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00:05:30zacharycarter[m]yglukhov: ^
00:07:00zacharycarter[m]if they're both closures I mean
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04:55:46FromGitter<imdaveho> hi here, is the nim in action book from manning still relevant given that the language hasn't hit 1.0?
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05:09:18FromGitter<GULPF> A few things have changed since the book was published, but it's still relevant imo. Changes in the language that would break code in the book are generally avoided
05:17:33FromGitter<Quelklef> "Changes in the language that would break code in the book are generally avoided"
05:18:08FromGitter<Quelklef> Is this specifically in order to keep the book relevant, or is it just because the topics of the book are generally core to Nim?
05:20:03FromGitter<GULPF> In order to keep the book relevant. Most (maybe all) of the code in the book is included in the test suite without any changes
05:25:59FromGitter<Quelklef> huh
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07:26:44FromGitter<andreaferretti> @Quelklef please, go through
07:26:51FromGitter<andreaferretti> but not oldest to newest
07:26:57FromGitter<andreaferretti> I am already doing that :-)
07:27:15FromGitter<andreaferretti> and I am collecting examples which I can test automatically
07:27:41FromGitter<andreaferretti> this means I can check up to #2586
07:28:12FromGitter<andreaferretti> so if any of those gets fixed, I will know right away
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07:57:47FromGitter<Bennyelg> how do I run codeblock
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07:58:06FromGitter<Bennyelg> when it compile it runs it by default ?
08:09:35FromGitter<Bennyelg> I want to run specific file test and not a specific directory
08:09:38FromGitter<Bennyelg> is it possible ?
08:10:00FromGitter<Bennyelg> Did it, thanks.
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08:38:40FromGitter<mratsim> nim -v installed through choosenim doesn’t print the git hash anymore, is that intended?
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08:57:36livcdwow winim 2.0 looks very promising
09:05:57FromGitter<mratsim> btw thoughts on this Generics/Static syntax? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/8459
09:14:31FromGitter<data-man> @Araq: Today's my birthday. Please merge #8185 as a gift. :-)
09:19:31FromGitter<mratsim> Happy cake day @data-man
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09:21:54FromGitter<mratsim> so Option will be see more and more use in the stdlib?
09:22:30FromGitter<mratsim> I’m torn, I like type safety, but I’ve had a trauma with Rust “unwrap” hell.
09:22:47FromGitter<mratsim> and proc returning -1 are bleh
09:22:56FromGitter<data-man> @mratsim: Thanks! My cake is already in the stove. It's a small culinary experiment. :-D
09:23:39FromGitter<data-man> > and proc returning -1 are bleh ⏎ ⏎ I change it in the last commit.
09:24:30FromGitter<mratsim> Yeah I saw, but there are many procs that use the -1 special value, like “open” to open a file
09:24:42FromGitter<mratsim> not talking about your PR in particular
09:25:25FromGitter<mratsim> I really want a `match` pattern matching macro or compiler builtin.
09:25:26dave24I'm using an event loop from a GUI library, I would like to periodically check whether AsyncHttpClient has completed its request without blocking. Can I do that somehow?
09:26:32FromGitter<mratsim> @dave24, probably check the chapter 3 from dom96 book, it’s for an async chat app: https://github.com/dom96/nim-in-action-code/blob/master/Chapter3/ChatApp/src/client.nim
09:27:00FromGitter<mratsim> while true + if isReady it seems
09:27:17FromGitter<mratsim> ah sorry, isReady is for threadpool/multi processing
09:28:23FromGitter<mratsim> asyncCheck
09:31:02FromGitter<data-man> @mratsim ⏎ ⏎ > so Option will be see more and more use in the stdlib? ⏎ ⏎ IDK :-) Currently it's used in four modules (if I'm not mistaken) and is not used in the compiler. [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5b5ae656a31e386158b64d01]
09:31:25FromGitter<mratsim> well there was the “opt” experiment
09:32:04dave24mratsim: I can't find that function, what module is it in?
09:32:32FromGitter<mratsim> everything related to async should be in asyncdispatch currently (if you’re using devel)
09:32:49FromGitter<mratsim> but I’m not a networking/async guy (not yet at the very least)
09:37:06dave24I guess all I need is to check if the future has completed
09:37:15FromGitter<data-man> @dave24 asyncCheck in the asyncfutures.nim. Just import async. isReady in the threadpool.
09:41:49dave24I'm looking here: https://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html, should I be looking somewhere else?
09:42:14FromGitter<mratsim> https://nim-lang.org/docs/asyncdispatch.html
09:43:08FromGitter<mratsim> I get a 404 for asyncfutures, does that still exist on devel? https://nim-lang.org/docs/asyncfutures.html
09:43:25dom96dave24: Set a callback on your future: fut.addCallback(proc () = fut.read())
09:44:05dom96and call asyncdispatch.poll(timeout=x) in your UIs event loop
09:47:49dom96You can also periodically check `fut.finished`
09:48:03dom96But I wouldn't recommend it
09:49:47dave24dom96: I know it's a hack, but I'm out of options I think
09:50:01dave24I can't integrate the nim and other event systems
09:50:05dom96Why can't you use a callback?
09:50:15dave24how do you mean?
09:51:03dom96Why do you need to periodically poll the future?
09:51:17dave24because I can't block on a nim poll
09:51:25dave24because the UI would become unresponsive
09:51:39dom96What UI are you using?
09:51:42dave24IUP
09:51:54dom96Hrm, not familiar with it
09:52:07dom96But you can certainly call poll with a timeout of 50ms or so
09:52:11dom96or even less
09:52:21dom96it won't freeze your UI
09:52:29dave24hm, yea
09:53:00dave24and I would have to do that regularly, evey second or so. how quickly the http request succeeds does not matter much
09:53:33dave24Right, I'll try that thanks.
09:53:35dom96yes, IUP should allow you to either run something every few ms
09:53:47dom96or to control its event loop in the same way you are controlling asyncdispatch using `poll`
09:53:57dom96iup.poll(200) # ms
09:54:03dom96asyncdispatch.poll(30) # ms
09:54:08dom96Something like that should be possible
10:08:19dave24Can I destroy a future before it finishes?
10:08:29FromGitter<data-man> Good news for Windows users: Winim package is updated :-)
10:14:38dave24I guess closing the httpclient would work
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10:27:44FromGitter<Bennyelg> how to I run nim from different config ? ⏎ int: used config file '/Users/benny/Applications/Nim/config/nim.cfg' [Conf]
10:29:07FromGitter<Bennyelg> I want to run nim from different properties
10:29:12FromGitter<Bennyelg> with different nim path
10:29:17FromGitter<Bennyelg> seems to be a struggle there :/
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10:51:55FromGitter<data-man> @Bennyelg: There is ⏎ --skipCfg do not read the general configuration file ⏎ --skipUserCfg do not read the user's configuration file ⏎ --skipParentCfg do not read the parent dirs' configuration files ⏎ --skipProjCfg do not read the project's configuration file [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5b5af94b1be9bb57bcc925d3]
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11:35:49FromDiscord<PusiteGA> hi
11:36:01FromDiscord<PusiteGA> wanted to test websocket server
11:36:04FromDiscord<PusiteGA> but got this
11:36:06FromDiscord<PusiteGA> GameServer.nim(28, 7) Error: expression 'close(ws, 0, "")' is of type 'Future[system.void]' and has to be discarded
11:39:03dom96asyncCheck close(ws, 0, "")
11:39:26dom96(or `await` if you're inside an {.async.} proc)
11:42:22FromDiscord<PusiteGA> @dom whats this let (ws, error) = await(verifyWebsocketRequest(req, "myfencyprotocol")) myfancyprotocol?
11:42:30FromDiscord<PusiteGA> is that url or what?
11:42:55FromDiscord<PusiteGA> 0.0.0.0:8080/myfancyprotocol
11:43:02FromDiscord<PusiteGA> http://niv.github.io/websocket.nim/docs/0.3.0/websocket/server.html
11:43:27FromDiscord<PusiteGA> yep
11:43:36FromDiscord<PusiteGA> i just head to scrol down 😃
12:12:46zacharycarter[m]yglukhov: if you're around today - I have a question about jsBind if you don't mind
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12:20:35yglukhov[m]zachary carter: shoot
12:21:06zacharycarter[m]so with jsRef / jsUnref - I'm wondering if you can use the same closure for both element.addEventListener and element.removeEventListener
12:21:34zacharycarter[m]like you ref the closure before passing it to addeventlistener, unref it inside the closure body
12:21:40zacharycarter[m]but then what do you do when you pass it to removeeventlistenre?
12:21:58yglukhov[m]zachary carter: you're right. that would not work...
12:22:15zacharycarter[m]yeah - not sure how to overcome this one :/
12:22:42yglukhov[m]well there's always EM_ASM_* to help. it's the low-level super power =)
12:23:08yglukhov[m]as to how to wrap it in a nice and generic way - not sure either
12:23:35zacharycarter[m]hrm okay - I will play around with the EM_ASM stuff - thank you Yuri! :)
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13:00:06FromGitter<Yardanico> @yglukhov[m] - btw, as far as I understand https://github.com/yglukhov/android can't be used for native android UI?
13:06:38dom96zacharycarter[m]: Playground is down again
13:10:46zacharycarter[m]word - I'll fix it today
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13:16:06FromGitter<Bennyelg> Hey Im facing a strange problem which my code not compiled but without errors ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5b5b1b16ee7b230b446f97fe]
13:16:18FromGitter<Bennyelg> that's it Nothing more
13:16:49FromGitter<Yardanico> @Bennyelg that's an internal compiler error
13:16:59FromGitter<Bennyelg> :|
13:17:12FromGitter<Yardanico> try with `./koch temp c /path/to/your/tests.nim` in the folder with nim Git repo
13:17:24FromGitter<Yardanico> and you'll get compiler stacktrace maybe :)
13:18:34FromGitter<Bennyelg> checking
13:18:50FromGitter<Bennyelg> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5b5b1bba5301255724cccf37]
13:18:52FromGitter<Bennyelg> :|
13:19:47FromGitter<Yardanico> infinite recursion
13:19:52FromGitter<Bennyelg> yea
13:19:54FromGitter<Bennyelg> strange
13:19:55FromGitter<Yardanico> try to make the code as small as possible :)
13:20:01FromGitter<Yardanico> (to reproduce this crash)
13:20:40zacharycarter[m]pg should be back up
13:20:43zacharycarter[m]sorry about that
13:21:03dom96What was the issue?
13:21:22dom96Also, is there any way we can ensure this happens less? or that the downtime is reduced?
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13:38:13zacharycarter[m]kind of embarassing - CC the account was hooked up to on DO expired
13:38:36zacharycarter[m]dom96: ^
13:39:10zacharycarter[m]we can move it to the VM that the rest of the Nim website / forums run on
13:39:12zacharycarter[m]but federico had issues w/ that if I remember correctly due to docker and security
13:48:52dom96I can set up a separate droplet for it
13:49:32livcdDid not you guys get some droplets for free from DO ?
13:50:35dom96yep
13:51:19zacharycarter[m]dom96: that would be sweet - I can gather all the stuff together this weekend for the project and provide a step by step instruction set for deploying it
13:51:46zacharycarter[m]not too much to it - just setting up the systemd / nginx stuff etc
13:52:32FromGitter<Bennyelg> when I compile my project `runnableExamples` runs authomaticly?
13:53:11dom96zacharycarter[m]: I can set you up with a sudo-enabled account on that droplet
13:53:24zacharycarter[m]:thumbsup:
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14:35:21FromGitter<Quelklef> @andreaferretti Woah, how are you able to automate this?
14:36:22FromGitter<Quelklef> But sure, I can go through. Slowly. We need some way to check when we've met in the middle
14:39:08FromGitter<andreaferretti> @Quelklef I have a repo with various dirs - one for things that should compile, one for those that should not, one for those programs that should halt and so on
14:39:24FromGitter<andreaferretti> I have a script that checks all of this
14:39:41FromGitter<Quelklef> Ah, cool
14:39:44FromGitter<andreaferretti> and then I add cases manually, generally by copying an example from the issues
14:39:58FromGitter<Quelklef> What about "this output is wrong" bugs?
14:40:03FromGitter<andreaferretti> same
14:40:07FromGitter<andreaferretti> I have - say
14:40:16FromGitter<andreaferretti> txxx.nim
14:40:24FromGitter<andreaferretti> and txxx.txt for the expected output
14:40:40FromGitter<Quelklef> That's pretty cool
14:40:55FromGitter<andreaferretti> if some special options are needed, I use txxx.nim.cfg
14:41:19FromGitter<andreaferretti> I will open it as soon as I have a little time
14:41:47FromGitter<Quelklef> Also, I'll be going thru the `is:issue is:open -label:Feature -label:RFC -label:question -label:Cleanup -label:"Language Design" -label:Tools ` subset
14:42:15FromGitter<Quelklef> Which removes ~400 open issues to look at
14:45:38FromGitter<andreaferretti> sure
14:46:05FromGitter<andreaferretti> I skip some, but take a note when I do in a text file
14:46:17FromGitter<andreaferretti> so that I can go though these later
14:46:25FromGitter<Quelklef> Ah, that might be a good idea for the Tools
14:46:37FromGitter<Quelklef> But I suspect the other ones generally just won't be bugs
14:46:48FromGitter<Quelklef> Although I guess some may still be no longer relevant and so closable, hmm
14:46:49FromGitter<Bennyelg> @dom96 I kind of love httpbeast
14:47:02FromGitter<Quelklef> Maybe I'll look at all of 'em. How are we telling when we've met in the middle?
14:49:05FromGitter<andreaferretti> I am at 2652 right now
14:49:13FromGitter<andreaferretti> I will open my repo soon
14:49:21FromGitter<andreaferretti> so you should be able to see
14:50:18FromGitter<Quelklef> Cool, that works
14:52:21dom96Bennyelg: great :)
14:54:18FromGitter<Bennyelg> @dom96 there are any results from techpower benchmark ?
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14:59:41dom96Bennyelg: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=test&runid=2a8f2912-c4a2-4c32-a576-b1e2e932a906
15:02:48FromGitter<Bennyelg> Very impressive
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15:06:16FromGitter<mratsim> I try to filter for httpbeast but not found?
15:06:36dom96Switch to Json or plaintext
15:06:47FromGitter<mratsim> ah nice
15:07:25FromGitter<mratsim> more than nice, awesome
15:07:53FromGitter<mratsim> time for a blog post
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15:32:51zacharycarter[m]hrm - this event handler thing is going to be trickkyyyyy
15:34:12dom96What are you working on?
15:35:20dom96ooh, DigitalOcean changed their control panel
15:35:28zacharycarter[m]this thing - https://github.com/zacharycarter/zapp
15:35:49zacharycarter[m]yeah - it's very nice!
15:35:55zacharycarter[m]I'm using this library - https://github.com/yglukhov/jsbind - to call emscripten
15:36:19zacharycarter[m]but I'm facing a problem with closures and maintaining references to them while they're passed to addEventListener / removeEventListener
15:36:30zacharycarter[m]so they don't get GC'd
15:36:41aguspizahi all!m nim playground does not seem to work, is it known issue?
15:36:43dom96zacharycarter[m]: Are you East or West coast?
15:36:51zacharycarter[m]east coast
15:37:25zacharycarter[m]aguspiza: I'll ssh into the box and see what's going on
15:37:26dom96Okay, so NY it is
15:37:56zacharycarter[m]for what?
15:37:57zacharycarter[m]oh gotcha
15:38:00dom96for the droplet
15:39:10dom96zacharycarter[m]: huh, is that just Karax for webasm?
15:39:32zacharycarter[m]pretty much
15:40:04zacharycarter[m]but you have access to threads etc
15:40:07dom96hrm, okay. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to just port Karax to webasm? :)
15:40:28zacharycarter[m]it's this kernel crap again - I guess the box automatically updated docker? grrr - I'll install the right version and then hopefully things should be fine again
15:40:33zacharycarter[m]well - lots of changes are necessary
15:40:51zacharycarter[m]I'm not sure if there's interest in it anyway - it's more of an experiment at this point
15:41:05zacharycarter[m]if it works and others think it's valuable then sure - karax could be ported to wasm
15:41:09dom96why are docker updates breaking the playground?
15:41:44FromGitter<data-man> https://github.com/zeux/qgrep - Fast regular expression grep for source code with incremental index updates ⏎ I recommend to update lz4 and re2 sources. ⏎ Config for Nim repos: ⏎ ⏎ ```path "Your path to cloned repos" ⏎ ⏎ # Nim ⏎ include \.nim$ ⏎ exclude ^\.git/``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5b5b3d38b9a1803f2061b7e3]
15:42:27zacharycarter[m]when docker gets upgraded to a certain that the kernel doesn't support, it starts erroring out
15:42:46zacharycarter[m]the daemon just gets stuck in a starting state
15:44:21aguspizafor docker you should use at leat kernel 4.4
15:44:35dom96Maybe you could pin the docker version so that it never gets upgraded?
15:44:44aguspizakernel 3.13 and 3.16 do kernel panic! with docker
15:45:27dom96zacharycarter[m]: what's your preferred username?
15:45:50dom96also, PM me your ssh key
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15:53:01zacharycarter[m]zachcarter please
15:53:19zacharycarter[m]and I will PM it to you in just a moment
15:58:09dom96Ughhhhh
15:58:15dom96How is LastPass so annoyingly shit?
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16:09:57FromGitter<Quelklef> How so? I like it
16:18:10FromGitter<Yardanico> Use KeePass and your cloud storage of choice ;)
16:18:23FromGitter<Quelklef> Use github ;-)
16:18:30FromGitter<Yardanico> (there are multiple clients for it, like KeePassXC for win/mac/linux and keepass2android for android)
16:18:38FromGitter<Yardanico> and KeePassXC includes a browser extension too
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16:26:31dom96No thanks, KeePassX corrupted its own DB once and I lost all my passwords.
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17:27:42ehmrypass/password_store is the best, just bash/git/gnupg
17:28:09FromGitter<ephja> hmm, how to treat loop vars as static[T]🤔
17:28:40ehmryanything+pgp sounds like its going to suck, put pass works somehow
17:38:09FromGitter<Bennyelg> @dom96 is jester now work with httpbeast ?
17:38:32dom96yes
17:38:55FromGitter<Bennyelg> thanks!
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18:07:10cryptocat1094dom96: By being remote and defacto non-trustworthy.
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18:40:50ehmryI managed to get asyncnet on genode to cut through the POSIX layer and complete futures on the same call stack as the IP stack, the problem remains, if you throw out POSIX, you lose getaddrinfo and the resolve :(
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20:06:07Calinoufirst PR to Nim :) https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/8467 (is that the correct way to send documentation fixes?)
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20:42:18FromGitter<rayman22201> Good job @Calinou ! My first pr was similar
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23:12:28FromDiscord<treeform> Good job @Calinou we need more of you!
23:12:50FromGitter<kayabaNerve> If I wanted to find/post bounties involving Nim, but not Nim-Lang itself, is there a certain site that's best?
23:13:23FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Gitcoin? Reddit? Bountysource?
23:14:41FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Where do all the cool Nim devs hang?
23:19:59FromDiscord<treeform> I think they hangout on this IRC channel.
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