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02:40:15FromDiscord<Mohamed> hello
02:40:16FromDiscord<Mohamed> im new to nim
02:40:27FromDiscord<Mohamed> it looks pretty ncie
02:40:29FromDiscord<Mohamed> have a nice night
02:42:14FromDiscord<Avatarfighter> @Mohamed welcome to the best language ™ ™
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07:23:46nc-xAraq: why have you downvoted your own RFC?
07:23:50nc-xhttps://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/144
07:24:17Araqthat's what we do to get a voting going
07:24:57nc-xAh, okay...
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07:30:26ZevvAraq: I don't like the nil assignment for dangling pointers - I feel this does not clearly show intention and needs something more explicit
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08:18:04AraqZevv, we need to see how often it comes up really. We can use sugar for it but we can also start to detect nil derefs at compile-time in more cases
08:18:43AraqI like how Kotlin solved the null problem and I think it would work just as well for Nim
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08:25:25ZevvI slowly start to grasp the mechanism I think
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10:04:39PMunchCool, someone at work just mentioned in passing that he had been looking at this small language called Nim to create some utilities
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10:08:53narimiranPMunch: make sure you weren't looking at a mirror and talking to yourself! :D
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10:10:05Araqnarimiran, now that's mean
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10:25:48PMunchHaha, nope!
10:26:10PMunchIt's catching on!
10:32:41FromGitter<mratsim> instead of = nil just use dispose
10:37:16Araqdispose means to free memory, not to 'unarm' a dangling pointer. we could use 'unarm'.
10:37:44Araqshort and unknown.
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10:40:59Araqor maybe it's "disarm", my English sucks
10:44:10FromGitter<mratsim> unref?
10:46:03Zevvunref feels ok. Isn't explict unreffing also better because you could change the implementation of the operation at any time - that's harder to do with assigning to nil.
10:49:55FromGitter<mratsim> yes, in the future it can be a no-op without potentially introducing backward compatibility issue
10:52:51Araqthere is already GC_unref with different semantics
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11:17:38FromGitter<alehander42> Btw should I finish the nil pr
11:17:52FromGitter<alehander42> Araq? (The ref nil check
11:18:23AraqI don't like the fact that you used yet another IR
11:18:29Araqmaybe I misremember
11:18:48Araqwhy not patch sempass2 to do the checking better?
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11:25:10FromGitter<alehander42> I don't think I did, I reused pnodes
11:25:59FromGitter<alehander42> Eh it's messy I don't think it belongs in the same pass
11:26:59Araqit already does it except that we gave up a bit too quickly
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12:08:07FromGitter<alehander42> I am not sure the previous approach would've worked too well
12:08:20FromGitter<alehander42> If that's the not nil annotation one
12:09:02FromGitter<alehander42> It's still part of sempass2
12:09:17FromGitter<alehander42> It just resides in it's own module
12:10:01FromGitter<alehander42> And it's invoked in the end of track
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13:47:17FromGitter<coocheenin> Hi, Folks. You are welcomed to write your thoughts here: ⏎ https://github.com/FedericoCeratto/nim-package-directory/issues/18 (https://github.com/FedericoCeratto/nim-package-directory/issues/18) ⏎ It's about getting the latest version of a package in Nim Package Directory
13:48:39FromGitter<mratsim> you probably should change "religious" to "holistic"
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13:50:00FromGitter<coocheenin> @mratsim Done
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14:07:27FromGitter<Varriount> ryukoposting: You there?
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16:18:06planetis[m]alehander42: don't forget to remove submodule.nim from your comprehension package
16:18:43shashlickhttps://llvm.org/pubs/2006-DSN-DanglingPointers.pdf
16:19:06planetis[m]also i didn't know that python had set and table comprehensions, cool
16:19:42narimiranplanetis[m]: yeah, it has them and they are quite convenient to use
16:21:48planetis[m]is there a problem supporting the syntax you posted in your comment?
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16:28:04narimiranwhich syntax, what comment?
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17:49:21FromGitter<coocheenin> Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond (about getting latest version of a package). And thanks to @FedericoCeratto for his contribution. Nim Community rocks!
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18:54:34FromGitter<kayabaNerve> If I have a proc, and need to see if `echo` exists anywhere in it, even in a for loop, what's the best way to do that?
18:54:59narimiranturn it into a `func` and see if compiler complains? :D
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18:57:33FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Echo is an example
18:57:46FromGitter<kayabaNerve> I'm writing a lib to stop exception bubble up
18:58:03FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Where it won't compile unless you only raise what that function explicitly raises
18:58:19FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Which requires replacing every raise with a discard and testing against a blank raises pragma
19:10:55FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Or not 0_o
19:11:03FromGitter<kayabaNerve> ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ returns true. [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5c9d1c470b3b8749f4daeff5]
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19:14:43FromGitter<kayabaNerve> I'm not saying compiles shouldn'']
19:15:33FromGitter<kayabaNerve> I guess I'd have to return two different procs and strip the unused one...
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19:22:00planetis[m]namiran: sorry seems that my matrix client (nheko) is completly broken and desyncs
19:22:32planetis[m]i was talking about alehanders comment in his library
19:25:19FromGitter<brentp> is there a way to clear a builtin set?
19:25:51planetis[m]can someone explain, why is this https://gist.github.com/b3liever/7c413a9654023c2595748ab4f77f9ef3 not working? And how can I make it work.
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19:26:31FromGitter<brentp> maybe `zeroMem(aset.addr, sizeof(aset)` ?
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19:39:11xaceis there a way to get the exitcode from a osproc.execProcess() or should i use osproc.startProcess() ?
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19:50:40shashlickexecCmdEx?
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19:57:03xaceisnt it deprecated?
19:58:23xacefacepalm i was reading the wrong command's comments... execcmdex works fine
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20:01:42Araqbrentp: s = {}
20:05:49Zevvtalking about sets: is there a way to construct a full set other then iterating and including all its members
20:07:20FromGitter<brentp> @Araq. cheers.
20:07:42AraqZevv: {low(T)..high(T)}
20:08:07Zevvof course
20:10:05Zevvtakk
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20:21:45Zevvnarimiran: what is your github profile image from?
20:23:21narimiranhaha, it is not from anywhere, it was made for me when i complained "i don't have an avatar" :)
20:23:54narimiranwhy do you ask?
20:24:13Zevvintriguing. It is not trivial, not sure why
20:24:40Zevvprobably overthinking it :)
20:26:45ZevvWhy is the background not simply monochrome but slightly blotted? What is the reason for the assymetry in the overlapping part of the squares? why? why?!
20:27:54narimiranhaha :)
20:31:52narimiranyou really did spend some time looking at it
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20:40:15FromGitter<coocheenin> @Zevv It looks like man and women together...
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20:43:49ZevvHadn't seen that in there yet :) It just made me wonder: it feels to me it was not just slapped together, there's more to it. For some reason, it works for me. It would make for great cover art for abstract electronic minimalism music.
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20:48:27narimiranok, now we're getting somewhere....
20:49:39FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Araq, damn, meant to catch you.
20:49:55FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Curious as to why deadCodeElim is gone 0_o
20:50:08Araqit's always on
20:50:10FromGitter<kayabaNerve> The hint for it still exists, but the manual doesn't mention it as of 0.19.0
20:50:18Araqit's always on
20:50:22FromGitter<kayabaNerve> ... no, I generate dead code specifically
20:50:31FromGitter<kayabaNerve> And when I don't generate, the EXE is smaller
20:50:39narimiranso all those pragmas in stdlib can be removed?
20:50:44FromGitter<kayabaNerve> So unless the compile time macro is included in the EXE, it's bugged.
20:50:53FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Sorry. Not trying to act like I know more here.
20:51:25Araqmaybe your idea of dead code is different
20:52:27FromGitter<kayabaNerve> NVM, I only had my code run on debug.
20:52:39FromGitter<kayabaNerve> When I used a custom define and compiled both with debug, they were the same size.
20:52:47FromGitter<kayabaNerve> I just messed up. Sorry to bother you.
20:53:37Araqk
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21:53:03dom96The fact that this: %{"error": "No messages"} now gives a JArray seems like a bug
21:57:56Araqdom96: it's the new '%' for tuples, I'll remove it again
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23:11:32FromGitter<Varriount> Araq: A new operator for tuples?
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