<< 29-07-2025 >>
01:29:57FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=joSeVrCv
01:30:16FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> This is insane man
01:30:18FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> like
01:30:32FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> This isn't even programming anymore this is some legitimate alien technology here
01:40:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's also a bug
01:40:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So don't do that
01:40:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> use defer if you're going to do that
01:41:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=WodZpPCe
01:41:24FromDiscord<leorize> use try-finally so it works even at top-level
01:41:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or try finally, anything that actually y'know closes the file if `actions` errors
02:29:06FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> this voodoo magic you speak of
02:29:12FromDiscord<ollicron_53732> I want more
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05:55:36FromDiscord<jefferson089700> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/YlhASfEB
05:57:30FromDiscord<heysokam> <@&371760044473319454> ^
07:39:51FromDiscord<aintea> Deep dive into macros
07:39:55FromDiscord<aintea> You'll probably drown
07:39:58FromDiscord<aintea> But it's fun
07:43:52FromDiscord<blashyrk> Problem with macros is that it's more fun to write macros so once you're done writing your macros the problem you needed to solve using said macro is boring by comparison 😉
07:44:15FromDiscord<blashyrk> (edit) "more" => "so"
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09:27:30FromDiscord<heysokam> The problem with macros is that they are overengineering for 90% of the use cases.↵And, of the other 10%, at least 9% can be done without macros anyway 🤷‍♂️
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10:44:30FromDiscord<developeruche> Hey folk, is anyone currently trying to proof a nim program with a zkVM? ↵↵_i.e. Compile a nim program to riscv32 (no os, no std), before proof gen_
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11:28:34FromDiscord<aethrvmn> In reply to @heysokam "The problem with macros": I NEED to invent a DSL for my super niche usecase
11:38:14FromDiscord<lainlaylie> can't do pragma based cli generators without macros
11:49:12FromDiscord<ayex> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/yOHhpaOv
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12:26:50FromDiscord<nnsee> hello
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15:40:31FromDiscord<nervecenter> In reply to @heysokam "The problem with macros": For most libraries, architecting them with macros is like wiring a house with high voltage plasma arc transformers through gas tubes. Totally overengineer, inefficient, completely impossible to debug and fix without ripping it out entirely.
15:40:41FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "overengineer," => "overengineered,"
15:41:30FromDiscord<nervecenter> Macros can be great fun by try not to subject other people to your experiments by creating something useful with them. Make sure you're picking the right battles.
15:41:52FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "fun by" => "fun, but"
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16:05:54FromDiscord<blashyrk> In reply to @nervecenter "Macros can be great": This sentiment I agree with. As with everything, moderation is key. You could make the same argument about generics, exceptions etc etc as for macros. The key is in balancing between complexity and ergonomics
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18:17:33FromDiscord<Phil> Just get into the habit of documenting for every macro you write what the shape is you input and what the code looks like that you output and validating the input as well.↵That alone already saves a ton of hassle
18:22:18FromDiscord<leorize> macros doesn't compose well, so just be careful about that
18:32:51FromDiscord<haywiressc> does anyone know of a good library for webcam with nim?
18:35:06FromDiscord<haywiressc> ultimately I am trying to load webcam into textures with raylib
18:37:24FromDiscord<haywiressc> there are opencv bindings however they do not work and I think are out of date
19:08:36FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> btw I've been "vibe coding", as the youngsters say, with pixie to render some unicode text and I gotta give to you @treeform, pretty incredible and easy to use stuff
19:08:41FromDiscord<tauruuuuuus> really appreciate it
19:20:21FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @tauruuuuuus "btw I've been "vibe": Thanks!
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20:11:34FromDiscord<nasuray> In reply to @leorize "macros doesn't compose well,": Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
20:15:39FromDiscord<leorize> macros are processed outside-in (by default), so it is non-trivial for a macro in the input body to generate something to work with the outer
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21:29:22FromDiscord<blashyrk> What does the compiler use for dynamic dispatch when the experimental vtables feature isn't used?
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21:41:45FromDiscord<nasuray> In reply to @leorize "macros are processed outside-in": Ah I see, makes sense, thanks!
21:50:36FromDiscord<griffith1deadly> In reply to @blashyrk "What does the compiler": `if`s
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22:36:11FromDiscord<aintea> what is the "Scanning..." thing on nimble ?
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23:14:49FromDiscord<heysokam> The `sat` solver, I'm _(blind)_ guessing 🤔
23:18:08FromDiscord<alxhr0> When I do ``nimble add <dependency>`` how to later import it since for example ``import argparse`` doesn't work
23:28:03FromDiscord<alxhr0> Nevermind, nimsuggest just hanged lol