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01:03:19FromDiscord<dlesnoff> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bKP
01:08:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> > match email addresses with regular expressions↵Ruh roh
01:08:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Jokes aside i dont know regex APIs good enough to say anything
01:08:48FromDiscord<Rika> Your last parameter to match should be 0 or not there
01:08:49FromDiscord<Generic> wasn't validating email adresses kind of a joke
01:09:04FromDiscord<Generic> because so many things are potentially valid?
01:09:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes the spec is wild
01:09:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Examples
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01:15:13FromDiscord<sklorn> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bKR
01:16:30FromDiscord<sklorn> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bKR" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bKT"
01:16:51FromDiscord<sklorn> (edit)
01:19:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://internet-of-tomohiro.netlify.app/nim/faq.en.html#coding-how-to-store-different-types-in-seqqmark
01:20:20FromDiscord<sklorn> Yesss thank you
01:20:36FromDiscord<Generic> the union pragma is very low level and directly translates into a C union type
01:20:49FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @Generic "wasn't validating email adresses": yes https://code.iamcal.com/php/rfc822/full_regexp.txt or juste use `@`
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01:31:52FromDiscord<dlesnoff> In reply to @Rika "Your last parameter to": Thank you! It was indeed the issue. In the doc, there is a 2 as a parameter and I confused it with the number of matches. This parameter is in fact simply the starting index for the search.
01:32:53FromDiscord<Rika> your regex kinda looks generally funky too
01:33:33FromDiscord<Rika> `([\w\.])\+?[\w\.]` kinda doesnt make sense, what is the end [] for? why do you have a inside () then +? for it outside?
01:33:49FromDiscord<dlesnoff> In reply to @Generic "wasn't validating email adresses": Yes, it is recommended everywhere to NOT use regexp for email adress capturing/validation but I am here to learn
01:33:50FromDiscord<Rika> wait dumb, never mind the inside
01:34:20FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) "wait dumb, never mind the inside ... " added "part"
01:34:32FromDiscord<dlesnoff> I am removing the part between + and @ symbols
01:34:33FromDiscord<Rika> i get everything but the end [] part
01:35:03FromDiscord<Rika> ah, it is escaped + as in raw + and not "because this isnt extended regexp" escaped + meaning "actual" _
01:35:05FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) "_" => "+"
01:35:18FromDiscord<Rika> regex dialects are nice
01:35:18FromDiscord<dlesnoff> The end is just to ensure there is no special characters other than bla.domain.com
02:03:49FromDiscord<Rika> I think one of the worst parts of regex is that there is no “one standard”
02:04:11FromDiscord<Rika> Even if PCRE is fairly popular you will still definitely find another dialect that’s well used
02:04:16FromDiscord<Patitotective> time for regex 2
02:04:43FromDiscord<Patitotective> hellex
02:05:13FromDiscord<Rika> Rage-ex
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02:14:25FromDiscord<dlesnoff> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4bL0
02:16:28FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Jiezron "My standard is this": Yeah I was thinking of Vim regex actually, which does the “\+ is the one or more operator” thing
02:16:53FromDiscord<Rika> I love regex 😄
03:14:08FromDiscord<huantian> Wait not everyone uses plus as one or more??
03:17:28FromDiscord<Rika> Not every regex notation uses unescaped plus
03:17:32FromDiscord<Rika> For that
03:18:03FromDiscord<huantian> Interesting
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03:49:16FromDiscord<wiga> is there some way to encode a string into a openarray[byte] ?
03:49:21FromDiscord<wiga> i tried using toOpenArrayByte
03:49:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `myStr.toOpenArrayByte(0, myStr.high).myProc`
03:49:41FromDiscord<wiga> but couldn't find any way to make it working
03:49:50FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`myStr.toOpenArrayByte(0, myStr.high).myProc`": oh ty
03:50:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can also technically do `cast[seq[byte]](myString)` but that's 'unsafe'
03:58:14FromDiscord<Girvo> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You can also technically": Oh _now_ you tell me 😉
03:58:21FromDiscord<Girvo> (kidding, kidding)
04:01:51FromDiscord<Girvo> @wiga `stew` has some useful utilities that I reference somewhat often↵https://github.com/status-im/nim-stew/blob/master/stew/byteutils.nim#L197↵This is the same solution as Beef's toOpenArray call, just thought I'd show you it as it has other implementations of `toBytes` for various types (and `fromBytes` too)
04:02:29FromDiscord<wiga> 👍
04:03:04FromDiscord<Girvo> I use it pretty extensively to handle stuff for Modbus, too, in combination with it's `endians2.nim` module to handle endianness
04:03:32FromDiscord<Girvo> though I've extended it to handle float32, I'm adding float16 support, and have added word-order as well (because Modbus is stupid, and does Big Endian byte order, and Little Endian word order lol)
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04:04:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's not the same cause it allocates but yea 😄
04:05:13FromDiscord<Girvo> Sorry, "similar solution" 😉
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04:10:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The conversion is required for holding onto it, but if you can you make your life easier and better by using `toOpenArray`
04:10:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> openarrays really are just pointers + len internally
04:11:20FromDiscord<Girvo> Yeah in my case I do need to hold on to it, but if its just for in-place usage, you're right its better to do what you did
04:11:36FromDiscord<Girvo> Well, I hold on to it at the moment. That's changing shortly wooo
04:12:13FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @Girvo "<@795785229699645491> `stew` has some": the https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1024896355593879603/unknown.png
04:12:23FromDiscord<wiga> with `import byteutils`
04:12:28FromDiscord<wiga> yes i installed the lib
04:12:31FromDiscord<Girvo> `import stew2/byteutils`
04:12:35FromDiscord<wiga> a
04:12:45FromDiscord<wiga> not the good one tho lma
04:12:46FromDiscord<wiga> (edit) "lma" => "lmao"
04:12:47FromDiscord<Girvo> They structure their package in a pretty particular way haha
04:13:19FromDiscord<Girvo> Theres no single "entry point" import, you just import each individual module directly
04:16:29FromDiscord<wiga> ok now i have problem with my decrypt module
04:16:38FromDiscord<wiga> i dont think im gonna be able to fix lol
04:17:28FromDiscord<Girvo> Haha whats the problem?
04:18:28FromDiscord<wiga> idk
04:18:43FromDiscord<wiga> there's no error
04:18:48FromDiscord<wiga> its just not doing anything
04:19:10FromDiscord<Girvo> Probably have to share the code snippet for people to help more I think
04:19:45FromDiscord<wiga> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bLl
04:20:19FromDiscord<wiga> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bLm
04:21:43FromDiscord<Girvo> Have you chucked a few `echo` calls between each line/stepped through with a debugger? Will tell you where its choking
04:22:02FromDiscord<wiga> i'll try
04:23:12FromDiscord<wiga> wait its not getting the key
04:23:14FromDiscord<wiga> wtf
04:23:32FromDiscord<Girvo> I'm pretty sure its something to do with that `{.global.}` on that key
04:23:35FromDiscord<Girvo> You're redefining it
04:23:55FromDiscord<Girvo> Are you sure you don't just want it to take a `key: var string` rather than trying to set it as a global variabel?
04:23:58FromDiscord<Girvo> (edit) "variabel?" => "variable?"
04:24:09FromDiscord<wiga> i didnt made the module lol
04:24:20FromDiscord<Girvo> Where'd the module come from?
04:24:27FromDiscord<wiga> there you go it worked
04:24:28FromDiscord<wiga> ty
04:24:32FromDiscord<Girvo> Ah no worries haha 🙂
04:24:36FromDiscord<wiga> the global was useless
04:24:41FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @Girvo "Where'd the module come": friend gave me
04:24:42FromDiscord<Girvo> Yeah I figured as much
04:24:46FromDiscord<wiga> funno where its from lmfao
04:24:49FromDiscord<wiga> (edit) "funno" => "dunno"
04:24:54FromDiscord<wiga> prbly github
04:24:55FromDiscord<Girvo> Basically should never need to use the `global` pragma IMO
04:25:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> are you shaming me?↵(@Girvo)
04:25:57FromDiscord<Girvo> Only if you're into it 😉
04:26:27FromDiscord<Girvo> It's funny, the inital work I did on this firmware had a fair bit of `{.global.}` but nearly all of it ended up going away
04:28:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Me using 1.6 for my game
04:28:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1024900335631872020/image.png
04:28:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> All the global variables, cause they only need t obe global
04:28:22FromDiscord<Girvo> hehe. Game dev is weird though 😉
04:28:35FromDiscord<Girvo> all globals, share all the mutable state, lets gooooo
04:28:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Eh i try to avoid globals as much as possible
04:29:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> but the refactor to all my code to use a gamestate object and pass it as a parameter feels a bit bad
04:30:08FromDiscord<Girvo> I have a book on multithreaded game engine development in C++, its hilariously all just global objects with mutated state
04:30:35FromDiscord<Girvo> But hey its also really fast, so, trade offs I guess. Not so bad if a game crashes: really bad if our IoT hardware crashes out in the deep Papua New Guinea jungles lol
04:31:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Look at this guy saying games are useless
04:31:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> 0/10
04:31:38FromDiscord<Girvo> Oh god I'm going to get cancelled by gamers now
04:31:52FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Look at this guy": Games are useless
04:32:06FromDiscord<Rika> Life is a game therefore life is useless
04:32:10FromDiscord<Rika> Time to stop living
04:32:18FromDiscord<Girvo> The logic is undeniable
04:32:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont need to tell me twice
04:32:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I keep implementing less that useless parts to my game
04:33:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So eventually i'll wrap around to games being useful
04:33:47FromDiscord<Girvo> haha
04:35:21FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @Girvo "I have a book": I think it uses global variables just for making code simpler. Using global variables in small code is fine.
04:36:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> soon a glimpse of my useless looney tunes level complete animation will appear
04:37:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Kooha-2022-09-28-16-41-47.webm [Kooha-2022-09-28-16-41-47.webm](https://t2bot.io/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/vLhCyNnFRqgBlrRvgtSgiKIA)
04:39:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> finds out that matrix uploads dont embed in discord
04:39:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Atleast videos
04:42:14FromDiscord<wiga> Imagine having issues with video embedding with bridges
04:42:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea let's all moe to matrix
04:42:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Atleast then people will moderate the spammers using tools
04:43:15FromDiscord<wiga> Discord with their broken video embedder
04:43:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://streamable.com/0ua2pp solves the problem of forced download
04:44:04FromDiscord<wiga> Imma try to make an image hoster in nim
04:44:26FromDiscord<wiga> Backend development seems funny in nim
04:44:42FromDiscord<wiga> What module should i use for that?
04:45:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Where are all the web nerds at
04:45:30FromDiscord<wiga> Dunno
04:45:42FromDiscord<wiga> Ik jester is a thing
04:45:55FromDiscord<wiga> But is it more stable than express.js?
04:45:58FromDiscord<wiga> And faster
04:46:30FromDiscord<huantian> I think jester and prologue are the two main backend web dev stuffs
04:46:34FromDiscord<huantian> jester is pretty fast
04:46:53FromDiscord<huantian> I've never used express so idk
04:46:57FromDiscord<wiga> Any recommendations of tutorial?
04:47:31FromDiscord<wiga> Made by non-indian ytbers preferably, i like to understand what the guy says
04:47:48FromDiscord<huantian> no idea about any tutorials
04:47:52FromDiscord<wiga> a
04:48:09FromDiscord<huantian> just google jester docs or jester tutorial
04:48:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There isnt a lot of educational content around Nim
04:49:19FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @huantian "just google jester docs": Jester docs are eh
04:49:39FromDiscord<wiga> Last time i checked them there was not that much stuff going on there
04:49:51FromDiscord<huantian> I mean it's a simple library
04:50:18FromDiscord<wiga> I'll check later
04:50:25FromDiscord<wiga> I kinda need to sleep rn
04:50:37FromDiscord<wiga> Gotta wake up at 6am tomorrow
04:50:46FromDiscord<wiga> Its almost 1am
04:50:51FromDiscord<wiga> :neutraltroll:
04:50:53FromDiscord<huantian> maybe you should checkout prologue too tmrw
04:50:54FromDiscord<huantian> also go sleep
04:51:00FromDiscord<wiga> Yes
04:51:30FromDiscord<wiga> Another boring database course tomorrow morning :lipbite:
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05:09:11FromDiscord<Phil> Prologue is my thing
05:09:17FromDiscord<Phil> Can't support much about jester
05:10:47FromDiscord<Phil> As for tutorials, there isn't much. The docs are good, but they aren't going to explain the fundamentals of webdev to you
05:16:05FromDiscord<huantian> prologue is looking good rn tbh
05:16:14FromDiscord<huantian> if I need to make a backend web app I'm using prologue probably lol
05:18:21FromDiscord<Phil> I recommend first learning to write an html page (which means also learning CSS).↵Decent YouTube videos around that (and the CSS framework bootstrap) are on the channel traversymedia.↵↵After that you can look at a web framework to wrap your head around how you can generate that html instead of writing repetitive bits by hand via so called template languages, something like nimja
05:33:49FromDiscord<Phil> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/4bLw
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06:46:56FromDiscord<Girvo> In reply to @demotomohiro "I think it uses": This book is _very_ not simple though 🙂 It builds a full game engine around DX9, ends up being 50,000 LoC by the end of it lol
06:47:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd rather write vulkan 😄
06:47:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> jeez dx9
06:48:01FromDiscord<Girvo> Yeah its rough lol. Interesting book though!
06:49:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I just imagine the modern landscape is full of making games using ECS
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07:03:50FromDiscord<Bung> @ElegantBeef araq said const closure should make it work : (
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07:59:53NimEventerNew thread by drkameleon: See generated code after template processing?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9498
08:12:00FromDiscord<whisper> So..how can I make intellisense working in vscode?
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08:33:38FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> std/channels was removed from devel? There's a PR to add it back
08:35:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> New channels it seems
08:36:05FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Ah
08:36:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No longer need to open them
08:36:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> And they should work with isolated
08:37:01FromDiscord<Bung> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/20412 @ElegantBeef `proc doThing(a: seq, b: set, c: array)` do you have real code ?
08:37:20FromDiscord<Bung> I need confirm this will not break
08:38:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I linked a bunch of usages of me using it
08:38:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh of seq/array/set
08:38:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No clue if anyone uses it
08:39:16FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @Elegantbeef "And they should work": Hm interesting
08:40:21FromDiscord<Bung> if it previously works fine
08:55:38FromDiscord<federico3> there's no mention of supporting OpenSSL 3 in https://nim-lang.org/blog/2022/09/27/version-168-released.html - how comes?
09:06:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> #internals ?
09:10:16FromDiscord<Bung> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bMU
09:33:40FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @Isofruit "<@795785229699645491> I": I already know html css sql and stuff i just only use express for my backends
10:01:35FromDiscord<konradmb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bNi
10:18:10FromDiscord<Mrcool> I use a pipe for this https://github.com/sigmaSd/deno-nim/blob/master/examples/deno_show.nim#L21
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11:36:27FromDiscord<Prestige> What are you tying to do konradmb?
11:38:12FromDiscord<Prestige> You could just `for i in ["1","2","3"]: echo i`
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12:05:14FromDiscord<untoreh> with new nim version, compiling a func that does `rangeCheck` with `--panics=on` complains about sideeffects (`sysFatal`) should I just swap the func for a proc?
12:05:33FromDiscord<untoreh> (edit) "proc?" => "proc?🤔"
12:37:46FromDiscord<konradmb> @Prestige\: I wanted to chain mapIt inside mapIt and since I can't change "it", I had to use map with anon proc. Then I thought - why not drop two maps and do it manually in proc. But it doesn't work that way, so I rewrote the whole chain in another way. I just want to push Nim to the limit 😈
13:01:05FromDiscord<konradmb> @untoreh\: from what I remeber func functions only as a self-imposed restriction - it doesn't make compiled code more optimised or something
13:03:00FromDiscord<untoreh> is there a compiler option to turn of the effect system? since it affects multiple packages, or I will just have to go with panics:off
13:05:11FromDiscord<flywind> Open an issue? Probably a regression
13:07:06FromDiscord<untoreh> It treats defects as side effects so I assumed it was an intentional change
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13:13:28FromDiscord<flywind> What's the error message?
13:21:30FromDiscord<untoreh> nvm, I think I just happened to enable panics recently, when I thought I did have them enabled already, so It has always been this way 😛 >.< it is not a regression
13:28:48FromDiscord<auxym> In reply to @konradmb "<@778498877464117248>\: I wanted to": if you're doing a lot of chaining map/filter/fold etc, you might like https://github.com/zero-functional/zero-functional
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14:39:14FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @wiga "I already know html": Ah, in that case apologies. Already taken a look at nimja?
14:39:33FromDiscord<wiga> In reply to @Isofruit "Ah, in that case": nah
14:40:27FromDiscord<Phil> It's pretty fast from the benchmarks I saw and I'm at least not aware of any obvious missing features
14:42:04NimEventerNew thread by EnteryName: Troubles with autocompletion with VSC and third party packages, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9499
14:45:27FromDiscord<Phil> Also I can generally recommend the webdev channel, I have more of an eye on there than main
14:46:03FromDiscord<Phil> And I believe so do a decent chunk of other webdev folks here
15:02:17FromDiscord<Tekk> is there an easy way to step through a range of floats in a for loop?
15:07:24FromDiscord<Phil> Step through as in loop through?
15:09:32FromDiscord<Tekk> yeah
15:09:43FromDiscord<Tekk> i mean step as in maybe setting a step size
15:10:48FromDiscord<Tekk> actually now that im asking it sounds stupid 😅
15:15:14FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @Tekk "i mean step as": Hmm would a for each loop do since that's the simplest language construct
15:15:19FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "construct" => "construct?"
15:15:36FromDiscord<Phil> Otherwise you go into iterating by index
15:16:03FromDiscord<Tekk> im thinking something like -1.0..1.0..0.1 maybe
15:16:09FromDiscord<Tekk> but that just looks horrible
15:16:35FromDiscord<Tekk> GDScript has a range function similar to what im saying
15:16:48FromDiscord<Tekk> nim manual only has a subrange thing for types
15:21:14FromDiscord<can.l> You could define such an iterator yourself:
15:21:25FromDiscord<can.l> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPc
15:21:58FromDiscord<Tekk> if its that simple why isnt it a part of nim?
15:24:34FromDiscord<can.l> I am sure that there is a package which implements something like this somewhere.
15:24:50FromDiscord<Phil> You can't really have everything anyone would want in the stdlib, somebody needs to maintain it and given that it's easy to implement yourself and at the same time the usecase not that often occurring, it wasn't turned into stdlib code
15:25:09FromDiscord<Tekk> true, ture
15:25:11FromDiscord<Tekk> (edit) "ture" => "true"
15:25:32FromDiscord<can.l> At least to me it seems like an iterator which is used a lot in a certain domain (maybe game development), but not needed generally.
15:25:36FromDiscord<Phil> Generally there's a lot of really good stuff in packages
15:25:49FromDiscord<Phil> Like constructor
15:55:20FromDiscord<auxym> I mean even python doesn't have linspace builtin, it comes as part of numpy
15:56:28FromDiscord<auxym> here, for Nim, arraymancer has linspace: https://mratsim.github.io/Arraymancer/init_cpu.html
15:57:26FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> How would i represent this in a cleaner way for Nim? https://github.com/marteinn/Lua-Interpreter-In-Python/blob/master/luatopy/parser.py#L33
15:57:43FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> (The TokenType to Precedence mapping)
15:58:00FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Just a method that returns the precedence value of an enum?
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16:07:23FromDiscord<aruZeta> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPv
16:07:50FromDiscord<aruZeta> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPv" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPw"
16:08:02FromDiscord<aruZeta> @Horizon [She/Her]
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16:17:48FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Ah thanks! Also, `pure` doesn't do anything anymore for us anymore
16:17:55FromDiscord<konradmb> @auxym\: I did check it out earlier and it is nice, but I miss calling external procs inside `-->`
16:37:00FromDiscord<Mr. Rc> i am trying to work with winim/clr to invoke a function from a .net assembly but whenever i try to invoke the function it gives me unable to invoke specified member: <functionname> error
16:37:08FromDiscord<Mr. Rc> does anyone have any idea about this?
16:37:51FromDiscord<Mr. Rc> not sure if i am doing it right https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1025083999804194978/unknown.png
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17:00:32FromDiscord<Mr. Rc> nevermind, figured it out
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18:23:00FromDiscord<jan Apisu> how to iterate over a string
18:23:04FromDiscord<jan Apisu> and get the index too
18:23:17FromDiscord<jan Apisu> or iterate over a string and get the next character too
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18:31:33FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Working on Nim JVM and suffering lmao
18:31:37FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Finally making progress
18:36:01FromDiscord<jan Apisu> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1025113738153566261/unknown.png
18:42:32FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> If i make a sequence that adds values to it from the 0 index (so add is more like `insert(val, 0)`), what would be an appropriate name for it? It adds a `JMethod` to a sequence like a queue
18:44:03FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Nvm just named it `queue`
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18:47:24FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Hm idk what the equivalent of `insert` is for a single value
18:47:44FromDiscord<jan Apisu> prepend
18:47:46FromDiscord<jan Apisu> (edit) "prepend" => "`prepend`"
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18:49:14FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> That creates a new seq, `system.insert` does what i need, was looking at sequtils :p
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18:52:39FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @jan Apisu "": yeah iterating by index is probably the best way to do this
18:52:47FromDiscord<huantian> but I don't do string parsing much so what do I know
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18:54:39FromDiscord<jan Apisu> i want to learn nim
18:54:47FromDiscord<jan Apisu> so i thought id solve problems on codewars
18:54:59FromDiscord<jan Apisu> but most of them are string related
18:56:17FromDiscord<jan Apisu> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3OzE
18:57:15FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> `` means to export something
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18:57:26FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> So you can use it in another module if imported, for example
18:58:00FromDiscord<jan Apisu> weird
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18:58:19FromDiscord<jan Apisu> in python we have to add it to `all`
18:58:27FromDiscord<jan Apisu> (edit) "in python we have to add it to `all` ... " added "list"
18:58:30FromDiscord<jan Apisu> even weirdeer
18:58:31FromDiscord<jan Apisu> (edit) "weirdeer" => "weirder"
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19:04:49FromDiscord<jan Apisu> how do we add two sequences
19:05:35FromDiscord<demotomohiro> !eval echo @[1, 2] & @[3, 4]
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19:07:25FromDiscord<demotomohiro> List of what you can do with sequences: https://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#system-module-seqs
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19:09:36FromDiscord<jan Apisu> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPQ
19:09:38FromDiscord<jan Apisu> idk why this doesnt stop the recursion
19:11:12FromDiscord<jan Apisu> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPQ" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPR"
19:15:18FromDiscord<jan Apisu> because im stupid
19:17:54FromDiscord<jan Apisu> nice
19:17:56FromDiscord<jan Apisu> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPU
19:18:27FromDiscord<jan Apisu> the return isnt required
19:20:16FromDiscord<Generic> it is probably faster if you would pass in a var seq and add elements to it
19:21:12FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPW
19:21:31FromDiscord<jan Apisu> yep
19:24:31FromDiscord<jan Apisu> `proc solution(w: int, h: int): optional[seq[int]] =`
19:24:46FromDiscord<jan Apisu> i want to be able to return null
19:25:13FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Anyone know how I'd return a reference to a value in a sequence?
19:27:07FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> I don't need to use a reference, but this would definitely make the code cleaner imo
19:29:34FromDiscord<demotomohiro> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bPY
19:30:32FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> It returns a var int?
19:30:37FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> How does that even work?
19:33:19FromDiscord<demotomohiro> According to nim manual:↵> A proc, converter, or iterator may return a var type which means that the returned value is an l-value and can be modified by the caller.
19:33:35FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Oh wait then that'd mean i wouldn't need to use a reference
19:33:59FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Wait I'm using a template so I don't even need to return a reference
19:35:20FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bQ3
19:37:35FromDiscord<jan Apisu> In reply to @demotomohiro "This doesn't return a": so are ints mutable?
19:42:48FromDiscord<demotomohiro> `var` variables are mutable but `let` or `const` are immutable.
19:43:40FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Adding `var` to a parameter or a return type makes them mutable.
19:54:24FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> How would you check if a file exists?
19:54:32FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Like, on the host os
19:54:53FromDiscord<Yardanico> `fileExists` ?
19:55:08FromDiscord<Yardanico> std/os can be useful for these kind of tasks obviously
19:59:25FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thanks
20:03:09FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @Event Horizon "Working on Nim JVM": you're that guy? (guy being gender neutral)
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20:06:57FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Forrest?
20:06:58FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @albassort "you're that guy? (guy": Wdym by that guy? I've been talked about? xD
20:07:07FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @ShalokShalom "Forrest?": Yup that's me!
20:07:14FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Whats this? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1025136691368955944/Screenshot_10.png
20:08:03FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @ShalokShalom "Whats this?": i think you might want to read the first nim tutorial
20:08:09FromDiscord<Yardanico> you compile and run by doing `nim c -r` or `nim r`
20:08:20FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/tut1.html
20:08:21FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I already tried -r before
20:08:26FromDiscord<Yardanico> it's not `nim -r`
20:08:27FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> And the manual speaks about --run as well
20:08:31FromDiscord<Yardanico> it's either `nim c -r` or `nim r`
20:08:51FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @ShalokShalom "And the manual speaks": yes, `-r` is a shorthand of `--run`
20:08:54FromDiscord<Yardanico> `nim compile --run file.nim`
20:09:10FromDiscord<Yardanico> `nim c -r file.nim`
20:09:12FromDiscord<Yardanico> same meaning
20:09:35FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1025137285760553103/Screenshot_12.png
20:09:48FromDiscord<Yardanico> but that's the _option_
20:09:49FromDiscord<Yardanico> not the command
20:09:55FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> i am tired
20:09:56FromDiscord<Yardanico> you have to tell the compiler at least one command
20:10:12FromDiscord<Yardanico> also your code is wrong - if you want to store the result of a call in a variable, you do it another way
20:10:26FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> you wanna tell me there is one r command and a --run option
20:10:32FromDiscord<Yardanico> maybe you should still give tut1/tut2 a read ? :)
20:10:33FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> And the two are entirely different things
20:10:45FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> That sounds like confusing API design 😛
20:10:47FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Thanks
20:11:15FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @Yardanico "also your code is": Yeah, I assumed already. I just wrote this blindly, as I assumed it might be 🙂
20:11:17FromDiscord<Yardanico> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bQi
20:11:18FromDiscord<Yardanico> assuming you installed the shell package of course
20:11:23FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> No expectations of that already working.
20:11:31FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Yes, did that at least 😄
20:11:39FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Thanks a lot
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20:12:00FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @Event Horizon "Wdym by that guy?": @albassort :p
20:12:16FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @Event Horizon "<@217459674700578816> :p": he already got pinged since you replied to him
20:12:34FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> I typically turn reply pings off, not sure if i did this time
20:12:41FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @Event Horizon "Wdym by that guy?": I've used your work in my project, and I've also been mad when it doesn't work, and I've also been happy when it does
20:12:44FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> The documentation showed dirExists with proc
20:12:50FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @albassort "I've used your work": which work?
20:12:54FromDiscord<albassort> nim jvm
20:12:55FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://nim-lang.org/docs/os.html#dirExists%2Cstring
20:12:56FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @ShalokShalom "The documentation showed dirExists": yes, because it is a procedure
20:13:01FromDiscord<Yardanico> it shows you the signature of that procedure
20:13:01FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @albassort "I've used your work": Wait what? What work did i do
20:13:03FromDiscord<Yardanico> not how to call it
20:13:07FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> yeah, I assumed this is how its expected to call it
20:13:13FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Are there no examples?
20:13:13FromDiscord<Yardanico> as I said, read the Nim tutorials at least
20:13:17FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Dou mean JNim? That ain't mine :p
20:13:18FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thanks
20:13:24FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> (edit) "Dou" => "Do you"
20:13:30FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @ShalokShalom "Are there no examples?": you get the signature of the proc, so you just call it by that signature
20:13:33FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> So thats always the definition, in the docs
20:13:39FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I see
20:13:41FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> makes sense
20:13:42FromDiscord<Yardanico> yes, unless you have the examples block
20:13:48FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Examples would be nice too
20:13:51FromDiscord<Yardanico> some procs have examples
20:13:54FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> i see
20:13:55FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thy
20:14:12FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> guess I could use yours now and commit that
20:14:22FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @albassort "nim jvm": Yeah idk what work of mine you could've used, nearly everything i do is incomplete-
20:14:25FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1025138497083953312/unknown.png
20:14:25FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Or horrible to use
20:14:25FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> so the next person doesnt end up like me
20:14:34FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @Yardanico "": there's an example here
20:14:42FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> yep
20:14:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> but as I said, you might get confused more and more if you haven't used Nim before - tut1 and tut2 are quite short
20:15:03FromDiscord<Yardanico> if you already know other languages it'll be easy to skim through
20:15:04FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/tut1.html
20:15:14FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thanks dear
20:17:40FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Now it tells me, that indendation is wrong
20:17:41FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://github.com/Vindaar/shell#usage
20:17:50FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> But the macro is supposed to work like that
20:18:17FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bQl
20:18:24FromDiscord<Yardanico> you don't need &&
20:18:29FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bQl" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4bQm"
20:18:32FromDiscord<Yardanico> read the readme documentatiion
20:18:34FromDiscord<Yardanico> (edit) "documentatiion" => "documentation"
20:18:39FromDiscord<Yardanico> it doesn't work 1:1 as the shell
20:18:42FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I want to execute cd only, if git was successful
20:18:44FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ok
20:18:54FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> but why does it complain about indendation?
20:19:09FromDiscord<Yardanico> because `&&` is not valid syntax and it confuses the lexer/parser
20:19:12FromDiscord<Yardanico> in this case
20:19:13FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> i see
20:20:05FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://paste.ee/p/SkvHd
20:20:08FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ok, now I am lost
20:20:19FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> those errors are really.. quite something
20:21:11FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ah, it hangs at the URL
20:21:14FromDiscord<Yardanico> you have to use quotes here because this isn't valid nim syntax either
20:21:21FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> yes
20:21:23FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> see that now
20:23:55FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ok, the script asks me to confirm the process with manual input and gives me no option to pass along a parameter to automatically accept it
20:23:59FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> like a y/n question
20:24:10FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> how would I approach that? 🙂
20:24:29FromDiscord<Yardanico> read the line from the terminal, compare it, and do actions based on the result
20:24:36FromDiscord<Yardanico> `readLine` from system, it can work on things like `stdin` too
20:25:12FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ok, thanks a lot
20:25:15FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> will figure this out
20:26:04FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I am still puzzled - does this mean I would ultimately just send a simple y into the shell?
20:26:21FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Like, the process is still running and waiting for input in this way?
20:26:45FromDiscord<Yardanico> not sure what you mean, but yes, with `readLine` you'll block the execution until the user enters the line
20:26:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> for the prompt first you might use `writeLine` with stdout
20:27:03FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> i dont want the user to enter the line
20:27:05FromDiscord<Yardanico> or https://nim-lang.org/docs/rdstdin.html to simplify a bit
20:27:07FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I just want to accept it
20:27:10FromDiscord<Yardanico> ??
20:27:15FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> i like to accept it
20:27:18FromDiscord<Yardanico> accept what?
20:27:23FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> the read
20:27:30FromDiscord<Yardanico> you mean you're running a shell command and want to enter "y" to it?
20:27:35FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> yes
20:27:37FromDiscord<Patitotective> the program you're writing will be the "user"
20:27:41FromDiscord<Yardanico> usually you'd use non-interactive options for that shell command, and not code it in the program
20:27:44FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @ShalokShalom "yes": what program?
20:27:45FromDiscord<Yardanico> git?
20:27:58FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> git downloads a bash script
20:28:00FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> and I execute that
20:28:14FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> it asks the user to import some gdp stuff
20:28:15FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> keyring
20:28:18FromDiscord<Yardanico> check if that bash script has an option to accept whatever it asks by the command line
20:28:24FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> https://github.com/nspawn/nspawn/blob/master/nspawn#L101
20:28:34FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> And I already said it doesnt 😛
20:28:43FromDiscord<Yardanico> then you have to use std/osproc
20:28:45FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Progress update: I can compile a very crappy "Hello World" script to the JVM using Nim code :)
20:28:46FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Although in miserable english
20:28:50FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> ok, thanks
20:28:55FromDiscord<Patitotective> In reply to @Event Horizon "Progress update: I can": noce
20:29:04FromDiscord<Patitotective> (edit) "noce" => "nice"
20:29:20FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @Event Horizon "Progress update: I can": Still not loving Truffle? :
20:29:21FromDiscord<Yardanico> you'll need to start the process, then write to its input stream
20:29:27FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Could defo be better but, it works now in a way that lets me do things like validation if i needed to
20:29:28FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> mhn
20:29:33FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thanks a lot
20:29:56FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> In reply to @ShalokShalom "Still not loving Truffle?": I'd prefer native integration with the JVM as well as non-graal specific integration xD
20:30:40FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Nim is one-step closer to making Minecraft mods :)
20:31:36FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> But yeah i'm likely gonna need to write a Nim stdlib package for Java
20:33:55FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> In reply to @Yardanico "you'll need to start": the process is already started, no?
20:34:03FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> like, when I run the bash script
20:34:14FromDiscord<Yardanico> you need to use startProcess to start the bash script
20:34:21FromDiscord<Yardanico> not `shell`
20:34:27FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Aaaah, ok
20:34:30FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> That makes sense
20:34:33FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> Thanks a ton
20:34:47FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/osproc.html#startProcess,string,string,openArray[string],StringTableRef,set[ProcessOption don't forget to pass `poEvalCommand` to options
20:36:20FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> startProcess("bash nspawn --init garuda/garuda/raw")
20:37:04FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> thats all very handy
20:37:11FromDiscord<ShalokShalom> I guess I just have to learn the tools
20:47:03FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Does anyone know how i'd get a unique number for a unique string?
20:47:41FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> So `"hello world"` and `"hlleo world"` will be me a different result but `"hello world"` will always be the same?
20:48:51FromDiscord<Yardanico> use hashes
20:48:57FromDiscord<demotomohiro> https://nim-lang.org/docs/hashes.html
20:49:07FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://nim-lang.org/docs/hashes.html#hash%2Cstring
20:49:08FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Ah thanks!
20:50:08FromDiscord<Yardanico> actually they might have the same hash, so just use crc32 maybe
20:51:08FromDiscord<Yardanico> ah no, that'll still have collisions
20:51:11FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Ah, i think i figured out a way without hashing anyway
20:51:16FromDiscord<Yardanico> which way?
20:51:37FromDiscord<Yardanico> but collision probability for murmur hashing should be quite low, it's what Nim uses
20:51:45FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> I'm just storing the variable names in a sequence and since they're all local to a method, it won't collide
20:51:55FromDiscord<Yardanico> ah in that way, then of course
20:52:00FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> I can just use the indexes since they shouldn't change
20:52:03FromDiscord<Yardanico> it sounded like quite a different task than you're describing
20:52:29FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Yeah sometimes i overengineer things in my head and burn myself out of projects heh
20:53:16FromDiscord<Horizon [She/Her]> Like what i'm doing rn, i had an object for context that i had full control over, yet forgot that i could edit it to store the information i needed
20:55:36FromDiscord<martinium> Can anyone show me how to convert/structure the following code into async code in Nim? https://gist.github.com/martinium/cf44daa3a5b647ca6be0dd509b56a2d8
20:57:14FromDiscord<martinium> I assume I need to queue up the reads and writes somehow?
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22:00:57FromDiscord<sOkam!> It feels kinda lame to me that functions as useful as `getAppDir()` are not even usable in scripts 😔↵Do you know if there are any plans to increase the toolset of std functions that nimscript can use?
22:01:56FromDiscord<sOkam!> I find myself constantly writing python for scripts, just because of how much of the std is missing
22:32:23FromDiscord<jordan4ibanez> So which of the 3 top vscode plugins is the best one for nim?
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22:33:11FromDiscord<Patitotective> nimsaem
22:34:25FromDiscord<Raynei486> In reply to @sOkam! "It feels kinda lame": I guess the closest you can get is `getCurrentDir()`?
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22:35:09FromDiscord<Patitotective> In reply to @sOkam! "It feels kinda lame": well how do you expect `getAppDir` to work if there is no executable in nimscript
22:37:06FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @sOkam! "It feels kinda lame": https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimscript.html#projectDir↵This doesn't works for you when you write nimscript?
22:39:19FromDiscord<jordan4ibanez> In reply to @Patitotective "nimsaem": Is it possible to get that plugin to automatically display the type like ``: int``
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23:18:29FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Raynei486 "I guess the closest": problem is that is dependent on current working dir
23:18:45FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @Patitotective "well how do you": by getting the path of the file, just like `file` in pythong
23:18:54FromDiscord<sOkam!> (edit) "pythong" => "python"
23:20:30FromDiscord<sOkam!> In reply to @demotomohiro "https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimscript.html#projectDir": worked, didn't see that one. ty ✍️
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