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| 07:37:26 | Araq | how did collections/baseutils ever made it into the stdlib? |
| 07:37:30 | Araq | and who uses it? |
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| 07:42:39 | Araq | ah, LockFreeHash ... |
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| 17:48:36 | dom96 | hi |
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| 17:50:45 | jjap | In macros.nim, there's this line: ## .. include:: ../doc/astspec.txt What's happening here? |
| 17:51:31 | dom96 | It's including that file for its documentation. |
| 17:51:39 | reactormonk | Anyone using debian? |
| 17:52:14 | dom96 | reactormonk: is this in regards to #1504? |
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| 17:52:32 | jjap | I noticed that doc2 fails, complaining that macros.nim couldn't find this plain text file of documentation. Turns out the Mac binary tar.gz only includes html files in the doc folder, and not exactly the same ones either |
| 17:53:59 | dom96 | hm, we need a Release Steps wiki article I think |
| 17:54:21 | dom96 | To ensure that whoever is making these archives everything that is needed. |
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| 17:54:25 | EXetoC | isn't doc recommended? |
| 17:54:36 | dom96 | *includes everything |
| 17:54:38 | EXetoC | I think it worked better for me |
| 17:54:41 | dom96 | EXetoC: nope |
| 17:54:56 | dom96 | doc is obsolete |
| 17:55:33 | jjap | I was playing with gradhas gh_pages thing which generates docs for your project. I noticed it fail, complaining that macros.nim couldn't fine ../docs/ast([something].txt |
| 17:56:48 | jjap | The fix was simple (copy all the .txt from github to my nimrod/docs folder), but it seems strange that a text file with documentation would be able to cause macros to crash |
| 17:57:27 | dom96 | Does the compiler crash when it's missing? |
| 17:57:44 | jjap | dom96: Will try |
| 17:57:44 | dom96 | I suppose it would be nice if it simply continued |
| 17:58:01 | dom96 | Sounds like an easy thing to add. |
| 17:58:26 | dom96 | jjap: Create an issue please, and if you feel like it have a go at trying to fix it :) |
| 17:59:05 | jjap | No prob |
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| 18:06:14 | reactormonk | dom96, yup |
| 18:06:37 | dom96 | reactormonk: I replied |
| 18:07:33 | jjap | dom96: when you say "does the compiler crash when it's missing", you mean doing nimrod -c whatever? No. I haven't seen it crash yet |
| 18:08:02 | dom96 | jjap: no, I mean when you run nimrod doc2 macros.nim. Do you get a stack trace or just an error? |
| 18:10:07 | jjap | Error: unhandled exception: lib/core/macros.nim(15, 33) Error: cannot open '../doc/astspec.txt' [ERecoverableError] |
| 18:10:29 | dom96 | interesting |
| 18:10:38 | dom96 | I think that doesn't count as a crash though. |
| 18:10:54 | dom96 | Still, would be nice if it was a warning I think. |
| 18:11:07 | dom96 | But we should see what Araq thinks. |
| 18:11:53 | jjap | Hmm I remember a stacktrace with the gh_pages tool |
| 18:13:31 | jjap | yes.. Here we are: |
| 18:13:57 | jjap | $ ~/.babel/bin/gh_nimrod_doc_pages -c . Generating docs for target 'master' lib/core/macros.nim(15, 33) Error: cannot open '../doc/astspec.txt' lib/pure/future.nim(18, 11) Error: undeclared identifier: 'newNimNode' |
| 18:14:24 | jjap | ... lib/pure/future.nim(25, 5) Error: internal error: cannot generate code for: nnkPar No stack traceback available Error running /usr/local/bin/nimrod doc2 --verbosity:0 --index:on --out:src/iterutils.html src/iterutils.nim on 'src/iterutils.nim', compiler aborted. |
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| 18:19:42 | jjap | Created issue: https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/issues/1505 |
| 18:23:05 | dom96 | great, thanks. |
| 18:23:45 | dom96 | I can run doc2 on the future module fine. |
| 18:23:51 | dom96 | Are you using the latest compiler? |
| 18:26:40 | jjap | 0.9.4 |
| 18:27:06 | jjap | I think future.nim is there because macros.nim fails |
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| 18:37:40 | Mat3 | hello |
| 18:52:20 | dom96 | hi |
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| 19:00:22 | dom96 | hello enquora |
| 19:00:43 | enquora | hello |
| 19:02:08 | Mat3 | hello dom96 and enquora |
| 19:02:30 | enquora | Is this the Waltons? |
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| 19:04:10 | Mat3 | sorry, I don't know what you mean |
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| 19:37:18 | dom96 | enquora: waltons? |
| 19:37:53 | enquora | http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThe_Waltons&ei=fzP-U4DpH4OsjALfuIC4DQ&usg=AFQjCNHypVxO82Sxh8U0Bmgx82qFNnqEtw&bvm=bv.74035653,d.cGE |
| 19:38:17 | enquora | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waltons |
| 19:39:15 | * | dom96 still doesn't get the relation to nimrod |
| 19:39:19 | Araq | hi guys |
| 19:39:35 | Araq | I think it's a minor bug, dom96 |
| 19:39:42 | enquora | Each episode ends with family members saying 'Good-night' to each other |
| 19:40:01 | Araq | the exception should be caught and converted to a proper error message |
| 19:41:34 | Mat3 | hi Araq |
| 19:41:48 | dom96 | enquora: i see |
| 19:42:09 | dom96 | Araq: Ok. So no warning. |
| 19:42:40 | Araq | dom96: no, warning is fine |
| 19:42:51 | Araq | but if it gives a stacktrace, it's wrong |
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| 19:45:53 | Araq | hi filippo welcome |
| 19:46:23 | filippo | hi all, i'm playing with nimrod and i really like it. I tried to link to a c library with the clib option. However the generated command in -l/current/path/of/execution/libname |
| 19:46:25 | filippo | hi Araq |
| 19:46:39 | filippo | isn't it wrong? |
| 19:46:55 | filippo | i mean usually on linux i link a library with just -lnameoflibrary |
| 19:47:19 | filippo | and not with the full path (in fact that's the reason for the -L flag) |
| 19:47:43 | Araq | you can do that with --passL:"-lnameoflibrary" |
| 19:48:06 | Araq | not sure what clib should do, I didn't invent it |
| 19:48:29 | filippo | Araq: thank you i'll read the doc help of passL |
| 19:49:47 | filippo | Araq: i now that you're the nimrod author, so i ask you directly |
| 19:50:05 | filippo | are there some kind of type traits for proc function pointers |
| 19:50:14 | filippo | for retrieving ariety and params types |
| 19:50:24 | filippo | basically a sort of compile time reflection |
| 19:51:01 | Araq | typetraits.nim has arity and name for types, but that's it unfortunately |
| 19:51:47 | Araq | a type API for macros is planned, but doesn't exist |
| 19:52:04 | filippo | Araq: ok |
| 19:52:10 | Araq | which is the opposite of the other macro APIs which are flawed, but do exist ... |
| 19:52:25 | filippo | Araq: from the command line output --clib:LIBNAME link an additional C library |
| 19:59:34 | reactormonk | dom96, I saw. |
| 20:22:52 | filippo | btw is there some kind of debug support? |
| 20:23:03 | filippo | or have i to debug the generated c code? |
| 20:26:14 | reactormonk | filippo, there should be, try the doc |
| 20:29:54 | dom96 | filippo: there is the embedded nimrod debugger, but it may not work very well. |
| 20:30:00 | filippo | found this post http://forum.nimrod-lang.org/t/297 about type traits. If i've some time i'll try to extend the api |
| 20:30:14 | dom96 | http://build.nimrod-lang.org/docs/endb.html |
| 20:30:58 | filippo | dom96: thanks ;) |
| 20:31:11 | dom96 | np |
| 20:36:19 | Araq | filippo: usually --debuginfo --linedir:on and then debugging with gdb works better |
| 20:40:34 | filippo | Araq: ok, thank you. |
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| 21:04:22 | UNIcodeX | since nimrod compiles to c and c++, it is then theoretically possible to build extension modules for python which are natively multithreaded, thus bypassing the GIL for certain tasks, yes? |
| 21:05:10 | EXetoC | that seems very likely |
| 21:05:22 | reactormonk | UNIcodeX, that depends on the structure of your code, but yes, it should be possible. |
| 21:07:14 | jjap | Would anyone know why " import posix; var sp = posix.Ttimespec(); discard posix.clock_gettime(0,sp) " would get the compiler to complain "(.text+0x199): undefined reference to `clock_gettime' " ? |
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| 21:11:27 | Araq | UNIcodeX: yes. and there is also nimborg which is a nice bridge between python and nimrod |
| 21:11:43 | Araq | unfortunately it's not being worked on anymore |
| 21:13:30 | Araq | jjap: try --passL:"-lrt" |
| 21:16:14 | UNIcodeX | reactormonk, Araq: thank you |
| 21:19:37 | UNIcodeX | nimborg is very interesting indeed |
| 21:22:02 | reactormonk | UNIcodeX, feel free to pick it up |
| 21:23:04 | filippo | bye all |
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| 21:28:21 | jjap | Araq: Same. nimrod c -r mycode.nim --passL:"-lrt" ... mycode.o: In function `mycodeInit': mycode.c:(.text+0x199): undefined reference to `clock_gettime' |
| 21:29:20 | Araq | jjap: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2418157/ubuntu-linux-c-error-undefined-reference-to-clock-gettime-and-clock-settim |
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| 21:36:25 | jjap | Araq: --passL:"-lrt" is supposed to get passed to gcc, correct? |
| 21:36:47 | jjap | it looks like gcc isn't getting it -> gcc -o /vagrant/mycode /vagrant/nimcache/stdlib_parseutils.o [...] /vagrant/nimcache/mycode.o -ldl |
| 21:37:39 | jjap | full copy and paste of my situation -> http://pastebin.com/t52cRj5d |
| 21:39:26 | Araq | jjap: when you use -r everything after the mycode.nim is passed to it as paramStr(1) etc. |
| 21:39:41 | Araq | so you have to write the --passL *before* the mycode.nim |
| 21:39:55 | Araq | or even better add it to your config file |
| 21:42:58 | jjap | Araq: Ah ha! Thank you. I've been playing with nimrod to see if I can replace some ruby+inline-c. So far so good. |
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| 21:43:56 | Araq | hi t4nk516 welcome |
| 21:44:05 | t4nk516 | hello |
| 21:44:43 | t4nk516 | I have a quick question about a code sample. This won't compile: |
| 21:44:44 | t4nk516 | type GraphNode[T] = object data: T links: seq[ref GraphNode] var graph = GraphNode[int](data: 0, links: @[]) |
| 21:45:19 | t4nk516 | The compiler just says "cannot instantiate 'GraphNode'" |
| 21:47:28 | Araq | use ref GraphNode[T] within the 'seq' |
| 21:48:36 | t4nk516 | oh thanks! |
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| 22:13:28 | t4nk516 | Is there a way to push an item into a sequence? |
| 22:14:54 | Araq | 'add' ? |
| 22:15:59 | t4nk516 | OK I just didnt see it in the tutorial |
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| 22:19:27 | EXetoC | keep the system.nim reference handy |
| 22:19:29 | EXetoC | also: http://nimrod-by-example.github.io/ |
| 22:20:53 | dom96 | nim by example needs stdlib examples IMO |
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| 22:32:53 | reactormonk | dom96, what do you mean by that? |
| 22:33:33 | dom96 | I mean examples of how to use sequences, sockets, hashtables etc |
| 22:35:19 | jjap | It needs more examples in general. Also, oo programming is introduced before objects are :P |
| 22:36:21 | jjap | I'm looking through the github repo. Trying to figure out how that sidebar works... |
| 22:36:35 | EXetoC | you don't want to cram things like that into the module documentation? |
| 22:41:50 | Varriount | Meeeep |
| 22:42:04 | EXetoC | beep |
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| 22:46:33 | dom96 | jjap: The content for it is taken from content/toc.md |
| 22:52:01 | jjap | dom96: Thought so: https://github.com/flaviut/nimrod-by-example/pull/15 |
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| 22:55:30 | t4nk516 | Is there a way to use `of` with strings? Like `assert("abc" of string)`? |
| 22:56:04 | dom96 | good night |
| 22:58:22 | Araq | t4nk516: no need. "abc" is always a string and you can't subtype it |
| 22:58:59 | t4nk516 | So `of` only works with subtypes? |
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| 23:01:22 | Araq | with objects, yes |
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