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00:05:52FromDiscord<evoalg> :w
00:05:57FromDiscord<evoalg> whoops
00:07:45FromDiscord<evoalg> @ElegantBeef I think this can be done all in a for loop using slicerator? ... https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JRG
00:11:10FromDiscord<evoalg> (and my code is not optimized)
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01:17:04FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> Trying to run a Pixie example, from Nimble download folder. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925557997978132520/unknown.png
01:18:20FromDiscord<Yardanico> maybe that demo no longer works, not sure
01:18:29FromDiscord<Yardanico> also, it's better to test demos by copying the code to your own folder
01:18:34FromDiscord<Yardanico> and not running the code straight from the .nimble folder
01:19:47FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @Yardanico "also, it's better to": same error
01:19:59FromDiscord<Yardanico> yeah I didn't say that would fix it, but it's generally what you should do anyway
01:20:07FromDiscord<Yardanico> looks just like it wasn't tested after some changes in pixie
01:20:11FromDiscord<Yardanico> or maybe it's missing an import
01:20:23FromDiscord<Yardanico> that code shows using pixie with GL and not standalone though, there are a lot of tests you can look at
01:23:02FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> I even downloaded the GIT folder for Pixie and placed it in the Nim folder, running those examples gave many errors https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925559503523565599/unknown.png
01:24:07FromDiscord<Yardanico> What errors for example?
01:24:30FromDiscord<Yardanico> It's really hard to help with just folder images, it's much better if you always provide the error message
01:25:06FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @Yardanico "It's really hard to": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925560023847927848/unknown.png
01:25:28FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> I'm not sure what I'm missing -
01:25:45FromDiscord<Yardanico> as the error says it can't find the image
01:25:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> because you're supposed to execute this test outside the examples directory
01:26:10FromDiscord<Yardanico> you're supposed to execute it from the main directory of pixie (so in your case pixie-master)
01:26:36FromDiscord<Yardanico> so you need to switch to that directory first
01:28:16FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @Yardanico "you're supposed to execute": thanks, will try
01:30:07FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @Yardanico "you're supposed to execute": It built successfully, thanks for the help
01:38:52FromDiscord<dizzyliam> is there a way to set global compiler flags so you can compile with tcc by default?
01:42:04FromDiscord<demotomohiro> https://nim-lang.org/docs/nims.html
01:48:56FromDiscord<dizzyliam> oop missed point one
01:48:57FromDiscord<dizzyliam> thanks
01:56:17FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @TheDarkMode "It built successfully, thanks": they actually do stuff though
01:56:26FromDiscord<Yardanico> as you see in the code they write to an image
01:56:46FromDiscord<Yardanico> it's just that pixie already has those made in its repo for testing
01:56:56FromDiscord<Yardanico> try deleting examples/gradient.png and rerunning this program
02:30:04FromDiscord<retkid> so how stable is the inline asm?
02:30:39FromDiscord<retkid> anyone here use it?
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02:50:31FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @retkid "so how stable is": it's literally just inline asm, what can be "stable" or not "stable" about it?
02:50:41FromDiscord<Yardanico> sure there are nim projects that use it, just search for asm in code
02:51:43FromDiscord<retkid> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925581820488196146/unknown.png
02:52:46FromDiscord<retkid> unsafe can have multiple meanings. Pretty sure it just means evaluated but it can have other meanings
02:52:57FromDiscord<retkid> (edit) "evaluated" => "not-evaluated"
03:03:38NimEventerNew thread by Tmsa04: Would the Nim version number be helpful in deprecation documentation?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8750
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03:29:57FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @retkid "unsafe can have multiple": no? unsafe here literally means "not safe", same as cast or raw pointers
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04:07:32nrds<Prestige99> Is there a roadmap for concepts 2.0 or is that getting scrapped?
04:07:35FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @TheDarkMode "Trying to run a": You appear to have older version of staticglfw
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04:08:12FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @TheDarkMode "It built successfully, thanks": You need to run it from the root folder
04:08:25FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @TheDarkMode "It built successfully, thanks": Do you still have issues?
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04:46:51FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @treeform "You appear to have": how do I correct that? I appreciate the reply
04:49:15FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @treeform "Do you still have": realtime.glfw seems to be the only real time example that works
04:55:38FromDiscord<TheDarkMode> In reply to @treeform "Do you still have": The first Error: I deleted the shadow.png file, as was suggested earlier today. The second error shows something went wrong in pixie (what that is Idk) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925613008061857902/unknown.png
05:38:07FromDiscord<valerga> "Gnu already announced they're rewriting gcc with it"
05:38:11FromDiscord<valerga> I'm assuming this is not true
05:38:22FromDiscord<valerga> with nim
05:47:44FromDiscord<evoalg> ls
05:51:49FromDiscord<Rika> Of course it is not
05:56:42FromDiscord<treeform> In reply to @TheDarkMode "The first Error: I": Its trying to write to example folder, do you have an example folder on your path
05:56:52FromDiscord<treeform> is it writable
05:57:07FromDiscord<treeform> your last line says you are in `C:\>`
05:57:20FromDiscord<treeform> and not in the `pixie-master` folder
05:57:33FromDiscord<treeform> if you cd to the `pixie-master` it should work
05:58:00FromDiscord<treeform> it will also work if you create `C:\examples` folder but I don't recommend it.
05:58:33FromDiscord<treeform> instead of running this:
05:58:34FromDiscord<treeform> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925628839751712768/unknown.png
05:58:47FromDiscord<treeform> you should cd to the last pixie-master folder
05:59:04FromDiscord<treeform> and run `nim c -r examples/shadow.nim`
05:59:13FromDiscord<treeform> that's what we do
08:53:47NimEventerNew thread by Domogled: Enum in macro, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8752
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09:28:56FromDiscord<konsumlamm> In reply to @nrds "<Prestige> Is there a": Prestige: they're on the roadmap (https://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/437) under stretch goals for 2.x
10:17:20FromDiscord<hmmm> Erorr: expected 'except' 🤔
10:17:57FromDiscord<hmmm> why is it expecting except when I want to use it some lines later?
10:18:07FromDiscord<hmmm> very suspect
10:18:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Code is wonderful
10:18:26FromDiscord<hmmm> not helpful beefy 😃
10:18:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm asking for the code
10:18:54FromDiscord<hmmm> there is no code is a proc of 3 lines with parseint lol
10:19:35FromDiscord<hmmm> okok I see if I can clean it up
10:31:19FromDiscord<konsumlamm> just posting error messages without code isn't helpful
10:31:21FromDiscord<konsumlamm> remember, we can't read your mind
10:31:45FromDiscord<hmmm> you shouldn't want to, my mind is not pretty lol
10:32:02FromDiscord<hmmm> I had a mini snag, but code is coming in all it's glorious 5 lines
10:32:51FromDiscord<haxscramper> the code is simple, just one line
10:32:55FromDiscord<haxscramper> and 10k coumns
10:32:57FromDiscord<haxscramper> (edit) "coumns" => "columns"
10:34:06FromDiscord<haxscramper> I think there was a 17-char snippet that crashed the compiler
10:34:39FromDiscord<hmmm> tadann
10:34:39FromDiscord<hmmm> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JUF
10:36:37FromDiscord<haxscramper> As usual, adding imports helps .., and I'm not sure if indentation is correct in the first place
10:37:11FromDiscord<konsumlamm> the `else` should have the same indentation as the corresponding `if`
10:38:03FromDiscord<haxscramper> `readLine(stdin))` is unclosed
10:38:11FromDiscord<hmmm> ha!
10:38:13FromDiscord<haxscramper> or rather, `))` excessively closes
10:38:38FromDiscord<haxscramper> `var more = readLine(stdin))`
10:38:40FromDiscord<hmmm> I think it's right
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10:38:46FromDiscord<hmmm> except had nothing to do with it
10:39:36FromDiscord<hmmm> ty 😋
10:39:45FromDiscord<konsumlamm> at least if you use VS code (or any editor with error highlighting) it should point to the unopened )
10:40:01FromDiscord<hmmm> I'm using ST
10:40:08FromDiscord<hmmm> not pointing anything sadl
10:42:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can also always use `nim check` if super lost or pass `--errorMax:0`
10:43:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JUL
10:46:34FromDiscord<geekrelief> VS Code also has colored brackets https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2021/09/29/bracket-pair-colorization
10:47:52FromDiscord<hmmm> wa nimcheck would be nice to have to run on save, need to see if the ancient ST extension has the option
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12:22:21FromDiscord<qb> Who has access to https://github.com/nim-lang/opengl/blob/master/src/opengl/glut.nim?
12:22:26FromDiscord<qb> (edit) "https://github.com/nim-lang/opengl/blob/master/src/opengl/glut.nim?" => "https://github.com/nim-lang/opengl/blob/master/src/opengl/glut.nim ?"
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13:42:03FromDiscord<Shiba> In reply to @Yardanico "https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/19041#issuec": weird tcc says "dl libary not found" and "m libary not found"
13:48:40FromDiscord<Shiba> it turns out that the sorting of arguments passed to the nim colmpiler matters
13:55:23FromDiscord<Shiba> but now i have new errors
13:55:39FromDiscord<Rika> Which is
14:18:57FromDiscord<Shiba> it's a tcc specific or maybe another issue with float32
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15:31:32FromDiscord<retkid> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3JWG
15:37:45FromDiscord<konsumlamm> i think they were just confused because you said that unsafe can mean not-evaluated, which makes no sense
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15:40:16FromDiscord<retkid> In reply to @Yardanico "it's literally just inline": well he also said this
15:41:03FromDiscord<retkid> in a very specific tone
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15:42:16FromDiscord<konsumlamm> again, i think it's just confusion about what you mean
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15:42:38FromDiscord<retkid> alrighty then
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16:03:13FromDiscord<Fish-Face> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JWU
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16:06:49FromDiscord<konsumlamm> it should
16:07:03FromDiscord<konsumlamm> looks like you're simply not adding that value
16:07:22FromDiscord<konsumlamm> besides, are you sure that you need a linked list and not just a `seq`?
16:08:05FromDiscord<Fish-Face> this is an experiment to see if that is the case 😛
16:08:25FromDiscord<Fish-Face> it is for aoc, so experimenting to find optimal data structures
16:09:51FromDiscord<Fish-Face> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JWX
16:10:34FromDiscord<Fish-Face> there is other stuff that is `add`ing stuff to the list. Is there any dodgy state of the list I can check for?
16:11:42NimEventerNew thread by Hobbyman: JSON - how to edit Jarrays (amongst others), see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8753
16:14:49FromDiscord<konsumlamm> In reply to @Fish-Face "the actual code is:": do you have a small reproducible example that you can share (preferably through the nim plaground)?
16:15:14FromDiscord<Fish-Face> I have not attempted to reduce my case yet
16:15:45FromDiscord<Fish-Face> for now a confirmation that there is at least not something obviously wrong with that snippet is useful
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16:20:58FromDiscord<konsumlamm> i don't know your full code, so it's hard to say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:25:12FromDiscord<Fish-Face> yeah I will try to put something sensible together
16:26:16FromDiscord<Fish-Face> something screwy is definitely going on - as I modify the `echo` above I can get things to segfault - or not, but not on the line I'm changing.
16:28:31FromDiscord<hmmm> what was the magick invocation for default param? proc thingy(x : int = 10) ?
16:29:56FromDiscord<hmmm> yea it works
16:30:41FromDiscord<Fish-Face> looks like `list.tail` is getting changed, but `list.head.next` is still `nil` (for the case where this breaks on a length-one list)
16:35:19FromDiscord<Fish-Face> OK I think the problem is if you add an empty list
16:37:11FromDiscord<Fish-Face> `a.add(b)` where `b.head == nil` results in the old tail of `a` having `next==nil`, but now `a.tail` is different
16:40:42FromDiscord<Fish-Face> @konsumlamm https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JX3
16:41:18FromDiscord<Fish-Face> If it doesn't off with at least one element, the bug doesn't exist
16:43:17FromDiscord<Shiba> ok so iam getting errors of "not found files" of my project after i put --cpu:i386
16:43:50FromDiscord<Shiba> (edit) "ok so iam getting errors ... of" added "in the exe"
16:43:57FromDiscord<Shiba> and it's wont compile if ididn't add that argument
16:47:55FromDiscord<Fish-Face> @konsumlamm I tried to add in stuff to print the addresses but the playground gave me a link to something completely different and I couldn't get back to that so whatever XD
17:01:53FromDiscord<hmmm> yo what were the rules for breaking up code too large to fit screen
17:03:37FromDiscord<Solitude> zoom out
17:04:04FromDiscord<hmmm> ha!
17:06:14FromDiscord<hmmm> I can't zoom out, I'm a boomer
17:07:27FromDiscord<Shiba> does 32 bit build affect file reading and accesing directories
17:15:37FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @Shiba "does 32 bit build": I'm curious what's your OS and hardware? I recall you mentioned you're on a Pentium. Are you mixing 32-bit/64-bit applications?
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17:17:21FromDiscord<Shiba> iam using windows 64 bit
17:19:12FromDiscord<geekrelief> ah ok my mistake. I thought Pentium's were only 32 bit
17:26:27FromDiscord<Shiba> it's always generates a .exe in nimcached and complains about not findind the other parts of my projects
17:28:31FromDiscord<geekrelief> what command are you running?
17:42:19FromDiscord<QueenFuckingAdrielle> Has anyone had any luck inlining nvidia ptx into nim?
17:45:08FromDiscord<Shiba> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JXx
17:51:57FromDiscord<geekrelief> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JXA
17:52:00FromDiscord<Require Support> This is probably written somewhere but do I need to do anything to use a global var within a proc?
17:52:02FromDiscord<Shiba> ??
17:52:20FromDiscord<geekrelief> `-r` runs your program. If you want the output, remove that
17:52:33FromDiscord<geekrelief> I mean the executable
17:53:04FromDiscord<Shiba> but it's outputs it in nimcahe
17:53:16FromDiscord<geekrelief> that's what you want?
17:53:37FromDiscord<Shiba> no like can you change the out directory
17:54:03FromDiscord<Shiba> (edit) "out" => "output"
17:54:21FromDiscord<geekrelief> I'm not sure what you're saying
17:55:44FromDiscord<geekrelief> What's the `F:/slurp` for?
17:58:40FromDiscord<Shiba> i tried to change the path of the executable
17:59:14FromDiscord<geekrelief> don't you need `--outdir` for that?
17:59:54FromDiscord<Shiba> ok thanks
18:00:10NimEventerNew Nimble package! preprod - preprod, see https://github.com/j-a-s-d/preprod
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18:09:14FromDiscord<Shiba> @geekrelief one more issue , so my nim scripts reads some filles like pngs , but the exe returns and error ofn not found , is that related to the cpu type
18:09:25FromDiscord<Shiba> (edit) "filles" => "files"
18:09:33FromDiscord<Shiba> (edit) "and" => "an"
18:09:42FromDiscord<Shiba> (edit) "ofn" => "of"
18:09:58FromDiscord<geekrelief> What's the error? I doubt it's related to your cpu type
18:11:32FromDiscord<konsumlamm> @Fish-Face that looks like a bug, you should open an issue on github
18:11:56FromDiscord<Shiba> In reply to @geekrelief "What's the error? I": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/925813398615232522/Capture.PNG
18:11:57FromDiscord<konsumlamm> btw, you don't need the `.toSeq` to convert it to a readable form, you can just print linked lists directly
18:12:11NimEventerNew Nimble package! honeycomb - A dead simple, no-nonsense parser combinator library written in pure Nim., see https://github.com/KatrinaKitten/honeycomb
18:12:48FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @Shiba "": your path is messed up
18:12:57FromDiscord<Shiba> ?
18:13:29FromDiscord<geekrelief> you're specifying `F:\slurp\assets` twicw
18:13:31FromDiscord<geekrelief> (edit) "twicw" => "twice"
18:14:00FromDiscord<geekrelief> post your code
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18:21:47FromDiscord<Shiba> fixed thanks again
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18:24:06FromDiscord<geekrelief> @KatrinaKitten Nice work on honeycomb! I was just look at https://github.com/zevv/npeg. I guess this would be a good competitor?
18:25:56FromDiscord<Rosen> Was about to say, honeycomb looks sweet
18:26:19FromDiscord<geekrelief> yeah, I'm totally going to use it for my level prototyping
18:27:08FromDiscord<geekrelief> @haxscramper honeycomb looks like a good addition for this https://gist.github.com/haxscramper/3562fa8fee4726d7a30a013a37977df6 And thanks for writing that up!
18:28:07FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> I wasn't aware npeg existed, it looks excellent 🙂 I think the goals of the two are slightly different though, npeg looks like a good option if you're already familiar with PEG syntax and want to convert it directly to Nim, where Honeycomb is aimed at providing a bit more of a high level API by comparison rather than a true DSL.
18:28:50FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @KatrinaKitten "I wasn't aware npeg": I don't blame you. I only found out about npeg 2 days/yesterday ago? 🙂
18:28:54FromDiscord<haxscramper> In reply to @geekrelief "<@!608382355454951435> honeycomb looks like": added
18:30:59FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> I will say that if you're familiar with the Parsy library for Python, Honeycomb should feel very familiar, as that's the library I learned parser combinators through and I heavily mimicked the general design principles there.
18:31:40FromDiscord<geekrelief> I've only used parser combinators with Haskell a decade ago. I sorta recall liking them more than dealing with grammars 🙂
18:34:41FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> PEG-based grammars in particular can be one to one converted to and from typical parser combinators if I'm not mistaken, but the implementation isn't necessarily quite the same. It's definitely nice to be able to kind of hack things together in the language you're writing though, rather than being stuck in the tighter featureset of a dedicated syntax or DSL.
18:35:00FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> (edit) "PEG-based grammars in particular can be one to one converted to and from typical parser combinators if I'm not mistaken, but the implementation isn't necessarily quite the same. It's definitely nice to be able to kind of hack things together in the language you're writing though, rather than being stuck in the tighter featureset of a dedicated syntax or ... DSL." added "true"
18:35:53FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> The biggest thing I wanted to achieve with Honeycomb was keeping it simple and straightforward, which grammar based libraries often can't be.
18:36:06FromDiscord<geekrelief> Yeah, the more familiar syntax is the immediate appeal. I'll definitely try out honeycomb first over npeg when I get around to it.
18:36:43FromDiscord<geekrelief> I wish there was something like parser combinators for writing macros. 🙂
18:37:11FromDiscord<geekrelief> (edit) "writing" => "dealing with"
18:37:29FromDiscord<haxscramper> dealing as in wrigin?
18:37:33FromDiscord<haxscramper> (edit) "wrigin?" => "writing?"
18:37:41FromDiscord<haxscramper> or dealing as in unparsing the AST into data?
18:38:03FromDiscord<geekrelief> I'm writing a DSL that generates inline nim code
18:38:33FromDiscord<geekrelief> https://github.com/geekrelief/genit so right now I'm just doing a simple replacement for this
18:38:45FromDiscord<haxscramper> depending on the complexity of the transform it might be possible to implement declarative AST-AST rewritign
18:39:01FromDiscord<geekrelief> but I've been working on writing a parser so I can extend it's functionality
18:39:12FromDiscord<geekrelief> (edit) "it's" => "its"
18:39:23FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> I think I saw a library floating around somewhere that supports pattern matching over ASTs in macros, if that floats your boat. Not quite the same, but.
18:39:41FromDiscord<geekrelief> probably PMunch's macroutils?
18:40:11FromDiscord<geekrelief> I was looking over that again today, but it's not quite what I'm looking for
18:40:20FromDiscord<haxscramper> for pattern matching it is `fusion/matching` or some other
18:40:29FromDiscord<Solitude> ast_pattern_matching
18:40:33FromDiscord<haxscramper> for `quote do` inverse it is a PMunch's macroutils
18:40:38FromDiscord<haxscramper> also gara/patty
18:40:47FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Might have been either, I don't recall offhand. I'm quite new to Nim and ran across it while researching the language.
18:42:13FromDiscord<geekrelief> oh is this it? https://github.com/krux02/ast-pattern-matching
18:44:03FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3JY0
18:45:42FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @KatrinaKitten "The one thing I": No worries. It's clearly early days for the library. Thanks for putting it together. I have quite a bit on my plate, but the idea of a having a parser combiinator library for Nim's AST is enticing me.
18:46:43FromDiscord<geekrelief> I'm daydreaming about forking honeycomb to tease it apart to see how to go about doing that.
18:48:10FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Feel free, contributions are more than welcome 🙂 (with the caveat I might steal your idea, implement it my way, and credit you instead of merging, but that's just me being weird and picky about things lol)
18:50:57FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @KatrinaKitten "Feel free, contributions are": sounds good, I don't mind my PRs being rejected as long as the idea is incorporated. 🙂
18:51:39FromDiscord<geekrelief> I'll probably take a closer look at gara too. That might work for me.
18:53:59Zevvhola, what/where is honeycomb?
18:54:33FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @Zevv "hola, what/where is honeycomb?": https://github.com/KatrinaKitten/honeycomb
18:54:43Zevvtakk
18:57:46Zevvnice
19:02:43FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> The most ironic thing about this entire project has been the fact that, unlike what my naming sense would imply, I'm actually terrified of bees XD
19:02:48FromDiscord<geekrelief> I forgot I had this bookmarked https://nim-lang.org/blog/2021/03/10/fusion-and-pattern-matching.html @haxscramper thx again!
19:03:26ZevvKatrinaKitten: cmon, bees are your buddies
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19:03:34FromDiscord<geekrelief> In reply to @KatrinaKitten "The most ironic thing": some childhood trauma?
19:04:23FromDiscord<geekrelief> When I was a kid, I drank a coke during a picnic and was stung. A bee flew out of the can.
19:04:44FromDiscord<geekrelief> I hold no grudges against bees.
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19:08:17FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> I got stung by a yellow jacket for doing nothing at all when I was about 8, haven't been able to stand anything beelike since. I don't hate bumbles and the like, they're friendly enough, but I have a visceral phobic reaction to them regardless.
19:10:23FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> But hey, the pun for Honeycomb was too good to pass up XD
19:12:23FromDiscord<geekrelief> Also works cause the imagery is of cells packed neatly together.
19:12:59FromDiscord<geekrelief> break off one chunk and it's still recognizable
19:15:51FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Aye
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20:16:23noeontheendKatrinaKitten: I know I'm late to the party, but nice job with Honeycomb! I'd be impressed if it came from a Nim veteran, let alone someone just starting with the language.
20:18:11FromDiscord<hmmm> honeycomb looks great! what does the first line do btw
20:18:16FromDiscord<hmmm> parser = ((s("Hello") | s("Greetings")) << c(',') << whitespace) & (regex(r"\w+") << c("!."))
20:18:47FromDiscord<Rika> Make a parser?
20:19:04FromDiscord<hmmm> yea but explain to peasants like mere in more detail
20:19:37FromDiscord<Rika> I don’t have the time so hopefully the other does
20:20:08FromDiscord<hmmm> rika u bad boi, you always have time for hmm
20:21:23FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3JYn
20:22:07FromDiscord<hmmm> 👀
20:22:32FromDiscord<hmmm> it sure looks like more readable than regex
20:22:59FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> It's 100% overkill for most things a simple regex would do 😅
20:23:00FromDiscord<Rika> Depends on you I guess
20:23:06FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> But, it is quite simple to work with once you're familiar with it.
20:23:11FromDiscord<Rika> When you hit some sort of regex proficiency…
20:23:29FromDiscord<hmmm> 😅
20:24:21FromDiscord<hmmm> Kat do you have a simple example of things people do with something like honeycomb / like blogpost etc
20:25:04FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> The repo's readme has a few articles about the subject, though in particular I'd recommend Computerphile's video on the topic 🙂↵https://github.com/KatrinaKitten/honeycomb
20:25:12FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> (edit) "🙂↵https://github.com/KatrinaKitten/honeycomb" => "🙂↵https://github.com/KatrinaKitten/honeycomb↵https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtZLm7HIJs"
20:26:00FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> As for more "list of use cases" type examples, I recently participated in a programming language jam (like a game jam) and used parser combinators in my implementation.
20:26:45FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Any time you have a complex parsing job to do, and nanosecond performance isn't as much of a concern as simplicity for the dev, parser combinators are a good option to consider.
20:28:13FromDiscord<Rika> If you’re smart in designing them you can still get good performance
20:28:46FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Definitely, it just tends to be a little less unless you have some internal transformation / optimization. Lots and lots of recursive nested function calls.
20:29:22FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> Not nearly so huge a difference that it will matter for most use cases.
20:34:03FromDiscord<hmmm> if c matches a single char what does the dot do in c("!."))
20:34:40FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> When passed a `char`, it matches just that character. When passed a `string` or `Slice[char]`, it matches any character from the string/slice.
20:35:13FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> So in the case of `c("!.")`, it matches either a `!` or a `.`.
20:35:19FromDiscord<hmmm> oh!
20:42:06FromDiscord<hmmm> kat kat but how does it happen that the things we match in c(',') << whitespace are not showing in the final seq (last dumb question I promise lol)
20:43:01FromDiscord<krisppurg> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JYu
20:45:41FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> In reply to @hmmm "kat kat but how": `<<` is the same as `&` in that it expects the parsers one after the other, but it only keeps the result of what's on the left-hand side, instead of both as a `seq`. There's also `>>` which only keeps the result of what's on the right-hand side - think of it as it points to what gets kept. Since the `c(',') << whitespace` is connected to the `s("Hello") | s("Greetings")` via `<<`, only the resu
20:46:16FromDiscord<hmmm> this is genius lol
20:46:21FromDiscord<hmmm> ty kat!
20:46:44FromDiscord<KatrinaKitten> (Actually it really goes more like `(strings << comma) << whitespace` rather than `strings << (comma << whitespace)`, but the result is the same 🙂 )
20:51:28FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3JYx
20:52:30FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> In C++ that’s done with the keyword “using”
20:53:05FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> using function1 = NTSTATUS(NTAPI)(HANDLE ProcessHandle, PVOID BaseAddress, ULONG_PTR ZeroBits, PULONG RegionSize, ULONG AllocationType, ULONG Protect);↵For example
20:53:24FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @SecureThisShit "Hey, I got a": `typeof function1`
20:55:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @krisppurg\: there is no `kind` field, it doesnt infer kind
20:55:02FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> And function1 is still defined like↵↵proc function1(parameters): returnvalue
20:55:06FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> ?
20:55:30FromDiscord<krisppurg> In reply to @Elegantbeef "<@222794789567987712>\: there is no": I've added the rename hook already
20:57:30FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @SecureThisShit "And function1 is still": thats depends on you. if it is - use typeof. if you defined it as a type - dont.
21:02:47FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @Elegantbeef "<@222794789567987712>\: there is no": it shouldnt require the kind
21:13:13FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @krisppurg "Hi, whenever I do": but if it wouldnt require discriminator it would fail with FieldDefect instead of JsonError with wrong payload. so, i guess some logic has to be added for parsing only fields from current/default variant branch.
21:17:35FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @krisppurg "I've added the rename": can you test if it works with this check disabled? https://github.com/treeform/jsony/blob/11df6999829a0fa51af353182d35613c9afbf39f/src/jsony.nim#L422
21:18:08FromDiscord<krisppurg> nvm I realised I put renameHook in wrong order, it was in bottom of renameHook
21:18:09FromDiscord<Solitude> fieldPairs should already be guarding from wrong field access
21:18:15FromDiscord<krisppurg> (edit) "renameHook" => "newGuildChannel"
21:19:53FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JYC
21:20:53FromDiscord<Solitude> `type function1 = proc(ProcessHandle: PHANDLE): NTSTATUS`
21:21:32FromDiscord<Solitude> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-procedural-type
21:26:20FromDiscord<SecureThisShit> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JYE
21:26:52FromDiscord<Solitude> i dont get the point of casting the value twice
21:27:53FromDiscord<Solitude> and i for sure dont get what corresponding cpp line does, so we wait for someone more knowledgable
21:28:52NimEventerNew thread by Shirleyquirk: Unicode Operators: How Do we Choose Which To Include?, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8754
21:37:12FromDiscord<kaddkaka> https://nim-by-example.github.io/procvars/ mentions do notation as being "a bit shorter". But surely there must something else to it than just saving 1 character 😆
21:37:35FromDiscord<kaddkaka> (edit) "do" => "`do`" | "shorter"." => "shorter" than `proc`."
21:38:36FromDiscord<kaddkaka> (edit) "character" => "character?"
21:42:37FromDiscord<Solitude> In reply to @kaddkaka "https://nim-by-example.github.io/procvars/ mentions": https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual_experimental.html#do-notation↵you can pass multiple blocks of code to macro with it
21:47:39FromDiscord<kaddkaka> thanks I have to get to macros 🙂 (newbie here 🙋‍♂️)
21:53:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> @evoalg\: eh a normal for loop is sufficient for that, store the last three entries and you're golden
21:54:17FromDiscord<evoalg> ahh ok that's makes sense
21:54:49FromDiscord<evoalg> How are your dogs btw?
21:55:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cold been like -40 and below for the past few weeks
21:57:01FromDiscord<evoalg> woah ... oh that's not celsius ... my wife is from Siberia and it get's to -40 celsius 😉
21:57:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm Canadian bud
21:57:42FromDiscord<evoalg> still too bloody cold for a kiwi
21:57:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> -40 is the same in Fahrenheit as Celsius, but i do use centigrade
21:58:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I was trying to point out that it was Celsius 😛
21:59:18FromDiscord<ynfle (ynfle)> > Canadian bud↵I see what you did there
21:59:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Lol
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22:07:41FromDiscord<evoalg> ahh of course it's the same ... oh and I should have known that Canada is more progressive in this regard than the US ... but is it really -40 there?
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22:11:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes
22:21:56PMunchEvening @Elegantbeef :)
22:23:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hello
22:32:33FromDiscord<kaddkaka> Southern Sweden is back to plus celsius tomorrow, bye bye snow 😦 👋
22:33:16FromDiscord<hugogranstrom> In reply to @kaddkaka "Southern Sweden is back": 😦 It was a white christmas for us at least
22:52:34PMunchHere it's still -9 and loads of snow..
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23:13:24FromDiscord<tandy> can the nim compiler itself be compiled to c?
23:13:57FromDiscord<tandy> im jus wondering whether u could have the compiler compiled to wasm
23:18:31NimEventerNew Nimble package! nimfmt - Configurable Nim code linter / formatter / style checker with heuristics, see https://github.com/FedericoCeratto/nimfmt
23:25:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://www.jasonbeetham.com/snake/nicoscripter.html the VM can compile! 🙂
23:26:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Compiling the compiler doesnt make much since since you also need a C compiler built for wasm, but it's probably doable
23:36:33FromDiscord<tandy> ohh this is coool
23:36:43FromDiscord<tandy> so you can write and compile nim in the browser
23:37:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well you can write and evaluate nim
23:37:07FromDiscord<tandy> someone needs to integrate that into browser vscode
23:37:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's on the Nim vm not the compiler
23:37:18FromDiscord<tandy> close enough \:)
23:40:10FromDiscord<frankzig> hallo, I've got an iterator for a custom type, is there a way to raise a compilerror if a `when` clause fails'
23:40:18FromDiscord<frankzig> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JZk
23:40:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3JZl
23:40:58FromDiscord<frankzig> thankyou!
23:49:53FromDiscord<dizzyliam> thinking of using nimscript as a kind of markup language for typesetting... let
23:49:59FromDiscord<dizzyliam> (edit) "let" => "let's see how this goes"
23:50:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you need help i know a guy
23:54:07FromDiscord<dizzyliam> haha, someone else who's twisted nimscript into markup?
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23:55:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No someone that knows how to easily interop
23:56:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont know if you've seen https://github.com/beef331/nimscripter but it pretty much makes it seemless
23:58:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Thanks to Nim's macro magic and command syntax it really doesnt take much to make it seem like a MD language
23:58:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or MU if you prefet 😛
23:58:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> prefer\