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| 08:32:18 | fowl | i just installed gamera and its not compiling things |
| 08:32:29 | Araq | why not? |
| 08:33:13 | Araq | does it compile "koch" for you? |
| 08:33:29 | fowl | https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/01c221343108493b12a4 |
| 08:33:39 | fowl | i have to bootstrap? i thought it was ready to go |
| 08:34:00 | Araq | no you don't |
| 08:34:15 | Araq | I used "nimrod c koch" to check the resulting GCC still works |
| 08:34:21 | Araq | so that's why I ask |
| 08:34:38 | fowl | im missing math.h |
| 08:36:02 | Araq | so "nimrod c koch" doesn't work either? strange ... |
| 08:36:11 | fowl | havent tried it yet |
| 08:36:22 | fowl | i dont have git anything so its gonna take a minute |
| 08:49:50 | Araq | fowl: it's not that important, I'll fix it, for now you need to download the full distribution |
| 08:49:53 | Araq | bbl |
| 08:50:27 | fowl | ok i get the same error trying to build koch |
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| 09:46:02 | fowl | what the hell |
| 09:46:35 | fowl | i installed mingw32, i cant run build.bat under msys though, and i cant access gcc and all that from cmd.exe to run the bat from there. |
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| 11:34:30 | vegai | I just found out that variable names are case insensitive and underscores are ignored |
| 11:34:37 | vegai | is this a permanent feature? |
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| 11:58:35 | Araq | vegai: I think so ... ;-) |
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| 14:08:17 | reactormonk | vegai, you can't really remove that one from the language |
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| 14:18:09 | dom96 | hello |
| 14:18:27 | Trixar_za | Hey dom96 |
| 14:18:38 | dom96 | hey Trixar_za! How are you? |
| 14:19:17 | Trixar_za | Alright I guess. Just working on a game for this worst Visual Novel Challenge. How are you? |
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| 14:20:28 | dom96 | I'm pretty good. In the middle of exams currently, but have 2 weeks free until my next one. |
| 14:21:01 | Trixar_za | Difficult subject or one you can study the day before? |
| 14:22:00 | dom96 | well the thing is, the exams are sadly not spread out after the two weeks, so I have to study for all of them now. But meh, some nimrod coding can't hurt :P |
| 14:24:18 | Trixar_za | I used to always study the day before. I did do notes before though, but that took about 3 hours on one day to do. Then I just go through my notes quickly the day before the exam or even the morning of it :P |
| 14:24:48 | Trixar_za | Mind you, it only really worked with science because that's the only subject I'm naturally good at |
| 14:25:01 | Trixar_za | Well, the physics |
| 14:25:50 | dom96 | Annoying thing is that my Biology teacher decided that she would give us a mock exam in a week during our "study day". |
| 14:26:24 | Trixar_za | That's a dick move on her part |
| 14:26:52 | dom96 | yep |
| 14:49:40 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod 3b564c2 Araq [+0 ±2 -0]: added FAQ about 'proc' |
| 14:49:40 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod 5e03147 Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:Araq/Nimrod |
| 14:55:50 | dom96 | aww yeah, my subnetting works perfectly :) |
| 14:56:05 | dom96 | 29 users, that must be a record. |
| 14:56:42 | Araq | doesn't count, zahary is listed twice |
| 14:57:00 | dom96 | it does! |
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| 15:27:59 | dom96 | 30 now woo |
| 15:28:01 | dom96 | hello gradha |
| 15:28:09 | gradha | hello dom96 |
| 15:28:15 | gradha | now, how many are bots? |
| 15:28:58 | Trixar_za | Yeah, excluding doubles and bots, that's only 28 |
| 15:29:31 | gradha | I'm actually a bot too, just don't tell anybody |
| 15:30:52 | dom96 | Why would you exclude the poor NimBot :( |
| 15:32:30 | gradha | cobra 0.9.4 was released yesterday http://cobralang.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/cobra-0.html, would still be using that were not for the hideous mono runtime penalization |
| 15:32:58 | gradha | with cobra I could only dream to build a static binary less than 50kb |
| 15:34:09 | OrionPK | so guys.. what do u think about allowing includes of files w/ '.' in the filename |
| 15:35:07 | gradha | wouldn't that have conflicts with the dot sugar syntax for invoking procs? |
| 15:35:13 | OrionPK | e.g. if you have a file named somemodule.specific.nim, include somemodule.specific |
| 15:35:19 | OrionPK | idk |
| 15:35:35 | OrionPK | but currently you have to do include "somemodule.specific.nim" |
| 15:35:51 | OrionPK | I see these giant 2500 line long .nim modules |
| 15:35:59 | OrionPK | it's hard to get a feel for the flow of the program |
| 15:36:39 | OrionPK | breaking modules into dot files is preferable for me |
| 15:36:48 | dom96 | Probably more idiomatic to put it in a directory and then use: include "dir/module" |
| 15:37:26 | gradha | if you have a foo.bar module and then import that, if you have a naming collision and need to use the full module name it's going to be confusing |
| 15:37:51 | gradha | you would need to type foo.bar.symbol, but then what does each dot mean? |
| 15:37:54 | OrionPK | well, I'm more thinking about breaking apart a single module |
| 15:38:38 | gradha | you could always use the underscore instead of the dot as separator |
| 15:38:41 | Araq | which file has 2500 lines? (the compiler itself doesn't count) |
| 15:38:43 | OrionPK | true |
| 15:38:51 | dom96 | gradha: I like Cobra's samples, we should get something like that on the nimrod website. |
| 15:39:05 | Araq | gradha: I updated the website, news.xml should be there now |
| 15:39:24 | OrionPK | Araq: I was looking at Aporia's source |
| 15:39:59 | OrionPK | Aporia.nim is pretty large |
| 15:40:29 | gradha | Araq: don't you use something like rsync or lftp to upload automatically changes without manual intervention? |
| 15:41:52 | Araq | gradha: indeed I don't |
| 15:42:11 | Araq | updates are rare enough so that i don't bother |
| 15:42:25 | dom96 | hrm, I agree, aporia.nim is quite large. Perhaps I should split it up into module like: toolbar.nim, tabs.nim etc. and move all the related functions/GTK events there |
| 15:42:46 | Araq | oh yeah aporia is a beast :P |
| 15:42:49 | OrionPK | yeah, just breaking it down into smaller bitsized chunks would be a lot easier to read :) |
| 15:43:29 | OrionPK | have you tested it in windows 8 btw? |
| 15:43:49 | Araq | I ran it on windows 7 |
| 15:43:54 | dom96 | I haven't personally, I think someone else has though. |
| 15:44:01 | OrionPK | basically no part of the interface works for me |
| 15:44:17 | dom96 | compile in release mode with -d:release |
| 15:44:23 | OrionPK | k |
| 15:44:23 | dom96 | That's a known bug. |
| 15:44:40 | dom96 | And I have no idea why it occurs :P |
| 15:44:53 | OrionPK | ha, awesome ;) |
| 15:45:01 | Araq | I have some theories :P |
| 15:45:28 | OrionPK | ah yeah |
| 15:45:33 | OrionPK | works much better now :D |
| 15:45:46 | dom96 | yay, good. |
| 15:45:58 | gradha | clearly debug builds are for developers |
| 15:46:01 | dom96 | Araq: Mind sharing those? :P |
| 15:46:01 | Araq | since you're at it, can you recompile in debug mode but with --stackTraces:off? |
| 15:46:18 | OrionPK | sure |
| 15:46:26 | Araq | that should fix it too if my theory is correct |
| 15:48:08 | OrionPK | dont think that works |
| 15:48:22 | OrionPK | same issue as w/ debug mode |
| 15:48:44 | Araq | interesting |
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| 16:33:15 | NimBot | nimrod-code/nimbuild f6dd625 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: ircbot: Improved commit msg truncation. |
| 16:33:15 | NimBot | nimrod-code/nimbuild a77b146 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: ircbot: Better commit announcements. |
| 16:33:15 | NimBot | nimrod-code/nimbuild 00ebdd6 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: ircbot: Branch is now announced. |
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| 17:31:30 | Araq | fowl: I uploaded another gamera |
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| 17:31:45 | Araq | turned out I still had some other GCC in my path ... |
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| 18:53:06 | gradha | welcome cpeterso_ |
| 18:53:19 | cpeterso_ | gradha, hi |
| 18:53:46 | cpeterso_ | just lurkin' :) |
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| 19:31:56 | f0wl | Araq: new gamera works, thanks! |
| 19:32:49 | gradha | gamera digievolves into... |
| 19:34:22 | gradha | amazing, maybe I should use http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/RustTyranomon for my forum avatar |
| 19:34:46 | f0wl | lol digimon |
| 19:34:55 | f0wl | i used to have one of those |
| 19:35:02 | dom96 | Beyblade ftw |
| 19:43:16 | gradha | anybody here uses https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dash/id458034879 (Dash for macosx) ? |
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| 19:48:34 | gradha | now that flickr offers 1TB of storage maybe github/google code users should start distributing their software embedded with steganography in cat pictures |
| 19:49:06 | gradha | heh, actually the picture itself could be the instructions to de-steganographize the embedded file |
| 19:50:25 | f0wl | you can just RAR it up and stick it on the end of a jpg |
| 19:50:34 | f0wl | then to unrar you just rename the jpg to rar and unrar it |
| 19:55:12 | gradha | I wonder if flickr would react to that trimming rars |
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| 20:59:56 | gradha | dom96: can you make http://build.nimrod-code.org/docs/ redirect to documentation.html rather than the root index.html? |
| 21:00:37 | dom96 | will do |
| 21:01:27 | Araq | oh yeah |
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| 21:38:04 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod 22df4eb Araq [+0 ±2 -0]: preparations for version 0.9.4 |
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| 21:42:29 | f0wl | oh sure when gradha asks its done right away |
| 21:44:54 | dom96 | f0wl: hrm? |
| 21:45:33 | f0wl | i asked for that a long time ago >_+> |
| 21:45:34 | f0wl | >_>* |
| 21:46:39 | dom96 | well it's not like I implemented that already :P |
| 21:50:54 | Araq | f0wl: please report that generics bug that you found |
| 21:51:14 | f0wl | i will after i isolate it |
| 21:51:20 | f0wl | bout to install lubuntu on this new comp |
| 21:51:23 | Araq | it doesn't matter if you couldn't reduce it any further |
| 22:00:47 | f0wl | ok |
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| 23:53:44 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod 774227d Araq [+0 ±2 -0]: implements #397 |
| 23:53:44 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod fea53b2 Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: implements #448 |
| 23:53:44 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod 8180bbd Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: fixes #411 |