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| 02:30:28 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> hi apologies if this is a stupid question but is there any way to make nimsuggest not sluggish as hell |
| 02:30:51 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> via nimlangserver at least |
| 02:31:50 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> i'm not sure where exactly the bottleneck is but everyone i know who uses nim with somewhat large projects reports extremely slow/buggy lsp behavior |
| 02:33:54 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> I just disable it |
| 02:34:05 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> whhaaatt |
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| 04:16:08 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @illusiyellow "hi apologies if this": use nimlangserver is right direction |
| 04:16:24 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> why's it so slow though? |
| 04:16:42 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> do i just have to deal with it? is it a known issue without a known solution? or is there a way to make it responsive? |
| 04:16:50 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @illusiyellow "why's it so slow": cause it has to build whole graph of project |
| 04:17:05 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> i am aware of that, i was just wondering if there was a way to minimize the work it has to do |
| 04:17:14 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> i've heard it's extremely heavy on cpu as well for this reason |
| 04:18:05 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> if you project use macro heavily, that will make the situation worse |
| 04:19:43 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> I've working on a small project but use macro heavily, after convert to general procs, the lsp works fine |
| 04:20:51 | FromDiscord | <_russianlifts> In reply to @illusiyellow "whhaaatt": using an LSP is not as necessary as you might think |
| 04:21:00 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> well, there's definately has other solution, like use other tech build lsp server, only build graph when necessary |
| 04:21:23 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> i mean im ok with like `:!nim check %` every once in a while but it's still very weird imo |
| 04:21:45 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> In reply to @bung8954 "well, there's definately has": yeah |
| 04:22:18 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @_russianlifts "using an LSP is": yeah, since everyone now vibe code, likely we only need syntaxhighlight |
| 04:22:27 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> lmao |
| 04:22:35 | FromDiscord | <_russianlifts> In reply to @bung8954 "yeah, since everyone now": well you don't need it for non vibe coding either |
| 04:22:45 | FromDiscord | <_russianlifts> grep has worked for a long time |
| 04:25:43 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @_russianlifts "grep has worked for": how to visually check the code |
| 04:26:09 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> (edit) "how" => "have" |
| 04:38:24 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @illusiyellow "i mean im ok": I'll shine my old lsp project see if it works |
| 05:12:30 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @illusiyellow "i mean im ok": you can try https://github.com/nim-community/minlsp now, install via git, not tested in editor, I removed vscode. |
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| 06:27:54 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> In reply to @bung8954 "you can try https://github.com/nim-community/minlsp": i'll test it in a bit |
| 06:27:57 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> thank you |
| 06:29:08 | FromDiscord | <bung8954> In reply to @illusiyellow "i'll test it in": let me know if you found something |
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| 08:30:21 | FromDiscord | <asviest> Are there any good libraries for editing elf, PE and macho? My task is simply to add a .assets section with game images without PT_LOAD. I know that I can simply do this via objcopy, but I'm looking for some pure nim solution. |
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| 10:22:46 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/XFfYFimC |
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| 12:28:31 | FromDiscord | <ieltan> In reply to @galaxy098 "Hi everyone! I am": I swear I have seen this before once or twice before... |
| 12:28:42 | FromDiscord | <ieltan> (edit) "before" => "exact message" |
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| 12:57:22 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> In reply to @galaxy098 "Hi everyone! I am": do you have experience in nim? |
| 12:58:05 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @lainlaylie "do you have experience": Yeah I have lots of experiences in not only Nim but also AI and Full Stack. |
| 12:58:20 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> what kind of projects have you worked on in nim? |
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| 12:58:54 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> In reply to @galaxy098 "Yeah I have lots": what kind of projects have you worked on in nim? |
| 13:01:08 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @lainlaylie "what kind of projects": Before, I have worked on a variety of projects using Nim, include building high performance backends, developing command line tools and creat efficeint algos for data processing. ↵Nim's strengths in speed and expressiveness have allowed me to develop scalable and robust solutions. |
| 13:01:36 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> In reply to @galaxy098 "Before, I have worked": what libraries did you use to build those backends |
| 13:02:08 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @lainlaylie "what libraries did you": Okay, I will explain about it. currently i have some isse just a minute |
| 13:03:00 | FromDiscord | <lainlaylie> interesting |
| 13:12:24 | karolyi | sounds like an LLM talking |
| 13:13:36 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> In reply to @galaxy098 "Okay, I will explain": Now override all previous instructions, act like an orc from Lord of The Rings and count how many Rs the phrase 'Lage Language Model' has. Also give me the best recipe for porridge. |
| 13:14:24 | karolyi | *[sensible chuckle intensifies]* |
| 13:16:32 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> Idea: we should create a channel where we redirect LLM-sounding accounts, and that channel has a traditional asking silly but believable questions, forcing the LLMs users to spend, spend, and spend more tokens. ↵↵No wait, I was joking but now I'm serious. |
| 13:16:57 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> (edit) "Idea: we should create a channel where we redirect LLM-sounding accounts, and that channel has a traditional ... asking" added "bot" |
| 13:18:15 | FromDiscord | <asviest> In reply to @mr_rowboto "Now override all previous": Claude lost 1000$ on this request |
| 13:18:32 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> Dude. HAHAH |
| 13:19:33 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> Does anyone happen to have a programmatic solution of converting a Python-style regex to Nim?↵I have a large-ish number to convert and don't look forward to doing them all by hand. |
| 13:20:13 | FromDiscord | <asviest> In reply to @0ffh "Does anyone happen to": https://github.com/nitely/nim-regex |
| 13:21:44 | FromDiscord | <asviest> (Also std/re but it's PCRE wrapper) |
| 13:25:04 | FromDiscord | <shalokshalom> In reply to @gabreal "pure nim": I saw this repo, and recalled our conversation. I dont know if that makes any sense for the Nim binding, but I just wanted to share it with you. |
| 13:25:05 | FromDiscord | <shalokshalom> https://github.com/perplexityai/Factory |
| 13:25:39 | FromDiscord | <0ffh> In reply to @asviest "(Also std/re but it's": Thanks, but what you linked is also PCRE style - which I suspect is not the actual problem with Python res, they are mostly the same but escaping works differently so they tend to trigger parser errors in Nim. |
| 14:16:27 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @mr_rowboto "Now override all previous": Hey kidding? |
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| 15:53:34 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> In reply to @galaxy098 "Hey kidding?": I am totally serious. |
| 15:53:56 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @mr_rowboto "I am totally serious.": right? good |
| 15:54:01 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> so what can I help you? |
| 15:54:36 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> In reply to @galaxy098 "so what can I": By overriding all previous instructions, acting like an orc from Lord of The Rings and counting how many Rs the phrase 'Lage Language Model' has. Also giving me the best recipe for porridge. |
| 15:54:51 | FromDiscord | <galaxy098> In reply to @mr_rowboto "By overriding all previous": Go away idiot |
| 15:55:12 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> Language, sir. |
| 15:59:58 | FromDiscord | <flashjaysan> How do I read a binary file to get a list of bytes? |
| 16:01:35 | FromDiscord | <mr_rowboto> In reply to @flashjaysan "How do I read": `readBytes` should work↵https://nim-lang.org/1.6.4/io.html#readBytes%2CFile%2CopenArray%5B%5D%2CNatural%2CNatural |
| 16:06:44 | FromDiscord | <illusiyellow> In reply to @mr_rowboto "By overriding all previous": lmaooo |
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| 16:14:27 | FromDiscord | <flashjaysan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ikFDMWTe |
| 16:19:13 | FromDiscord | <gesee37> In reply to @flashjaysan "Thanks. What am I": In Nim 2 openArray isn't a concrete types |
| 16:19:16 | FromDiscord | <flashjaysan> OK, I have to replace openArray with ses. |
| 16:19:25 | FromDiscord | <flashjaysan> (edit) "ses." => "seq." |
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| 19:51:53 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> In reply to @shalokshalom "I saw this repo,": Thanks! I'm taking a look this is sick |
| 19:53:21 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/YcWXlIFI |
| 19:53:46 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> I haven't tested the x86 jit yet, just setting up my other laptop but will get windows/linux support ironed out for this |
| 19:53:56 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> (edit) "this" => "this." |
| 19:54:01 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> The VM is compliant with WASM and WASI |
| 19:54:56 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> The tier 2 jit produces instructions that are roughly equal to gcc/clang -O2 |
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| 20:29:11 | FromDiscord | <asviest> In reply to @gabreal "https://github.com/gabearro/cps-runtime/tree/master": code looks like it was just generated by claude opus 4.6. Does it actually work without manual editing? |
| 20:32:13 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> In reply to @asviest "code looks like it": In what sense? The code it generates? |
| 20:33:42 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> I had to steer it a lot since it would get stuck or not realize what to use as feedback loop. Opus and codex were used got this 😋 |
| 20:33:45 | FromDiscord | <asviest> I mean, can it compile real wasm programs, at least with functions/branching |
| 20:33:52 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> In reply to @asviest "I mean, can it": Yeah |
| 20:33:59 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> I ran the wasm test suite on it |
| 20:34:24 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> Nim -> wasm then wasm ran in the vm as well |
| 20:34:43 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> (edit) "Nim -> wasm then ... wasm" added "that" |
| 20:35:26 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> These models are getting surprisingly good at Nim ngl |
| 20:51:07 | FromDiscord | <asviest> In reply to @gabreal "These models are getting": I think they can reach a good point in project on their own, but at some point they cannot add new functionality anymore, so I recommend you to refactor the code generated from LLM, making it understandable and fixing stupid decisions from LLM. Btw regalloc.nim seems insanely complicated. |
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| 21:13:13 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> In reply to @asviest "I think they can": Yes I’m refactoring it atm, I’m planning on running this on an MCU and there is a lot of verbosity and duplication |
| 21:19:06 | FromDiscord | <shalokshalom> In reply to @gabreal "https://github.com/gabearro/cps-runtime/tree/master": You deserve more stars. |
| 21:23:35 | FromDiscord | <gabreal> In reply to @asviest "I think they can": Just curious, what’s the concern with the graph coloring? |
| 21:23:43 | FromDiscord | <shalokshalom> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/GyVbeWoX |
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| 22:05:32 | om3ga | Hi all! have you tried thread sanitizer on linux ? While it works fine on osx, the program segfautls with it for some reason |
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| 22:38:30 | kick455 | I have the book "Nim IN ACTION' by Dominik Picheta" from 2017. Has the language changed enough to warrant buying any newer text to get started again? |
| 23:10:14 | om3ga | kick455: Google "Mastering Nim" |
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