew thread by JPLRouge: Dear Nim enthusiasts, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8949
09:21:06FromDiscord<Rika> i dont understand
09:22:54FromDiscord<Phil> I read JPL's post, I understand the gist, I have no idea what a designer screen type is
09:23:20FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "I read JPL's post, I understand the gist, I have no idea what a designer screen type is ... " added "or what he wanted to express with "console handling""
09:23:36FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "gist," => "gist being "nim is nice, readable and fast","
09:24:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm uncertain but i think they've made a ncurses like library that supports those console versions?
09:24:44FromDiscord<Phil> I don't know what any of those things are either, though I know the word "library"
09:25:06FromDiscord<Phil> console versions means stuff like zsh, fsh, the default bash console etc.?
09:25:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No those are shells
09:25:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 5250 is an ibm terminal https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/e9/9f/f0e99f1a60a7d09c592979aae9fbc0c0.jpg
09:26:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> As is a 3270
09:26:27FromDiscord<Phil> Wait, like, "terminal = ancient computer" ?
09:26:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea
09:26:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> terminal isnt really a computer as much as an interface with the computer
09:28:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ncurses is a library that abstracts terminal applications
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09:30:31FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/scV
09:37:36FromDiscord<Schelz> Nim support esp32 ?
09:38:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/elcritch/nesper stuff like this exists
09:38:26FromDiscord<Schelz> Thx
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09:56:11FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> done. it requires `--out` option, but nim did not honor the option actually
10:04:09FromDiscord<fbpyr> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGB
10:04:38FromDiscord<haolian9 (高浩亮)> but i believe the generated tags is not compatible with universal-ctags
10:06:55FromDiscord<fbpyr> nvm, got it via `btn.inner_text` 🙂
10:07:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `btn.innerText = "test_btn"`?
10:07:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The object's fields arent visible due to the doc gen, but here they're https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/version-1-6/lib/js/dom.nim#L183-L205
10:07:46FromDiscord<ajusa> can I subclass `string`? Tried doing↵`type mystr = object of string` and `type mystr = string of RootObj` but neither of those worked
10:07:57FromDiscord<Deceptive> How do I migrate from std/json to jsony?
10:08:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You cannot inherit from string
10:08:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can make a distinct string which is kinda like a subclass
10:08:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `type MyStr = distinct string` is similar to what you want I imagine
10:08:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> replace all your serializer function calls with jsony ones?
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10:09:26Amun-Raajusa: what do you want to achieve?
10:09:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ajusa are you after custom logic to your `mystr`?
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10:09:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea what amun said!
10:09:59FromDiscord<ajusa> custom logic and data to a string, while retaining all existing string operations
10:10:07FromDiscord<ajusa> distinct doesn't do the latter afaik
10:10:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> converter with distinct does
10:10:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> We went over this!
10:10:24FromDiscord<Deceptive> In reply to @Elegantbeef "replace all your serializer": I will try that I guess.
10:10:30FromDiscord<ajusa> but converters don't work with generics
10:10:40Amun-Ra{.borrow.} should work too
10:10:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They work for generics, just have to be concrete, what're you doing fully
10:11:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I might be able to help
10:11:04FromDiscord<fbpyr> thank you [Elegantbeef](https://matrix.to/#/@elegantbeef:matrix.org) 😌
10:11:16Amun-Rayes, a-z problem
10:12:19FromDiscord<ajusa> https://github.com/ajusa/nimtenbrew/blob/7cab445edba2910a9a93db0e362f697be927f341/src/v2.nim#L19
10:12:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You dont use cast for distinct conversions
10:12:51FromDiscord<ajusa> I believe the issue with this code was that the `toSize` converter isn't concrete, which means I can't use it
10:12:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it's just `SubType base`
10:13:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But yes that is the issue
10:13:19FromDiscord<ajusa> so what was the workaround I should use?
10:14:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There isnt a great work around here since the converter needs to be instantiated manually
10:15:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So you basically need a template that emits a converter with a type
10:16:22FromDiscord<ajusa> so every time someone uses a specific generic type, I need to somehow make a concrete converter for it? is there an easy way to do that?
10:16:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There isnt really
10:17:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGD
10:18:50FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGE
10:19:22FromDiscord<ajusa> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You need to do": does makeTyp need to be called before each use of a generic then?
10:19:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGF
10:20:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd really say type conversions on distincts are hardly that annoying
10:20:18FromDiscord<ajusa> well it's double the code then isn't it
10:20:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How?
10:21:00FromDiscord<ajusa> I need to call makeTyp and then also use the exact same type definition in an object. the type is basically being defined in two places
10:21:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What?
10:21:34FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGG
10:22:08FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/uO4
10:22:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QGH
10:23:08FromDiscord<ajusa> oh
10:23:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It creates and L-value and dont need to use cast
10:24:21FromDiscord<ajusa> it's acceptable, but as the fields increase I figured it might get annoying... I think I'll start simple and try the converters if it actually is annoying
10:24:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Users can of course borrow procedures they want generically
10:24:51FromDiscord<ajusa> didn't know about the lvalue conversion lol, I was doing converters to the right side which felt awful
10:26:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Perhaps there is an RFC idea, making it so converters do generic inference for distincts
10:28:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Although the issue is more that borrowing is hard
10:28:03FromDiscord<ajusa> oh is that even possible? I thought it was more of a "really hard to solve" problem, kind of how you can't have converters go a -> b -> c automatically, they are limited to a single step
10:28:30FromDiscord<ajusa> seems like it would slow down compile time a ton, but I have no clue about compiler internals
10:28:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean really distincts should havea `{.borrow: all.}`
10:29:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> which would mean in everycase a base would be valid this would be aswell
10:29:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Probably could make an RFC and implement it very easily
10:29:31FromDiscord<ajusa> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I mean really distincts": yeah this would be fantastic
10:29:33PMunchIs it then distinct any more?
10:29:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
10:29:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's still a distinct type
10:30:06PMunchBut if it behaves exactly like the base type?
10:30:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It doesnt behave exactly
10:30:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can attach type information and the base cannot dispatch into it
10:30:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> And two distincts that both borrow all are not interopable
10:30:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They need converted
10:31:32FromDiscord<ajusa> clearly I've got some sort of convoluted use case that would be easier with it lol, so a distinct type that borrows all of the other operations would be cool.
10:32:57FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/7Q7
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10:34:21FromDiscord<ajusa> I'll try and open a really simple RFC, but I'm not a compiler dev so I can only provide reasonable usecase and expected behavior
10:34:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/v5E
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10:34:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Pmunch that's what i'm proposing
10:34:36FromDiscord<ajusa> yep that exactly
10:35:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Eh i have a RFC for nimskull somewhat related though talks about removing generic type aliases
10:37:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There are many usages of distinct, it's not just safety
10:38:12nrds<YouLoveIran/freenode99> hi, #freenode is moderated because you American motherfuckers don't want to hear the truth? root Andrew Lee bitch, what happened with free speech you motherfucker?
10:38:15nrds<YouLoveIran/freenode99> US Congress wants to expel Russia from UN Security Council - https://www.rt.com/russia/550558-congress-expel-russia-security-council/ I can't wait to see China joining the fight! Prepare for a world war American bitch! Hide your family underground! We coming for you!
10:38:20nrds<YouLoveIran/freenode99> root you're a fucking bitch, you destroyed freenode and silenced everyone who speak against terrorism by the United States of America, where is my free speech Andrew fucking Lee? I would jump on you and beat you death you mofo
10:38:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> lol
10:39:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Gotta feel bad when they share a RT link, really hurts the morale
10:40:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Anyway ajusa make a well thoughout RFC for why you want to borrow all and i'll probably pile on
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10:41:43FromDiscord<ajusa> oh god it has to be good?
10:43:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean it doesnt have to be amazing thoughout, but a single compelling use case or reason to add it is all that's really needed
10:43:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I can probably make the PR relatively quick if i'm not wrong, but not going to spend any time without an RFC personally
10:44:39FromDiscord<ajusa> gotcha, well I'm working on it now (and I can edit it if looks bad or not well written)
10:45:38PMunch@Prestige, we really need some kind of filter to remove these trolls
10:45:47PMunchOtherwise we'll have to kick the nrds bot..
10:46:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's mostly just a summary of what I said, i'll be going to sleep soon so cant give any input now
10:46:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What pmunch you dont like literal russian trolls 😀
10:49:19PMunchHaha, I don't mind the Russian trolls any more than the other trolls spamming messages about Freenode being bad..
10:49:36PMunchNeither are on topic for this channel
11:00:30FromDiscord<ajusa> @ElegantBeef not sure if you are still awake but https://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/450
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11:21:23FromDiscord<fbpyr> is there a way to use html strings generated with `htmlgen` directly in `dom` to create a new node?
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11:54:14FromDiscord<mratsim> @ajusa don't vote for your own RFC
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12:14:07NimEventerNew thread by Arnetheduck: Raises tracking and no more cyclic references in `chronos`, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8950
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12:27:57FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Is it normal autocompletion is broken? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946745331234779168/unknown.png
12:33:09FromDiscord<Rika> kinda
12:33:18FromDiscord<Rika> nimsuggest is shoddy
12:34:04FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Rika "nimsuggest is shoddy": what should I do?
12:34:25FromDiscord<Rika> use a mixture of nimsuggest and other autosuggest engines like "in buffer"
12:34:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> is "in buffer" a plugin?
12:36:24FromDiscord<auxym> built in vim
12:37:02FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Oh no! VIM!
12:37:05FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> 😱
12:39:15FromDiscord<Rika> idk man i use vim and thats what its called
12:39:35FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Ah I see↵I use VS Code
13:04:50FromDiscord<ajusa> In reply to @mratsim "<@!102899813149855744> don't vote for": Sorry about that, didn't know!
13:05:13FromDiscord<ajusa> (edit) "In reply to @mratsim "<@!102899813149855744> don't vote for": Sorry about that, didn't know! ... " added "Removed my like"
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13:05:26FromDiscord<ajusa> (edit) "know!" => "know the likes were actually used to make decisions!"
13:10:34FromDiscord<Traveler> Hey guys, how does one `echo` with a carriage return?
13:11:16FromDiscord<Traveler> the docs state `\c` but `echo fmt"{somevar}\c"` does not rresult in a carriage return
13:13:15FromDiscord<hmmm> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHv
13:13:41FromDiscord<enthus1ast> !echo repr @[1,2,3]
13:13:44FromDiscord<Traveler> @hmmm does `repr` work
13:13:48FromDiscord<Traveler> ^
13:13:56FromDiscord<enthus1ast> withouth the !
13:14:07PMunch!eval echo repr @[1, 2, 3]
13:14:10NimBot0x7fa62174d050@[1, 2, 3]
13:14:14FromDiscord<fbpyr> @Traveler\: iirc there is a warning on newline chars. for that you could use `&"some {var_str}\n"`
13:14:17FromDiscord<enthus1ast> ah eval
13:14:59FromDiscord<hmmm> what's this 0x7fa62174d050
13:15:07FromDiscord<enthus1ast> the address
13:15:09PMunchThe address in memory of the sequence
13:15:14FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Yeah
13:15:19FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> like Java I think
13:15:24PMunch!eval echo $(@[1, 2, 3])
13:15:25FromDiscord<hmmm> hmm
13:15:26NimBot@[1, 2, 3]
13:15:34FromDiscord<hmmm> perfect!
13:15:40PMunchJust a normal $ works fine :P
13:15:50FromDiscord<hmmm> haha
13:16:01FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> !eval echo $([1, 2, 3])
13:16:02PMunchEcho of course does that by default
13:16:02FromDiscord<Rika> You could just not $ when suing echo
13:16:03FromDiscord<Rika> Using
13:16:03NimBot[1, 2, 3]
13:16:07PMunch!eval echo @[1, 2, 3]
13:16:10NimBot@[1, 2, 3]
13:16:13FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> ah yeah it works without the at
13:16:21FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> (edit) "ah yeah it works without the at ... " added "symbol"
13:16:32PMunchYeah the @ is just to make it a sequence and not an arary
13:16:44FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @PMunch "Yeah the @ is": what's the difference
13:16:46FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> (edit) "difference" => "difference?"
13:16:55FromDiscord<Traveler> array has fixed length at compile time
13:17:04FromDiscord<Traveler> sequence is similar to vector in c++
13:17:09FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and i guess is allocated on the stack or?
13:17:13FromDiscord<Traveler> heap
13:17:14FromDiscord<Rika> Stack yes
13:17:21FromDiscord<Traveler> array = stack
13:17:22FromDiscord<Rika> Or do you mean seq
13:17:30FromDiscord<enthus1ast> no array
13:17:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Traveler "array has fixed length": so it's like C arrays
13:17:54FromDiscord<Traveler> yes
13:18:02FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> familiar then
13:18:05FromDiscord<Traveler> at leas that is how i understand it
13:18:11FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> and sequences are kinda arraylists in Java
13:18:12PMunchYes
13:18:30PMunchNot sure about arraylists
13:18:34PMunchThose might be linked lists
13:18:36FromDiscord<Traveler> but the carriage return i cant figure out
13:19:04PMunchSequences are just a malloced array that will be realloced if it runs out of space
13:19:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @PMunch "Sequences are just a": so like Java, C#, ...?
13:19:28PMunch@Traveler, printing a carriage return?
13:19:36FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Traveler "the docs state `\c`": fmt is a raw string, use & to mitigate or add a space between fmt and the string
13:19:38PMunch@System64_~_Flandre_Scarlet, maybe?
13:19:54FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Rika "fmt is a raw": fmt without the space makes a raw string
13:19:54FromDiscord<konsumlamm> ArrayLists are based on arrays
13:19:59FromDiscord<Traveler> I am using `echo &"T={ti} \c"`
13:20:06FromDiscord<Traveler> this produces newlines in my terminal
13:20:18FromDiscord<Rika> Sounds right, what’s the issue?
13:20:28Amun-RaTraveler: echo does that by default
13:20:43FromDiscord<Traveler> carriage return should reset it to the beginning to the line
13:20:50Amun-RaTraveler: if you don't want to have NL use stdout.write
13:20:50FromDiscord<Rika> Oh you don’t want them, yeah use “stdout.write”
13:20:56FromDiscord<Traveler> i want this print("test", end = "\r")
13:21:02FromDiscord<Traveler> (in python)
13:21:09Amun-Rastdout.write "foobar\r"
13:21:31FromDiscord<Traveler> ah ok ik will have look
13:21:48FromDiscord<enthus1ast> does python print flushes the output stream?
13:22:01FromDiscord<Traveler> not if you use end
13:22:02FromDiscord<enthus1ast> if yes then you have to do a\:↵stdout.flushFile()
13:22:15Amun-Rathat is OS dependent
13:22:32Amun-Rayou don't have to flush stderr in general, you have to flush stdout
13:22:35FromDiscord<enthus1ast> ok ic↵(@Traveler)
13:23:44FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @Traveler\: if you want to have even more control, have a look at the terminal module and illwill
13:24:51FromDiscord<Traveler> https://nim-lang.github.io/Nim/terminal.html this one?
13:25:13FromDiscord<enthus1ast> this and https://github.com/johnnovak/illwill
13:26:30FromDiscord<Traveler> Thanks!
13:26:50FromDiscord<Traveler> haha point 3 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946760149081681950/unknown.png
13:27:21FromDiscord<enthus1ast> another point\: don't use it if your input is non ascii ;)
13:27:25FromDiscord<enthus1ast> does not work yet
13:28:15FromDiscord<enthus1ast> will do it once i need illwill (and non ascii input) again
13:35:40FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/Jhq
13:48:18FromDiscord<mratsim> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHB
13:49:06FromDiscord<mratsim> Parameter passing:↵- By default, Nim passes objects larger than 24 bytes by reference (the {.nimcall.} convention). For FFI, you can use {.bycopy.} or {.byref.} to force one behavior or the other.
13:49:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I'm interoperating with a C library in this case
13:50:03FromDiscord<mratsim> Copy behavior:↵- objects have value semantics, they are copied on assignment and on the stack↵- ref objects have reference semantics, there is a refcount, commonly called Nim "GC"
13:50:51FromDiscord<mratsim> for interop with C I usually start by using c2nim on the C header and then go over by hand.
13:51:10FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> It's what I did I think
13:51:34FromDiscord<mratsim> though sometimes I change the bycopy/byref if I see that a type is always used by ref
13:52:03FromDiscord<mratsim> example: https://github.com/status-im/nim-blscurve/blob/master/blscurve/blst/blst_abi.nim#L84-L121
13:52:18FromDiscord<auxym> since we're on the topic... any idea why c2nim really wants to annotate all object defs with `bycopy`?
13:52:23FromDiscord<mratsim> and they will be passed by pointers here: https://github.com/status-im/nim-blscurve/blob/master/blscurve/blst/blst_abi.nim#L196-L214
13:52:39FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @auxym "since we're on the": Because by default C is bycopy
13:52:50FromDiscord<auxym> my understanding was that object have value semantics by default
13:52:58FromDiscord<auxym> (edit) "object" => "objects"
13:53:09FromDiscord<mratsim> then if you see that all procs are `ptr MyObject` just change byref and remove the `ptr`
13:54:00Amun-Ramratsim: does it work exactly like passing pointers to objects in C?
13:54:23FromDiscord<mratsim> yes
13:54:28Amun-Ragood to know
13:54:36FromDiscord<Deceptive> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/SNe
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14:01:29nrds<Prestige99> PMunch yeah I'm doing to ask them to just remove the freenode bridge at this point, don't think there's a way to filter it out
14:01:47FromDiscord<Deceptive> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHF
14:02:42FromDiscord<enthus1ast> imho jsony directly converts to object
14:03:13FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and does not have a JsonNode (like the std/json)
14:03:49FromDiscord<enthus1ast> so you could just define an object with the stuff you want, and later use jsony to generate a json string
14:04:22FromDiscord<Deceptive> How it would like in the code? I am don't really have a good grasp in Nim :/
14:04:58FromDiscord<enthus1ast> is this the structure?
14:05:07FromDiscord<enthus1ast> or could it change?
14:06:15FromDiscord<Deceptive> In reply to @enthus1ast "is this the structure?": Like uh... it's structure↵↵The software itself should insert the stuff which is `"value": "" & test & "",` here. And test will be replaced with other thing.
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14:11:08FromDiscord<enthus1ast> something like this maybe\:
14:12:12FromDiscord<enthus1ast> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHL
14:12:57FromDiscord<enthus1ast> if the fields structure is modular you could also just use a table for this
14:15:40FromDiscord<enthus1ast> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHM
14:15:47FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yes works
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14:19:14FromDiscord<Deceptive> In reply to @enthus1ast "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHL": Damn, looks a bit of clunky
14:19:34FromDiscord<Deceptive> If I will compare the stuff I made above, and one you wrote.
14:19:56FromDiscord<enthus1ast> mine is type safe
14:20:29FromDiscord<enthus1ast> but i guess there are others ways to make it unclunky
14:21:20FromDiscord<enthus1ast> do you just wanto store the json string?
14:22:43FromDiscord<Deceptive> In reply to @enthus1ast "do you just wanto": yeah
14:23:05FromDiscord<enthus1ast> then just add a $ \:)
14:23:08FromDiscord<enthus1ast> $ %\
14:24:33FromDiscord<Deceptive> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/Txb
14:24:38FromDiscord<Deceptive> I am not sure if the code is valid tho
14:24:47FromDiscord<enthus1ast> $ %\
14:25:13FromDiscord<Deceptive> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHP" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QHQ"
14:25:15FromDiscord<Deceptive> `var data = $ %{"content": begin & testing, "username": "Test"}`↵↵good?
14:27:28FromDiscord<enthus1ast> i think jsony does not have the %\ macro
14:28:04FromDiscord<Deceptive> `var data = ${"content": begin & testing, "username": "Test"}`
14:28:06FromDiscord<Deceptive> Good?
14:28:09FromDiscord<enthus1ast> for jsony to work, you need a type any how
14:28:22FromDiscord<enthus1ast> it just converts from string to type
14:28:29FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and back
14:28:44FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and does not have a JsonNode representation
14:29:17FromDiscord<enthus1ast> this is what %\ would create
14:29:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> in std/json you would then convert this JsonNode tree to a type
14:30:48FromDiscord<enthus1ast> what is your goal, and why would you want to use jsony again? \:)
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14:52:45FromDiscord<fbpyr> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QI1
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15:18:18FromDiscord<fbpyr> if I leave the await and the check for the status out it compiles and even performs the request. ↵but how would I await / waitFor the response/promise and get the content?
15:22:39FromDiscord<qb> does `eraseScreen` from `terminal` for you guys work?
15:27:17FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yes it works for me, but i can imagine that it works better if the terminal is not in linemode
15:27:28FromDiscord<enthus1ast> (or how this mode is called again)
15:34:45NimEventerNew thread by Mardiyah: Declaration/definition array of array 2 elements in which's the 2nd is array, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8951
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16:01:08FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> I can't AND with 2 enum elements? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946798983739740180/unknown.png
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16:08:26FromDiscord<haxscramper> is this `enum class`?
16:11:32FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QIE
16:12:38FromDiscord<haxscramper> sorry, the code looked like C, so I got confused. No, in nim you can't `and` two enusm together, it is not safe because the resulting value is not guaranteed to be an anum
16:12:54FromDiscord<haxscramper> to use enums like sets use `set[TLN_OVERLAY]`
16:13:28FromDiscord<haxscramper> If you are interefacing with C API you can do `TLN_OVERLAY_APERTURE.cint or TLN_OVERLAY_SCANLINES.cint`, but this can't be converted back to enum
16:13:47FromDiscord<haxscramper> unless there is an enum that has `.cint` with necessary value
16:14:39FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QIF
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16:33:31FromDiscord<demotomohiro> If `TLN_Overlay` is a bit mask, you can change first parameter type to `set[TLN_Overlay]` and pass `{TLN_OVERLAY_SCANLINES, TLN-OVERLAY_APERTURE}`.
16:49:45NimEventerNew post on r/nim by Ruri: Segmentation Faults when calling Win32 API, see https://reddit.com/r/nim/comments/t18h1s/segmentation_faults_when_calling_win32_api/
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17:50:42FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJ5
18:02:21FromDiscord<bartimus> Good Morning/Afternoon everyone had a question regarding dynlib and passing ptr's to them. I am creating a shared channel, I am then passing the ptr of that channel to the dynlib function to write to, when checking the addresses of the channel in both places, they are the same, but the address in the dynlib function points to nil, instead of the underlying channel.
18:03:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Not having a procedure definition that stretches the entire screen is a good practice, make the parameter list vertical!
18:03:48FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJb
18:04:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Code?
18:05:44FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJe
18:06:23FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJf
18:07:06FromDiscord<bartimus> the create shared channel is just a generic wrapper i wrote that uses allocshared0
18:07:12FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Not having a procedure": Ah thanks
18:07:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `var ptr` is the issue
18:07:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> that's a `ptr ptr Channel`
18:08:58FromDiscord<bartimus> oh srry that was from debugging
18:11:10NimEventerNew thread by Ctclmsn: Nim wrapper for C library; data segment question, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8952
18:11:29FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJg
18:12:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sending the instruction that way is 100% unsafe
18:13:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But anyway `c[].send` is what you need to do
18:13:32FromDiscord<bartimus> yeah, let me update the function to the other way I had before I started going crazy with debug
18:14:24FromDiscord<bartimus> k i updated it, i did do the c[], but in that case everything runs but the channel never gets the msg, just loops
18:16:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Can we change it to a `Channel[int]` for now to make it less convoluted?
18:18:01FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJh
18:19:01FromDiscord<bartimus> @ElegantBeef yeah let me try
18:19:15FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Btw I have default parameters for initWindow(), but can I pass only one parameter? I want to change the 7th one
18:19:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim has named parameters
18:19:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> so you can do `initWindow(overlay = "Hello world")`
18:20:06FromDiscord<Waldecir Santos> I wish we had named varargs, run.....
18:20:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A pointless thing in a static language
18:20:31FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Aaah alright
18:20:59FromDiscord<Waldecir Santos> I'm just messing with you, I know.
18:22:11FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJi
18:22:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> again do `c[].send(1)`
18:24:23FromDiscord<bartimus> ok
18:24:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I might be wrong but i have the wacky belief that the copy is the issue
18:25:37FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJj
18:25:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Did you change it to an int in the main program?
18:25:54FromDiscord<Phil> >_> Turns out norm gives you back `"your_table_name"` and I did not account for the quotation marks.↵As for getting rid of them, is my choice `s.substr(1, s.len() - 2)` Or do we have something where I can go `s.substr(1, -1)` (doesn't have to be substr, I'll take any proc) ?
18:26:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `s[1..^2]` or `s.toOpenArray(1, s.len - 2)`
18:26:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> the latter is more efficient if you take `openArray[char]`
18:27:03FromDiscord<bartimus> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJl
18:28:14FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "the latter is more": It's something that happens once per HTTP request, so readability is more likely to be king here. s[1..^2] is definitely better, thanks for that!↵Just to bad we don't have the wrap-around indexing defined for negative indexing
18:28:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Uhhh no clue anymore bart, guess i should run it myself
18:28:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "wrap-around indexing defined for negative indexing" ?
18:28:54FromDiscord<Phil> s[1..-1]
18:29:20FromDiscord<Phil> Sorry, it's late and I had to write a spring service today
18:29:22FromDiscord<Phil> My brain is messed up
18:30:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well negative indexes wouldnt be defects then, which means more likely to have errors
18:30:12FromDiscord<Phil> My word choice is horrendous, errr I just meant something along the lines that I'd have loved for this notation to support negative indices at the end and interpret them as `s.len() - 1 - X`, So that I could do s[1..-1]
18:30:24FromDiscord<Phil> Fair point
18:30:40FromDiscord<Phil> Given that I harp on a lot about wanting my code to blow up in my face at compile time, I guess that's for the better overall
18:30:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can always write your own `[]` 😛
18:31:13FromDiscord<bartimus> @ElegantBeef yeah, I was at a loss too (i'm kinda new to nim, used it a little before v1). I'll try to read into dynlib and maybe i can track down whats going on.
18:31:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim is one of the few languages that a lot is implemented in user space
18:31:29FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You can always write": I wish I could express how much too lazy for that I am 😄
18:31:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Can i get the full code again bart, i'll also take a look
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18:32:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> And that laziness is a good thing, cause it discourages people from doing things wrong
18:32:55FromDiscord<bartimus> yeah pre changes?
18:33:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Post changes
18:33:23FromDiscord<bartimus> k
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18:33:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Distinct backwards index is capable of being statically checked!
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18:39:24FromDiscord<bartimus> @ElegantBeef https://github.com/bartimus-primed/shared_code
18:40:37FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Elegantbeef "And that laziness is": Typically that lazyness encourages me to write templates to do one very complex thing instead of doing 40 near identical medium complex things
18:40:52FromDiscord<Phil> And then remove the 10 near identical medium complex things I already wrote
18:54:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well the issue is https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/version-1-6/lib/system/channels_builtin.nim#L390 bart, one of the two types are wrong for whatever reason
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19:28:41FromDiscord<sOkam!> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJu
19:29:26FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJu" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJv"
19:52:12FromDiscord<bartimus> @ElegantBeef ahhh, I shall debug, i greatly appreciate your help
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20:13:21FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @sOkam! "What's the correct way": No idea on my end, at first glance I'd say the case statement in general requires newlines to break and can't handle semicolons well.↵Outside of that though, I am morbidly curious. What brought you to this question?
20:13:32FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "In reply to @sOkam! "What's the correct way": No idea on my end, at first glance I'd say the case statement in general requires newlines to break and can't handle semicolons well.↵Outside of that though, I am morbidly curious. What ... brought" added "usecase"
20:15:41FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Isofruit "No idea on my": oneliner at the top of the script, so i can do with vim shortcuts `r -> v` to change the nimscript to verbose, or `r -> w` to change to whatif↵and, at the same time, not have the thing eat up 7 lines of code, making the top of the script not visible on first glance when opening
20:16:03FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "whatif↵and," => "whatif. and,"
20:21:39NimEventerNew thread by BarrOff25: Bbqueue in Nim, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8953
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21:07:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @sOkam!\: why do you need a one liner?
21:09:16FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "<@186489007247589376>\: why do you": explained in prev comment. don't "need" it, just more comfortable
21:10:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> why not just use a define?
21:11:03FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "why not just use": not sure i get the syntax you mean
21:11:29FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJQ
21:11:31FromDiscord<sOkam!> kinda new, that was just the first thing i thought of doing. if there is a better way, i'm happy to change it
21:11:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Actually i take it back, what're you doing 😀
21:11:52FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "mean" => "mean↵kinda new, that was just the first thing i thought of doing. if there is a better way, i'm happy to change it"
21:12:15FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Actually i take it": me or ajusa?
21:12:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You
21:12:22FromDiscord<ajusa> you I think
21:12:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ajusa what is the `h2` template?
21:13:04FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946877481162539028/unknown.png
21:13:12FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "" => "Turning this into one line"
21:13:38FromDiscord<ajusa> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJS
21:15:28FromDiscord<ajusa> though I believe only the last two in this would be ran
21:16:08FromDiscord<ajusa> and if I define them outside of the buildHTML template code works just fine. I'm trying to build a DSL that doesn't pollute the global namespace by scoping it to a template
21:18:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> ok so you've ran into the issue off template overloading i think
21:18:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> overloaded template cause odd typing bugs
21:19:10FromDiscord<ajusa> ah nope I'm just dumb
21:19:30FromDiscord<ajusa> the outer template has an arg called inner, and the inner templates have an arg called inner
21:19:51FromDiscord<ajusa> so nesting them causes issues, pretty sure that's in the nim tips and tricks. just changed the outer one to call it "myInner" and issue is gone
21:20:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJT
21:20:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can of course replace it with `w` and `s` if you really want
21:20:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah good to hear, also nice RFC 🙂
21:20:52FromDiscord<SoicBR> In reply to @ynfle "What is it?": I have absolutely no clue but it (probably) didn't have anything to do with iterating through the table. I was on the verge of going insane so I just gave up and used a more inefficient solution
21:21:35FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "So sokam i was": i don't want opts. that's worse than having 6+lines at the start of the file
21:21:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Eh okay does Nim supports Pointer arithmetic? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946879674208907354/unknown.png
21:21:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No, but yes it does
21:22:04nrds<Prestige99> Lol
21:22:11nrds<Prestige99> I love that answer
21:22:22FromDiscord<auxym> you can cast/to from int, but maybe you shouldn't
21:22:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJU
21:22:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean it's done properly, pointers are distinct to pointer to collection
21:23:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well sokam i cannot suggest anything side from a if statement
21:23:33FromDiscord<Nick.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QJV
21:24:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `echo dogOwners[Dog(name: "Charlie")]`
21:24:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it's a table of Dog -\> string
21:24:45FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Doesn't really works https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946880419515731988/unknown.png
21:24:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> color isnt at ype
21:25:10FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "color isnt at ype": color is a pointer
21:25:14FromDiscord<Nick.> ok, I see it now @ElegantBeef. Thanks!
21:25:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sorry it's `cast[ptr UncheckedArray[T]](ptr)[index]`
21:25:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I messed up a tinge
21:25:28FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> and index is the color?
21:25:29FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Well sokam i cannot": does if support condensing into oneline better than case of?
21:25:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> index is the offset, ptr would be color
21:25:44FromDiscord<sOkam!> idm changing the syntax , as long as its 1line
21:25:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It should
21:27:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `var s = 'w'; if s == 'w':(echo "whatif") elif s == 'v':(echo "Verbose") else:(echo "silent")`
21:27:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Works fine
21:27:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Personally i'd make the return type of that procedure a pointer to a collection since that's what it is
21:28:02FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Like that? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946881247165165608/unknown.png
21:28:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Jesus you cannot read my messages 😀
21:28:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `cast[ptr UncheckedArray[Type]](color)[0]`
21:28:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> replace `Type` with the type the collection holds
21:28:52FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> ah alright
21:28:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> so uint8
21:29:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also consider making the return type of `tln_GetPalleteData` `ptr UncheckedArray[uint8]`
21:29:56FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Also consider making the": I'm interoperating with a C lib
21:30:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That doesnt change my statement
21:30:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `ptr UncheckedArray[uint]` is the same as `uint8_t` or w/e in C, the difference is Nim's type safety
21:31:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `ptr uint8` and `ptr UncheckedArray[uint8]` are different types in Nim one can use `[]` the other cannot
21:33:03FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`var s = 'w';": works, tyty 🙂
21:35:20FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`ptr UncheckedArray[uint]` is the": Ah alright, so I guess I can change it in the nim module that interops with the lib?
21:35:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep
21:38:34FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Oh nice https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946883897243885668/unknown.png
21:39:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> color is nil
21:41:25FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> weird
21:46:19FromDiscord<ATwenty0ne> Has anyone had success using punchthrough with netty?
21:46:54FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> In reply to @Elegantbeef "color is nil": It normally shouldn't https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946885997935874058/unknown.png
21:47:32nrds<Prestige99> What is uint8T?
21:47:47FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> unsigned 8-bits int
21:47:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> probably the c2nim'd alias to uint8
21:47:57nrds<Prestige99> ah
21:47:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim already has uint8 so you could just use that
21:50:13FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Ah well I understood
22:11:08FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> It works https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/946892094834880532/unknown.png
22:12:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Congrats
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22:36:00FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @enthus1ast "and does not have": Small correction, my `jsony` does not have its own `JsonNode` but uses `std/json` `JsonNode` and can read and write the std `JsonNode`s, just like `std/json` can.
22:37:35NimEventerNew post on r/nim by RoughCalligrapher906: NIM Ideas in automation, see https://reddit.com/r/nim/comments/t1gki0/nim_ideas_in_automation/
22:39:44FromDiscord<treeform> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QKh
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22:46:06FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @ajusa "full template looks like": I think its because you use `inner` twise, the inner inner gets replaced by the body
22:46:46FromDiscord<treeform> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3QKj this works
22:46:56FromDiscord<treeform> I had to use inner2 because otherwise it gets replaced
22:46:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea ajusa got it fixed
22:47:17FromDiscord<treeform> oh I see now
23:01:21FromDiscord<ajusa> yeah lol, it took me about 10 minutes to see that issue. thanks treeform for the inspiration though, I was directly looking at your video and code for this bit
23:14:13NimEventerNew question by itil memek cantik: Use of declaration and/or definition array of tuple, see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71272652/use-of-declaration-and-or-definition-array-of-tuple
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