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01:33:13ftsfis there a way to get unittests to run at compile time instead of runtime?
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05:40:04afrigginelfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62V4t1n5y8w
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07:32:10flyxftsf: nest them inside a `static:` block.
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07:33:19ftsfaww "cannot evaluate at compile time: checkpoints"
07:34:09flyxftsf: for a more traditional approach, you can also define in your config.nims that tests are executed automatically after compilation
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07:37:09ftsfhmm sounds interesting
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10:34:54FunanHello, I have a problem with Aporia IDE, after I have installed Aporia IDE, it showed in Arabic version (right-margin), how can I change it to English?
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10:44:21gokrAraq: Clicked around in the latest libui examples and ... darn, quite impressive. Did you make your wrapper using c2nim?
10:44:45gokr(I mean the latest version of libui itself and its examples)
10:44:49Araqsure, I patched c2nim slightly
10:44:57Araqdunno if I pushed that patch
10:45:25gokrIt appears as if libui is moving forward now during the summer, so just curious of work involved in keeping wrapper in sync
10:45:32FunanAraq, do you know about my question?
10:45:54gokrFunan: Did you see the URL I posted on off-topic?
10:46:01gokrMay use that for further googling.
10:46:05Araqno.
10:46:13gokrFunan: Here is more: http://www.gtkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11069
10:46:55Funangokr, the problem is not in the editor
10:48:06Funangokr, they just translated some little of Aporia IDE to Arabic, and they placed the menu on the right-margin
10:48:31Funanthe menu contains both Arabic and English, it is a mess.
10:49:44reactormonkFunan, so the menu should be left-bound, but the font right-bound?
10:51:40FunanThe editor is okay, but the menu is on the right while it is in English, but some Arabic words are also included, looks like they bring the IDE while the transtlation is not finished
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10:56:49Funandom96, You online?
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11:07:08FunanGuys if you know how can I change Aporia IDE from Arabic to English then please tell me, otherwise don't waste my time anymore.
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11:11:14reactormonkFunan, a) calm down b) try LANG=en_GB.utf8 aporia
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11:14:24Funanreactormonk, a) CMD says tha lang is not recognized as an internal or external command etc..
11:14:52reactormonkah, that one's linux only.
11:16:52AraqFunan: can you stop the spamming of our forum please?
11:18:02FunanAraq, wow, I am dealing with that problem about three hours, the problem that was created be a developer of Nim, now are you saying that I am spamming?
11:18:33Araqno I'm saying it's obvious you're our troll.
11:18:45reactormonkFunan, these are disconnected events.
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11:19:29FunanAraq, am gonna screenshot it for you, alright?
11:19:54Funanreactormonk, so where should I connect my event?
11:21:10reactormonkFunan, would you know how to set language per application in windows? The linux version is LANG=<...>
11:21:54Funanreactormonk, I tried the windows command, but the Aporia IDE will be still the mess
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13:28:54dom96Araq: Please don't mute the whole webchat!
13:29:57Araqit saved us some time
13:31:02dom96Instead do: /msg akick #nim add *!*@*ip.185.95.206.43 !T 20d
13:31:09dom96(I'll add this to the wiki)
13:31:21dom96* /msg cs akick #nim add *!*@*ip.185.95.206.43 !T 20d
13:31:24dom96er
13:31:31dom96*/msg chanserv akick #nim add *!*@*ip.185.95.206.43 !T 20d
13:31:32dom96:)
13:33:50reactormonkdom96, you can just //
13:33:55reactormonk/msg chanserv
13:34:07dom96reactormonk: I know
13:34:26dom96I missed the recipient and got it wrong the second time
13:34:33dom96because i'm used to writing /cs blah
13:34:46dom96but i'm not sure if that works in all clients
13:37:51endragorAny recommendations about good free IRC client for Mac? Any chance Nim begins to use Gitter as its main communication tool any time soon? IRC clients I know are just awful compared to Gitter
13:38:35AraqI use LimeChat but I don't really it
13:38:37dom96endragor: help us by writing a IRC<->Gitter bridge for NimBot
13:38:43Araq*really like it
13:38:53dom96endragor: I use XChat Azure, works fairly well.
13:39:30flyxendragor: Texual is nice
13:40:22flyx*Textual
13:41:18Flox42just found that on reddit
13:41:20Flox42https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/1eezw4/good_irc_clients/
13:41:42Flox42it also mentions OS X and linux
13:42:07Flox42btw, I use vector.im with their irc bridge. works nice.
13:51:22ftsfhmm is there a way to do a single iteration of an iterator?
13:51:33ftsflike next() in python
13:52:26Araqftsf: yes, check the manual for details
13:53:13ftsfAraq, i'm currently looking at that section in the manual. i'm having trouble understanding how to do that
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13:59:14Araqlet inst = it()
13:59:28Araqlet x = inst() # single step
13:59:40Araqif finished(inst): echo "don't look at x"
13:59:43ftsfahh, calling the iterator steps it?
13:59:59Araqyeah. and yes, I know it's totally weird
14:00:09ftsfahh, ok cool
14:00:18Araqbut it's lots of work to change now and comes up so rarely that I want to live with it
14:00:22ftsfthat was not very clear from reading the manual is all
14:00:27Araqit also makes some twisted sense
14:00:41ftsfi don't think it's bad, just needs some manual fixes I think
14:00:51AraqPRs welcome
14:01:15ftsf=)
14:04:28ftsfmanual is in the main nim repo?
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15:19:34yglukhovAraq: funny issue: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4518. What do you think? =)
15:20:39AraqNim is cool.
15:21:24Araqproc `<`(a, b: MyObj): bool {.error.}
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15:23:34Araqevery implicit conversion weakens the type system
15:23:45flyxwhy does `<` on ref objects even exist by default?
15:24:19yglukhovAraq: what if i want to compare to MyObjs?
15:24:23yglukhov* two
15:24:47Araqbecause an arbitrary order is often still good enough for binary trees containers and stuff
15:25:56yglukhovi think i could store MyObjs in a tree or smth...
15:29:15Araqflyx: fair enough, I guess we can remove < for refs
15:29:27AraqI mean deprecating it
15:29:45Araqit's easy enough to implement it on your own
15:30:00Araqand Nim prefers hash tables over RB trees
15:33:06yglukhovAraq: tbh i'm not sure if removing < will do any good in the long run.
15:34:39yglukhovi can do the same trick for == operator
15:35:03flyxit won't fix the „bug“ as it is no bug. but I think having `<` for ref types may be unneccessarily surprising
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15:37:36yglukhovflyx: i agree that `<` should probably be removed. also it can not work with JS backend.
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15:37:52yglukhovbut thats not my point really
15:37:53yglukhov=)
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16:42:59elroodAraq, might be interesting, considering you did not want to buy into the conspiracy theories on micro$oft in the past: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/steam-on-windows-10-will-get-progressively-worse-gears-of-war-developer-865457
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16:48:41kierI have two packages, both containing a module named "types". If I import one package's "types" module into the other package's "types" module, I get an error "redefinition of types". Is there a way around this that doesn't involve renaming the modules?
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16:59:07EddyHi
16:59:32Araqkier: sounds like you need to import "package/types"
17:00:04AraqEddy: so much for giving up on Nim, huh?
17:00:11EddyAraq, come on man, I swear by god I have the problem with Aporia IDE,
17:06:48kierAraq: still gives same error
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17:21:18Araq import "package/types" as othertypes
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18:21:20Araqelrood: "If Sweeney's allegations are true, it means that PC gaming as we know it, in its current form will cease to exist over time, giving Microsoft a monopoly in terms of digital distribution and commerce much like how Apple's App Store operates. This would mean flexibility and choice - two of the biggest reasons for gamers to flock to the PC as a gaming platform, as well user generated content or mods as they're known would have no place in Microsof
18:21:20Araqt's scheme of things."
18:21:50AraqI still don't buy it and writing Micro$oft is not convincing me either.
18:26:44flyxthere is still a quite well functioning Steam on my Mac despite Apple's App Store. this argument is not really convincing.
18:30:37elroodAraq, not trying to convince you of anything. you don't have to buy it. just keep an open eye and mind, and see what's happening and where things are headed
18:32:37TrustableHi all, I have a problem: Compilation error: httpcore.nim: undeclared field: 'key' https://gist.github.com/trustable-code/7cee88fe3e39ba4c51068b7ffac4c520
18:32:38Araqdoes that mean at some point the $ will turn into an S for you?
18:32:44Araq;-)
18:32:52elrood;)
18:33:17elroodit's been an S for quite a long time for me
18:35:17AraqTrustable: broken nim installation?
18:35:45TrustableAraq: I have tried it with latest stable version and devel version from some days ago
18:35:51Trustablesame result
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18:41:26AraqTrustable: consider it reported
18:41:38Araqworkaround: switch import order in main.nim
18:42:01Araqproblem: compiler caches generic tuple instantiations without really caring about tuple field names ... yummy
18:45:28TrustableAraq: alright, thank you :)
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18:58:39gokrRegarding the documentation thread on the forum - one idea I had lots of years back was to use the unit tests of the libraries as "indicators" for potential documentation updates. Since unit tests often are "black box" tests they rely on the external API of the library code they test so...
18:59:14gokr... any change to the tests (or the fact they broke) is an indicator that the docs for that part also needs updating.
18:59:52gokrThe idea being that internal changes to the library itself is typically NOT an indicator of needed doc changes.
19:00:12Araqgokr: Elm uses static typing to enforce semantic versioning
19:00:31Araqdefinitely something to look into.
19:00:52gokrYeah, getting some kind of versioning concepts into the language level is definitely interesting.
19:01:02gokrNot explored much historically.
19:01:18gokrWell, Smalltalk has some of it :)
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19:11:29gokrAraq: Have you been studying elm?
19:11:45Araqnot that much
19:17:56gokrWhen I have nim installed (on Linux) - what's the preferred incantation to install nimble?
19:19:13gokrMy travis job for Spry seems to flunk out at the nimble stage.
19:20:21gokrAh...
19:20:29gokrI think I see - I need to add "-y"
19:23:28gokrDiscovered "git cherry -v" - shows commits that will be pushed, neat.
19:39:45Araqgokr: use 'nim e install_nimble.nims'
19:39:59gokrI managed to solve it by just adding "-y"
19:40:35gokrBut is the above the official new way to do it?
19:41:00gokrBtw, the nimlz4 package seems to not fly with clang.
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19:46:49michael_campbellI think elm does something like that too, but I'm new to that as well so might be very wrong.
19:48:55gokrmichael_campbell: You mean the thing with the unit tests?
19:52:58michael_campbellsorry, no; language-level SemVer.
19:53:19michael_campbellAt least their package manager does something there with packages.
19:58:42gokrOh, that was what Araq said ;)
20:01:45michael_campbelldammit, I skimmed that. <D'oh!> Apologies, Araq.
20:01:53michael_campbellMy wife accuses me of skimming.
20:02:03michael_campbellI guess she's right; she generally is.
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20:23:20SentreenStupid question: Does nim have an equivalent to python's `enumerate` function (iterate over a sequence with index and element)
20:41:27def-Sentreen: pairs iterator, can be used with "for i, x in mySeq:"
20:41:52SentreenOh, I'm too used to python, I was looking for some magic function :)
20:41:54SentreenThanks!
20:42:36def-the magic is that the nim compiler automatically calls items() for "for x in mySeq" and pairs() for "for i, x in mySeq"
20:44:52SentreenThat makes sense, so nim iterators are overloaded based on the return type?
20:46:27def-not really, it's just an automatic expansion the compiler does as a special case
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20:48:26SentreenOkay, good to know, thanks again :)
21:05:07ephjaAraq: https://gist.github.com/ephja/879f0278e3bb785d837ed7fc61d7b0f3 that's the issue I had with var overloading
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21:05:56FannanHello
21:06:21Araqdon't you have a life?
21:06:24Fannandom96, do you got the soluction for me?
21:06:40FannanAraq, dude, I SWEAR the problem is real
21:07:23Araqit's obvious you have real problems. seek help.
21:09:10ephjawhat?
21:10:02Fannandom96, after I have installed Aporia IDE (0.4.0) with the Nim binaries (64-bit) for Windows, it looks like a Aporia IDE is in Arabic mode (menus are in the right-margin), some words are English and Arabic, I want to change it to English but I couldn't find the setting in the menu. So what should I do?
21:10:59Araqephja: seems indeed caused by your usage of generic type classes
21:11:23ephjado you know if this has been reported?
21:13:33ephjathis might have been the issue I was trying to locate in the issue tracker, but couldn't find anything similar that was still open IIRC
21:13:46Araqit's not been reported
21:13:54AraqI know every open issue :-)
21:14:01ephjaofc
21:14:20FannanAraq, I have reinstalled it several times.
21:15:39FannanAraq, I have also changed my region to USA by VPN while it was downloading, but still it didn't work.
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21:21:00FannanAraq, dom96, here is my evidence, https://postimg.org/image/ufa86bglt/
21:23:19FannanGuys, check out that screenshot, and please tell me how do I fix it.
21:25:31ephjano idea. any of the GTK people might now
21:25:59ephjaanyway, the nim plugin for vscode is pretty nice
21:26:40Fannanephja, thanks, but I can't live without Aporia IDE :)
21:30:47Fannanephja, I'd like to know why it is called IDE, it seems like a text editor, not an IDE.
21:32:47ephjadon't some features kind of make it an IDE? though there's much to be done, as is the case with several projects
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22:01:36rolhaif I have a method to create a collection of n random numbers, what's the best (in terms of performance) way to go around it?
22:01:47rolhafrom my understanding, seq are dynamic in terms of size
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22:02:05rolhaand arrays fixed, but I can't create something like:
22:02:33rolhaproc randoms(n: int) = let samples : array[0..n, float]; ...
22:02:43rolhado I have to use a seq?
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22:11:01Araqrolha: use a seq, yes
22:12:17rolhaAraq: thanks!
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22:48:23Zack_What I did???
22:48:27Zack_Why did you banned me?
22:48:29Zack_??????
22:48:34Zack_WHy????
22:48:50Zack_I was just trying to seek for help
22:49:14Zack_I need my lawyer right now!
22:49:34Zack_I just asked a question, I also had the evidence.
22:50:16Zack_Araq, do you have any explanation at all?
22:50:38Zack_Araq, do have problem with me?
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22:54:57EddyI want an explanation, Araq.
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22:56:30EddyGuys, Araq has just banned me in the community because I asked the community a question (in a nice and respective way).
22:57:16EddyHallow?
22:57:32EddyIs there anyone here?
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