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02:18:36PMunchHmm, is there a udev package like pyudev for Python?
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04:46:09FromGitter<vegansk> @PMunch, you can try to search on github: ``udev language:nimrod``
04:47:59FromGitter<zetashift> which MingW version works on windows with nim? Getting a message saying my mingw installation is a incompatible one(I tried mingw 5.0.3 and mingw-w64)
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04:55:15FromGitter<vegansk> @zetashift , I use version that comes with Qt 5 SDK, gcc -v says: ``gcc version 5.3.0 (i686-posix-sjlj-rev0, Built by MinGW-W64 project)``
04:58:14FromGitter<zetashift> egh mingw-w64 i used is 6.2
05:12:01FromGitter<zetashift> thanks !
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05:47:29FromGitter<zetashift> mhmhm weird same error
05:47:59FromGitter<zetashift> same gcc too :( gcc version 5.3.0 (i686-posix-sjlj-rev0, Built by MinGW-W64 project)
05:48:49FromGitter<vegansk> Show the error and the cmdline
05:49:50FromGitter<zetashift> when running the finish.exe I get: http://pastebin.com/RY0AsQvV
05:50:20FromGitter<zetashift> nim v 0.15.2
05:50:58FromGitter<vegansk> what is finish.exe?
05:51:43FromGitter<zetashift> http://nim-lang.org/download.html , they recommend the zip files and use "finish.exe" to get mingw installation
05:57:14FromGitter<vegansk> Don't know. I build Nim from sources
06:02:23FromGitter<nigredo-tori> Seems like a bug in finish here: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/46e4b4854e9cb564950e7802aaaaf1a2c8c8cab9/tools/finish.nim#L87-L90 - on my machine (64 bit) `gcc -dumpmachine` returns `i686-w64-mingw32`
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08:24:06FromGitter<zetashift> compiling from sources build.bat works but build64.bat doesn't work hmhmmhmh, I guess I have a wrong version of mingw
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08:59:45FromGitter<zetashift> well fixed it, indeed a wrong version of mingw!
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10:00:10FromGitter<vegansk> @Araq, hi! Is it safe to call default implementation of deepCopy for the object created in another thread?
10:02:27Araqit's commonly done
10:02:52Araqbut I doubt it's really safe
10:03:12Araqyou don't block the owning thread, so it could recycle before your deepcopy is complete
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10:03:48Araq'spawn' gets all these details right, but ofc everybody can do better than my implementation
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10:08:46FromGitter<vegansk> Thanks. One more question, could you please look at PRs https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5163 and https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5138
10:09:33FromGitter<vegansk> I'm not sure about the function name in PR 5163
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10:11:29dom96vegansk: Maybe call it `isPollAllowed`
10:11:47dom96or hasPendingOperations
10:14:38FromGitter<nigredo-tori> @dom96, `hasPendingOperations` implies some subject, IMO.
10:16:00dom96what do you mean by that?
10:17:18FromGitter<nigredo-tori> *something* has pending operations. You can't use it in a sentence without a subject.
10:17:55dom96"## Returns `true` if the global dispatcher has pending operations."
10:18:04dom96The global dispatcher is the implicit subject here.
10:18:44Arrrrcall it 'isGlobalBusy'
10:19:47FromGitter<vegansk> Vote for hasPendingOperations
10:20:54dom96yay, I can resolve conflicts in Github's web interface now.
10:21:06dom96That makes PRs on the packages repo much easier to merge.
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10:29:03Araqcan somebody please patch finish.nim to check for mingw's insane default installation location?
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10:36:24cheatfatei think `isEmpty` will be nice name
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10:38:55FromGitter<zetashift> mingw installed itself in "Program Files" and then "mingw-w64\x86_64-5.4.0-posix-seh-rt_v5-rev0\mingw64" which was the correct mingw version for me
10:39:17FromGitter<vegansk> @cheatfate, I thought about it, but then it must have the paremeter of type PDispatcher. But ``poll`` doesn't have it. Also please look at my comment: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5162#issuecomment-269611558
10:41:47Araqzetashift: I heard rumors that something like C:\x86_64-5.4.0-posix-seh-rt_v5-rev0 is the default location
10:42:01Araqwhich doesn't contain 'mingw' and so finish.nim is out of luck
10:44:59FromGitter<zetashift> I didn't change a thing about the installer except for setting the 'seh' option and setting it to x86_64
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10:46:08FromGitter<zetashift> I've never been good with dealing with gcc tho so I won't be much help here either
10:46:31cheatfatevegansk: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5162#issuecomment-269611558
10:47:10FromGitter<vegansk> @cheatfate , I'm already there :-)
10:48:13FromGitter<vegansk> @cheatfate, is there any `wanted` example ?
10:49:32FromGitter<zetashift> also an error resulting in a failure when i do "koch nimble" : \nim\lib\wrappers\openssl.nim(192, 19) Error: invalid command line option: '--dynlibOverride' ⏎ FAILURE
10:49:41cheatfatevegansk: https://github.com/cheatfate/wanted
10:51:15FromGitter<vegansk> @cheatfate, not the repo, I mean some example code, I didn't find it in repo
10:52:48FromGitter<zetashift> nvm again missed a step, man I hate compiling on Windows
10:53:26cheatfatevegansk: `wanted` is POC and its example by itself, you can compile it and run it and bench it with `wrk`.
10:55:35FromGitter<vegansk> Ok, thanks
10:59:34Araqping nigredo-tori
11:01:49FromGitter<nigredo-tori> pong
11:03:53Araqoh that was quick
11:04:54Araqhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5147 is killing me
11:05:44Araqany idea how to generate unique hashes for this case?
11:06:02Araqhash the owner's parameters too if the owner is a proc.
11:06:17Araqok, never mind, rubber duck programming works.
11:08:16FromGitter<nigredo-tori> Glad I could be of use ^_^
11:09:17Araqcan I get some link to your work btw? seems like your stuff makes for an excellent extension to my test suite
11:09:33Araqyou found more sighash regressions than anybody else
11:11:10FromGitter<nigredo-tori> I'm sorry, this is not OSS... It's a project that interfaces with some older C++/Qt library, so C++ backend is a necessity.
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12:03:33cheatfateAraq, maybe this helps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree
12:07:46Araqnigredo-tori: ok, no problem, but I like to release 0.16 with signature hashing
12:08:10Araqso you better ensure you reported everything that keeps sighashes from working for your code :-)
12:11:06Araqcheatfate: yeah, that's pretty much what I do
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12:23:02FromGitter<nigredo-tori> @Araq, I'm confident I've reported everything in the project that was broken by the merge. After you fixing larger issues, and me implementing simple workarounds for those that were left, the project works with no visible problems.
12:23:26Araqso it already works?
12:23:55FromGitter<nigredo-tori> Yes.
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12:28:15Araqok, good
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12:44:30dom96Araq: 0.16? Isn't 0.15.4 more appropriate?
12:44:49Araqwe break compatibility
12:49:07dom96ok
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13:44:20dom96https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13276996
14:00:32VladarAm I missing something or it isn't possible to use +=, -=, etc. with getters/setters?
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14:09:43dom96Vladar: You need to define them yourself
14:10:02dom96also hello, haven't seen you in a while :)
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14:19:36VladarHello, dom96. Do you mean "proc `bar+=`(foo: Foo, val: int)"? I looks like not working either.
14:20:26dom96No, like this: http://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#+=,T,T
14:24:13VladarHm, how even to declare it not for a type but for a specific object's hidden field?
14:31:45dom96I don't think you can
14:33:12VladarI though so, thanks for the confirmation
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15:09:02FromGitter<martinium> is there a trim proc to remove whitespace from a string?
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15:11:18Vladarstrutils.strip?
15:12:09FromGitter<martinium> nope that doesn’t work
15:12:30FromGitter<martinium> unless I have to specify whitespace as an argument
15:12:59Vladarthere's Whitespace const as default
15:13:03VladarWhitespace = {' ', '\x09', '\x0B', '\x0D', '\x0A', '\x0C'}
15:19:15FromGitter<martinium> for my purposes using replace proc actually ended up being the way to go
15:52:42FromGitter<martinium> bah still no luck
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16:01:45dom96martinium: what are you trying to do?
16:02:45FromGitter<martinium> @dom96 trying to remove all whitespace from STDIN
16:03:29dom96martinium: just ' ' or newlines as well?
16:03:40FromGitter<martinium> only ‘ '
16:03:47dom96then replace should work well
16:03:51dom96what is the problem with it?
16:04:00FromGitter<martinium> I am probably using it wrong
16:04:06FromGitter<martinium> I am attempting to chain it
16:04:35FromGitter<martinium> ```stockSymbols = readLine(stdin).replace(Whitespace)```
16:05:41FromGitter<martinium> this doesnt work either: ⏎ ⏎ ```stockSymbols = readLine(stdin).replace(' ', ‘')``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=58653454058ca96737a4b190]
16:14:35FromGitter<martinium> I’m noob
16:15:45dom96Do those code snippets compile?
16:15:52dom96They both shouldn't as far as I can see.
16:16:01FromGitter<martinium> no they don't
16:16:06FromGitter<martinium> thats what I am trying to fix
16:16:20dom96stockSymbols = readLine(stdin).replace(" ", "")
16:16:27dom96That should work
16:16:37FromGitter<martinium> think I tried that earlier lemme try it again
16:17:15FromGitter<martinium> it worked -_-
16:17:25FromGitter<martinium> thought I had tried that guess not
16:17:28dom96hehe
16:17:52dom96btw are you writing the same thing in both Crystal and Nim? :)
16:18:00FromGitter<martinium> yeah
16:18:07FromGitter<martinium> learning both simultaneously
16:18:13dom96cool
16:18:34FromGitter<martinium> they are high level enough that one can grasp the differences without too much work
16:18:45FromGitter<martinium> just to get the hang of the languages and how they differ etc
16:19:10FromGitter<martinium> Nim is imperative and works a little different that the OOP Classes in Crystal etc
16:19:37dom96Let me know how it goes. I'm curious how the two compare to someone who is just starting out with both.
16:20:02dom96In any case, there are a couple of overloaded `replace` procedures. Which is a bit confusing.
16:20:16dom96One takes a character (and is more efficient than the others)
16:20:18FromGitter<martinium> that also through me off when reading the docs and source
16:20:21dom96the other takes a string
16:20:26FromGitter<martinium> threw*
16:20:28dom96but you can't have an empty character
16:20:41dom96so you must use the string version
16:20:55FromGitter<martinium> ha
16:21:10FromGitter<martinium> the first part was confusing to me
16:21:16FromGitter<martinium> s, then params
16:21:19FromGitter<martinium> etc
16:21:34FromGitter<martinium> I guess thats for if you use as leading proc
16:21:39FromGitter<martinium> not chained
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16:47:50dom96Yay. Went through Nimble's issue tracker and closed at least 6 issues.
16:48:08dom96And here is the next milestone: https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/milestone/1
16:48:15dom96It's perhaps a bit too ambitious
16:48:29FromGitter<martinium> good work
16:49:28dom96thanks :D
16:50:13FromGitter<martinium> it’s funny because I am still trying to get the crystal version of my program to compile but the nim one was so simple.
16:50:27FromGitter<martinium> was on right track with replace and just needed to tweak my parameters
16:52:18AraqVladar: your getter needs to return a 'var T' for this to work
16:53:05Araqor you make the getter a template.
16:55:59FromGitter<martinium> got it working
16:57:32dom96martinium: :D
16:57:43FromGitter<martinium> :)
16:58:00dom96To be fair, Crystal's nil check enforcement is quite nice
17:00:59FromGitter<martinium> it’s a good thing to avoid hard to debug headaches based on nightmare scenarios I’ve read about online with regards to null values etc
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17:40:30FromGitter<tekjar> @dom96 Any recent thoughts on nimble lock file ? :)
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18:05:55dom96tekjar: won't make it into the next release sadly.
18:06:12dom96although I might reconsider it
18:06:16FromGitter<tekjar> Ohh ok
18:12:32FromGitter<martinium> @dom96 how can I cast parsedJson to a string?
18:18:22Araqj.str
18:18:46FromGitter<martinium> let me try that
18:19:50Araqthat only works if the JSOn is of type "string"
18:19:58FromGitter<martinium> worked perfectly
18:20:10FromGitter<martinium> I was grabbing the value which in fact are strings
18:20:22FromGitter<martinium> so it worked
18:21:43FromGitter<martinium> well the program has an exception but it did compile
18:21:45FromGitter<martinium> lol
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18:25:22dom96for JSON nodes you should use getStr()
18:25:34dom96it supports default values :)
18:27:16Araqso ... finished finish.exe
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18:33:18FromGitter<martinium> @dom96 wil try that instead
18:34:32FromGitter<martinium> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=586557379d4cc4fc5355163c]
18:39:36dom96bbl
18:39:50FromGitter<martinium> later
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19:08:22Araqmartinium: your json value is not an array but you pretend it is
19:08:54FromGitter<martinium> ah
19:09:06FromGitter<martinium> this is code I am converting to Nim for a friend
19:09:08FromGitter<martinium> original code was in python
19:10:44FromGitter<martinium> I was attempting to access the value by selecting the key as variable[“key”]
19:15:19Araqit's really simple: [{"foo": 2}]
19:15:43Araqto access the 2, use j[0]["foo"]
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19:45:16Araqhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/2172 I could disable .procvar for 0.16, but I have no idea what this implies
19:45:29AraqI guess better leave it as it is for now?
19:46:20Araqis https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4893 still an issue? yglukhov ?
19:47:12yglukhovAraq: no idea. might be fixed with recent changes.
19:49:23AraqI'm installing "void linux" and taking a look
19:53:32Araq"missing codepage or helper program, or other error"
19:53:53Araqok, no thanks.
20:57:22yglukhovwhat is max value for float?
20:57:36yglukhovhow do i port Double.MAX_VALUE from java?
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20:59:12VladarI believe it's high(float) for the first question
21:00:24Vladarno, not for float
21:01:37def-pri-pubAraq: I'm not sure if you've been following this thread, but there seems to be some different behavior of the `import` statement on OS X vs. Linux & Windows. http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/2676 Does this look like a bug?
21:03:00Vladaryglukhov, maybe http://nim-lang.org/docs/fenv.html#maximumPositiveValue.t,typedesc[float32] ?
21:04:30yglukhovVladar: indeed, thanks
21:06:14Vladarnp
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21:13:53FromGitter<martinium> would it be overly difficult to port this Julia DataFrames library over to Nim? https://github.com/JuliaStats/DataFrames.jl
21:14:08FromGitter<martinium> I would attempt but I don’t think my skills are there yet
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21:17:07FromGitter<martinium> will probably be my next project
21:17:21Salewskiyglukhov, see https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5039 # maybe +- INF is what you need.
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21:17:58yglukhovSalewski: thanks for the hint
21:19:58SalewskiDom, or any other with access to the forum, there is a very unfriendly posting about Rust. We should better not support Rust bashing I think.
21:21:56SalewskiBye...
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21:22:11FromGitter<martinium> you mean the post from nastyrigger
21:22:13FromGitter<martinium> ?
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22:45:47Araqhmm tough post.
22:48:19Araqthat's why we need moderation for new members
23:01:36FromGitter<Varriount> @martinium What are data frames?
23:02:44FromGitter<Varriount> @Araq Hrm. Personal opinions aside, I do agree that we should keep language bashing on the forum to a minimum.
23:04:08FromGitter<Varriount> Even my attitude towards Rust stems more from envy of its recognition, and less of the actual language.
23:04:21Araqthe choice of words is simply not appropriate.
23:04:56federico3martinium are they similar to Pandas dataframes?
23:05:15FromGitter<martinium> Yes they are
23:05:22FromGitter<martinium> Same data structure
23:06:20FromGitter<martinium> My understanding is that they are arrays that allow null values in addition to multiple dimensions while organizing data into rows and columns with optional headers you can specify
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23:06:55FromGitter<martinium> They were ported over to pandas from the original R lang data.frame structure
23:07:20FromGitter<martinium> Very useful when working with time-series data and statistical data etc
23:08:53FromGitter<martinium> @Araq are there faster methods in Nim than a for loop for iterating through a list of objects?
23:09:29Araqmitems can be faste rhan items since it doesn't produce a conceptual copy
23:09:40Araq*faster than
23:10:02FromGitter<martinium> Those are faster than for loops?
23:10:52Araq'mitems' is an inline iterator, you can only use it in a for loop
23:13:47FromGitter<martinium> Ah nice
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23:13:59FromGitter<martinium> I will attempt to optimize my loop with it
23:14:12FromGitter<martinium> Learning a lot with Nim and loving the sybtax and speed
23:14:17FromGitter<martinium> Best of both worlds.
23:14:30FromGitter<martinium> Hold your head high my friend.
23:14:49Araqoh thanks :-)
23:18:22FromGitter<martinium> :-)
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