<< 02-04-2022 >>
00:00:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Now if only we could make the compiler report error messages with the untransformed code
00:01:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3h
00:02:04FromDiscord<huantian> wonder if something like that would work for strfmt too
00:02:19FromDiscord<huantian> though I guess that's not actualy the problem with stfmt erros
00:02:50FromDiscord<biz> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959603781430046820/unknown.png
00:02:59FromDiscord<biz> nice
00:03:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I wonder if we can somehow fake this huan 😛
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00:04:28FromDiscord<biz> @dyno
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00:08:46FromDiscord<demotomohiro> 'discard' and 'discord' are looks similar.
00:11:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Any ideas how we can force the code the programmer typed appear in the error message without compiler support and rewriting macros 😛
00:13:58FromDiscord<biz> tbh
00:14:03FromDiscord<biz> i think my code is good looking
00:14:11FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3l
00:15:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3m
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00:29:50FromDiscord<slymilano> This is very interesting, with no significant code changes my binaries are much smaller than before. I don't know if it's Nim improvements or Prologue package improvements. 1.09MB before to 785KB now. Nim 1.3.x to 1.64 now.
00:29:59FromDiscord<slymilano> https://github.com/sergiotapia/torrentinim/releases?page=1
00:30:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You were using `1.3.X` as a proper build ? 😛
00:30:49FromDiscord<Rika> odd minor versions are development versions
00:30:54FromDiscord<Rika> theyre not meant for stable use
00:31:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Have you changed the GC you're using?
00:31:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> odd minor/patch are devel versions
00:31:58FromDiscord<slymilano> No, I only updated Nim to latest and Prologue to latest after a 10 month hiatus.
00:32:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah might just be smarter code gen t hen
00:32:31FromDiscord<slymilano> Hold up can't tell if you're joking or not. I shouldn't be using 1.6.4? I should be using 1.6.0?
00:32:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You should be using 1.6.4
00:32:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You shouldnt have been using 1.3.x when 1.4 released
00:33:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Odd `1.x.y` x/y in are devel builds
00:33:53FromDiscord<slymilano> I see good to know ty!
00:34:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you want it even smaller consider `--gc:arc` or `--gc:orc` if you have cyclic data types
00:34:51FromDiscord<biz> what is `%`
00:34:52FromDiscord<biz> ?
00:35:05FromDiscord<biz> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959611894484852766/unknown.png
00:35:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The dumb choice of `toJson`
00:35:24FromDiscord<slymilano> The only choice I use for toJson lmao so what should I use that's better?
00:35:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nah it's not you it's the library
00:35:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Arbitrary unreadable operators suck
00:35:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it should've been named `toJson`
00:35:53FromDiscord<slymilano> 100% agreed
00:36:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim 2.0 when
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00:37:23FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @Elegantbeef "The dumb choice of": is this a natural nim
00:37:24FromDiscord<biz> thing
00:37:28FromDiscord<enthus1ast> every time i write $ %\ it feels like i swear to the compiler to give me a json string \:)
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00:37:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "natural nim"?
00:37:50FromDiscord<biz> like without any necessary imports
00:37:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's apart of the nim stdlib if that's what you mean, a vast majority of Nim is implement in user space
00:37:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No it's not
00:38:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Only a few modules are imported automagically though `system.nim` like `io` for instance
00:39:42FromDiscord<biz> so
00:39:53FromDiscord<biz> do i import something?
00:39:57FromDiscord<biz> in the example, they only import oids
00:40:00FromDiscord<biz> and their package's stuff
00:40:34FromDiscord<slymilano> Go `%myJsonVariable`
00:41:02FromDiscord<slymilano> Is this `%` in strutils or strformat - I can't remember. Try importing both
00:41:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you do try arc/orc do let me know how small it gets↵(@slymilano)
00:42:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can export modules
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00:42:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So they probably export the json module
00:42:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if they dont you do `import json`
00:42:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `%` for string templates is in strutils, unary `%` is in json
00:44:49nrds<Prestige99> I have a hybrid nimble package I'm creating, I want to create a file that will be the executable, but not be the "main" file of the library. Is there a way to do this?
00:45:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Look at picostdlib or nico
00:45:36FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef "if they dont you": smh what happened to `import std/json`
00:46:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Shit i messed up, we have to go back marty
00:46:40FromDiscord<biz> what would be a good way to create an event handler?
00:46:52FromDiscord<biz> you have to pass a specific name to the events thing i believe
00:47:06FromDiscord<biz> unless it checks parameters?
00:47:08FromDiscord<biz> 🤔
00:47:12FromDiscord<Rika> wdym?
00:47:27FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3q
00:47:31FromDiscord<biz> are you able to check params of a func in nim?
00:47:35FromDiscord<biz> similar to golang?
00:47:36FromDiscord<Rika> ""check""???
00:47:43FromDiscord<biz> basically see the param types
00:47:45FromDiscord<biz> of that function
00:47:50FromDiscord<biz> and determine what event it is
00:48:04FromDiscord<Rika> i am really confused, i have no idea what you mean
00:48:10FromDiscord<biz> so in discordgo
00:48:17FromDiscord<biz> wait
00:48:18FromDiscord<biz> im go nna test
00:48:19FromDiscord<biz> something
00:48:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/GaryM-exkage/GDGW-Maverick-Bot/blob/master/src/nimcordbot/command/parsetest.nim personally i like my command handler
00:48:43FromDiscord<Rika> why is it like that what
00:48:47FromDiscord<Rika> lmao thats kinda weird
00:48:52FromDiscord<biz> for discordgo?
00:48:55FromDiscord<biz> also yea i was right u have to give a name
00:49:03FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @Rika "lmao thats kinda weird": well
00:49:05FromDiscord<biz> its flexible
00:49:06FromDiscord<Rika> not you
00:49:08FromDiscord<biz> oh
00:49:08FromDiscord<Rika> beef
00:49:22nrds<Prestige99> hm so they just excluded srcDir... weird
00:49:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Why is it like what?
00:51:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I guess with slash commands that's redundant
00:52:15nrds<Prestige99> I guess the answer is to have an "incorrect" nimble project structure, lol
00:52:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Mine isnt incorrect
00:53:00FromDiscord<biz> what is "\` \`"
00:53:01FromDiscord<biz> like
00:53:04FromDiscord<biz> \`==\`
00:53:10FromDiscord<biz> what does this do
00:53:22nrds<Prestige99> oh, well nico's is. I'll check out yours next
00:54:17nrds<Prestige99> you lie beef :P "Error: Package 'picostdlib' has an incorrect structure."
00:54:23FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @biz "what is "\` ": stropping
00:54:27FromDiscord<biz> ?
00:54:31FromDiscord<Rika> for defining operators
00:54:38FromDiscord<biz> operators i see
00:54:42FromDiscord<Rika> where the name consists of symbols only
00:54:46FromDiscord<Rika> sometimes
00:55:07FromDiscord<biz> i see
00:55:14FromDiscord<biz> one more question
00:55:35FromDiscord<biz> for objects
00:55:37FromDiscord<biz> can you do
00:55:43FromDiscord<biz> `<object>["property name"]`?
00:57:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> grave around identifiers is lexical stropping which overrides the nim's parser
00:57:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#lexical-analysis-keywords-as-identifiers
00:58:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The incorrect structure prestige is due to the templates
00:58:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if you learned to read you'd have seen that
01:08:17FromDiscord<biz> is tehre a way to import
01:08:20FromDiscord<biz> not-at-top-level
01:08:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No
01:08:30FromDiscord<biz> or something similar to require
01:08:32FromDiscord<biz> ?
01:08:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can import later in the file
01:08:54FromDiscord<biz> i need the return values of a file
01:08:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You dont have to import at the top though it's convention
01:09:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "return values"
01:09:12FromDiscord<biz> yes reutrn values
01:09:17FromDiscord<biz> i need a function returned from a file
01:09:19FromDiscord<biz> im using it for a handler
01:09:23FromDiscord<biz> unless there snaother way to
01:09:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Modules dont have return values
01:09:24FromDiscord<biz> load code
01:09:31FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Modules dont have return": you get my point
01:09:36FromDiscord<biz> from a file, exported values
01:09:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> then do `var myProc = myModule.myOtherProc`
01:10:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> replace the left hand for whatever you're doing
01:10:15FromDiscord<biz> myModule
01:10:23FromDiscord<biz> in a literal sense?
01:10:57FromDiscord<biz> well
01:10:59FromDiscord<biz> whatever that means
01:11:00FromDiscord<biz> ill figure it out
01:11:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `myModule` being the module you want to get the procedure from if it's ambiguous otherwise just `myOtherProc`
01:11:12FromDiscord<biz> i see
01:11:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Perhaps ask the actual question instead of making up terms
01:11:26nrds<Prestige99> Elegantbeef it's incorrect and you said it isn't lol
01:11:26FromDiscord<biz> im not from this community
01:11:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's incorrect due to the templates folder not due to having a hybrid package
01:12:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You have a handler and want to access a procedure from another module
01:12:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Import that module into the file the handler is created
01:12:40FromDiscord<biz> wiat wait
01:12:42FromDiscord<biz> i think i got it
01:12:46FromDiscord<biz> previously i had tried replit
01:12:48FromDiscord<biz> at school
01:12:50FromDiscord<biz> bc they blocked github
01:12:54FromDiscord<biz> and something went wrong with an idea
01:12:57FromDiscord<biz> so i was under false impressions
01:12:58FromDiscord<biz> brb
01:13:40FromDiscord<huantian> github and replit aren't like for the same thing?↵but out of curiosity what did you do?
01:14:15FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @huantian "github and replit aren't": Well previously id code on github to look at it at home
01:14:21FromDiscord<biz> but i was testing module importing
01:14:25FromDiscord<biz> since i was first-day-on-nim
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01:15:23FromDiscord<biz> what would be a module in ur eyes
01:15:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A file
01:15:41FromDiscord<biz> oh
01:15:43FromDiscord<biz> what if i want a folder
01:15:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `myFile.nim` is a module
01:15:48FromDiscord<biz> but i want all of its returns
01:15:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's a folder
01:15:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "it's returns"
01:16:01FromDiscord<biz> let me speak my lingo i didnt come from nim
01:16:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You want all the submodules in a directory?
01:16:08FromDiscord<biz> basically
01:16:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You need a macro in that instance
01:16:23FromDiscord<biz> nvm ill stick to my stuff
01:16:28FromDiscord<biz> 👼
01:16:44FromDiscord<huantian> couldn't you have a file in the same folder as the folder with the same name, which imports and exports all the files?↵or does that not work
01:16:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/GaryM-exkage/GDGW-Maverick-Bot/blob/master/src/nimcordbot/utils.nim#L3-L21 an example of a macro
01:16:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can huan that's manual though
01:17:15FromDiscord<huantian> ah true
01:17:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can make `mycommands.nim` and have a folder `mycommands` then have `import myCommandA, myCommandB; export myCommandA, myCommandB`
01:17:41FromDiscord<biz> thats god awful
01:17:51FromDiscord<huantian> no it's just, normal?
01:18:02FromDiscord<biz> this bot will be evergrowing
01:18:05FromDiscord<huantian> like python you have to do that in your `init.py` for example
01:18:08FromDiscord<biz> id have to import at least 100 things
01:18:10FromDiscord<biz> in the future
01:18:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Then write a macro
01:18:18FromDiscord<huantian> ^
01:18:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It takes 3 seconds
01:18:29FromDiscord<biz> ur macros are confusing, also
01:18:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I gave you the basis already
01:18:32FromDiscord<biz> the naming
01:18:34FromDiscord<biz> is rather odd
01:18:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well then live with the manual importing until you learn macros
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01:19:12FromDiscord<biz> well not the macor
01:19:14FromDiscord<biz> macro naming
01:19:17FromDiscord<biz> what is newNodeStim
01:19:58FromDiscord<huantian> I don't think that's a thing?
01:20:18FromDiscord<biz> newNimNode
01:20:20FromDiscord<biz> my dumb ass
01:20:22FromDiscord<biz> cannot read
01:20:46FromDiscord<biz> or newStmtList
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01:22:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's generating Nim code as you're new it's not really a wonderful thing to explain
01:22:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim macros work on the AST, and if you dont know what AST is it's an ordeal
01:22:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> damn
01:22:51FromDiscord<huantian> hm matrix bridge dead?
01:22:58FromDiscord<huantian> there we go
01:23:05FromDiscord<enthus1ast> you can write macros real quick when you use parseStmt
01:23:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> parsestmt doesnt work for imports though
01:23:39FromDiscord<huantian> dang my april fools icon looks horrible here from the transparency not working
01:24:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> April fools like it's much different
01:24:24FromDiscord<biz> even if i wrote my own handler
01:24:28FromDiscord<biz> it wouldnt be much different from yours
01:24:32FromDiscord<biz> because.. well..
01:24:37FromDiscord<biz> there doesnt seem to be any other solutions
01:24:50FromDiscord<Rika> What is happening I left to set up a media server
01:25:04FromDiscord<biz> nim only allows top lvl imports
01:25:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim lacks entire directory import
01:25:07FromDiscord<biz>
01:25:07FromDiscord<Rika> Yes
01:25:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How does having non top level imports solve anything here
01:25:44FromDiscord<Rika> I don’t know what your issue is
01:25:45FromDiscord<biz> youre allowed to use paths
01:25:48FromDiscord<biz> with importing
01:25:56FromDiscord<biz> that seems like the only issue stopping me
01:26:05FromDiscord<Rika> You can do so in Nim as well?
01:26:10FromDiscord<biz> I said that
01:26:11FromDiscord<biz> i meant
01:26:16FromDiscord<biz> top lvl import restriction
01:26:17FromDiscord<huantian> you don't want to use paths in importing?
01:26:17FromDiscord<biz> is my issue
01:26:21FromDiscord<Rika> Why
01:26:24FromDiscord<biz> i cant import anywhere inside the function
01:26:26FromDiscord<biz> i need to
01:26:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No you dont
01:26:34FromDiscord<Rika> Why inside the function
01:26:40FromDiscord<biz> its the handler
01:26:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Import top level and use the symbols inside
01:26:55nrds<Prestige99> anyway beef
01:26:57FromDiscord<Rika> What does that have to do with importing
01:27:01nrds<Prestige99> I don't think your package does what I was saying
01:27:03FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @Rika "What does that have": i need file data
01:27:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Anyway prestige
01:27:08FromDiscord<biz> i wouldnt have predetermined names
01:27:17FromDiscord<biz> (edit) "data" => "exports"
01:27:21FromDiscord<Rika> You can’t arbitrarily import files at runtime
01:27:27FromDiscord<Rika> You must do it on compile time
01:27:29FromDiscord<Rika> Hence the macro
01:27:30FromDiscord<biz> sucks
01:27:48FromDiscord<Rika> There’s a different system for run time and it’s not nice
01:28:05FromDiscord<biz> if only nim had `requirw`
01:28:08FromDiscord<biz> (edit) "`requirw`" => "`require`"
01:28:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Require doesnt chang anything
01:28:15FromDiscord<Rika> My implication, for those who know, is to abuse HCR or something
01:28:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/ire4ever1190/dimscmd
01:28:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also use that if you want a command handeler
01:28:27FromDiscord<biz> im going to reference that
01:28:30FromDiscord<biz> not use it
01:28:31FromDiscord<biz> hate cmd handlers
01:28:34FromDiscord<biz> that arent mine
01:28:37FromDiscord<huantian> though it hasn't been updated in a bit unfortunately
01:28:38FromDiscord<Rika> Ok
01:29:14nrds<Prestige99> eh maybe I'll just have like when defined(foo) in my file and have the content be completely different
01:29:22nrds<Prestige99> if I want it to be the executable instead of the library
01:29:32FromDiscord<huantian> I'm pretty sure just writing a macro will solve all your problems biz
01:29:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What hasnt?
01:29:49FromDiscord<biz> In reply to @huantian "I'm pretty sure just": i dont want to use a solution
01:29:53FromDiscord<biz> elegantbeef has already created
01:30:01FromDiscord<Rika> Why
01:30:03FromDiscord<biz> well, in this manenr
01:30:04FromDiscord<biz> manner
01:30:09FromDiscord<biz> because i want to be createive
01:30:11FromDiscord<biz> creative
01:30:11FromDiscord<Rika> Then make it yourself
01:30:15FromDiscord<Rika> Then be creative
01:30:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Creatively rewrite it
01:30:40FromDiscord<Rika> We’ll tell you if something is or isn’t possible if you need to know
01:31:31FromDiscord<enthus1ast> whats the problem btw? Have a chatbot be extendable?
01:31:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Automatically import submodules
01:31:51FromDiscord<huantian> And I assume generate the code to register it to the command handler
01:32:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The implication being the modules dont do that
01:32:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I wonder if the compiler `--importFile` could be abused here
01:32:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Doubt it'd happily play
01:32:47FromDiscord<huantian> ehh probably not worth it
01:32:54FromDiscord<Rika> Kinda strange dude ngl
01:33:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How did you know my highschool nickname?!↵(@Rika)
01:33:36FromDiscord<Rika> Because it never changed
01:34:42FromDiscord<enthus1ast> they called me Ren Dhark back then....
01:34:54FromDiscord<biz> what is
01:34:55FromDiscord<biz> nnkIdent
01:35:00FromDiscord<biz> i know what StmtList is now
01:35:02FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @biz\: do you know all the modules on compiletime?
01:35:08FromDiscord<huantian> nim node kind Identifier
01:35:20FromDiscord<biz> ill know the file names, but i wish for autonomy
01:35:28FromDiscord<biz> id rather not import tens to hundreds
01:35:32FromDiscord<biz> of files
01:35:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Enthus i had to google that and it doesnt translate to english 😛
01:35:54FromDiscord<huantian> I think the word you're looking for is automation/automated?↵(@biz)
01:36:11FromDiscord<biz> sorry my brain is scrambled
01:36:17FromDiscord<biz> im focused on a lot at once lmfaoo
01:36:18FromDiscord<huantian> no it's fine words are hard
01:36:25FromDiscord<enthus1ast> its like the german perry rhodan ;)
01:36:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You say that like it'd be any more clear
01:36:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also that's german aswell
01:37:24FromDiscord<enthus1ast> oh really \:D did not know that
01:37:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I didnt know either of those so I now know some german space opera stuff
01:37:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> @biz\: when you know the stuff you gonna need at compile time, macros are the way to go
01:38:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well given they're importing modules that's kinda required
01:38:54FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yeah, in small "dime novel" (is this an englisch word who knows)
01:39:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> comic is probably the english equivlent
01:39:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It does seem to be an english phrase, so congrats! 😛
01:40:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also hopefully it's clear why i closed your post TMWN
01:41:10FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yeah i was working on a more in depth article, but got lost in nitty gritty, i think i must overhaul the post
01:41:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The guest post doesnt go there it get's PR'd to the official repo btw
01:42:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Prestige cant you just do `when isMainModule`?
01:42:57FromDiscord<biz> what is ident
01:43:10FromDiscord<biz> identifer?
01:43:11FromDiscord<biz> indeifier
01:43:12FromDiscord<biz> omg
01:43:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Identifier
01:43:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's any written name in nim
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01:43:40nrds<Prestige99> hmm maybe. Would be nice if I could just have it in a separate file though
01:44:30FromDiscord<biz> im not exactly rewriting yours
01:44:30FromDiscord<biz> but
01:44:34FromDiscord<biz> im making it
01:44:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/Ni2
01:44:38FromDiscord<biz> simpler
01:44:39FromDiscord<biz> and more clear
01:44:41FromDiscord<biz> for my proj
01:44:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well take this it might help a tinge https://dev.to/beef331/demystification-of-macros-in-nim-13n8
01:45:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/tut3.html
01:45:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or prestige you can use my least favourite `include`
01:45:41nrds<Prestige99> beef: But in that case, if someone used my library, wouldn't it also bring in the file it doesn't need (the runnable program)?
01:45:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Why would it?
01:45:59FromDiscord<enthus1ast> just tried import seems to work in parseStmt
01:46:07FromDiscord<biz> what is Infix
01:46:09FromDiscord<biz> and Prefix
01:46:10FromDiscord<biz> for nnk
01:46:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `+someWord` is prefix `someWord` is post fix and `a + b` is infix
01:46:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Enthus was that in the same module you called it from?
01:46:55FromDiscord<enthus1ast> yes
01:47:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Use parse stmt in seperate modules and you'll get the error
01:47:10nrds<Prestige99> Elegantbeef: Not sure how nimble works, assume it just pulls all the .nim files
01:47:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ok but that's how hybrrid works
01:47:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It ships both the binary and the library
01:47:45nrds<Prestige99> maybe there's an option to exclude a file..
01:48:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How can you exclude the source files but have a binary?
01:48:05FromDiscord<biz> cant i just do
01:48:11nrds<Prestige99> yeah but in this case, the source code for the binary is not part of the library
01:48:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont follow
01:48:31FromDiscord<biz> wait ok so
01:48:32nrds<Prestige99> maybe I should just read nimble's source cuz its docs are terrible
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01:48:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You want the entry fiie for the library and the binary to be the same but only differ by import
01:48:47FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3y
01:48:47FromDiscord<biz> what does this give you
01:49:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Jeez why did i use add
01:49:08nrds<Prestige99> I'd prefer they were different files
01:49:09FromDiscord<biz> seems
01:49:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it's a prefix so it'd do `/command`
01:49:11FromDiscord<biz> unncessary
01:49:12nrds<Prestige99> but it seems that's not an option
01:49:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> yea it should ideally be `nnkPrefix.newNimNode(ident"/", ident"command")`
01:50:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What do you mean that's not possible?
01:50:05FromDiscord<biz> lmao
01:50:12FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3z
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01:51:11nrds<Prestige99> I don't know how to have an entry point for the library as one file, but have the binary's nim file be different, all while keeping a "proper" nimble package structure
01:51:32FromDiscord<biz> can you nnkInfix.newNImNode()
01:51:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That macro generates `import command/[a, b, c, d.eee]`
01:51:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes you can
01:51:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Like i said that's ugly code
01:52:21nrds<Prestige99> Basically I want two files here https://github.com/avahe-kellenberger/shade/tree/master/src but nimble doesn't like it
01:53:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3B
01:54:04FromDiscord<biz> dang rewriting is super easy!
01:54:08FromDiscord<biz> totally did it by myself
01:54:11FromDiscord<biz>
01:54:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Whoops second `"/"` should be `ident"/"`
01:54:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I have 0 clue why i wrote it so ugly
01:54:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The fuck did i have drain bamage
01:54:52FromDiscord<biz> what does
01:54:53FromDiscord<biz> `do`
01:54:58FromDiscord<biz> apply
01:55:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> do notation allows you to supply more arguments to the block call syntax
01:55:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> so it turns it into `newStmtlist(newTreeStuffHere, bracket)`
01:55:53FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef "The fuck did i": Hard to tell
01:56:20FromDiscord<biz> the new code is
01:56:26FromDiscord<biz> not on my level
01:56:30FromDiscord<biz> so
01:56:31FromDiscord<biz> im going to
01:56:34FromDiscord<biz> fix that
01:56:36FromDiscord<biz> for myself
01:56:39FromDiscord<biz> :444melodyblush:
01:56:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "Hard to tell" fuck no it's pretty clear
01:56:59FromDiscord<biz> fuck yes
01:57:16FromDiscord<biz> as if i know what the fuck newTree is commonly used in
01:57:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's making a new AST tree, if you havent looked at the macro writeups i provided i highly suggest you do
01:57:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it atleast shows you `dumptree` which will make more sense to you
01:58:00FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef ""Hard to tell" fuck": I meant that it’s hard to distinguish.
01:58:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Speaking of macros @Girvo how goes yours
01:59:47FromDiscord<biz> im
01:59:49FromDiscord<biz> looking at ur code
01:59:54FromDiscord<biz> and github ruined this formatting so bad
01:59:57FromDiscord<biz> cuz wtf is this
02:00:00FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3C
02:00:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No that was me
02:00:13FromDiscord<biz> yea u have brain damage
02:00:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Using lispy code so made it clear
02:00:16FromDiscord<biz> no
02:00:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i fucked up the () placement
02:00:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So the do point was wrong 😄
02:01:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/z6A
02:01:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's mostly proper minus the incorrect indent on `do`
02:02:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> should be indented with the first nnkInfix
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02:23:35FromDiscord<biz> elegant
02:23:39FromDiscord<biz> i was looking thru ur code
02:23:46FromDiscord<biz> and i was curious as to where commandTable is located?
02:23:47FromDiscord<biz> 🤔
02:24:04FromDiscord<biz> actually i see it now
02:42:08FromDiscord<biz> https://github.com/nombiz/nmc
02:42:14FromDiscord<biz> i decided to do it manually but the old way i was doing
02:42:20FromDiscord<biz> not with imports
02:42:27FromDiscord<biz> i find this much more user friendly and i understand everything more
02:42:35FromDiscord<biz> id rather stick with this and then move to a higher level in the future
02:44:35FromDiscord<Rika> whichever you think is best, really
02:44:42FromDiscord<biz> im
02:44:45FromDiscord<biz> at least proud of myself
02:44:50FromDiscord<biz> for mustering up that while
02:44:56FromDiscord<biz> only having experienced a day of nim
02:45:08FromDiscord<Rika> sounds good to me
02:45:16FromDiscord<Rika> i think i took my time learning nim
02:45:27FromDiscord<biz> im slowly adapting
02:45:35FromDiscord<biz> ALSO why does ur name seem so familiar
02:45:39FromDiscord<biz> were u a powercord member
02:45:42FromDiscord<Rika> because it is a common name
02:45:43FromDiscord<Rika> no
02:45:47FromDiscord<biz> o
02:45:52FromDiscord<biz> i knew a rika in powercord
02:45:54FromDiscord<Rika> i was active in the betterdiscord days
02:46:01FromDiscord<Rika> even more in the bandagedbd days
02:46:02FromDiscord<biz> oh
02:46:07FromDiscord<biz> lmao
02:46:10FromDiscord<Rika> now not really no
02:46:23FromDiscord<Rika> theres a lot of Rikas
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03:11:54yoyojambocan I set a main module in .nimble files? like the file that will automatically be built when running 'nimble build
03:12:15yoyojambo*'nimble build'
03:12:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `bin = @["myFile.niim"]`
03:12:38FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> good mornin elegant beef
03:12:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Good evening
03:13:24yoyojamboahh thanks man, I didn't get it when I read it in the Nimble reference but I get it now
03:13:36FromDiscord<huantian> nimble docs are long
03:14:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They might be long, but i cant read!
03:15:08yoyojamboIs there another way to see the docs besides the git repo?
03:15:20FromDiscord<huantian> reading? effort? sounds like work
03:15:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Not that i know, man pages are a myth according to nim afaict
03:15:47yoyojambothanks
03:15:53FromDiscord<huantian> so are info pages 😔
03:23:39nrds<Prestige99> Is there a way with zippy to provide a directory to compress?
03:24:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `compress "myDir"` afaik
03:25:02nrds<Prestige99> it just compressed the text "myDir" lol
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03:27:51nrds<Prestige99> maybe it's just not supported. Docs are very lackluster though
03:28:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I could've swore it was supported
03:28:04FromDiscord<huantian> it has to be something in zippy/ziparchives
03:28:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `createZipArchive`
03:28:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `createTarball` in the `v1` modules
03:28:58FromDiscord<huantian> should also be exported by non-v1 version too
03:29:21nrds<Prestige99> beautiful
03:29:42FromDiscord<huantian> Why does my name have `@huantian:matrix.org` next to it now
03:30:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I wish it was just `createArchive(string, ZipPath or TarballPath)`
03:30:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Distincts \> manually naming the procedure 😛
03:30:26nrds<Prestige99> Thanks for finding that
03:30:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No clue huan
03:33:22FromDiscord<huantian> hm is zippy/ziparchive even documented?
03:33:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No clue i used it forever ago for my Unity buiild system
03:34:02nrds<Prestige99> None of it is documented
03:34:21FromDiscord<huantian> well I guess there's definitly docstrings
03:34:31FromDiscord<huantian> but it doesn't seem like it's been docgened
03:35:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Might be nimdocs not rebuilding for whatever reason
03:36:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> > Made with Nim. Generated\: 2022-03-19 22\:51\:12 UTC
03:36:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hmm seems it should be here
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04:27:45FromDiscord<morgan> is there a way with variant types to have a variable that is the same for two cases?
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04:28:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Names cannot be shared
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04:28:26FromDiscord<morgan> basically i'd like to either have name for both of the top two or do shortname and longname for each of the char/string ones https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959670620210212954/unknown.png
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04:29:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you can make a template or procedure after as a property
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04:29:27FromDiscord<morgan> hm i'll just deal with the different names then
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04:30:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/Vyn
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04:32:14FromDiscord<morgan> mm
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04:33:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> guess it doesnt need the quotes, i'm just silly
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04:34:19FromDiscord<Rika> Was going to ask
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04:34:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also makes more sense if it's writen properly
04:34:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But alas i cannot write properly
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04:34:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cant even write written properly
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04:46:40FromDiscord<kiell> nim moment
04:47:10FromDiscord<Rika> Nah it’s really just beef being beef
04:48:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> yes whatever that means
04:48:46FromDiscord<huantian> indentation is a lie
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05:20:09FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> what is the nim equivalent of
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05:20:36FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> `[...a,...b,c,d,...e]` in javascript
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05:20:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What's that do?
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05:20:58FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> basically joining two array
05:21:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `a & b`?
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05:21:14FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> ...unwraps all elements of the array
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05:21:40FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> yeah that but for simple array[L,T]
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05:22:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> By simple arrays you mean static ones?
05:22:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `array` you mean
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05:22:20FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> yeah just array
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05:22:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim's stdlib doesnt have the operators for them sadly
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05:23:24FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> just looking if someone has made some sugar for that
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05:27:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U3V
05:27:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There you go
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05:33:59FromDiscord<huantian> what's that thing I can use to clear a var set again
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05:34:32FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> thanks elegantBeed
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05:34:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> "clear a var set"?
05:34:39FromDiscord<offbeat-stuff (offbeat-stuff)> Beef\
05:34:56FromDiscord<huantian> wups I mean reset a variable to it's default state
05:35:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `reset`
05:35:08FromDiscord<huantian> that makes sense
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05:44:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well huan i have a silly written RFC for not expanding macro error messages 😛
06:00:55FromDiscord<huantian> I'll check it out!
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06:09:32FromDiscord<morgan> so like variant objects, is it possible to have overloaded procs for each subvariant?
06:10:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U40
06:11:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or put the logic for each kind inside `render` it's up to you there
06:11:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Personally i prefer the above with a `assert circ.kind == circle` for instance
06:12:07FromDiscord<Solitude> https://github.com/alehander92/poly no hecking way...
06:12:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I also did something like that once
06:12:40FromDiscord<Solitude> doesnt count
06:12:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> True
06:13:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Mine did `{.meth: kind.}` and then at the call it converted it into a case stmt
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06:38:18FromDiscord<Rika> Mm meth
06:55:44FromDiscord<abdu> what is empty for untyped data type↵(to be assigned on RHS)
06:56:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> untyped is only a macro/template thing there is no "empty" for it
06:56:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What do you mean exactly?
06:57:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Or should i just wait for the stack overflow/forum post?
06:58:54FromDiscord<abdu> foo( bar:untyped= ) = ↵how empty default e,g, above
06:59:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You cannot
06:59:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you do `foo()` and `foo(bar: untyped)`
06:59:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> an empty untyped doesnt make any sense
07:00:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> untyped means "the compiler hasnt typed the code" so there cannot be a 'empty' for it
07:00:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Atleast not an empty useful in dispatch
07:01:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Also doesnt help that the right hand of `=` inside a parameter list needs to be compilable code
07:03:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A full example of your code would be more insightful if those answers dont suffice
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07:23:46FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U4d
07:25:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U4f
07:25:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Damn iit
07:25:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U4g
07:25:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> replace tuple with object idealy
07:26:01FromDiscord<Hamid_Bluri> thanks
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08:03:59FromDiscord<WabileM> Is there an example of coding a telnet client in Nim? I have searched nimble for a telnet client and there is none.
08:06:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There are only two repos on github with `telnet` and both are hacking related, so seems no one has one
08:13:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The protocol is supposedly simple so should be connect with a TCP socket then parse the protocol using something like binarylang or your own manual one
08:22:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I must be an idiot cause i cannot find a good explanation of the protocol
08:44:09FromDiscord<enthus1ast> do stuff\\n
08:44:45FromDiscord<enthus1ast> an AsyncSocket and readLine and send is all you need
08:45:39FromDiscord<enthus1ast> but mirai is open source, why do you not use that for your botnet? ;)
08:46:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hey they might just want to learn how!
08:46:39FromDiscord<enthus1ast> hey im just trying to help \:)
09:18:32NimEventerNew thread by Volodymyr: Times - Intended use and difference between DateTime and Time, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9067
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13:04:06FromDiscord<TryAngle> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/cuW
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13:06:40FromDiscord<TryAngle> oh! I could have just looked into docs and I would have found iterator keys(node: JsonNode): string {.....}
13:06:44FromDiscord<TryAngle> (edit) "iterator" => "`iterator" | "{.....}" => "{.....}`"
13:13:35FromDiscord<slymilano> Nim is at the top of /r/selfhosted now 😩
13:20:57FromDiscord<auxym> that's cool
13:24:06FromDiscord<Rika> where?
13:25:30FromDiscord<Rika> oh there
13:28:52FromDiscord<ajusa> torrentinim I assume
13:30:31FromDiscord<ajusa> or nitter
13:42:41FromDiscord<auxym> torrentinim
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14:57:03FromDiscord<federico3> huh? where?
14:57:34FromDiscord<federico3> oh, found it
15:01:27FromDiscord<federico3> "Run without ceremony. You download a binary, run it, that's it. Really"
15:01:46FromDiscord<federico3> how about no?
15:08:12NimEventerNew thread by Teras: Control+C and procs launched with execCmd, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9069
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15:22:02FromDiscord<leolecrado> hi, i'm new to nim and I downloaded NimEdit IDE on windows, but when running the exe, nothing appears
15:22:39FromDiscord<leolecrado> (nim is on path, can do 'nim -v' on cmd), and I also tried the nimlib.cfg thing as suggested on the download page
15:22:48FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "cmd)," => "cmd," | "page" => "page)"
15:23:14FromDiscord<leolecrado> Does someone know how I can make NimEdit on my windows pc ?
15:23:24FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "Does someone know how I can make NimEdit ... on" added "run"
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15:28:40FromDiscord<xflywind> In reply to @leolecrado "hi, i'm new to": nimedit is a bit old project: see https://github.com/Araq/nimedit/issues/18
15:29:32FromDiscord<xflywind> see also https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Editor-Support
15:33:41FromDiscord<slymilano> In reply to @federico3 "how about no?": what do you mean?
15:36:59FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @flywind "nimedit is a bit": ok, and is there any other windows compatible nim only IDE ?
15:39:11FromDiscord<demotomohiro> https://github.com/fox0430/moe
15:39:34FromDiscord<demotomohiro> It is written in Nim
15:41:17FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Most of people use vs code or vim/neovim to write Nim code.↵https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Editor-Support
15:48:08FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @demotomohiro "https://github.com/fox0430/moe": Ok, the moe editor doesn't look good to me↵I'm looking for this because I saw the power of having an IDE made specially for the language. Pharo IDE gives amazing powers to the smalltalk devs.
15:48:44FromDiscord<leolecrado> Something like Pharo for nim would be sooo nice
15:52:51FromDiscord<Patitotective> In reply to @demotomohiro "Most of people use": what about sublime? :p
15:53:30FromDiscord<huantian> I think there have been attempts to make an IDE in Nim for Nim but those have just died
15:53:42FromDiscord<huantian> And most people moved to VSCode or Vim
15:53:50FromDiscord<huantian> Nim definitely needs better tooling though
15:58:52FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @huantian "I think there have": you have the "bot" blue tag. You're a bot ?
15:58:53FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @Patitotective This is the result of Nim survay: https://nim-lang.org/blog/2022/01/14/community-survey-results-2021.html
15:59:29FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @leolecrado "you have the "bot"": no, bridged from other chat servioe
15:59:30FromDiscord<Rika> (edit) "servioe" => "service"
15:59:57FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @Rika "no, bridged from other": What ? so he is a bot or not ?
16:00:08FromDiscord<Rika> not a bot
16:00:16FromDiscord<Rika> hes just using something else than discord
16:00:31FromDiscord<leolecrado> oh ok, so discord tags externals to "bot"
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16:00:41FromDiscord<Patitotective> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@762008715162419261> This is the": :C
16:00:58FromDiscord<demotomohiro> It is a freqently asked question: https://internet-of-tomohiro.netlify.app/nim/faq.en.html#community-are-bots-in-nim-discord-channel-aiqmark
16:03:28FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@762008715162419261> This is the": Yes, it's obvious that nim users mostly use VSCode, because that's the most user friendly thing today↵I just think that VSCode is not the optimal editor reachable, and Pharo showed for smalltalk that a tailor made editor can be very cool
16:03:45FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "In reply to @demotomohiro "<@762008715162419261> This is the": Yes, it's obvious that nim users mostly use VSCode, because that's the most user friendly thing ... today↵I" added "available"
16:04:16FromDiscord<Rika> a tailor made editor is also very expensive, whether it be time or whichever other resource
16:06:00FromDiscord<Phil> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U6H
16:06:25FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U6H" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U6I"
16:08:31FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @Rika "a tailor made editor": True, yet, making nim has been even more expensive, and we won't have nim if the creator followed the same reasoning
16:08:45FromDiscord<Rika> no, thats not the logic here
16:08:48FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "won't" => "wouldn't"
16:08:55FromDiscord<Rika> you're compounding expenses, theyre not independent
16:09:11FromDiscord<Rika> making nim is one, making a tailor made editor is an addition
16:09:17FromDiscord<Rika> we have a limit here
16:10:05FromDiscord<leolecrado> Of course I see, I think it shouldn't be a weight on the creator(s) of nim, I think more of a community project
16:10:25FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Isofruit "Erm... If I want": when you raise exceptions it's like this under-the-hood: `raise (ref TError)(msg: "", ...)`
16:10:36FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "project" => "project↵They are already doing much on the language itself"
16:10:36FromDiscord<Rika> we dont have a large community
16:10:49FromDiscord<Rika> we're already struggling with the normal tooling
16:11:04FromDiscord<Phil> Wait, right, weren't you supposed to always do raise `newException( type, msg)`? Forgot about that one
16:11:15FromDiscord<Rika> `newException` compiles to what i said
16:11:19FromDiscord<Rika> check the definition 😛
16:11:21FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "raise `newException(" => "`raise newException("
16:11:57FromDiscord<Phil> sees nil as the default argument
16:12:03FromDiscord<Phil> My eeeeeyyeeeeeees
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16:12:11FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "argument" => "argument for parent exception"
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16:13:10FromDiscord<Rika> nil
16:13:22FromDiscord<Rika> `raise (ref Defect)(nil)`?
16:13:26FromDiscord<Rika> heehee
16:13:45FromDiscord<Phil> > template newException(exceptn: typedesc, message: string;↵> parentException: ref Exception = nil): untyped =↵Mostly just joking around since it's pretty unusual for me to spot a nil in the wild
16:13:45FromDiscord<Rika> dont ask me what it does
16:14:02FromDiscord<Rika> idk what that parent exception thing is tbh, you could prolly ignore it
16:14:13FromDiscord<Phil> Nah, I know what that is
16:14:17FromDiscord<Phil> Exceptions can cause exceptions
16:14:36PMunchIf you catch an exception in your library and want to pass it up the chain but wrap it up with some extra information you can use a parent exception
16:14:42FromDiscord<Phil> Often enough you have usecases where you catch an exception and re-throw it as a different one with a better error message, you can then attach the old one for a more complete stacktrace so you don't lose where the thing originated
16:14:43FromDiscord<Rika> congrats on reading more than i do
16:15:09FromDiscord<Phil> It's more that java does this
16:15:11FromDiscord<Phil> A lot
16:16:05FromDiscord<huantian> Classic vertical monitor to read stack traces joke
16:16:44FromDiscord<Phil> So from how I understand the template it essentially just builds an expression `ErrorType(msg: <my message text>, parent: <ref to parent exception or nil>)`
16:17:22FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @huantian "Classic vertical monitor to": stack traces longer than my resume
16:17:46FromDiscord<Phil> When your mousewheel runs hot from scrolling so much
16:18:25FromDiscord<Rika> when you need to buy a logitech mouse just so you could scroll to the bottom without breaking the mouse
16:18:42FromDiscord<Rika> for context logitech mice have a free scroll wheel toggle
16:18:57FromDiscord<Phil> Yeh, I own a bluetooth one with a bluetooth keyboard mixed in
16:19:16FromDiscord<Rika> really handy btw, lets you scroll faster than your terminal can usually render shit lol unless you use kitty 😎
16:20:01FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @Rika "we dont have a": I heard that smalltalk had a very small community↵I'm very curious to know how the achieved pharo then 🤔
16:20:08FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "the" => "they"
16:20:16FromDiscord<Rika> probably focused on that?
16:20:47FromDiscord<huantian> Yes I love this feature never switching away from my g502↵(@Rika)
16:20:52FromDiscord<Rika> i mean i wouldnt say nim cant do it, its just not what we think is something to delve into right now since we have some other more pressing problems i'd say
16:20:59FromDiscord<Rika> oh nice i also got a g502
16:21:11FromDiscord<Rika> i put all the weights in it cuz im a heavy mouse dude, i dont play fps anywya
16:21:51FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @Rika "i mean i wouldnt": ohh ok, there is somewhere I can see the priorities of the community ? (i'm new, pardon me)
16:22:11FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @demotomohiro "<@762008715162419261> This is the": prolly this one lol
16:22:47FromDiscord<huantian> I kept the weights out mostly because I couldn’t feel a difference with them in or out↵(@Rika)
16:23:47FromDiscord<Recruit_main707> In reply to @leolecrado "ohh ok, there is": dont worry, feel free to ask anything else
16:30:31FromDiscord<leolecrado> In reply to @Recruit_main707 "dont worry, feel free": ty, very nice of you 🙂↵Speaking about community size, do you have any idea how to measure the size of a community ?
16:31:08FromDiscord<leolecrado> By the number of people on the discord ?↵By the number of PRs on the github repo ?↵by the number of contributors on the github repo ?
16:31:53FromDiscord<leolecrado> For the purpose of estimating the power of the community to make new things, or resolve issues
16:32:01FromDiscord<leolecrado> (edit) "things," => "things"
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16:59:52FromDiscord<Solitude> its about 200 power
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18:02:29FromDiscord<abdu> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You cannot": suffices it, sure
18:05:53FromDiscord<thadeudepaula> sent a long message, see http://ix.io/3U78
18:05:57FromDiscord<thadeudepaula> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959876357880430632/IMG_20220402_150410_540.png
18:08:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nimsuggest has a bug presently it's probably jusut that, if you dont need anything in 1.6 it doesnt appear with 1.4
18:11:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd suggest making an issue just to raise it up
18:11:46FromDiscord<thadeudepaula> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Nimsuggest has a bug": As I'm learning it is a problem...
18:12:02FromDiscord<thadeudepaula> ok, I'll head there
18:12:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Between 1.4 and 1.6 a bug was introduced which results in nimsuggest getting different pointers for values and erroring, it's a shame, but it is what it is
18:15:42FromDiscord<thadeudepaula> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Between 1.4 and 1.6": Thank you, at least my reasoning about code is ok :)
18:16:20FromDiscord<Pegacraffft> Is there a way to create a pointer with a memory address i choose?
18:17:48FromDiscord<abdu> what actually differnce between mixin and {.inject.} as how it functionals?
18:18:34FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @Pegacraffft "Is there a way": think you can `cast` a the value into a ptr
18:19:01FromDiscord<Pegacraffft> In reply to @huantian "think you can `cast`": how would that look like?
18:21:30FromDiscord<Pegacraffft> In reply to @huantian "think you can `cast`": Okay, tried it, works ^^ Thanks
18:23:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They're 100% unrelated↵(@abdu)
18:23:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `mixin` adds scope on instantiation and `inject` doesnt gensym a symbol
18:25:07NimEventerNew thread by Mardiyah: Clarity on mixin and pragma {.inject.}, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9070
18:25:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I swear
18:30:09PMunch@abdu, please ask your question one place at a time and accept the answers your get instead of posting it everywhere at the same time
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18:41:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Thanks pmunch 🙂
18:42:12PMunchFor what?
18:42:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> My version of that had a few more aggressive words
18:47:05PMunchHaha :P
19:35:56FromDiscord<hmmm> pmunchie is a diplomat 😛
19:43:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Hey i'm also a diplomat but more like ukraine's UN diplomat 😛
20:05:17FromDiscord<hmmm> uh oh """ """ doesn't work with
20:05:18FromDiscord<hmmm> \r\n
20:05:24FromDiscord<hmmm> but " " does
20:05:46FromDiscord<hmmm> anything I can do to make """ """ work with those 🤔
20:06:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> they're raw string literals, you need to process them to get `\r\n` to work
20:06:32FromDiscord<hmmm> hmm
20:06:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> there is `unescape` and `escape` depending on what you need
20:08:02FromDiscord<hmmm> hmm I'll look into them
20:08:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Actually i dont think those work as i thought
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20:12:01FromDiscord<hmmm> lol the caveman way works """" something """ & "\r\n" & """ something else """ but I wish I had better options lol
20:12:13FromDiscord<Jakraes> Quick question, is is possible to have conditional statements inside of switch cases?
20:12:18FromDiscord<Jakraes> Something like
20:12:48FromDiscord<Jakraes> switch (temp):↵ case temp < 10:↵ do something
20:12:51FromDiscord<hmmm> jak my bro how is the roguelike goin
20:13:26FromDiscord<Jakraes> Heya there, both goat and I are taking a pause but as soon as I can get back to it I will
20:13:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7x
20:14:09FromDiscord<Jakraes> In reply to @hmmm "jak my bro how": But you can test the newest version here
20:14:10FromDiscord<Jakraes> https://github.com/Jakraes/TestNimHack/
20:14:44FromDiscord<hmmm> 4 sure I want to hop on the bandwagon soon, I think I have 1 or 2 weeks more to finish my current app and then I'm free
20:15:44FromDiscord<Jakraes> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7z
20:16:11FromDiscord<Jakraes> Nice, all help is appreciated, I'd like to make this a community wide project for anyone that wants to join tbh
20:16:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7A
20:16:42FromDiscord<Jakraes> Even if the code ends up being spaghetti, it'd still be fun to see a roguelike made like that
20:17:00FromDiscord<Jakraes> Gotcha, so basically any number that is between 0 and 30 will echo hmm
20:17:13FromDiscord<Jakraes> Lemme try that out then
20:17:14FromDiscord<hmmm> yea it's fun
20:17:45FromDiscord<Jakraes> Yup, so far I'm learning a crapton from this project tbh
20:18:47FromDiscord<Jakraes> I think I'll be taking a lot of inspiration from DF and Ultima Ratio Regum
20:18:55FromDiscord<Jakraes> World generation wise
20:19:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea you also could do `if x in 0f..30f`
20:19:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim has a bunch of built in ergonomic solutions
20:19:50FromDiscord<Jakraes> A thing that I love about URR is that it has really cool graphics when showing off certain objects
20:20:23FromDiscord<Jakraes> Oh yeah true, I wanted to use something that looks cleaner though, which is why I went for switch cases
20:23:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They're called casestatments 😛
20:24:45FromDiscord<Anuke> Why does copyMem segfault here? https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7C
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20:26:49FromDiscord<Phil> Huh... turns out std/json can't deal with `Table[int64, string]`↵(Throws `type mismatch: got <KeyValuePair[system.int, system.string]> but expected one of: <A LOT OF EXAMPLES>` )
20:27:11FromDiscord<Anuke> In reply to @Anuke "Why does copyMem segfault": Context: I'm trying to convert a C-string with arbitrary data in it to a string, as per <https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3850>↵The cstring data is alloc'd and passed into a C function outside the snippet, but that doesn't seem to affect the segfault
20:27:15FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "<KeyValuePair[system.int," => "<KeyValuePair[system.int64,"
20:29:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you're passing `addr pointer`
20:29:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Works fine
20:29:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7F
20:30:13FromDiscord<Anuke> Originally I was using `cstring` for assetData - that's a pointer and doesn't need `addr`?
20:30:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `addr pointer` is a pointer to the stack `assetData` then you attempt to copy `size` from there and causes it to dereference ahead stack
20:30:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> cstring is `ptr char` internally
20:30:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you only need `addr` when you want to copy from a stack variable in this case
20:31:19FromDiscord<Anuke> right, so I was double-addressing, thanks
20:31:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> no problem
20:32:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a shame `$` doesnt have an optional len parameter for `cstring`
20:34:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7G
21:00:25FromDiscord<hmmm> hmmm what's the difference between datetime and time? when I echo them they seem the same but I can't comprare them with > <
21:00:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/9067
21:01:20FromDiscord<morgan> i am really confused what the compiler doesn't like about this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959920494029733928/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959920494264598588/unknown.png
21:01:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I havent said anything cause i dont really know, but i think `Time` is more meant for local time stamps and the sort and `DateTime` is for interacting with time from any source
21:01:51FromDiscord<hmmm> "For conversion from Time to DateTime, you have local(dt:DateTime) and utc(dt:DateTime)"
21:02:04FromDiscord<hmmm> ok beefy what do I want here, time to datetime or the other
21:02:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Compiiler error morgan?
21:02:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah nvm
21:02:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `cv` is not mutable
21:02:28FromDiscord<morgan> ah
21:02:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> do `cv: var CommandVariant`
21:02:46FromDiscord<morgan> thanks
21:02:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Your error message says that in it somewhere
21:03:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If the tooling error message doesnt help refer to the compiler
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21:04:00FromDiscord<morgan> all it said that could be hinting at that was all the non-ref table types had var in the signature
21:04:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm certain the mismatches will say `expected var CommandSubvariant but got CommandSubVariant`
21:04:47FromDiscord<morgan> nope
21:04:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I know they do
21:04:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont lie to me
21:05:25FromDiscord<morgan> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959921515325980682/unknown.png
21:05:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Compiler error mesage
21:05:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> COMPILER
21:05:52FromDiscord<morgan> oh you mean run it and see what that says?
21:06:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah this is actually a rare case where it doesnt
21:06:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I take it back
21:06:42FromDiscord<hmmm> beefy you can't take an all caps compiler back like that
21:06:45FromDiscord<morgan> lol
21:06:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Too many overloads so it doesnt mention the var mismatch
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21:07:19FromDiscord<hmmm> it is expected you send a nice emoticon to take that back
21:07:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Compiler still needs to explicitly state when the mismatch is due to immutabillity
21:08:02FromDiscord<morgan> yeah there are some error messages that have been very cryptic
21:08:13FromDiscord<morgan> i had one in another that was solved by adding a var
21:08:18FromDiscord<morgan> lemme see if it mentioned that
21:08:21FromDiscord<hmmm> anyway I decided Time is for boomers and i will local(Time) to the new and shiny DateTime, seems the only progressive thing to do 🧐
21:08:36FromDiscord<morgan> just says it can't be assigned to
21:08:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Feel free to write them down when you hit them, can encourage improving errors
21:09:31FromDiscord<morgan> would be cool if there's a way to get some error id so i could say error 69420 needs improving or whatever
21:09:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean you can just say the type of error
21:09:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There arent many
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21:10:50FromDiscord<morgan> ah ok
21:11:07FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I do like the idea of improving errors, some are more difficult to improve and might cause people to be angry though
21:11:34FromDiscord<hmmm> angry people are my speciality, send them to me
21:12:42FromDiscord<morgan> yea it would be nice to have something as friendly as rust's error messages
21:12:57FromDiscord<morgan> one that trips me up is the error on tabs instead of spaces
21:13:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What do you mean?
21:13:14FromDiscord<morgan> since i press tab to indent 4 spaces instead of pressing space some number of times
21:13:25FromDiscord<morgan> and it doesn't mention that it's because of a tab char
21:13:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well that's what a tab is
21:13:39FromDiscord<morgan> and vscode seems to have that as a file setting not a workspace setting
21:13:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Your tab key doesnt generally insert actual tabs in most editors
21:14:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Editors generally default to spaces funnily enough
21:14:18FromDiscord<morgan> no it works as a tab char in vscode
21:14:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So many people are like "I hate spaces" but use spaces
21:14:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No vscode defaults to spaces
21:14:33FromDiscord<morgan> unless you set it to insert spaces
21:14:47FromDiscord<morgan> ok well then some number of years ago i set it to use tabs
21:14:54FromDiscord<morgan> as a general setting
21:14:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It defaults to spaces but also can detect indentation
21:15:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Anyway i think for this given error a simple "Atleast one mismatch is due to immutable `insertSymbolHere`"
21:15:52FromDiscord<morgan> im just saying that when someone uses a tab character, it should give a more helpful error message
21:16:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It gives a helpful one
21:16:53FromDiscord<morgan> oh now it does
21:17:07FromDiscord<morgan> a couple days ago it gave me something super confusing
21:17:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Were you perhaps on an old nim version?
21:17:42FromDiscord<morgan> i did recently update vscode so it might've been using an old version of some extension
21:18:17FromDiscord<morgan> aha there's a weird error message when i run it
21:18:25FromDiscord<morgan> `...tempCodeRunnerFile.nim(1, 4) Error: expression expected, but found ':'`
21:18:37FromDiscord<morgan> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959924843552321576/unknown.png
21:18:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> code?
21:18:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You really hate me
21:19:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> all the way back to 0.13.0 the compiler gives a tabs not allowed\\
21:19:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim -v?
21:20:29FromDiscord<morgan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7T
21:20:40FromDiscord<morgan> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U7U
21:21:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959925517765734420/image.png
21:21:38FromDiscord<morgan> huh
21:22:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Even with nimsuggest the first errors are about tabs
21:22:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/959925876689109032/image.png
21:27:54FromDiscord<morgan> gotta figure out how i installed nim to try updating it
21:28:58FromDiscord<morgan> cos choosenim isn't resolving
21:30:08FromDiscord<morgan> nimble isn't either
21:30:09FromDiscord<morgan> wtf
21:31:06FromDiscord<morgan> maybe it's suggested fish command needs to be run when fish starts up because it's not storing it right
21:31:59FromDiscord<morgan> ok yeah up to date
21:33:48FromDiscord<morgan> maybe it's specific to the mac build
21:34:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Is it the compiler giving that message or the tooling?
21:34:50FromDiscord<morgan> In reply to @MorganAlyssa "`...tempCodeRunnerFile.nim(1, 4) Error: expression": `nim compile --verbosity:0 --hints:off --run [file]`
21:35:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i get the proper error here
21:35:54FromDiscord<morgan> weird
21:35:59FromDiscord<morgan> anyways i gotta go
21:36:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> only difference is you're on mac
21:39:10FromDiscord<biz> can you use a variable inside of itself
21:39:11FromDiscord<biz> like
21:39:22FromDiscord<biz> the sequence inside of the sequence itself
21:39:51FromDiscord<biz> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U82
21:40:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The procedure would have to become a closure and the proc assigned after the construction
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23:27:09FromDiscord<salt> is it possible to drop the `all_classes` table and somehow bind the idents (for bases) in the macro? I get errors when I use bindsym: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U8x
23:28:50FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> what do you mean exactly?
23:31:29FromDiscord<salt> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3U8C
23:32:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Where would `base`'s sym even exist?
23:33:29FromDiscord<salt> i assume it does after the previous macros are called and some classes exist --- that is, classes in the bases portion of the macro should be defined already
23:36:34FromDiscord<salt> maybe they don't, i don't really know how and when macros are expanded in the compiler or anything
23:41:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They'e expanded chronologically
23:41:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can try bindsym with `{.experimental: "dynamicBindSym".}` but i dont think it'll work, could be wrong
23:42:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> you could use the macro cache and have the macro subscribe itself after generating
23:42:56FromDiscord<salt> i was thinking by the time i got to the `class K1(...)` the idents inside the `...` could be bound
23:43:14FromDiscord<salt> or looked up without a table
23:43:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well you could have `typed`
23:43:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The right hand of the class macro could be typed
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23:44:06FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But it means you do `class A, (C, B, A)` or similar
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23:45:23FromDiscord<salt> maybe `class K1 of C, B, A`?
23:45:34FromDiscord<salt> i don't know if that can be typed either
23:45:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The issue there is that's not valid code
23:45:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> typed has to correct
23:46:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Like i said though the macro can subscribe the type at the end
23:47:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://paste.rs/7CT
23:47:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> subscribe as the name implies adds `A` to a `macrocache.CacheSeq`
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23:48:48FromDiscord<salt> i will try and experiment with this, thanks
23:49:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Depending on how this is supposed to be used you could make all your operators on that type be macros that check the table for `val.eqIdent mySym`
23:49:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Then use `mySym` for the operation
23:50:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The cacheseq of course means you have a single instance of any name
23:51:28FromDiscord<salt> the use is for inheritable behaviors (that can redefine methods) in a widget-ful library -- truth is, i don't really need full C3 linearization, but it was easy enough to implement
23:51:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Are you doing MI related inheritance?
23:52:11FromDiscord<salt> not MI, but TUI widgets
23:52:56FromDiscord<salt> attributes and methods will probably be a chainmap of tables from the mro
23:53:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I do have to ask what's wrong with Nim's OOP?
23:53:26FromDiscord<salt> behaviors that overwrite methods aren't possible with single inheritance
23:53:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> An example of this?
23:54:03FromDiscord<Tuatarian> is there a good way to modify an iterator?
23:54:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Copy it and modify it
23:54:29FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Unless you mean something other than the source code
23:54:33FromDiscord<Tuatarian> that's unfortunate
23:54:37FromDiscord<Tuatarian> nope that's exactly what I meant
23:54:45FromDiscord<Tuatarian> I want to make walkDir just give me paths
23:54:59FromDiscord<Tuatarian> weird that this isn't a thing built in tbh
23:55:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You know it can
23:55:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You want to iterate only directories?
23:56:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Dont know if it'll work the same but `walkDirRec(path, yieldFiter: {pcDir}, folloFilter ={})` might work
23:56:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> followFilter\
23:56:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Assuming you want only directories
23:56:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> also `yieldFilter = {pcDir}`
23:56:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont know what "paths" means exactly
23:57:18FromDiscord<Tuatarian> like the path to the fille
23:57:33FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So you just dont want the path component?
23:57:39FromDiscord<Tuatarian> I want only the pth component
23:57:45FromDiscord<Tuatarian> don't need the kind component
23:57:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> the kind is the path component
23:58:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `for (_, path) in walkDir("someDir")`
23:58:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's why it doesnt exist
23:58:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Might even be able to do `for _, path in walkDir("someDir")`
23:58:44FromDiscord<Tuatarian> now I'm more confused lmao
23:58:51FromDiscord<Tuatarian> it gives a tupe of (kind, path) right?
23:58:54FromDiscord<Tuatarian> I just want the path
23:58:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What?
23:59:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I just showed you how to get just the path
23:59:21FromDiscord<Tuatarian> ohh I see
23:59:29FromDiscord<Tuatarian> is there any way to make that work in toSeq?
23:59:36FromDiscord<Tuatarian> or would I use collect() for this?
23:59:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I question why you're using toseq 😛