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| 00:16:36 | ehmry | ephja: turns out the better way to for me to get a string from a buffer pointer was to wrap the source in a streams interface |
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| 01:35:31 | ftsf | libman, pretty sure everyone here is willing to help noobs, seems silly to make another channel for it? |
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| 03:27:18 | yingjun_ | hello |
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| 03:36:30 | ftsf | o/ |
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| 07:58:42 | FromGitter | <mratsim> @dandevelop I think you should try doing your code the Nim way instead of the OO way, you can use procedures instead of OO get and set |
| 07:59:25 | FromGitter | <mratsim> for a get the input is `proc field (o: object, v: value) = ….` |
| 08:00:01 | FromGitter | <mratsim> for a setter the proc is `proc field(o: var object, v: value) = o.field = value |
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| 08:24:14 | Arrrr | Is there a less hacky way to convert to string template arguments? https://glot.io/snippets/eqd5j79nem |
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| 08:50:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> is it possible to make a member of an object static? IE shared amongst all instances? |
| 08:51:44 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I see the answer is no |
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| 09:01:11 | FromGitter | <mratsim> @zacharycarter You can maybe use (hack?) the type signature for that ⏎ ⏎ ```type Foo[Bar: static[Baz]] = object ⏎ …``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=592e8657fcbbe1891c60d5a2] |
| 09:01:27 | Arrrr | There are easy workarounds https://glot.io/snippets/eqd6ke5sfw |
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| 09:01:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> thanks |
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| 09:33:11 | Araq | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5917 is embarrassing, any takers? |
| 09:33:21 | Araq | in fact, please rewrite OrderedTable |
| 09:33:32 | Araq | it's sluggish and json depends on it |
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| 10:50:29 | gangstacat | dom96, what is the difference between `something` and ``something`` on the website? that seems to produce the same effect (the one used to inline code or technical terms), which one should be used? |
| 10:52:21 | FromGitter | <dom96> There isn't a difference |
| 10:56:55 | gangstacat | do we apply an unification on the whole website or don't we care (like `` instead of ` and * instead of - for lists)? |
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| 12:26:47 | Parashurama | @Araq: about OrderedTable. The PyPy & Python guys now uses a dict (hashtable) implementation that supposedly keep insertion order. |
| 12:26:48 | Parashurama | It doesn't mean , it's perfect for our use case, since python has different performance than Nim, but it serve as a base. |
| 12:26:49 | Parashurama | see: https://morepypy.blogspot.fr/2015/01/faster-more-memory-efficient-and-more.html |
| 12:26:51 | Parashurama | https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Objects/dictobject.c |
| 12:27:04 | Araq | I know |
| 12:27:24 | Araq | that's why I'd like to rewrite it and use the same algorithm |
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| 12:35:55 | Parashurama | You meant you'd rewrite it, or someone else can do the job? |
| 12:35:57 | Parashurama | |
| 12:36:46 | Araq | somebody else can do it, I'm sure. |
| 12:37:26 | Parashurama | Araq: btw, did the 'mix' function in 'colors' module ever work? |
| 12:38:16 | Parashurama | There are apparently some problem with nested templates in current devel. |
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| 12:39:40 | Parashurama | I think i will take a closer look at dictobject.c to see how it's implemented in CPython, and see how it compares in nim. |
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| 12:54:25 | dom96 | gangstacat: it doesn't matter, it's the same thing. |
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| 13:19:11 | arnetheduck | Araq, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5818? once that is done, I'll push debug support for nlvm, pretty cool |
| 13:19:49 | arnetheduck | gives native-like debugging support in gdb |
| 13:36:38 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> @mratsim the setter`proc field(o: var object, v: value) = o.field = value` does not give the option to write `object.field=value` and run additional code when setting the value |
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| 13:40:51 | shmup | what'd be a nice/quick way to test that nim is infact reading from a config. on windows, put it in %APPDATA%, nim c is still trying to use gcc.exe (I configured it to use cl.exe via config) |
| 13:41:13 | shmup | https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html#compiler-usage-configuration-files |
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| 14:00:39 | shmup | ftsf: hm. ok. compiling a minimal nico example using cl.exe and it does compile! although.. => could not import: SDL_CaptureMouse |
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| 14:02:45 | shmup | i'm using SDL 2.0.5 which should def be fine, so, hm. |
| 14:02:56 | ftsf | hmm yeah, that sounds fine |
| 14:03:11 | ftsf | it's failing during linking? |
| 14:04:55 | shmup | well it's not explicitely yelling at me |
| 14:05:19 | ftsf | but that import error, where's that happening? |
| 14:05:29 | shmup | oh, run time |
| 14:06:19 | ftsf | oh that's very strange |
| 14:06:22 | shmup | i'm just trying to solve this windows stuff since with work, I am on windows often, heh. this is def more of a pain in the ass. will be nice to solve it tho |
| 14:07:16 | ftsf | maybe the windows import library |
| 14:07:22 | ftsf | i'm not sure how those work |
| 14:07:37 | dom96 | Make sure that the DLL and EXE have the same CPU architecture. |
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| 14:07:49 | shmup | well that might explain it dom96 because i'm using x86 SDL however... |
| 14:07:50 | dom96 | 64 bit DLLs won't work with a 32 bit EXE |
| 14:08:06 | shmup | ignoring unknown option '--platform:x86' |
| 14:08:32 | shmup | if I use --cpu:i386 it does that ^ if I leave it off, it does same thing but :amd64 |
| 14:09:14 | shmup | it's possible I need to do some more configuration in nim.cfg for this windows stuff? |
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| 14:24:33 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Does anyone know a Dash docset for Nim? |
| 14:25:29 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> you can generate it with https://github.com/wicast/nim-docset |
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| 14:27:28 | ehmry | is there a paste service with nim highlighting support? |
| 14:34:31 | dom96 | gist |
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| 14:35:22 | euantor | The Nim playground could really do with a share link, like glot.io |
| 14:35:35 | euantor | I believe that was a planned feature |
| 14:44:12 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Thanks @andreaferretti , worked great! |
| 14:44:22 | shmup | ehmry: ix.io should work too |
| 14:44:34 | shmup | http://ix.io/client for a helpful script |
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| 15:01:00 | ehmry | Nim support for the Genode OS is official now https://genode.org/documentation/release-notes/17.05#Nim_programming_language |
| 15:04:12 | ehmry | it works, but no nimble support yet |
| 15:05:05 | dom96 | awesome. First time i'm hearing of Genode OS. |
| 15:06:01 | ehmry | I snuck support into the 0.17 release, and now this is integration in the gnode build system |
| 15:06:25 | ftsf | shmup, can you try the latest nico? |
| 15:06:37 | dom96 | ehmry: nice! :) |
| 15:06:37 | ftsf | hopefully it should JustWorkTM now |
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| 15:11:39 | shmup | ftsf: sdl2.nim(182, 10) Error: undeclared identifier: 'STBIException' |
| 15:12:46 | shmup | I re-nimble installed nico and tried compiling the usual successful way, with gcc/msys |
| 15:13:02 | ftsf | hmm |
| 15:13:13 | ftsf | nimble install stb_image ? |
| 15:13:29 | shmup | I have your 1.2 one installed but I'll do it again |
| 15:13:34 | ftsf | ahh it needs 1.3 |
| 15:13:38 | ftsf | i'll update the dep |
| 15:13:49 | euantor | ehmry: Cool. I hadn't heard of Genode before now either. I like the integration of the compiler into the standard toolchain |
| 15:17:26 | ftsf | http://static.impbox.net/nico/examples/platformer.html \o/ |
| 15:17:37 | ftsf | compiling to JS is so cool |
| 15:18:00 | ehmry | I'm in the process of making wrappers for writing native components |
| 15:18:28 | shmup | compiles fine now ftsf |
| 15:18:36 | ftsf | shmup, awesome \o/ |
| 15:18:45 | ftsf | switched over to sdl2_nim you suggested |
| 15:18:50 | ftsf | seems to be more updated |
| 15:19:23 | ehmry | there is some potential optimizations if the libc were bypassed, but not a huge priority now |
| 15:20:11 | shmup | ftsf: nice, nice. glad it wasn't a pain in the ass |
| 15:20:19 | shmup | SDL_CaptureMouse is a thing I'm gonna tackle later |
| 15:20:48 | ftsf | SDL_CaptureMouse: This function is available since SDL 2.0.4 |
| 15:20:49 | ftsf | hmm |
| 15:20:56 | ftsf | could be an old SDL2.dll somewhere? |
| 15:22:23 | shmup | 2, 0, 3, 0 C:\Windows\System32\SDL2.dll |
| 15:22:24 | shmup | lol |
| 15:22:26 | shmup | woops :) |
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| 15:22:38 | shmup | well I can fix this later pr easily then. good to know. |
| 15:22:55 | shmup | Swear .. my .. SDL zip here says 2.0.5 so I don't know what the heck I did. |
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| 15:33:19 | shmup | all resolved. |
| 15:35:50 | shmup | hm ftsf did you change paintout? it doesn't show the hello_world anymore, just paint flyin |
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| 15:41:07 | ftsf | shmup, hmm might not be loading the font |
| 15:41:21 | ftsf | any message on console about the font? |
| 15:42:02 | shmup | man. no message but you're totally right. |
| 15:42:32 | shmup | i thought i copied paintout.nim before and compiled, without those assets. surely I am mistaken. |
| 15:44:42 | ftsf | does examples/assets/font.png exist? |
| 15:45:09 | ftsf | did you create the examples with `nimble examples` ? |
| 15:46:07 | shmup | it does, it's fine. you were right and all, I just was mistaken that I ever compiled it outside of nico/examples. all good |
| 15:46:27 | ftsf | cool =) |
| 15:46:34 | ftsf | glad it's all working now |
| 15:47:15 | shmup | :) do you have anything on itch.io ? |
| 15:47:34 | ftsf | https://impbox.itch.io/ yep! |
| 15:47:38 | shmup | oh, I see. you're impbox, not just nico |
| 15:47:45 | ftsf | sorry, too many handles =( |
| 15:47:56 | shmup | er unless nico.itch.io is not you :P |
| 15:48:06 | shmup | yeah, lol, I saw you have another github as well |
| 15:48:06 | ftsf | it's not |
| 15:48:11 | shmup | (I believe using your real name) |
| 15:48:21 | ftsf | i'm just ftsf and impbox |
| 15:48:24 | ftsf | nico is the project name |
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| 15:58:47 | shmup | neat mechanics youre toyin with in this platformer |
| 16:00:10 | ftsf | it's basically a clone of another game called Downwell |
| 16:00:22 | ftsf | well, start of a clone |
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| 16:29:24 | shmup | oh indeed it is |
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| 16:39:53 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> is there a constant to check whether debug is enabled? |
| 16:40:07 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> something like `when debugEnabled: ...` |
| 16:40:35 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> I would like something like `assert` but with customized exceptions |
| 16:42:39 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> ah ok I found how to do in the source for assert |
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| 16:44:54 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> by the way it is `when compileOption("assertions")` |
| 16:46:21 | dom96 | when not defined(release)? |
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| 16:51:06 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> well, the former is more precise |
| 16:51:25 | FromGitter | <andreaferretti> one may have a not release build without assertions enabled |
| 17:03:03 | dom96 | yes, I should have read further before replying :) |
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| 18:32:25 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Would it be possible to use the nim macros/ast stuff to convert nim statements to a custom language? Just for the sake of an example, something that would convert some Nim code (loops, if statements) to Go code (replace Go with any other language here) |
| 18:33:10 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> So you would have Nim code as input and the ast functions would interpret that code and allow you to export a string with code in another language |
| 18:33:54 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Is this something that would be doable with Nim or just a crazy idea in my head? |
| 18:35:51 | Arrrr | That's what nim does, convert the nim syntax to c/js |
| 18:36:47 | FromGitter | <Varriount> I don't think there's anything stopping you from creating a macro that mimics the compiler, and uses the {.emit.} pragma |
| 18:41:41 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> @Arrrr that's right. I am wondering how hard would be to add another output language. Sounds complex in my head when I put it this way but maybe macros/ast parsing in nim would make it not that hard |
| 18:42:55 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> @Varriount any idea on where to start on that path? |
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| 18:47:33 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Just took a look at jsgen.nim and it looks scary |
| 18:55:26 | Araq | dandevelop: look at compiler/jsgen.nim, macros are Nim AST to AST transformations, they are not supposed to produce different languages (though I've been using them for that too ;-) ) |
| 18:56:53 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> You believe that file would be a good start, @Araq? |
| 18:57:29 | Araq | yup |
| 18:58:31 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Is there another resource like doc that I could read in order to understand that code or I should just try to read the code? |
| 18:59:43 | Araq | it's the simplest code generator we have |
| 19:01:17 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Thanks Araq, I think I will get "dirty" and try to understand that one |
| 19:02:55 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Just kidding, I just found out about Nim these days and I find it great so far! |
| 19:03:55 | Araq | don't kid around, read it, it's a good start and you don't have to understand every detail to get the ideas |
| 19:06:00 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Yep, that's the plan :) I was now looking for the function that gets the actual nim code as an input so that I could start from that one |
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| 19:11:15 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Do you have any pointers on what functions I should start with in jsgen.nim? |
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| 19:40:27 | Araq | line 2095 |
| 19:41:55 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Thank you Araq! Appreciate it. |
| 19:42:28 | PMunch | euantor, thanks for the comment on #5885. Added the newStringOfCap thing |
| 19:45:52 | euantor | Nice one, thanks |
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| 20:47:00 | chrisheller | shmup: If you're having problems between 32 and 64 bit imports, there is some forum discussion about how name mangling may be affecting things. |
| 20:47:12 | chrisheller | Let me dig that up |
| 20:49:58 | chrisheller | Forum discussion I was referring to https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1721#10920 |
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| 22:08:04 | FromGitter | <Varriount> Araq: is it officially supported to raise exception types instantiated without the `newException` template? |
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| 22:23:36 | Araq | sure |
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| 23:06:02 | Nobabs27 | wants the equiv of a like "const var foo" or "static var foo", or does this matter? |
| 23:06:42 | Araq | var foo ? |
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| 23:23:47 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Anyone knows how to make this code (2 years old) work with Nim today? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32487507/nim-code-parser/32490051 |
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| 23:38:45 | Araq | dandevelop just like that? |
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| 23:39:36 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Sorry, thought I wrote the second line as well |
| 23:40:35 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> This is the line I am currently struggling with: `var m = makeStdinModule()` |
| 23:41:06 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> It looks like this doesn't work anymore and it expects a ModuleGraph |
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| 23:42:19 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> Ah, I think I don't need it anymore. Just found out the nimeval.nim file |
| 23:42:34 | FromGitter | <dandevelop> And it looks like it might do exactly that |
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