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| 00:27:37 | Nobabs27 | can you call proc in a try from within an except statement? |
| 00:27:44 | Nobabs27 | call a* |
| 00:29:08 | ftsf_ | Nobabs27, what do you expect to happen? |
| 00:29:16 | ftsf_ | why are you using try? |
| 00:29:40 | Nobabs27 | to handle an exception |
| 00:29:53 | ftsf_ | you can't handle it without an except statement |
| 00:29:55 | Nobabs27 | I expect the proc to be called and work |
| 00:30:07 | Nobabs27 | ...I have an except statement... |
| 00:30:18 | ftsf_ | sorry... i misread your question =( |
| 00:30:28 | Nobabs27 | lol k |
| 00:30:33 | ftsf_ | i read within as without =) |
| 00:30:40 | ftsf_ | and sure you can |
| 00:30:51 | Nobabs27 | ...hm then im not sure what my issue is |
| 00:30:56 | ftsf_ | (pretty sure you can, i haven't tested it) |
| 00:30:59 | ftsf_ | will test now |
| 00:31:06 | ftsf_ | what's the issue? |
| 00:31:07 | Nobabs27 | it says I cant call it at that line, (acting as though the proc was never defined) |
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| 00:31:45 | PMunch | Araq, any thoughts on the macro? |
| 00:32:18 | PMunch | I know the % syntax is a bit ugly.. But I'm not sure what else to do |
| 00:32:35 | ftsf_ | Nobabs27, works for me. what's your code? |
| 00:33:01 | Araq | PMunch: nothing immediate comes to mind, but I'll come up with something better, no worries |
| 00:33:28 | Nobabs27 | sec |
| 00:33:48 | PMunch | Haha, got the equivalent for WxWidgets working now as well |
| 00:33:52 | Nobabs27 | except IndexError: evalargs(readLineFromStdin("args pls: ")) |
| 00:34:03 | PMunch | Basically the same syntax but with the WxWidgets names instead |
| 00:35:34 | Nobabs27 | http://pastebin.com/p88By2qm |
| 00:35:38 | Nobabs27 | there full paste |
| 00:37:03 | ftsf_ | Nobabs27, don't define the evalargs inside the try block |
| 00:37:23 | ftsf_ | put proc evalargs outside try, you can call it in the try |
| 00:37:54 | Nobabs27 | k lemme try that |
| 00:39:49 | Nobabs27 | kk works thanks, I probably should have thought of that |
| 00:39:53 | Nobabs27 | lol |
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| 01:06:59 | subsetpark | What's the cleanest way to get a random enum value? |
| 01:07:19 | subsetpark | Just make a list? |
| 01:09:37 | subsetpark | i mean, seq... |
| 01:13:10 | Araq | something like E(random(E.high.int+1)) |
| 01:13:27 | Araq | assuming the E is without holes and starts with 0 |
| 01:13:48 | Araq | which it does when you have no other annotations |
| 01:14:43 | subsetpark | ah, hm! interesting |
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| 02:20:52 | ftsf_ | could you make a proc that takes a generic enum type? |
| 02:21:01 | ftsf_ | I suspect it would require a template |
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| 04:30:50 | def-pri-pub | I've been working on the RandomArt applicaiton I made in Nim a while back. I'm brining it up to real-time: |
| 04:30:53 | def-pri-pub | https://twitter.com/DefPriPub/status/836070267562704897 |
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| 05:00:36 | ftsf_ | def-pri-pub, cool =) |
| 05:01:02 | ftsf_ | need to start porting some of my opengl stuff to nim |
| 05:02:03 | shashlick | just submitted #5444 for a Nim hang in nre |
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| 06:15:52 | libman | My lil archiver can submit Nim forum URLs to archive.IS just fine (ex. https://archive.is/vOB9K ) but archive.ORG gives "502 Bad Gateway" |
| 06:17:11 | libman | ex: http://web.archive.org/save/https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/671/9 - "Bummer. This url is not available on the live web or can not be archived." Although it is live. |
| 06:22:03 | libman | When I request that page via browser, I get 200 and all is well (according to Chromium dev tools), but `curl -I https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/671/9 `starts with "HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found" |
| 06:26:49 | libman | This seems to apply to everything under https://nim-lang.org/ |
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| 07:48:26 | shashlick | it might be looking at your user agent and ignoring stuff not from a traditional browser |
| 07:48:51 | shashlick | try curl with -A and your Chrome browser's user agent to see if it works |
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| 08:41:54 | libman | I hope that gets fixed, otherwise Nim will be unaccessible to different search engine spiders, etc. |
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| 08:58:42 | Araq | libman: I have no idea what the problem is |
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| 10:00:12 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> this may be of interest https://probablydance.com/2017/02/26/i-wrote-the-fastest-hashtable/ |
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| 10:19:36 | cheatfate | i so like people which called articles like "i made the fastest xxx" |
| 10:19:41 | cheatfate | (sarcasm) |
| 10:20:23 | cheatfate | i think every new hashtable algorithm compares itself to google and boost and do not compare with others "fastest hashtables"... |
| 10:22:36 | cheatfate | "Without reallocation my flat container is the fastest in all benchmarks for large types." i think this must be marked as bold, and placed in title |
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| 10:50:45 | Araq | I enjoyed the article fwiw |
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| 14:16:08 | yglukhov | Araq: hi, regarding [2/24/17, 10:55:59 AM] Yuriy Glukhov: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5241 . How should sameObjectTypes behave if a is generic instantiation and b is is the generic which a is instantiated from? |
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| 14:26:38 | jjido | It is a covariance question no? |
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| 14:40:15 | yglukhov | jjido: err.. not sure.. |
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| 15:04:26 | Araq | yglukhov: not the same objects then |
| 15:05:11 | Araq | because an uninstantiated generic object is not an object at all |
| 15:06:01 | jjido | Araq does nim have no type erasure? |
| 15:06:36 | Araq | only Java has type erasure |
| 15:07:04 | jjido | Ok |
| 15:07:22 | jjido | May be the wrong term |
| 15:08:09 | jjido | Is the full type always known? You say there can't be an instance of a non-instantiated type |
| 15:10:11 | yglukhov | Araq: ok, so it looks like i need to add another check for isInstanceOfGeneric(t, f) inside the isObjectSubtype loop? |
| 15:11:10 | yglukhov | and isInstanceOfGeneric should somehow account for partial instantiations.... |
| 15:11:33 | yglukhov | any hints? =) |
| 15:13:38 | Araq | what's a partial instantiation? |
| 15:15:24 | yglukhov | TMatrixNM*[M, N, T] = object; TMatrix2x2*[T] = TMatrixNM[range[0..1], range[0..1], T] |
| 15:16:11 | yglukhov | Araq: e.g. from tests/metatype/tmatrix1.nim |
| 15:17:20 | yglukhov | i kinda implemented a stupid version of isInstanceOfGeneric, which blindly accepts both cases from the tmatrix1.nim test =( |
| 15:17:32 | yglukhov | now it needs to be more picky |
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| 16:04:23 | zachcarter | dom96: for this guide I’m going to write about wrapping C libraries for nim, is there a desired format? Markdown? RST? |
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| 16:06:59 | FromGitter | <dom96> zachcarter: hrm, markdown should be nice. |
| 16:07:08 | zachcarter | okay will do |
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| 16:52:12 | zachcarter | dom96: start of the guide : https://gist.github.com/zacharycarter/b238e2e6502f99b4acdfdcd96aec3545 |
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| 17:10:27 | federico3 | zachcarter: you wight want to use the Nim wiki |
| 17:10:55 | zachcarter | federico3: for what exactly? |
| 17:11:13 | zachcarter | ah for posting the guide? |
| 17:11:15 | federico3 | yep |
| 17:11:26 | zachcarter | I’m going to leave that up to dom / Araq |
| 17:11:34 | zachcarter | I’m just going to write the guide in MD |
| 17:11:38 | zachcarter | and let them do with it what they wil |
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| 17:14:07 | dom96 | zachcarter: looks like a good start |
| 17:14:15 | zachcarter | cool :) |
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| 18:03:39 | demi- | ok, so using docker to run nim on CI was actually pretty easy |
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| 18:06:19 | zachcarter | nice :) |
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| 18:08:19 | FromGitter | <Varriount> "zachcarter's guide to wrapping arcane C libraries" |
| 18:08:26 | zachcarter | :P |
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| 18:23:59 | surge-protect | can C APIs be converted into Nim APIs? |
| 18:26:59 | cheatfate | surge-protect, could you please be more specific |
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| 18:31:46 | surge-protect | cheatfate: there are quite a few programs written in C that have C APIs. Eg. LXC/LXD |
| 18:33:22 | zachcarter | surge-protect : converting C to nim is quite a different task than binding to C from nim |
| 18:33:53 | zachcarter | I’m not really sure how to answer your question - you can either call C from Nim or call Nim from C |
| 18:34:15 | zachcarter | converting an API sounds like re-writing the C code as Nim |
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| 18:35:50 | surge-protect | how can I call a C API from Nim ? |
| 18:37:58 | Vladar | surge-protect: https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#foreign-function-interface |
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| 18:49:43 | zachcarter | I’m working on a guide for binding to C code surge-protect |
| 18:50:11 | surge-protect | zachcarter: that is awesome. I look forward to reading it |
| 18:51:34 | FromGitter | <Varriount> surge-protect: And there's also C2Nim https://github.com/nim-lang/c2nim |
| 18:51:46 | zachcarter | surge-projtect: https://gist.github.com/zacharycarter/846869eb3423e20af04dea226b65c18f |
| 18:51:54 | zachcarter | very heavily in flux but you can start reading |
| 18:52:59 | zachcarter | surge-protect* |
| 18:54:14 | zachcarter | by the time you get to where I start saying how to wrap soloud I may be done with that section |
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| 19:19:13 | surge-protect | dom96: how do I bind to another IP instead of localhost in jester? |
| 19:19:42 | dom96 | https://github.com/dom96/jester/blob/master/tests/alltest.nim#L8 |
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| 19:45:45 | surge-protect | dom96: I get a 502 error when running the compiled program from here: https://github.com/dom96/nim-in-action-code/tree/master/Chapter7/Tweeter |
| 19:46:20 | dom96 | what's the error? |
| 19:47:25 | surge-protect | dom96: https://www.zerobin.net/?0220a9c192ddd2e6#1RR2tCiA4q0ror9L7jXdkg1iHCGNdAqD//6yGgv+DG4= |
| 19:48:00 | dom96 | Did you run createDatabase? |
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| 19:49:03 | surge-protect | nim c createDatabase.nim ? yes, I have run that and have the executable of it |
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| 19:49:48 | dom96 | did you run the executable? |
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| 19:51:57 | surge-protect | I have now. interesting that it required 2 steps. is there a way to merge them into 1? |
| 19:52:41 | demi- | `--run` |
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| 20:09:14 | federico3 | I'm creating a channel that should be used by 2 threads only. It works when it's defined as a global variable but not when I use an object attribute. Any hint? |
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| 20:11:47 | dom96 | in what way is it not working? |
| 20:12:15 | federico3 | the two threads appear not to be using the chan - specifically, the reader is finding it empty |
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| 20:13:38 | Araq | channels are value based, you copy them around and stuff breaks |
| 20:16:18 | federico3 | what's the clean solution? a global table of channels where each writer-reader pair [hopefully] look up the right channel? |
| 20:17:44 | Araq | I use channels as globals. |
| 20:17:57 | Araq | much easier to reason about |
| 20:18:10 | Araq | you can also pass 'ptr Channel' around, but meh |
| 20:18:58 | Araq | I know many wrap the cannel in a ptr and use allocShared0 to create it. I don't see any advantages in doing so. |
| 20:19:37 | federico3 | Araq: by passing the ptr around instead of using a global I'm creating a new, dedicated, channel for each writer-reader pair |
| 20:20:24 | Araq | I usually have a fixed amount of threads, not a dynamic number of them. |
| 20:20:39 | federico3 | I see - thanks |
| 20:21:26 | Araq | otherwise 'spawn' is pretty effective too, no channels, just spawn a proc and get back a result. |
| 20:23:06 | Araq | but that is not popular, most people are spoiled by concurrency when all they need is parallelism |
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| 23:12:46 | zachcarter | If anyone has a windows or linux machine and would like to contribute to a guide I’m writing about wrapping libraries with nim, I could use some help (note I’d request you install and build a few libraries and then write up some instructions on doing so for me) |
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| 23:32:47 | federico3 | fastest way to count newlines in a largish file? memfile.lines is going to copy stuff around |
| 23:33:07 | federico3 | and memfiles don't seem to be accessible by index |
| 23:38:02 | Araq | readBuffer call and manual iteration over the buffer |
| 23:39:44 | ftsf_ | if speed is really important you could parallelise it |
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| 23:41:17 | ftsf_ | basically do equivalent to `parallel --pipe --block <blocksize> grep \n < bigfile` |
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