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00:36:28Varriountdyce_: There are Nim binaries for OpenWrt
00:36:30Varriount?
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04:36:09nameless912So async is totally fucked for me and I have no idea why
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06:32:51girvohey all
06:35:23girvoare there any good docs on unit-testing nim code?
06:35:39girvoI'm playing with the unittest module, and it's great, but I'm curious about mocking deps, etc.
06:49:31girvoAlso, weird q: can I run a nim c --run and supress the compiler output?
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07:10:54flyxgirvo: you can use -w:off and --hints:off
07:13:45flyxVarriount: yeah, parsing YAML sure is a pain, but I think in terms of serialization,, it is a far better format than both XML and JSON, and it is also superior for config files, although that isn't a use case it was originally designed for
07:15:54girvoflyx: perfect thank you
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11:59:11federico3why am I getting an "illegal capture" error when passing a mutable argument to an async?
12:00:46reactormonkfederico3, probably because the compiler can't prove you're not mutating the variable in the called thread
12:00:56federico3I am
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13:07:23Araqfederico3: the compiler must be able to transform the arguments to the heap
13:07:36Araqthink about it. a resumable function cannot keep anything on the stack.
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14:30:31r-kucan someone explain why i get "\n not allowed in character literal"? i mean it fits into char, is weird
14:30:58flyxr-ku: it doesn't on Windows
14:31:20flyxon Windows, it will generate "\x0D\x0A"
14:31:45flyxif you want just a line feed, use '\x0A'
14:32:08flyx(or \l)
14:32:11r-kuoh. i dont think any other programming lang does it
14:32:18r-kuor am i mistaken?
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14:38:24flyxin case of substitution for \n, I don't know of any other language.
14:42:21r-kui bet there gonna be plenty of confused people why \r\n does not produce what they expect
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14:52:16flyxthat's the case for everything in a new language which is done differently from your previous language
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15:02:19Arrrrthe new line char should be underlined in red
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15:04:49r-kuwell imho replacing ascii character meaning with different one is walking on the edge of blade. what could go wrong right?
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15:23:48Salewskir-ku: oh. i dont think any other programming lang does it # It is very similar for Ruby, see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2060253/how-to-do-a-newline-in-output
15:25:05r-kuyeah, actually python does something similar, but differently
15:25:17r-kuthere \n is just one char, but io functions substitute it for \r\n if needed
15:28:58SalewskiOK, it is not identical in Ruby, '\n' is indeed a string, but with no escape processing. But I think the problem is not nim, but the difference between OS where linefeed is one or two characters. I think Ruby converts "\n" to two characters for Windows.
15:29:05SalewskiBye...
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15:39:47mat4hi all
15:43:25Araqhi mat4
15:44:08Araqwould you mind if f (x) becomes different from f(x)? I noticed your code is full of f (x)
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15:46:50mat4no problem for me, only habit
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15:48:40mat4(and a quick search&replace operation)
15:48:59mat4jowever, I can't speak for other programmers
15:49:12mat4^j=h
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15:58:30def-to me it seems like a reasonable change
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16:02:03federico3toSeq("TODO".lines()) works and lines("TODO").toSeq() does not. Is this expected?
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16:04:26Araqfederico3: yeah but it's something that I really need to fix
16:04:37Araqwell actually
16:04:50Araqno that one is impossible to fix and so the manual mentions it
16:05:01AraqtoSeq gets an untyped param
16:05:20Araqwell hmmm perhaps
16:07:03federico3it would be useful to be able to treat iterators as sequences e.g. "foo".lines.toSet (set, not seq)
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16:22:55Araqfederico3: yeah that one is actually a real bug I think.
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16:37:09veganskAraq, please look at http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/2073 . It's about Nim usage at our organization, I'm trying to promote the language and all was ok (3 small projects in production) untill this problem appeared :-(
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16:45:33Arrrr:(
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17:00:36veganskBtw, it's not about the project described at forum, but there is another very very big legacy c++ application (~40MB sources size), written on vc++ 2003. And there is no chance to migrate it on another toolset. But Nim can use vc++ 2003. We have some unittests working with libraries from this project. And it' very cool.
17:01:46veganskSo I want to replace C++ without rewriting the application. What do you think about this idea?
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17:18:10Araqvegansk: I'm aware it's a crucial issue for you and I took a considerable amount of time to look at it and debug it
17:18:33Araqunfortunately not sucessful
17:18:56Araqhowever I think setupForeignThreadGC really SHOULD work with --tlsEmulation:on
17:19:20Araqwhich would be a viable workaround for you right?
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17:24:21veganskAraq, I think that setupForeignThreadGC can't work using emulation, but maybe I'm wrong? It uses TLS variable as initialization guard at least, so how can it work without initialized emulation? Chicken or the egg problem
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17:25:28veganskAraq, and thank you for participating!
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17:28:39federico3any Vim user? def- maybe? nim.vim needs some help
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17:46:32mat4federico3: I'm a former Vim user which now uses Joe regulary (because of various reasons)
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17:59:32vegansk<federico3>, migrated on emacs because of scala and ensime. But evil-mode user :-)
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18:05:56federico3mat4: are you using any Nim plugin for Joe?
18:07:53mat4I have written a syntax highlighting file for Joe. Despice from that, the editor feratures basic IDE functionality though its macro support
18:08:45mat4i is possible to run a debugger and the Nim compiler in different windows beside programming for example
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18:17:40mat4I use Joe mainly because of it Wordstar mode which includes block editing capability, reg expression support, tab space conversion and a lot more
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18:27:15mat4so, no plugin needed
18:28:23mat4(at least for me)
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18:31:20Araqvegansk: can you elaborate on why tls is not initialized properly?
18:31:34Araqalso: Did you try a different GCC version?
18:33:32wuehlmauszizc
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18:36:20wuehlmausoh sorry, don't expect meaning :)
18:47:38flyxif I pass a stmt into a template and in that template define a variable, is it possible to access that variable from within the content, which will be inserted after the var declaration by the template?
18:48:20ldleworkflyx: does .inject do that?
18:48:59flyxthe manual says the symbol is automatically injected when I pass it as expr, which I do
18:48:59flyxbut I don't seem to be able to access it anyway
18:49:50flyxah, the template must be immediate
18:50:22ldleworkflyx: there is no such thing as immediate templates
18:50:26ldleworkthey are deprecated
18:50:48flyxldlework: but it works when I add the immediate pragma to the template
18:50:58flyxso is there a way to do it without the pragma?
18:50:59ldleworkdeprecated != removed already
18:51:12ldleworkflyx: I thought that's what inject was for
18:51:18ldleworkvar x = 5 {.inject.}
18:51:22ldleworknow x is a name outside the template
18:52:40flyxdoesn't work for me without immediate
18:53:02ldleworkSorry no idea then
18:57:46flyxmy code: https://gist.github.com/flyx/93d1279c9704cf0fedea
18:59:23flyxthere's also an example in the manual that uses exactly this feature with the immediate pragma. if immediate is deprecated, it shouldn't be shown in the manual.
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19:06:42flyxit does not even work with {.dirty.}
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19:12:34dom96flyx: If the compiler doesn't warn you about {.immediate.} being deprecated then it is not deprecated
19:12:37dom96At least for now
19:12:51flyxit doesn't
19:13:11dom96Go ahead and use it then :)
19:15:19ldleworkdom96: when the author of the language makes sure to let you know they are on their way out every other time immediate macros are mentioned...
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19:16:14dom96ldlework: yes, but I have no idea what the alternative is. Until somebody suggests one flyx may as well use {.immediate.} templates.
19:16:56ldleworkdom96: good point, the strength with which Araq spoke made me just assume you guys figured out how to unify them somehow
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19:33:25Araqflyx: use 'untyped' instead of 'stmt'
19:33:41Araqand yeah, there is no need for .immediate once we cleaned it up a bit
19:34:04flyxAraq: thanks, that worked
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