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00:28:07reactormonkbtw, just a FAILURE isn't very helpful. How do I find out which test failed?
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03:05:58Kenny__So, am I supposed to have to explicitly dereference a PType when trying to call a procedure that takes a TType?
03:06:49Kenny__Or is this a compiler error.
03:07:22Kenny__Because the specs say it's highly discouraged, yet I just came across an error when I try to compile that says:
03:07:41Kenny__"type mismatch: got (PStateManager) but expected one of: System.Quit(this: TStateManager)"
03:07:49Kenny__Until I dereference with []
03:10:43Kenny__The exact context:
03:10:55Kenny__method Init(this: PState, manager: PStateManager): bool =
03:11:10Kenny__ this.Manager[].Quit()
03:11:13Kenny__ return false
03:35:16fowlhey
03:35:24fowlone second while i read
03:35:52fowlKenny__, at the moment, yes
03:36:17fowlautomatic dereferencing is coming though
03:39:55fowli would change quit() to take PStateManager, having some of your api use P* and some T* is confusing
03:41:49Kenny__Ah, well that's fine.
03:41:54Kenny__It's easy to work around, like you said.
03:42:37fowloften when wokring with an object like a manager i will use T* and pass as var T*
03:42:38Kenny__Thank you very much, though! I was actually in the process of changing it to use P*
03:43:32Kenny__I was passing it as a var T* through it's own procedures, but I need every state to store a reference to the manager for message passing purposes and such
03:44:06fowlalso i have heard an error from naming your module system, but i think you can do this if you put it in a different dir like lib and do import lib/system
03:45:33Kenny__Oh no when dereferenced or as a P, it compiles just fine. The error report is just a little funky and thinks Quit() belongs to the System. I don't have that problem with any of my other procedures or methods though, so it's not a big deal.
03:45:52Kenny__Is it worthy of throwing on the Issue board though?
03:46:48fowlno, the error is because currently there is no automatic dereference, it expects TObj but you give it ref TObj
03:47:57fowlKenny__, what are you using for graphics, opengl?
03:48:56Kenny__Oh no, I was talking about the fact that the compiler reports an error coming from System.Quit() and not TStateManager.Quit(). I now know that the compiler doesn't (currently) auto deref pointer types.
03:49:06Kenny__And yes, I'm using the Standard Library OpenGL wrapper
03:53:28fowlKenny__, whats the file name where your quit() is defined, is it system?
03:53:38Kenny__Nope, local/States.nim
03:54:11fowloh ok then yes that looks like an error
03:54:48Kenny__Shall I put it up on the issue board, then? Make sure he knows about it.
03:55:29tangentstormok.. how'd i do?
03:55:32tangentstormhttp://i.imgur.com/kSNYstB.png
03:56:01fowlKenny__, can you past the whole error message because i get soemthing that looks different
03:56:04fowlgist.github.com
03:56:48Kenny__local/States.nim(153, 17) Error: type mismatch: got (TStateManager) but expected one of: States.Quit(this: PStateManager) system.quit(errormsg: string, errorcode: int) system.quit(errorcode: int)
03:57:47Kenny__Both procedures reside in the same file "local/States.nim" The Quit procedure had to be forward declared.
03:58:05Kenny__It explicitly states {.noReturn.}
03:58:16Kenny__Oh, and it's exported.
03:58:28fowler you said it reported system.quit(this: pstatemanager)
03:58:43fowl this is no error, what you see is the fully qualified name, module.function(args)
03:58:47Kenny__Oh, and Tangent, you did great!
03:59:48Kenny__Woah, wait a second, that's not right.
04:00:47Kenny__Crap, I can't find it anymore. It's buried in terminal output.
04:01:19Kenny__The error I was talking about said "System.Quit(this: PStateManager)".
04:01:29Kenny__I'll try to replicate it, if I can't I guess I'm just crazy.
04:03:38fowltangentstorm, http://build.nimrod-code.org/docs/terminal.html :)
04:04:22Kenny__^^^^ Is there NOTHING the STD has?
04:04:36Kenny__hasn't got*
04:05:04tangentstormfowl: nice. is that cross-platform then? like in the windows console?
04:05:40*tangentstorm learns to read.
04:05:41fowlsays so
04:05:42tangentstormnice :)
04:07:58Kenny__That'll save me a lot of time. I usually have to write a library like that for myself. And usually I only have the motivation to make it *Nix-only.
04:08:43fowlKenny__, if you can abstract out some window management stuff for opengl you totally should. I've been meaning to work on a high-level sfml-like library
04:10:05Kenny__Honestly I have no clue what I'm doing at the moment.
04:10:14Kenny__Reading a book: http://www.arcsynthesis.org/
04:10:38Kenny__I usually just stick to SFML, but I decided to finally learn what I'm doing.
04:10:47fowlword :D
04:10:51tangentstormshort boko
04:10:53tangentstormbook
04:11:28Kenny__But when I'm done, I'll see what I can do!
04:12:09fowli did the same thing, learned basic x11 window management and event handling from tutorials but i havent used it in a while so id have to relearn
04:14:19Kenny__I just hate it when I learn something like X11 management just to go just long enough without using it to forget it when I need it.
04:15:16Kenny__What kind of window management stuff were you thinking though?
04:15:35Kenny__Don't we already have CSFML bindings, some GLFW bindings, GLUT, SDL, and Cairo?
04:15:52fowlyea, bindings for days but nothing native
04:16:28Kenny__Oh, I getchya! I can do that for sure!
04:16:56fowlbasic window creation, gl context creation, event handling (take events from X/windows/os x) can quickly evolve into a full-blown engine (or be reused by one)
04:17:08fowlbtw are you using the gl module or opengl
04:17:12Kenny__openGL
04:17:17fowlcool good
04:17:40Kenny__Yeah, I decided it was best to learn the programmable pipeline over fixed pipeline
04:18:04Kenny__However, since I'm rusty with my X and I'm just learning GL & Nimrod, give me a bit before I take on such a big project.
04:18:21fowlfo sho
04:18:45fowlim pretty happy with sdl2 atm
04:19:41Kenny__Before I make that library, I think I'll practice and get everything down with a character based terminal engine. With input and such, of course.
04:20:18Kenny__Sound good?
04:21:26fowlno, lol
04:21:31fowlfor real i dont recommend that
04:21:37Kenny__Ouch, why not?
04:21:56fowlncurses was written for that purpose and its terrible to use but better than the alternative
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04:23:33fowlstuff like that drawing with ANSI codes, reading from stdin in a non-blocking way, is hella tedious
04:24:01fowlyou'll find yourself writing ncurses
04:25:03Kenny__Ah, that's why I always make my (Linux only - but I'd do cross platform for this) library. I never enjoyed Curses.
04:25:27fowlcheck out libtcod it may do what you need
04:25:31*tangentstorm is writing a terminal application
04:25:34Kenny__And I usually keep it targetting people making Rogue-likes
04:25:47Kenny__But if you insist.
04:26:01tangentstormit's a different kind of terminal...
04:26:14tangentstormsupports variable width fonts and vector graphics.
04:26:33fowlwell im just saying i wouldnt go down that route if i could avoid it, its hairy work and there are battle-tested libraries out there
04:26:46tangentstormyeah
04:26:55Kenny__Ah, yeah.
04:26:58Kenny__I getchya.
04:27:36Kenny__Well then it's pretty late here, so I'll talk to you guys later! Thanks for the help.
04:27:38fowlthis might be nice http://freecode.com/projects/libcdk
04:27:57fowlnp kenny
04:28:24Kenny__And like I said, once I finish reading up on GL and X, I'll see what I can do about that native windowing library.
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07:36:43tangentstormhmm
07:37:02tangentstormwhy doesn't byte support == ?
07:38:41fowlimport unsigned
07:40:58tangentstormthanks! :)
07:41:36fowlnp
07:47:56Araqtangentstorm: if you want to enforce TColor.kk access, make your enum {.pure.}
07:48:35Araqotherwise I'd suggest using a prefix like 'col': colKK, colYY
07:52:03tangentstormAraq: thanks... normally i just use 'k' and 'K' instead of variable names... i like the {.pure.} though :)
07:52:08tangentstormwhat does 'end' do?
07:52:24tangentstormi see it's a keyword but i can't find any docs for it
07:52:31Araqit's a keyword for the source code filters
07:53:09Araqhttp://nimrod-code.org/filters.html#stdtmpl-filter
07:55:44Araqand maybe one day nimrod will allow for redundant 'end if' etc.
07:58:54Araqalso you should learn about 'let' and not declare your variables at the start of a proc; it's a great misfeature of pascal that a variable's lifetime can't be determined easily
08:00:16tangentstormlet seemed to behave like it was declaring a constant...
08:00:42tangentstormi find the pascal convention much more readable
08:01:40Araqthis will change pretty quickly ;-)
08:02:27Araqfor 'lastColor' you need a 'var' for your other variables a 'let' suffices
08:02:32tangentstormmaybe i'm not understanding
08:04:11Araqlet shade = if c.ord <= 8: "0;3" & $c.ord else: "01;3" & $(c.ord - 8)
08:04:39fowlfg() could be rewritten as if c != lastColor: write stdout, "\27[", (if ord(c) <= 8: "0;3"& $ord(c) else: "01;3"& $(ord(c)-8)), 'm' ; lastcolor = c
08:05:03Araqfowl: don't scare him ;-)
08:05:16fowlinline all the things!!
08:05:34tangentstormthat's not scary to me :)
08:06:23tangentstormhere is a mockup of the syntax for the language i've been working on: https://github.com/sabren/b4/blob/master/b4a/b4a.wj :)
08:07:39AraqI should make the parser enforce "no whitespace before ':' " :P
08:07:58Araqfor some reason I don't mind different styles but hate whitespace before ':' with a passion
08:08:43tangentstorm:)
08:08:56Araq: ; , are no operators
08:09:02Araqdon't spell them as such
08:10:29tangentstorm<shrug>
08:14:26tangentstormi don't follow pep 8 or the borland style guide either :)
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12:30:06SirSkidmorewhat is the best way to require nimrod files for testing?
12:32:40dom96hello SirSkidmore
12:33:06dom96could you elaborate, i'm not entirely sure what you mean.
12:34:43SirSkidmoreso, I want to write unittests in Nimrod. I "include unittest" but how should I include the files that I want to test? (foo.nim)
12:35:25dom96You should 'import unittest' not include it.
12:35:52SirSkidmorethat's what I meant
12:36:23SirSkidmorebut if I'm taking a TDD approach, and testing procs and such, how should I include the file with my procs, foo.nim
12:36:51dom96Simply import the foo.nim file?
12:37:14SirSkidmoreokay
12:37:35SirSkidmoreOh duh. I had import unittest
12:37:42SirSkidmorebut inlude foo.nim >.>
12:37:50dom96Export the procs you need to test and import 'foo.nim'
12:38:04dom96You could also do the testing inside foo.nim
12:38:09dom96when isMainModule:
12:38:16dom96 test "...": ...
12:38:33SirSkidmoreokay
12:38:35SirSkidmorethanks :)
12:39:11dom96Glad to help :)
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12:47:17Kenny__Morning, guys.
12:47:37SirSkidmoregood morning Kenny__
12:48:09Kenny__I'm having a bit of trouble with the marshal standard library, here.
12:48:52Kenny__I've tried numerous datatypes, self made, built in, but every time I get the same problem.
12:49:06Kenny__An unhandled exception at runtime: EAssertionFailed
12:49:15Kenny__marshal.nim(239) $$ marshal.nim(57) storeAny marshal.nim(89) storeAny typeinfo.nim(392) getBiggestInt system.nim(2459) hiddenRaiseAssert system.nim(2451) raiseAssert
12:49:25Kenny__That's the stack trace.
12:49:46Kenny__Specifically, I'm using the `$$` operator.
12:50:30dom96Kenny__: Can you gist your code?
12:50:42dom96(or at least the data type)
12:56:04AraqKenny__: do you use unsigned numbers? looks like typeinfo still doesn't support them
12:57:41Kenny__Sorry, I was making a gits
12:57:58Kenny__I'm using the GLuint datatype
12:58:09Kenny__So I'd assume that's what it's an alias of.
12:59:56Kenny__https://gist.github.com/KennethSills/5677642
13:03:58Araqso yeah the unsigned is the problem
13:04:26Kenny__Yeah, I just went ahead and got rid of all GLuint related code there
13:04:50AraqI will fix it later
13:04:50Kenny__And it runs the marshal properly
13:05:09Kenny__Thanks a lot, Araq.
13:06:25Kenny__Oh hey, while we're here.
13:06:38Kenny__Is there a *safe* way to get the address of something?
13:06:58AraqI don't think so
13:07:40Kenny__Because GenBuffers needs a PGLuint, but I was wanting to go the path of storing my Buffers as simple GLuint (since otherwise I'd have to go about dereferencing every single call I use a buffer)
13:08:08Kenny__And using "addr" is causing an illegal storage access.
13:08:24Araqnice
13:08:51Araq'addr' can hardly cause an illegal storage access
13:09:25Kenny__glGenBuffers(1, addr this.VertexBuffer) That line of code causes InitState.nim(49) Init SIGSEGV: Illegal storage access. (Attempt to read from nil?)
13:09:43Kenny__this.VertexBuffer being a GLuint = 0
13:11:23Araqthat sounds more like it couldn't load "glGenbuffers"
13:11:39Kenny__Ah - I'll look into that then.
13:11:51Kenny__Any hint where to look first?
13:12:30Araqyou need to call something so that the extension methods are loaded
13:12:49Araqafter you setup your render context or whatever it's called
13:13:28Araqopengl.nim says: You need to call ``loadExtensions`` after a rendering context has been created to load any extension proc that your code uses.
13:13:35Kenny__Oh I see that now, top of the OpenGL module "loadExtensions"
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15:25:47reactormonkAraq, got anything about the pragma?
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15:34:27Araqreactormonk: dunno what you mean
15:34:42Araq"it doesn't work"? well how so? "doesn't compile"
15:34:42Araq"doesn't work for types?"
15:35:02Araq"doesn't work because I declared it after usage?"
15:39:07reactormonklib/system/arduino.nim(1, 2) Error: invalid pragma: {.pragma, progmem, extern: "PROGMEM $1".}
15:39:07reactormonkdoes'nt compile
15:39:27reactormonkwith only that line in the file.
15:39:42reactormonkbtw, any way to find out which test failed? I only get FAILURE
15:39:57Araqno idea which test you run
15:41:57Araq {.pragma: progmem, extern: "PROGMEM $1".}
15:42:07Araqshould work
15:42:17Araqand yeah I get the syntax wrong all the time too
15:42:17dom96reactormonk: are you running the test suite? in that case look at the html output.
15:42:17Araqwill think about it
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16:02:08reactormonkdom96, kk
16:02:18reactormonkAraq, where do I place it?
16:02:18reactormonk var ex: exceptn {.progmem.}
16:02:23reactormonkgives me invalid indentation
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16:06:08Araqvar ex {.progmem.}: ...
16:07:03reactormonkdataType PROGMEM variableName[] = {}; // not this one
16:08:08reactormonkany way to disable 'main' production?
16:08:18Araq--nomain iirc
16:08:48Araqyeah that's it
16:08:58reactormonksweet
16:09:18reactormonklib/system/arduino.nim(6, 5) Error: invalid expression: 'ptr ex'
16:09:28reactormonkhow do I produce a pointer to an element?
16:09:28Araqaddr ex
16:11:48reactormonk foo_67018 = &PROGMEM ex;
16:11:58reactormonknope, that's not gonna work
16:12:18reactormonkThe PROGMEM keyword is a variable modifier, it should be used only with the datatypes defined in pgmspace.h
16:12:18reactormonkoh god...
16:13:28Araqwell add the pragma to the type then
16:13:38Araqthat might work
16:14:03Araqso simply use {.emit.}
16:14:03Araq*or simply
16:14:43reactormonknope, PROGMEM needs to be stated only on declaration, not on access
16:15:28Araqit's depressing to write something that you don't read
16:15:38reactormonkhttp://sprunge.us/YOgQ
16:15:58reactormonkyou only add the PROGMEM when you declare it, not when you read
16:20:03Araq{.emit: """prog_char string0[] PROGMEM = "String 0"; """.}
16:20:18Araqvar string0 {.importc, nodecl.}: char
16:20:48Araqfowl would create a macro to make it nicer
16:21:08reactormonkfowl, :-) ?
16:22:23reactormonkAraq, cool, thanks. Gotta run.
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16:42:07fowlmacro for what
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17:28:15Araqhi tymat
17:29:23tymatHello Araq
17:33:53tymatlearning nimrod for the first time. CAn someone tell me why this isn't compiling: http://nimrod-code.org/httpserver.html
17:34:34tymatgetting: httpserver.nim(6, 59) Error: undeclared identifier: 'wwwNL'
17:35:05tymathttp://nimrod-code.org/httpserver.html#101 wwNL is a const = "\x0D\x0A
17:35:58dom96tymat: You shouldn't save your file as 'httpserver' as that is the name of the stdlib module you are importing.
17:37:25tymatbingo! thank you
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18:30:13fowlreactormonk, https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/5680007
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18:58:36dom96amarsahinovic: I finally made that pull request: https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/pull/312
19:02:35amarsahinovicnice :D
19:03:10amarsahinovicare you planning to add other tests, except json?
19:04:12dom96Not sure yet, maybe after round 6.
19:05:20amarsahinovicDid you manage to add the optimizations you mentioned before?
19:07:02dom96I haven't optimized jester as far as I could. However the scgi optimizations are there.
19:09:29amarsahinovicthats good
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19:39:14reactormonkfowl, sweet, you sure the indentation is correct?
19:40:04fowlit ran without the progmem stuff
19:48:03reactormonkfowl, foo.nim(8, 46) Error: type expected
19:49:00fowlwhat line is it
19:49:28reactormonktemplate $1: cstring = $1_data[0].addr""".format(name, str, str.strval.len).parseStmt
19:49:46fowlcan you compile var x: array[1, int]
19:50:02fowlif not update your compiler or change that part to 0.. <$3
19:54:26reactormonklet me boot the compiler again
19:56:34reactormonkError: execution of an external program failed; rerun with --parallelBuild:1 to see the error message
19:56:36reactormonkO.o
19:56:57reactormonk prog_char string_0_data[] PROGMEM = "String 0"; static N_INLINE(void, initStackBottom)(void);
19:56:59reactormonkoh, kk
19:57:22Araqsee? the error messages keep getting better :P
19:57:38reactormonkAraq, the resulting binary is 160K
19:58:14reactormonkmy chip has 32K of flash.
19:58:40fowlthrow an sd reader on t
19:58:48fowlit
19:58:50Araqhow did you manage to even produce a binary?
19:59:05AraqI thought you're still updating system.nim
19:59:14Araqanyway try -d:release
19:59:26reactormonkAraq, I have two repos of nimrod on my computer
19:59:38reactormonk21K.
19:59:42reactormonkO.o
19:59:59Araqstill quite large
20:00:16reactormonkyep :-(
20:02:00reactormonkwhere do I pass the -Os?
20:02:27Araq-Os won't save you
20:02:40Araqyou need to see what's still included but unnecessary
20:02:50Araqso go read your system.c
20:05:05reactormonkdom96, where's the html output?
20:05:17dom96reactormonk: root nimrod dir
20:05:34reactormonkoh. Looked inside tests/
20:05:51reactormonkwhere?
20:06:10dom96how did you run the tests?
20:06:46reactormonkvia ./koch test
20:06:50dom96it might be in the dir you ran it in, I dunno. It's called testresults.html
20:07:24reactormonknope, nowhere
20:07:47reactormonkhttp://sprunge.us/UGNj O.o
20:07:51reactormonk[1] 13143 segmentation fault (core dumped) /home/tass/dev/nimrod/Nimrod/tests/tester reject
20:07:54reactormonkjust one line anyway
20:08:16dom96if the tester crashes then it obviously can't generate the output html
20:09:59reactormonkhm
20:10:31reactormonkno stacktrace either. Ideas?
20:10:56dom96--debuginfo + gdb
20:11:31reactormonk:-/
20:12:32reactormonk1127if (!((*(*(*t)).Link[(0)- 0]).Level == (*(*t)).Level)) goto LA2;
20:12:35reactormonk... blub
20:13:20Araqwell you screwed up your system.nim ?
20:13:41reactormonkyep.
20:13:47Araqwhy do you run the tester anyway?
20:13:55tymatI see there's a package for parsing JSON data but is there one for outputting to JSON data?
20:14:06Araqdo you think any test will run with 16K of RAM?
20:14:37dom96tymat: The same module provides those features.
20:14:51reactormonkAraq, you know, the new system.nim should run in normal conditions as well
20:15:05Araqah ok
20:15:18Araqwell you need to ensure the memory manager is initialized properly
20:15:35Araqwhich is of course the wrong thing for your embedded use case
20:15:40dom96tymat: let jNode = %{"test": %56}; echo(jNode)
20:15:45reactormonkhttp://sprunge.us/Pfji <- context
20:15:55tymatah that's what I was looking for.. thanks
20:16:04reactormonkAraq, I messed around with system.nim, so I want to make sure the tests still run.
20:21:47Araqreactormonk: system.nim contains:
20:21:56Araq when defined(initAllocator):
20:21:58Araq initAllocator()
20:22:54Araqline 2062 following; all this has to be done in the right order
20:23:08reactormonkdidn't change that
20:23:37Araqyou added code that runs before it most likely
20:24:26Araqand btw "context" would be a stack trace which you can get with "bt" in gdb
20:30:58reactormonkoh my god...
20:31:36reactormonkwould it be fine to throw away the whole split thingy and just add a bunch more whens?
20:31:51reactormonkand maybe move some implementations elsewhere
20:32:34Araqof course
20:32:52Araqwhy do you think it's been done this way? :P
20:33:01reactormonknow I see
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21:07:21tangentstormso i tried to make an actual bf interpreter last night but was too tired to debug it... the student i'm working with posted to SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16842810/brainfuck-interpreter-in-nimrod/16843136#16843136
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21:08:15tangentstormi created a tag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/nimrod
21:12:20tangentstormoh i guess it has to be peer reviewed by someone with more points than me.. nm.
21:12:28fowli get "K"
21:13:33tangentstormthat's odd. i haven't even tried to run his version yet. not sure what he changed.
21:14:08fowlare you supposed to store the instructions on the same tape as the memory
21:14:18tangentstormi think so
21:14:29tangentstormbut perhaps that's my error? :)
21:15:30fowlgenerally ive seen bf interps that read the input and use the string as instructions
21:15:31dom96Have you seen: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Execute_Brain****#Nimrod ? :P
21:15:47tangentstormnope :)
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21:17:24fowltangentstorm, add ram.repr.echo at the end to inspect the memory
21:18:55fowlthe guy who answered is right
21:18:57tangentstormi think you're right about the separate tapes, and that's what the other guy is saying too.
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