<< 27-07-2022 >>
00:15:53FromDiscord<ghoom> how do you do get methods in nim?
00:16:47FromDiscord<ghoom> sometimes command syntax doesn't work
00:16:56FromDiscord<ghoom> and it requires `()`
00:17:11FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "get" => "getter"
00:17:26FromDiscord<huantian> methods won't solve that problem
00:18:27FromDiscord<ghoom> im not saying specifically methods
00:18:32FromDiscord<ghoom> just getters in general
00:18:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `proc name(a: MyType): MyReturnType`
00:19:02FromDiscord<ghoom> ye sometimes `()` is necessary
00:19:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Never as a getter
00:19:27FromDiscord<Arathanis> Wrote a static lib in nim using `std/httpclient` and linked it with a c program and when I run it it segfaults when it calls `post`. Is HttpClient just not going to work for this?
00:19:40FromDiscord<ghoom> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Never as a getter": yuss
00:20:08FromDiscord<Arathanis> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Lp
00:20:12FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @Rika "treeform how usable is": Some one was able to make it work on a 3DS handheld system.
00:20:52FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @Rika "treeform how usable is": https://github.com/treeform/pixie/issues/189
00:51:42FromDiscord<Arathanis> Ok further weirdness. It segfaults when the URL is localhost or 127.0.0.1 but not if I use google.com
00:53:17FromDiscord<Arathanis> nvm it does seem to crash, but in subtly different way
00:53:18FromDiscord<Arathanis> fucking strange
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00:56:34FromDiscord<Arathanis> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Lx
00:57:59FromDiscord<Arathanis> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Lx" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Ly"
01:04:03FromDiscord<ghoom> In reply to @Arathanis "If anyone wants to": compiling example.nim gives me `invocation of external linker program failed. The system cannot find the file specified` too
01:04:29FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @ghoom "compiling example.nim gives me": https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1001631556147875880
01:05:18FromDiscord<ghoom> still doesnt work
01:05:50FromDiscord<ghoom> nvm
01:05:54FromDiscord<ghoom> i had to restart my terminal
01:06:02FromDiscord<ghoom> or rather, my shell
01:06:44FromDiscord<Arathanis> oh yeah, i always forget I have a custom function in my powershell profile called `Update-Path` that reloads the path
01:06:57FromDiscord<ghoom> no error occurs when i run a.exe
01:07:09FromDiscord<Arathanis> does it print all 3 lines?
01:07:12FromDiscord<Arathanis> or just "BEGIN"
01:07:16FromDiscord<ghoom> just begin lol
01:07:20FromDiscord<Arathanis> its totally crashing
01:07:23FromDiscord<Arathanis> add `-g` to the gcc command
01:07:30FromDiscord<Arathanis> then do `gdb ./a.exe` and run it
01:07:34FromDiscord<Arathanis> it will say it segfaulted
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01:08:05FromDiscord<ghoom> indeed it does
01:08:18FromDiscord<Arathanis> `client.get` seems to be fine only post seems to have issues
01:08:28FromDiscord<ghoom> imma experiment
01:08:34FromDiscord<Arathanis> good luck im still experimenting here
01:09:08FromDiscord<Arathanis> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LC
01:09:11FromDiscord<Arathanis> that doesnt seem to crash for me
01:09:14FromDiscord<Arathanis> let me verify real quick
01:09:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What's supposed to happen?
01:09:41FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @Elegantbeef "What's supposed to happen?": its supposed to not segfault 😎
01:09:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It doesnt here
01:10:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LD
01:10:09FromDiscord<ghoom> btw, arathanis, shouldn't you put `extern` before the forward dec of callPost in the c file?
01:10:33FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @Elegantbeef "It doesnt here": where is your 3rd print? it should echo the response status
01:10:46FromDiscord<Arathanis> also is that using post or using get?
01:11:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Was with what you gave originally
01:11:34FromDiscord<Arathanis> yeah pretty sure
01:11:44FromDiscord<Arathanis> yes https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001658109674135642/unknown.png
01:12:12FromDiscord<Arathanis> mine just says "BEGIN" and crashes
01:13:04FromDiscord<Arathanis> if I use `client.get` it does not print the status but it doesn't crash
01:13:15FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @ghoom "btw, arathanis, shouldn't you": ...maybe?
01:13:19FromDiscord<Arathanis> i added it and nothing seems to change
01:13:28FromDiscord<Arathanis> since its a static lib I think its ok its like providing a header file
01:13:36FromDiscord<ghoom> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LE
01:13:51FromDiscord<ghoom> da fuk
01:13:57FromDiscord<Arathanis> what in the
01:14:10FromDiscord<ghoom> XD
01:14:33FromDiscord<Arathanis> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001658819853697146/unknown.png
01:14:40FromDiscord<ghoom> yeah maybe we should fix that first lol
01:14:42FromDiscord<Arathanis> output: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001658859150131260/unknown.png
01:14:43FromDiscord<Arathanis> ?????????
01:14:47FromDiscord<Arathanis> where are my echos
01:14:48FromDiscord<ghoom> 🤦‍♂️
01:15:26FromDiscord<ghoom> let's fix it from nim first
01:15:36FromDiscord<ghoom> add `discard callPost()`
01:15:38FromDiscord<Arathanis> no crash reported either lmao https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001659089929113600/unknown.png
01:15:58FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "add `discard callPost()` ... " added "at the end"
01:17:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> use `http://google.ca`
01:18:09FromDiscord<Arathanis> works fine for me in nim
01:18:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LF
01:18:20FromDiscord<ghoom> @Arathanis the "win32" error has to do with the nim compiler options
01:18:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> for `https` you need `ssl` support
01:18:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> so you need ot pass `-d:ssl`
01:18:44FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @Elegantbeef "so you need ot": i did figure that one out, thank you
01:18:55FromDiscord<Arathanis> doesn't seem to fix the problem when calling from C though
01:18:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But you can pass `ssl` since it is dynamically linked
01:19:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The above works for me
01:19:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LG
01:19:40FromDiscord<Arathanis> caleld from nim or called from c?
01:19:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> From C
01:19:48FromDiscord<Arathanis> wild let me try
01:20:22FromDiscord<Arathanis> same compile command?
01:20:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep
01:20:41FromDiscord<Arathanis> are you using -d:ssl or no?
01:20:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No you cannot due to needing dlopen
01:21:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Unless you also statically link openssl
01:21:08FromDiscord<Arathanis> oh are you compiling it to a dll instead of a .lib?
01:21:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> and at that point just status-im's chronos
01:21:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No dynamic library
01:21:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I said "same command" of course
01:22:00FromDiscord<Arathanis> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001660694825017494/unknown.png
01:22:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `raises: []`
01:22:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I added that just to be complete 😄
01:22:52FromDiscord<Arathanis> that works, wtf? im not quite sure what you did differently
01:23:03FromDiscord<Arathanis> i mean i see what you did differently
01:23:06FromDiscord<Arathanis> but not why it helped at all
01:23:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> called `NimMain` and not use http 😄
01:23:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https i mean
01:23:44FromDiscord<Arathanis> gotcha
01:23:48FromDiscord<Arathanis> absolutely wild
01:23:51FromDiscord<Arathanis> appreciate it
01:23:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No clue if there are any top level variables in the httpclient but `NimMain` would init them and call any other top level code
01:24:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's an important thing you do once
01:24:35FromDiscord<Arathanis> so I probably want an `initLib` proc of some sort that does the NimMain thing?
01:24:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> After i did that i just put it in the try except to see the error 😄
01:24:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep with a `once` in it
01:25:03FromDiscord<Arathanis> man you are a wizard
01:25:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or equivalent logic
01:25:14FromDiscord<Arathanis> i really appreciate it
01:25:29FromDiscord<Arathanis> im trying to shill nim to my team at work, gotta get that adoption
01:25:32FromDiscord<Arathanis> 😉
01:25:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LH
01:26:15FromDiscord<Arathanis> is it in `block:` so multiple onces all run once?
01:26:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What?
01:27:02FromDiscord<Arathanis> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LI
01:27:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They each get their own bool
01:27:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/version-1-6/lib/system.nim#L3035-L3050
01:27:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's comically exactly what i said it was
01:27:50FromDiscord<Arathanis> ahhhh
01:27:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `global` is stored in global memory so it persists after a procedure call
01:28:04FromDiscord<Arathanis> oh its literally a template
01:28:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yep
01:28:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The beauty of good metaprogramming language features and user code is indistinguishable 😄
01:28:52FromDiscord<Arathanis> hot damn it worked
01:28:59FromDiscord<ghoom> how do receive a json object from a socket?
01:29:17FromDiscord<Arathanis> read it out as a string then use `parseJson`?
01:29:30FromDiscord<ghoom> but the recv procs require a size
01:29:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you use a `SocketStream` and `parseJsonFragments`
01:30:12FromDiscord<ghoom> could you pls gimme an example?
01:30:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/socketstreams.html↵https://nim-lang.org/docs/json.html#parseJsonFragments.i%2CStream%2Cstring
01:30:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Take peanut butter and mix with jelly
01:36:07FromDiscord<Prestige> Just got my pinephone pro, I may take a stab at writing a YouTube app in Nim for it
01:36:10FromDiscord<Prestige> Should be interesting
01:36:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nice, do the camera drivers work yet? 😄
01:37:23FromDiscord<Prestige> I heard they do, I'm updating the OS right now so I'll check if my camera app works after the update
01:44:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Which os are you using?
01:45:40FromDiscord<Prestige> alarm
01:46:22FromDiscord<Prestige> Seems like the default camera app just crashes
01:46:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> From what i hear megapixels is the goto app
01:46:59FromDiscord<Prestige> Yeah that's the default
01:47:10FromDiscord<Prestige> I'm trying out phosh atm but I'm not a fan of the layout
01:48:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I do really wish i used a phone so i could validate getting a pinephone 😄
01:50:45FromDiscord<Prestige> Never too late to start :P
02:01:13FromDiscord<ghoom> In reply to @Elegantbeef "you use a `SocketStream`": does `parseJsonFragments` on syntax error?
02:01:21FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "In reply to @Elegantbeef "you use a `SocketStream`": does `parseJsonFragments` ... on" added "raise"
02:01:32FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "In reply to @Elegantbeef "you use a `SocketStream`": does `parseJsonFragments` raise ... on" added "an exception"
02:01:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `{.raises: [ IOError, OSError, IOError, OSError, JsonParsingError, ValueError, Exception]`
02:02:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim's docgen pastes `raises` in the `{..}` which can be expanded
02:04:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45LQ
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02:27:01FromDiscord<Arathanis> Is there a way namespace an `exportc` proc when compiling with the cpp backend so its namespaced when used in cpp as a static lib?
02:32:53FromDiscord<Arathanis> Looks like you can do it by putting a namespace around the `extern "C"` block
02:33:05FromDiscord<Arathanis> still a risk of collisions but you could probably use silly naming conventions to get around that
02:43:16FromDiscord<ghoom> @ElegantBeef should i pass the server or the client to `newReadSocketStream`?
02:51:51FromDiscord<ghoom> also it doesn't work with async sockets
03:49:19FromDiscord<Girvo> Hi all!
03:49:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Uhoh it's girvo question time, everyone flee!
03:49:38FromDiscord<Girvo> Hahaha
03:49:45FromDiscord<# Luke> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Uhoh it's girvo question": What 💀
03:49:56FromDiscord<Girvo> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45M0
03:50:06FromDiscord<Girvo> Haha Luke I have a habit of asking some sort-of obscure questions at times
03:50:12FromDiscord<Arathanis> Ok, there has got to be a way to give C++ namespaces to exported functions when compiling with the cpp backend beyond header file hackery. I just don't know how...
03:50:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `ptr cuchar` is the "correct" or just a `ptr char` afaik
03:50:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> codegendecl or emit possibly?↵(@Arathanis)
03:50:33FromDiscord<Girvo> @ElegantBeef And it's fine despite the `const`?
03:50:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Generally yes
03:50:53FromDiscord<# Luke> In reply to @Girvo "Haha Luke I have": Ou
03:50:56FromDiscord<# Luke> (edit) "Ou" => "Oh"
03:51:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim doesnt have a way to emit `const T` so you'd need to use codegendecl if the compiler doesnt like it
03:51:10FromDiscord<Girvo> Hah apparently `cuchar` is deprecated now
03:51:13FromDiscord<flywind> In reply to @Girvo "<@145405730571288577> And it's fine": You can import the const string type if you have to => https://dev.to/ringabout/wrap-const-char-in-the-nim-language-53no
03:51:20FromDiscord<# Luke> In reply to @Girvo "<@145405730571288577> And it's fine": If it was zig, no, but it's Nim so yes
03:51:22FromDiscord<Girvo> @ElegantBeef Yeah thats basically what I was getting at
03:51:32FromDiscord<Girvo> Though not too hard to emit `const` if it _really_ needs it
03:51:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or just import it like flywind did
03:51:45FromDiscord<Girvo> It shouldn't, this is literally just a binding to a crc16/crc_modbus impl
03:51:54FromDiscord<Girvo> Oh yeah, true
03:52:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Girvo doesnt use zig they have their eyes set on easier to write system not equally complex 😄
03:53:07FromDiscord<# Luke> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Girvo doesnt use zig": Oh lol
03:53:20FromDiscord<Arathanis> In reply to @Elegantbeef "codegendecl or emit possibly?": I've thought of emit, let me look at codegendecl
03:54:47FromDiscord<Girvo> Haha I play with Zig! I'm excited for where it might go, but for the embedded work I'm doing Nim's "its just C eventually" is too hard to beat 😉
03:55:01FromDiscord<Girvo> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45M1
03:55:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No
03:55:29FromDiscord<Girvo> Oh thank god
03:55:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `cast[ptr cuchar](str[0])`
03:55:52FromDiscord<Girvo> Knew I was missing something, cheers
03:56:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `addr str` took the address of the `str` variable
03:56:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So it was stack allocated
03:56:15FromDiscord<Girvo> Yeah whoops
03:56:20FromDiscord<Girvo> I need another coffee
03:56:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or a rubber version of me to scream at
03:56:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Please just scream at it
03:59:07FromDiscord<Arathanis> not sure codegenDecl is going to work because of what it puts around it
03:59:36FromDiscord<ghoom> how do i get the ip address of a client?
04:00:31FromDiscord<Girvo> Oh great, this crc16 library gives a different value for modbus than the other libraries lol
04:00:32FromDiscord<Girvo> Weeee
04:01:22FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`cast[ptr cuchar](str[0])`": arent you still missing the "addr" part
04:01:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
04:01:38FromDiscord<Rika> lol
04:01:44FromDiscord<Girvo> hahaha
04:01:49FromDiscord<Girvo> That might be why then
04:01:50FromDiscord<Girvo> One second
04:01:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I was thinking `cast[ptr cuchar](str)`
04:04:09FromDiscord<Girvo> Yay I now have correct CRC16 for Modbus calculation
04:04:26FromDiscord<Girvo> Now to eventually translate that to Nim instead of binding libcrc, but eh thats for next week lol
04:04:29FromDiscord<Girvo> Cheers 🙂
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04:22:29FromDiscord<ghoom> is there an std alternative to `setTimeout` or `setInterval` in nim?
05:31:09NimEventerNew thread by Leeooox: Can I get this kind of type automatically build by template or macro?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9329
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06:41:31FromDiscord<neon_> Is there an updated guide for tables in nim?
06:42:21FromDiscord<neon_> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/bgN
06:42:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Code?
06:44:12FromDiscord<neon_> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45N0
06:44:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> and `var bot = ...`?
06:45:47FromDiscord<neon_> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45N5
06:46:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Full error please
06:46:28FromDiscord<Rika> It is likely an import export error
06:46:35FromDiscord<Rika> Are these in the same module
06:46:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Their type isnt exported
06:49:35FromDiscord<neon_> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Ns
06:49:40FromDiscord<neon_> i think its because its colliding with libsodium
06:49:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well there's your problem
06:50:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `import libsodium except hash` if you dont need it's hash
06:50:21FromDiscord<neon_> sorry haha i havent slept for a while now thanks!
06:50:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Error messages do generally give the information to solve the issue 😄
06:51:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> To explain that error a bit it's on the `[]=` generic instantiation
06:51:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Inside `[]=` it calls `hash` and to make it extensible it uses the current scope to find that `hash`
06:52:28FromDiscord<neon_> fixed it now, will be more careful reading through next time
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08:01:33FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45NF
08:02:24FromDiscord<Rika> is that surprising?
08:04:31FromDiscord<huantian> That code is quite readable
08:04:49FromDiscord<aMOPel> In reply to @huantian "That code is quite": extremely
08:05:37FromDiscord<aMOPel> making slow but steady progress on the nim treesitter parser
08:05:48FromDiscord<Rika> thats nice
08:06:47FromDiscord<aMOPel> does anybody know how the fidget successor by treeform is coming along, or if it will happen?
08:17:35FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> how's Nim doing for data science? I'm currently doing a big data course at work, and the speed of Python is making me want to eject braincells onto a wall
08:18:24FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Asbjørn F "how's Nim doing for": ~~you probably won’t have the brain cells to eject by the end of it~~
08:20:02FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> was there a nim awesome page on github or something?
08:20:17FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> I just wanna replicate some of this in Nim and see the diff
08:20:43FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> found it
08:20:49FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> https://github.com/VPashkov/awesome-nim
08:22:04FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> nvm no data science on that list
08:24:00FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> I guess this maybe? https://github.com/bluenote10/NimData
08:24:11FromDiscord<aMOPel> https://github.com/SciNim
08:24:46FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> ah, cool
08:27:14FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> much thanks
08:50:21FromDiscord<lantos> @Asbjørn F only thing is before you run into it is to think about (if you are running in prod)↵- Can you rewrite the part of your python script to be more effective -> if yes push computation to numpy else nim = good choice↵- Do you need single binaries -> if yes nim = good choice
08:51:54FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "@Asbjørn F only thing is before you run into it is to think about (if you are running in prod)↵- Can you rewrite the part of your python script to be more effective -> if yes push computation to numpy else nim = good choice↵- Do you need single binaries -> if yes nim = good choice" => "sent a long message, see http://ix.io/45NL"
09:00:23FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45NO
09:02:24FromDiscord<Olfactory Hallucinations> Does anyone know what's up with the playground? I'm getting a gateway timeout error.
09:02:44FromDiscord<lantos> its probably crashes @PMunch
09:02:49FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "crashes" => "crashed"
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09:06:16FromDiscord<PMunch> I tried to reboot it
09:08:09FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> In reply to @lantos "<@956094950884392980> things to think": I see. Thanks for the consideration
09:08:10FromDiscord<lantos> Thanks PM
09:08:27FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "PM" => "@PMunch"
09:09:03FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @aMOPel "<@259277943275126785> do you know": Package level types in the experimental manual
09:09:08FromDiscord<PMunch> It seems to be back up, but who knows for how long..
09:09:30FromDiscord<lantos> is it a simple error or something that will take a while to redo
09:09:35FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "redo" => "sort out"
09:09:48FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @aMOPel "<@259277943275126785> do you know": https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual_experimental.html#package-level-objects here you go
09:11:32FromDiscord<lantos> @PMunch ↵↵have you seen this. It actually is pretty good. If you have the inputs and results from play.nim-lang.org ↵It could be cool to be able to search through the data https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1001778858518925312/unknown.png
09:11:46FromDiscord<aMOPel> In reply to @Rika "https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual_experimental.html#": thank you 🙂
09:14:36NimEventerNew Nimble package! shellopt - Command line argument parser in the form commonly used in ordinary shell., see https://github.com/uga-rosa/shellopt.nim
09:14:43FromDiscord<PMunch> Well I get them, but I don't store them
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09:20:30FromDiscord<vindaar> @Asbjørn F\: also hop over to the #science channel if you have specific questions!
09:32:06FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> cool, thanks
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10:32:40FromDiscord<dom96> In reply to @PMunch "It seems to be": any ideas why it's crashing?
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11:14:40NimEventerNew thread by Drkameleon: How to check whether parseFloat leads to missing precision, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9330
11:53:26FromDiscord<PMunch> Same as always, it's so low on resources that it's constantly teetering on the brink of a crash
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12:01:21FromDiscord<flywind> What is this error?
12:01:32FromDiscord<flywind> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45OO
12:04:25FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> There's an end of file where it shouldn't be I guess?
12:04:37FromDiscord<Asbjørn F> or lack of terminator?
12:11:53FromDiscord<flywind> Found it. `nimble test` probably just blocks because `flatty` already exists, but no user input provided to it. Plus there is a timeout for that so it raises EOF exception. It is weird that when using refc, it works.
12:11:55FromDiscord<Rika> That means your terminal ended standard in for whatever reason
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12:14:01FromDiscord<flywind> In reply to @flywind "Found it. `nimble test`": I guess CI is quite fragile because of the global package system and `nimble test` doesn't enforce "forced yes"
12:14:25FromDiscord<flywind> (edit) "In reply to @flywind "Found it. `nimble test`": I guess ... CI" added "the Nim"
12:14:32FromDiscord<flywind> (edit) "In reply to @flywind "Found it. `nimble test`": I guess the Nim ... CI" added "package"
12:15:42FromDiscord<flywind> Good news is that the devel nimble gives a warning about overwriting existing packages.
12:15:45FromDiscord<Rika> There is a setting for enforced yes
12:17:45FromDiscord<flywind> Yeah, the Nim important packages CI doesn't seem to use `nimble test -y" though.
12:17:49FromDiscord<flywind> (edit) "-y" though." => "-y"."
12:20:22FromDiscord<flywind> +> `proc pkg(name: string; cmd = "nimble test"; url = "", useHead = true, allowFailure = false)`
12:41:51FromDiscord<flywind> Well, it turns out refc and orc booting nimble have different behaviours ...
12:57:48FromDiscord<lantos> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45P1
12:57:59FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45P1" => "https://paste.rs/Z1p"
12:59:47FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45P4" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45P3"
12:59:52FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45P3" => "https://paste.rs/nJ3"
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13:47:12FromDiscord<dom96> In reply to @PMunch "Same as always, it's": we should be able to replace it with a better VPS if you're up for configuring it
13:56:12FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Pf
13:57:10FromDiscord<Rika> If expression
13:57:32FromDiscord<Rika> Wait
13:57:37FromDiscord<Rika> Let me read that again later
13:57:58FromDiscord<Rika> Better yet, someone else answers you before I get home
14:16:19FromDiscord<mirandaniel> Is there any made with Nim badge?
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16:02:57FromDiscord<Prestige> I'm not sure what that means
16:03:29FromDiscord<Prestige> In reply to @PMunch "Same as always, it's": If not upgrading the vps, maybe you could implement a job queue? If it's doing these things in parallel
16:09:52FromDiscord<Arathanis> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Q0
16:17:11FromDiscord<Rika> its probably command prompt except you dont get builtins, maybe
16:17:13FromDiscord<Rika> i dont know
16:17:36FromDiscord<Arathanis> just exposes the nim toolchain maybe?
16:17:43FromDiscord<Arathanis> a shame since cmd sucks :P
16:17:56FromDiscord<Arathanis> oh well I can just manually launch powershell I guess, I just thought it was odd
16:22:29FromDiscord<lantos> Is there a way in nims std to get capture groups in regex?
16:23:40FromDiscord<Rika> https://nim-lang.org/docs/re.html#find%2Cstring%2CRegex%2CopenArray%5Bstring%5D%2Cint↵?
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16:25:43FromDiscord<lantos> doesn't return multiple capture groups↵text = "one:10 three:3 two:2"↵test = re"(\w+):(\d+)
16:26:16FromDiscord<lantos> (edit) "doesn't return multiple capture groups↵text = "one:10 three:3 two:2"↵test = re"(\w+):(\d+)" => "sent a long message, see http://ix.io/45Q2"
16:29:17FromDiscord<ghoom> anybody gets compiler errors unrelated to the actual error?
16:29:53FromDiscord<ghoom> i got an error telling to discard an expression, it meant to discard other ones
16:29:59FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "i got an error telling ... to" added "me"
16:30:06FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "i got an error telling me to discard an expression, ... itactually" added "but" | "butit ... meant" added "actually"
16:30:13FromDiscord<ghoom> like wtf
16:33:30FromDiscord<Prestige> Can you get a min repro?
16:35:27FromDiscord<Rika> you get the matches here, but it is another story if you want to match many in the same line https://nim-lang.org/docs/re.html#match%2Cstring%2CRegex%2CopenArray%5Bstring%5D%2Cint
16:35:45FromDiscord<Rika> you can use nre maybe but i am unfamiliar
16:39:22FromDiscord<lantos> giving nim-regex a shot
16:40:40FromDiscord<Rika> that has a nicer api
16:40:50FromDiscord<ghoom> In reply to @Avahe "Can you get a": man dat would take me ages
16:40:55FromDiscord<Rika> you have the limitation that its more actually-regular than PCRE
16:41:05FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "In reply to @Avahe "Can you get a": man dat would take me ages ... " added "😭"
16:41:07FromDiscord<Rika> so back references is not allowed i think
16:41:25FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @ghoom "man dat would take": how else would we know the actual issue?
16:41:37FromDiscord<ghoom> ah forget it
16:52:37FromDiscord<ghoom> is there a way to make enum items ints?
16:52:46FromDiscord<ghoom> like in c
16:53:03FromDiscord<ghoom> so i can do `case` on ints using enums
16:53:08FromDiscord<Rika> what
16:53:14FromDiscord<Rika> `ord(enumval)`
16:53:27FromDiscord<Rika> you can just case an enum as usual though
16:53:33FromDiscord<Rika> i dont understand why you need this for case
16:53:57FromDiscord<ghoom> to not write `ord(...)` for each case
16:54:26FromDiscord<Rika> but again you dont need to use ord
16:54:27FromDiscord<Rika> what
16:54:37FromDiscord<ghoom> i'll give you en example
16:54:42FromDiscord<Rika> you can convert an int to an enum really easily
16:54:49FromDiscord<Rika> `EnumType(intval)`
16:54:58FromDiscord<ghoom> but if the int falls outside the enum's range?
16:55:03FromDiscord<ghoom> (edit) "but ... if" added "what"
16:55:03FromDiscord<Rika> then is it really valid
16:55:41FromDiscord<mr_noia> you can use a try/except that handles RangeDefect↵(@ghoom)
16:55:48FromDiscord<Rika> dont
16:55:59FromDiscord<Rika> its a defect, there will be a "kind" of nim where that will break
16:56:15FromDiscord<Rika> defects shouldnt be caught as long as they continue to exist in nim
16:56:49FromDiscord<ghoom> i'll just use ord then
16:57:12FromDiscord<mr_noia> huum, I didn't know that↵(@Rika)
16:57:48FromDiscord<Rika> theres a switch in the compiler that will cause defects to be uncatchable so
17:26:20FromDiscord<flywind> Can I exclude forks from GitHub search?
17:26:56FromDiscord<flywind> I would like to search all Nim libraries using shallowCopy but not forks: https://cs.github.com/?scopeName=All+repos&scope=&q=shallowCopy+language%3Anim
17:28:52FromDiscord<jan0809> heyo, do you guys think that could still work (2019)↵https://github.com/jyapayne/nim-libnx
17:29:06FromDiscord<Generic> In reply to @jan0809 "heyo, do you guys": no it's broken
17:29:15FromDiscord<Generic> I have a new wrapper which works, but haven't published it yet
17:29:29FromDiscord<jan0809> awesome
17:29:34FromDiscord<jan0809> imma wait then
17:31:07FromDiscord<flywind> In reply to @flywind "I would like to": Btw shallowCopy has already been removed for ARC/ORC, so these libraries need to change shallowCopy to move or sink plus assignment or a deepcopy assignment. Otherwise it won't work with Nim v2 by default. Feel free to hunt them according to "v2: Migrations to ORC" (https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/20017)
17:31:22FromDiscord<Gabben> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Qp
17:39:53FromDiscord<Rika> `copyMem result[0].unsafeAddr, source[0].unsafeAddr, source.len sizeof(result[0])`
17:41:10FromDiscord<flywind> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Qu
17:55:36FromDiscord<PMunch> In reply to @Avahe "If not upgrading the": The problem is that Docker leaves trash around. That's why rebooting usually fixes things. A touch more RAM and disk is really all it needs
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18:10:53FromDiscord<jan0809> thats why one uses seperate build stages
18:33:06FromDiscord<aMOPel> In reply to @Rika "Let me read that": you know what it is?
18:33:26FromDiscord<Rika> i fucking forgot okay wait ill look now
18:34:39FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Rika "`copyMem result[0].unsafeAddr, source[0].unsafeAddr": me realising `sizeof(type(result))` works for arrays of course, but i'd say its better to be safe ig
18:39:50FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QN
18:41:20FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QO
18:41:29FromDiscord<Rika> its the only thing i could think of since its limited to statements
18:41:55FromDiscord<aMOPel> cool, thanks 🙂 I already have more questions if you don't mine
18:42:00FromDiscord<Rika> ok
18:42:00FromDiscord<aMOPel> (edit) "mine" => "mind"
18:42:19FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QP
18:43:00FromDiscord<Rika> ?
18:43:01FromDiscord<Rika> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QQ
18:43:09FromDiscord<Rika> does that work
18:43:35FromDiscord<Rika> kinda fucked that i have this seared into my brain ngl
18:45:21FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QR
18:45:39FromDiscord<aMOPel> In reply to @Rika "kinda fucked that i": pretty impressive to be honest
18:45:43FromDiscord<Rika> eh
18:45:51FromDiscord<Rika> theres a lot i still dont remember well enoughj
18:45:52FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) "enoughj" => "enough"
18:50:03FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45QS
18:52:40FromDiscord<aMOPel> @Rika btw, as I work through the grammar spec I am compiling a list of bugs and other issues with it, planning to make a gh issue when I'm done. You think the maintainers care about the grammar spec correctness?
18:53:36FromDiscord<Rika> some do i believe
18:53:55FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @aMOPel "alright, this one I": i dont in this case lol
18:54:03FromDiscord<Rika> prolly macro related again
18:54:24FromDiscord<Rika> you can have else after a macro w/o having a do beforehand, something similar to the bare colon (but not related)
18:54:28FromDiscord<Rika> i dont know the details
18:58:00FromDiscord<aMOPel> That already helps 👍 That's all I have for now. Thank you 🙂
19:03:49FromDiscord<d4rckh> how can i get the client's ip address using asynchttpserver
19:09:28FromDiscord<Prestige> In reply to @PMunch "The problem is that": Can you disable whatever those docker options are maybe?
19:14:13FromDiscord<d4rckh> In reply to @d4rckh "how can i get": request.hostname seems to work
19:14:28FromDiscord<Quibono> I'm trying to run a nim file which calls a nim file in a folder (on the same level as it) and it's getting an error that it can't open the file. I'm on MacOS Monterey if that helps
19:21:14FromDiscord<hotdog> In reply to @Quibono "I'm trying to run": How does it call the file?
19:22:27FromDiscord<Quibono> import file_name where file_name is the name of the folder
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19:51:56FromDiscord<aMOPel> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45R7
19:52:12FromDiscord<Rika> You can’t object like that
19:52:23FromDiscord<Rika> Anonymous objects don’t exist
19:52:53FromDiscord<Rika> Might exist in the future but probably only within 2.0, though not a guarantee
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20:27:22FromDiscord<Quibono> In reply to @Quibono "import file_name where file_name": Is this the wrong syntax?
20:29:50FromDiscord<Prestige> `import foo` or `import foo/bar`
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21:20:53FromDiscord<PMunch> In reply to @Avahe "Can you disable whatever": Nope, I googled at great length at some point. Only to find other people with similar issues and essentially answers from Docker that this is a wontfix bug
21:22:20FromDiscord<Prestige> Well, that sucks..
21:22:59FromDiscord<Prestige> I wonder if podman would be better
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21:38:17FromDiscord<exelotl> I kinda wish anonymous enums existed sometimes
21:38:45FromDiscord<Prestige> Why's that?
21:40:12FromDiscord<exelotl> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Rv
21:40:38FromDiscord<exelotl> there is nothing else in the game that takes an `AstronomerMode` as a parameter, or has it as a field
21:41:17FromDiscord<exelotl> or something
21:41:18FromDiscord<exelotl> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Rw
21:41:50FromDiscord<Prestige> I think your first code block is just more readable to be honest
21:42:07FromDiscord<Prestige> If you ever had to add more states or use this somewhere else, it would be a lot smoother
21:42:12FromDiscord<!Patitotective> maybe inline enums would be better
21:43:12FromDiscord<exelotl> how would that be like?
21:45:01FromDiscord<!Patitotective> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Rx
21:45:13FromDiscord<!Patitotective> shorter but still clear
21:45:36FromDiscord<Prestige> I don't see the point, really
21:46:30FromDiscord<!Patitotective> the point is adding more syntax
21:48:33FromDiscord<Phytolizer> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45Ry
21:48:59FromDiscord<Phytolizer> for example, would turning the argument into a `var seq[Operation]` elide the copy?
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21:52:11FromDiscord<exelotl> I believe turning into a `sink seq[Operation]` might help?
21:52:14FromDiscord<demotomohiro> If the argument to `program` is never read after calling that proc, it would be moved
21:52:32FromDiscord<Phytolizer> In reply to @demotomohiro "If the argument to": yeah, in practice `program` is always a temporary being passed in
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21:52:47FromDiscord<Phytolizer> i'll use `sink`, forgot about that kw
21:53:40FromDiscord<Phytolizer> well it works, not sure how to tell if i avoided a copy though
21:53:55FromDiscord<Prestige> https://nim-lang.org/docs/destructors.html
21:54:14FromDiscord<Prestige> (edit) "https://nim-lang.org/docs/destructors.html" => "https://nim-lang.org/docs/destructors.html#lifetimeminustracking-hooks-nimeqsink-hook"
21:57:13FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Use `--expandArc:PROCNAME` option.
22:00:16FromDiscord<Prestige> sink and lent are great
22:02:29FromDiscord<!Patitotective> is there a short for `requires "downit >= 0.1.0 & < 0.2.0"`?
22:03:15FromDiscord<Phytolizer> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45RD
22:04:39FromDiscord<Phytolizer> if this fails i will implement `=sink` but that wil require writing a whole type just to check this
22:05:05FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Maybe you need to add -f to recompile without using cache
22:05:32FromDiscord<Phytolizer> same result (i.e. no extra output)
22:07:53FromDiscord<Prestige> In reply to @Phytolizer "if this fails i": sink param should work
22:08:21FromDiscord<Phytolizer> ok ig i'll just trust it is working then cause i got no errors when adding `sink` to the parameter. thanks guys
22:16:30FromDiscord<#!/bin/luke> Patio, why does GitHub actions build for windows on ubuntu?
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23:07:12FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @flywind "Found it. `nimble test`": Do you have a small repro case? I can fix it.
23:12:51FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> is there a cross-platform way (maybe already in Nim and I haven't seen it yet) for checking how much free space is left on a filesystem?
23:14:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont imagine there is
23:18:43FromDiscord<voidwalker> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=45RL
23:19:21FromDiscord<voidwalker> Any way I could make this tvs-> sqlite import faster ? It takes about 3 minutes, vs a few seconds using the sqlite .import
23:19:32FromDiscord<voidwalker> (edit) "tvs->" => "tsv->"
23:21:49FromDiscord<voidwalker> Hm, "just" 46 seconds, I forgot to put danger instead of debug
23:23:18FromDiscord<Prestige> how about -d:release?
23:27:01FromDiscord<voidwalker> 43 seconds without that case statement, just direct bind..
23:27:08FromDiscord<voidwalker> (edit) "bind.." => "bind string"
23:28:51FromDiscord<voidwalker> still ~43 seconds with -d:release
23:33:55FromDiscord<jan0809> how much data were talking about
23:36:26FromDiscord<voidwalker> 800MB
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23:47:34FromDiscord<jonnuh> https://tenor.com/view/twomenkissing-twoblackmenkissing-kissing-kiss-gaykiss-gif-22635642
23:50:23FromDiscord<!Patitotective> is it worth using asynchronous mysql or a thread is just fine?
23:50:48FromDiscord<b1rdf00d> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/45RP
23:51:19FromDiscord<Prestige> In reply to @Patitotective "is it worth using": I would probably just use async, why do you want to use a thread?
23:51:39FromDiscord<voidwalker> oh you can do it asynchronously hmm
23:51:45FromDiscord<voidwalker> wait, this is sqlite
23:52:22FromDiscord<dom96> use sqlite
23:52:26FromDiscord<!Patitotective> well, for it to be async i think ill have to use https://github.com/bung87/amysql↵and if it had any issue or something missing that i needed i would have to use std/db_mysql in a thread (?)
23:52:39FromDiscord<dom96> I bet you mysql is overkill for your use case
23:53:54FromDiscord<voidwalker> Only I am using sqlite and from what I know, it's what I need for a 2-3GB db with only 1 user
23:54:07FromDiscord<Prestige> In reply to @b1rdf00d "I'm working through ray": That's really interesting, I'd like to know why as well...
23:55:00FromDiscord<voidwalker> raw .import command from sqlite cli takes about ~12.5 seconds, so almost 4x slower in nim. There has to be something to speed it up
23:57:07FromDiscord<Prestige> Also @b1rdf00d your `echo fmt("Scan lines remaining {j}")` should probably be `imHeight - j`
23:57:33FromDiscord<!Patitotective> In reply to @dom96 "I bet you mysql": may i ask why? im new to db world↵the db is meant to be used by a django app as well