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00:19:48SysIs there a procedure for replacing a letters in a string with another letter? For instance if I want to replace all T's in my string with U's
00:20:15Sysis it just .replace?
00:23:40def-Sys: yep, myString.replace('T', 'U') should work
00:26:05Sysdef-: I'm getting a attempting to call undeclared routine: 'replace' error
00:27:46def-Sys: import strutils
00:27:52Sys*facepalm*
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00:30:10Sysdef-: type string: has to be discarded
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00:31:35dom96Sys: You need to do something with the result
00:31:37def-Sys: oh right, it creates a new string
00:31:55dom96either assign it to a variable or discard it explicitly with the 'discard' keyword
00:33:45Sysvar t: string {.discardable.} = "string" would work fine?
00:34:14def-nono, just: var t = myString.replace('T', 'U')
00:34:23def-and then the new string is in t
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00:35:41SysI was able to solve the problem by assigning the new .replace string to a new variable, was just curious about how to solve it by discarding the old t string variable
00:35:59def-ah: discard myString.replace('T', 'U')
00:36:06def-but that makes no sense because you don't get the result then
00:36:57Sysbut couldn't i do discard myString to discard the old string?
00:37:02SysOr is that not what the error is saying?
00:37:21def-nope, the error is telling you that replace returns a value and you're not doing anything with it
00:37:30def-so you either need to store it in a variable or discard it
00:37:39SysGotcha! Makes more sense now
00:42:06Sysdef-: Question: for this example https://gist.github.com/def-/1c7210ff7858d2d20374 lets say that I have a file that contains the string, I want to make the script robust so that it can read in a file instead of me having to manually type out the string. Would something like var data = openFile(myfile) work?
00:42:33Sysor do I need to specify something like var data: string = openFile(myfile)_
00:42:48def-close: let data = readFile(myfile)
00:43:08def-but then you read the entire file into memory which could be a problem for big files
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00:45:58SysThese files themseleves aren't huge, but I will be working with larger data. How do you read only only a part of a file into memory?
00:46:04Syssomething like import streams?
00:47:00def-there is indeed a streams module that you could use. but it also works without importing anything: var file = open(myFile)
00:47:19def-and then: while not endOfFile(file): let letter = readChar(file)
00:49:39SysExcellent, worked like a charm. Thank you both very much! I appreciate it!
00:50:16def-you're welcome. always great to see new people trying out nim
00:52:18SysWelp time for me to bug out. Will be on tommorow, thanks again!
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04:07:39VarriountAraq: I've opened a new PR for Nimsuggest. Before you start complaining about code size increase, a good portion of it is whitespace and comments.
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04:24:27onionhammerwhoaaa this a big one
04:30:19Varriountonionhammer: ?
04:37:36onionhammerthe pr
04:37:38onionhammer;)
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06:15:35GangstaCatlet variable = spawn aProc() resulting in Error: undeclared identifier: 'spawn'
06:16:58samdorandid you import threadpool?
06:18:10GangstaCatno
06:19:07samdoranah, well that's what implements it, as far as I am aware
06:19:17GangstaCatsamdoran, that works now, thanks
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11:11:18Araqso ... somebody should fix our json module regressions. def- ?
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11:25:28dom96We find out whether we got into GSoC today!
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11:30:19federico3dom96: are you aware of https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/3910 ?
11:31:36dom96federico3: nope
11:32:18dom96looks like a simple tarball gen bug
11:32:27dom96You could probably fix it
11:32:52federico3yup, but are you guys going to release a new tarball shortly?
11:33:39dom96That's up to Araq
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11:34:14federico3then it will be 2020 :(
11:35:29dom96We really need a tool that builds a release for us
11:37:26federico3besides, are coroutines disabled by default?
11:37:37dom96yes
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11:41:42Arrrr2020 is not that far
11:43:20AraqI can ... hmmm so you want me to re-release 0.13 right?
11:44:08federico3jeez, no. It should be named 0.13.1
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11:55:44Araqfederico3: hmm fair enough, but it's just 0.13 with this installation problem fixed?
11:56:54federico3yep, the missing lib/pure/arch
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12:06:44dom96just backport the fix to master
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13:21:45federico3dom96: nimble requires some *code* from the compiler to be built: are these libraries that the compiler should install somewhere?
13:23:21dom96federico3: I'm thinking that Nim should have its own Nimble package directory. That directory should then contain the compiler sources, which itself form a 'compiler' package.
13:24:30federico3merging Nimble into Nim then? Any solution in the meantime?
13:32:49Araqfederico3: hmm? install_nimble script in the Nim repo?
13:33:41federico3uh?
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13:49:31Araqfederico3: that's how I build nimble.
13:49:56Araqbecause Nimble is part of Nim, albeit it its own repo so that it has its own issue tracker etc.
13:50:30federico3if it's part of Nim already, is it included in the Nim tarball?
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13:53:50Araqno, what would that gain us?
13:54:20Araqbut hmm I get what you're after
13:54:31Araqthat might be good idea indeed.
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14:25:39def-Araq: I narrowed the JS problem down a bit. it happens when you use x.fields["foo"], it is used as if it's x["foo"]. any idea where to look for the cause of that?
14:26:39Araqdef-: hmm, not sure what you mean
14:27:08def-Nim code x.fields["foo"] gets transformed to JS x["foo"] instead of x.fields["foo"]
14:29:48def-at least in some cases, i think it has to do with object variants: https://gist.github.com/def-/e8183e5516c57babbe20
14:30:13federico3Araq: that Nim should build from the nim tarball and Nimble should build from the nimble tarball, just that (unless they build from the same tarball)
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14:45:05dom96federico3: I think that the Nim installation tarballs (and installers) should include Nimble.
14:47:20Araqdom96: the windows installers do that but only ship the .exe, not the source of nimble
14:47:22SysIs there a built in reverse proc for strings?
14:47:56def-Sys: algorithm.reverse
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14:48:05dom96Araq: That's fine. But in the future they should ship the Nimble source code, as it itself is a package.
14:48:48Sysdef-: Thanks!
14:49:44dom96Araq: They should install it into a "global Nimble pkg" directory, which may just as well be in C:\Program Files\Nim\nimble
14:50:00dom96pretty sure that's how Python's packaging works too
14:50:26dom96then you would include the compiler sources in there too
14:51:02dom96but I need to think about how global nimble pkg dirs will be implemented in Nimble first
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14:56:13def-Araq: hm, to me it seems object variants are just not supported in JS yet
14:57:10Araqthey are supported but don't generate field checks
14:57:16federico3what? that means that Windows users cannot build the same EXEs from the tarball at the moment.
14:57:37def-Araq: ok, because i searched for the field checks in jsgen and didn't find them
15:00:22SysSorry for interrupting: Could I get a bit of help here? (https://gist.github.com/c-guzman/8708817c478fa90e436c) it seems the replace proc isn't working
15:00:42SysSorry not the replace proc, it's the reverse proc
15:01:20def-Sys: reverse() reverses the string inplace
15:01:38def-it doesn't return anything so you can just call: reverse(s)
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15:02:29dom96federico3: sorry, i'm not sure what you mean?
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15:03:50federico3dom96: right now the Nim tarball does not contain Nimble while the EXE files on http://nim-lang.org/download.html do
15:04:16dom96federico3: yes. We need to fix that.
15:04:23federico3is there a bug open for this?
15:06:18dom96federico3: Don't think so, but please check the ones tagged 'installation'
15:06:52Araqfederico3: I didn't consider it a problem since the .exe is provided for convenience.
15:07:36def-Sys: also, strutils.replace does not exactly do what you want, I'd write my own proc to do that: https://gist.github.com/def-/19feec0a66d350f9fcf9
15:08:42SysAhh I see, I had actually tried creating a case proc before, but I was trying to use the .replace which is why it was not working
15:08:44SysThis makes more sense
15:08:48SysThank you
15:08:51def-Araq: oh well, looks like yglukhov fixed it while I was still trying to figure out the bug
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15:10:22cheatfate_dom96 is it possible to pass parameters in future callback without any modification to existing asyncdispatch code?
15:10:32Sysdef-: Could you explain the .mitems?
15:10:55dom96cheatfate_: it's a closure so you can capture variables in its enclosing scope
15:11:40def-Sys: mitems is an iterator that gives you characters that you can modify directly: http://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#mitems.i,openArray[T]
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15:14:25federico3https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/3918 bug opened
15:14:41def-Sys: i updated the code with another version that uses the index instead of mitems
15:16:01dom96federico3: thank you
15:16:02SysThank you!
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15:20:11Araqyglukhov: I fail to see the correctness of your fix
15:20:54yglukhovAraq: jsgen.nim, line 897.
15:21:00yglukhovall the rest is just tests
15:21:09Araqyes, I know.
15:21:39Araqgen() doesn't do the right thing, it produces the value, not its address
15:21:53AraqgenCheckedFieldAddr() should produce an address
15:24:05cheatfate_dom96: could you please watch it? https://gist.github.com/cheatfate/33c6387c13c5276535a5
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15:29:59dom96cheatfate_: hrm, i'm not sure. But doesn't this line block anyway? https://gist.github.com/cheatfate/33c6387c13c5276535a5#file-asyncdispatch-L48
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15:31:21Araqyglukhov: well? any explanation on why that (a) fixes the bug and (b) doesn't introduce new problems?
15:31:52yglukhovAraq: give me a couple of mins pls
15:32:13Araqsure, no problem
15:32:25cheatfate_dom96: refresh please, i post full error trace log
15:33:43Syshttps://gist.github.com/c-guzman/c4fbf9ebf438d0141cc8 how do I iterate over a second string in a if function?
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15:34:26def-Sys: what do you want to do?
15:34:44def-Sys: ah, you want to iterate over s and t at the same time and compare them?
15:34:44SysEvery time the letters do not match between the two strings, I want to increase mutation count by 1
15:34:53SysYes essentially sorry if the comments werent clear
15:35:03def-I should've read the comments^^
15:35:17Sys:p
15:36:41def-I would do it like this: https://gist.github.com/def-/24b0e2e4371d50847cd8
15:41:18yglukhovAraq: ok, you're right. It should be genAddr(m) instead of gen(m[0]). That sound more correct to you?
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15:42:49Araqnot really, why is genFieldAddr(p, m.sons[0], r) not correct in the first place?
15:43:03Sysdef-: for i in 0 .. min(s.high, t.high) does this just iterate over the number of smallest length between s, and t?
15:43:14def-yes
15:43:21def-well, s.high is s.len-1
15:44:00yglukhovgenFieldAddr is not the right choice for non-etyBaseIndex objects. for such objects genFieldAccess should be used.
15:45:03dom96cheatfate_: Sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is. And I have to go.
15:45:11Sysright right, the if statement for the different lengths is just there to let me know the strings aren't identical right? It doesn't break out of the program, and it will still calculate mutations to whatever the lowest length of the two strings is?
15:45:25yglukhovand in my fix genChecked would redirect to gen nkDotExpr and it would do the right thing.
15:45:58yglukhovgenAddr does handle nkDots correctly as well. by checking for etyBaseIndex
15:46:12yglukhovso i would vote for genAddr =)
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15:49:06Sysdef-: this is good, i wasn't aware you could run if statements like this, thank you!
15:49:21Sysfor*
15:50:27def-Sys: right
15:50:52def-Sys: but you can try it out, that helps
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15:51:12SysI did, I just want to make sure I have the idea behind it right
15:51:18SysThank you for all the help
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15:54:30Araqyglukhov: ok, so use genAddr
15:54:38yglukhovdone
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15:54:50Araqat least this way it's not obviously wrong.
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16:09:59Arrrryay https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/tests/misc/tupcomingfeatures.nim
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16:12:45SysIs there a 'man' or 'help' command for built-in procs? Or is that something you'd have to look into the manual for now?
16:13:48Arrrrhttp://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html
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16:14:22SysArrrr: Thank you
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16:28:18AraqArrrr: he, I am in love with 'using'
16:28:49Araqcuts boilerplate and yet doesn't introduce ever more complex type inference rules
16:29:56AraqSys: there is also http://nim-lang.org/docs/theindex.html
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16:31:18SysAraq: this is great also, thank you, more to read the better
16:32:22AraqSys: the index is not for reading, it's for your browser search
16:32:33Araq(usually control+F)
16:32:58SysAraq: I'm aware, I guess I meant to say that the more I can read when looking for answers the better
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16:39:51Araqyglukhov: er, why is it genAddr(p, m, r) and not genAddr(p, m[0], r) ?
16:42:10yglukhovm[0] is mDotExpr. genAddr(a) checks for a[0] to be mDotExpr to make a choice between genFieldAddr or genFieldAccess.
16:43:14Araqthat's strange, but ok
16:45:39Araqyglukhov, def- what else is broken with Json and tables? I heard the default size of 4 doesn't work reliably?
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16:48:27ArrrrAraq, this makes the compiler boom http://pastebin.com/wmxxL85y
16:48:34ArrrrYour partial type is partially implemented
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17:42:26AraqArrrr: damn, but thanks
17:42:58AraqI intend to use it pretty extensively soon enough so I hope I can get it stable
17:44:36ArrrrWhat's the benefit of using partial?
17:44:50ArrrrThe use cases
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18:23:04AraqArrrr: cleaner frontend vs backend separation in the compiler
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18:23:18Araqbetter for graphics engines
18:23:43Araqyou can add fields to the scene graph nodes
18:24:15Araqplenty of use cases if we can get it to work
18:26:47ldleworklooks cool but syntax is gross :P
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18:27:17Araqldlework: I like the syntax fwiw
18:28:05ldleworkPragma?
18:28:09Araqwhat's wrong with it?
18:28:11ldleworkWhy not "= partial"
18:28:31Araqbecause our policy is to introduce features via pragmas first, if reasonable
18:28:40ldleworkpragmas should be for things you have no other place for
18:28:46ldleworknot the default place new features go :/
18:29:00ldleworkits language design as an after thought :(
18:29:06Arrrrbut partial seems to me a niche feature
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18:29:13Araqwhen it works well enough and we're certain we can support it, we can add a new keyword to the language for it
18:29:13ldleworkso?
18:29:36Arrrrso it deserves the ugly sintax
18:29:52ldleworkArrrr: so are you the one we ask to determine whether something is niche going forward, or...?
18:30:07ArrrrNo, im the one that gave his opinion
18:30:52Araqshould I nilly willy reserve new words instead for features that might go away again?
18:32:08ldleworkYeah I think some forethought could really benefit Nim's disparate feature interoperability that's all.
18:32:41ldleworkBut I understand what you're saying, its just experimental.
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18:33:59Araqtype Foo = partial object
18:34:01Araqor
18:34:06Araqtype Foo = partial
18:34:07Araq?
18:34:33ldleworkdunno, just wanted to observe you have this huge sytnax structure available for objects might as well stick the word there instead of the pragma :D
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18:35:36Arrrrtype Foo = partial ref object of Bar
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18:35:51ldlework'partial object' reads a bit nicer, but power-users will probably appreciate the shorter form - but I'm just guessing since I have no idea what is niche or not in a language with no sense of usage statistics or anything like that.
18:36:22ldleworkArrrr: that looks nice
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18:40:32ArrrrI'd take into account macros, but anyway i dont think it's going to matter for the 95%.
18:41:07ldleworksorry for coming off as an ass
18:41:20ldleworkor just being one
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18:59:18cheatfateAraq, i have a little problem with closures could you help me avoid it?
19:01:16Araqcheatfate: can you gist it?
19:01:34cheatfatehttps://gist.github.com/cheatfate/33c6387c13c5276535a5#file-asyncdispatch-L48
19:02:08cheatfatemaybe my last comment can explain my situation
19:04:34Araqer ... it took us weeks to get async into its current state
19:04:51Araqwhy not use it?
19:05:14Araqdo you think this OVERLAPPED stuff is trivial to do?
19:06:47cheatfateNot use what? sleepAsync() ? because it too slow
19:07:04cheatfatei'm trying to implement more fast variants of timeouts
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19:07:16cheatfatealready done this for linux
19:07:27cheatfatenow trying this for windows
19:07:38cheatfatebut this closure feature or bug?
19:08:02cheatfateis this normal for closure to work as i described?
19:08:26cheatfateif you say yes, i will continue to search another variants
19:11:38AraqI have no idea what it has to do with closures.
19:13:29Araqdom96: please have a look
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19:18:48mat4hello
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19:27:05cheatfatehaha, i have passed it
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19:37:50cheatfateAraq, I think closures can't build normal environment if you have decleared "var" in proc body
19:38:04cheatfatedecleared = declared sorry
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20:06:17SysThis might be found later on in dom96's book as i'm going through it, but I have a question. What's the difference between nim c -r CODE.nim and nim -d:release CODE.nim?
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20:34:49zielmichaSys: -d:release defines "release" flag, which, by default, enable compiler optimization and removes various checks (also disables stacktraces) resulting in faster code
20:35:28Syszielmicha: appreciate it!
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21:33:20ldleworkbtw, -r isn't shorthand for -release
21:34:08SysIt's shorthand for run I know
21:34:25ldleworkok :)
21:35:21SysI was just curious whether the exectuables created by both differ, as in if I did nim c -r code.nim whether that requires dependencies or not
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22:24:57Sysdom96: I'm heading out for a bit, just finished chapter two of your book. It's great so far.
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23:03:44federico3dom96: http://nimbench.firelet.net/ the sources are published, see link at the bottom
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23:12:04federico3someone good with CSS?
23:12:31ldleworkno one is 'good' with CSS
23:12:48ldleworkthere are some people who can withstand the pain for longer
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