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| 03:46:56 | FromDiscord | <bostonboston> If a proc takes an int as a parameter, what size is that int, and does the size change if the proc is annotated with exportc? |
| 03:48:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `int` is `sizeof(pointer)` |
| 03:49:08 | FromDiscord | <bostonboston> I was under the impression, that at least for variables, ints default to int32 and are promoted to int64 if needed. Is that information outdated and or has it always been wrong? |
| 03:51:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Always `sizeof(pointer)` |
| 03:56:01 | FromDiscord | <bostonboston> 👍 |
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| 04:55:01 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> so im switching stuff over to uncheckedarray, and wondering, if it was ref instead of ptr, how would i create it |
| 04:55:14 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> like ptr you just cast alloc0 |
| 04:55:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `unsafeNew` |
| 04:56:10 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> ah |
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| 07:26:41 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> took me a min to realize that cast alloc with two levels of ptr ua doesn't init the inner layer because it's an array of pointers not just a fancy blob of memory all in one and that that was why i had a null ptr deref |
| 07:27:17 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> https://tenor.com/view/ah-eto-bleh-anime-bleh-gif-26784876 |
| 07:27:43 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> classic 3 am brain |
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| 08:28:35 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> used nimpretty today, it turned some if statements into syntactically invalid code |
| 08:28:36 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> oof |
| 08:29:21 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> it was just one statement in a 5.5kLOC project but still :| |
| 08:29:49 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I believe nph ensures the code parses after formatting |
| 08:29:53 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Though it's really opinionated |
| 08:30:07 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> I see |
| 08:30:32 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Just an alternative if you want something that might not explode in your face |
| 08:31:31 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> yeah thanks! |
| 08:31:47 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> personally the first thing I'd do when writing a formatter is ensuring the output is syntactically valid :P |
| 08:31:51 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> but that's just me .d |
| 08:31:53 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> (edit) ".d" => ":d" |
| 08:31:55 | FromDiscord | <nocturn9x> (edit) ":d" => ":D" |
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| 08:33:46 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> "PRs welcome" |
| 08:42:35 | FromDiscord | <intellij_gamer> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/23057↵Seems someone already did |
| 08:51:36 | FromDiscord | <jns> Hi, I would like to dump the underlying compiler command when compiling nim to cpp, so the actual CXX compiler call with all args. is that possible? |
| 08:58:30 | ehmry | jns: look in you nim cache dir for json files |
| 08:58:52 | ehmry | there should be descriptions of the build in there |
| 09:25:43 | FromDiscord | <k0ts> There's also `--listCmd` |
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| 14:16:06 | FromDiscord | <oluwafemifranchis> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/fTCXXaAv |
| 14:16:35 | FromDiscord | <_.heartlove._> <@&371760044473319454> |
| 14:20:17 | FromDiscord | <_.heartlove._> #science too |
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| 15:54:51 | FromDiscord | <aludayalu> I wanted to build a project that will take 5 years to maybe mature. Is Nim going to die before it? Probability wise yes or no? |
| 15:56:18 | FromDiscord | <aludayalu> <@&371760044473319454> we are actually starting today and we have been stuck between using Go, Zig and Nim. Zig does not have nice support for A LOT of things that we need. Go has a lot of performance overhead as you cannot disable things like nil checking on pointer dereferences which leaves us with Nim. |
| 15:56:21 | FromDiscord | <zumi.dxy> it's been around for a while so probably no↵expect some changes in the meantime :p |
| 15:56:46 | FromDiscord | <aludayalu> In reply to @aludayalu "<@&371760044473319454> we are actually": Are you really sure? Also how can I have preemptive green threads in Nim? |
| 16:03:16 | FromDiscord | <Phil> In reply to @aludayalu "<@&371760044473319454> we are actually": Please do not ping moderators for things that aren't related to moderating the discord server.↵As for your question, you're making a bet either way. Nim has been around since 2008 and I don't see a reason why it would stop being around within the next 5 years. I'd answer the same for the other languages though. |
| 16:04:42 | FromDiscord | <Phil> And I'm surprised to see neither C, nor C++, nor Rust in that list if zig is a possible choice, which is just as low-level. |
| 16:05:48 | FromDiscord | <Phil> God I wish nim's metaprogramming didn't spoil me so hard. |
| 16:06:03 | FromDiscord | <Phil> (edit) "hard." => "hard (unrelated tangent as I'm fighting in TS with some lib functionality)." |
| 16:18:06 | FromDiscord | <fabric.input_output> when ts don't have pattern matching |
| 16:48:38 | FromDiscord | <bubbly_avocado_86424> having looked briefly at Nim 1.x I'm now no longer able to hold myself and seek to explore Nim 2.x |
| 16:48:57 | FromDiscord | <bubbly_avocado_86424> (edit) "2.x" => "2.x↵could this be the 'perfect' language for me ?" |
| 16:54:20 | Amun-Ra | yes |
| 16:55:20 | FromDiscord | <bubbly_avocado_86424> as I'm often involved with risk analysis, i'm curious how this distributed repository model works out in terms of security and manageability of code quality |
| 16:59:58 | Amun-Ra | jail everything, she'll be right |
| 17:00:00 | Amun-Ra | ;) |
| 17:00:32 | FromDiscord | <bubbly_avocado_86424> In reply to @Amun-Ra "jail everything, she'll be": @Amun-Ra no thanks |
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| 17:02:10 | Amun-Ra | I'm a sysadmin, I write nim code for fun |
| 17:11:07 | FromDiscord | <grumblygibson> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=zvJIzOue |
| 17:12:44 | Amun-Ra | grumblygibson: what output do you expect? |
| 17:15:33 | FromDiscord | <grumblygibson> `ptr 0x56274ece0c60 --> 0` |
| 17:16:35 | Amun-Ra | hmm, I don't remember that behavior |
| 17:17:04 | FromDiscord | <grumblygibson> Maybe I don't recall the code that does it, but the was this beautiful concise way to get a printout of the type, the address, and the value.. hmm okay. |
| 17:25:44 | Amun-Ra | and I'm not known from having the best memory ;) |
| 17:28:59 | FromDiscord | <grumblygibson> 🤦♂️ turns out I probably had made a `repr` that returned what I wanted |
| 17:45:43 | FromDiscord | <aludayalu> In reply to @isofruit "Please do not ping": Sorry and thank you |
| 17:52:34 | FromDiscord | <grumblygibson> I just looked at the Nim Roadmap again, and got all super excited 😆↵Goal over winter (entering here): dip toe in Nim compiler contribution. |
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| 21:51:13 | FromDiscord | <guttural666> is async in Threads a thing or even possible in Nim? |
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| 23:44:24 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=dnXjcnHy |
| 23:47:14 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> maybe it's something dumb |
| 23:47:16 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> idk |
| 23:49:26 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Not related to why it's happening but `Slice[T]` as an alias to `HSlice[T, T]` |
| 23:50:48 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> yea |
| 23:51:05 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> oh it makes them the same |
| 23:51:09 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> ok yea ill switch to that |
| 23:51:55 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> same error but a little cleaner |
| 23:52:21 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> You also likely want `SomeInteger` and not `Ordinal` |
| 23:52:29 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> ah yea |
| 23:52:36 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> it looks like it doesn't like something about the slices, which makes sense since it was working with 4 uints |
| 23:53:41 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> someinteger instead seems to have fixed it |
| 23:54:10 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> SomeHoweger |
| 23:54:58 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `Ordinal` is `Ordinal[T]` oddly |
| 23:54:58 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I mean in `system.nim` it's `Ordinal[T] {.magic: Ordinal.}` |
| 23:54:59 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I'm suspicious of the magic 😄 |
| 23:55:04 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Now I do have to ask do you know that there is `packedset` in the stdlib? |
| 23:55:05 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> I imagine it's an issue with how Ordinal works internally, as such best to just use non magic typeclasses |
| 23:55:36 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I mean in `system.nim`": oh huh yea |
| 23:55:52 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Now I do have": no what does it do? |
| 23:56:02 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Makes a sparse bitset |
| 23:56:14 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> ah well i need a non-sparse bitset |
| 23:56:34 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> the use is to do piece fitting in an extended version of blokus |
| 23:57:03 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> shifting either rows or bits and ANDing or ORing to basically check the whole board at once |
| 23:57:18 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Also is there a reason you're making your own sequence with Array2D? |
| 23:57:32 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> `data: seq[T]` seems like a more reasonable approach 😄 |
| 23:58:03 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> i mean, i don't need it to change with data in it, but yea that would prob be fine |
| 23:58:50 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> In reply to @morganalyssa "ah well i need": i technically don't need everything at the ends of the rows after, but default will prob be 14x14 for only 2 wasted bits per row so i don't need something sparse |
| 23:59:33 | FromDiscord | <Elegantbeef> Could always do`set[0..256]` |
| 23:59:35 | FromDiscord | <morgan (ping with reply)> or typical size |