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03:57:35FromGitter<zacharycarter> IMO - Spring Framework was not fun at all to use and revolved heavily around IoC / DI - that was its primary focus
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03:58:12FromGitter<zacharycarter> trying to track down where an implementation was configured and where it was used, etc... was annoying to say the least, especially in a new code base
03:58:46FromGitter<zacharycarter> I know about the purported benefits - but I rarely saw them pay off
04:26:27FromGitter<Varriount> @zacharycarter Interestingly, I've been working with an application that uses Spring.
04:28:07FromGitter<Varriount> *Theoretically* it has a bunch of extension points, but debugging those extension points ("why isn't this configuration file being picked up") is quite difficult to do.
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05:59:39FromGitter<zacharycarter> @Varriount - yeah, it can be extremely annoying
05:59:57FromGitter<zacharycarter> but I have a feeling that has more to do with the implementation of the framework itself vs the concept of IoC
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06:01:17FromGitter<zacharycarter> still though - when you use a DI framework like Spring I feel like you spend more time configuring your project and implementing the various interfaces provided and then you rarely if ever actually change those implementations or re-use them in a lot of places
06:01:50FromGitter<zacharycarter> I suppose it depends entirely on how big / complex your project is - but we were always building services in our projects and I never say DI pay off dividends
06:02:07FromGitter<zacharycarter> and I did this for a number of years
06:04:30FromGitter<zacharycarter> @krux02 - do you have any resource recommendations for learning Scala?
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07:43:51travissanyone know if there is a way to deserialize js objects where the keys don't have quotes? I am hoping to be able to do `let foo = parseJson(""" {foo: 1} """)`
07:44:16disrupteksadly, that's not json.
07:46:14travissyeah, i have a large js object file i'm hoping to avoid using quotes all the time.
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07:47:35disruptekare you composing this file by hand?
07:47:46travissmaybe i'll look at converting to yaml. i think i can still use to() with yaml..
07:47:58travissyeah, i'm typing it by hand right now
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07:50:21disrupteksomething with support for comments would be my suggestion.
07:51:16FromGitter<rokups> i noticed that yaml is not that human-friendly once file grows very big
07:51:42FromGitter<mratsim> that's because big files are not human friendly ;)
07:52:31FromGitter<rokups> but for some reason json or even well-formed xml is easier to deal with than yaml. yaml is just too complex
07:53:26travissyeah i think i agree now that i'm looking at some yaml. i wish there was a format which resembled nim/python (no curly braces and respects indentation) without quoted keys.
07:53:41disruptekmaybe you should wrap dhall for us. ;-)
07:54:12travissi haven't heard of it. i'll have a look.
07:56:18FromGitter<rokups> there always is http://openddl.org/
07:56:38FromGitter<rokups> i have not used it but looks good on paper
07:58:00travissdisruptek: do you have a link to the dhall project you're referring to?
07:58:26disruptekdhall-lang.org
07:59:40FromGitter<rokups> functions in configuration file..? ill pass :]
07:59:59FromGitter<rokups> and i said yaml was too complex :D
08:01:45travissyeah, looks like a neat project, but more than what I need right now.
08:02:08ehmryits natural if you are comming from nix, but, maybe only if you are coming from nix
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08:31:52Araqhttps://www.twitch.tv/araq4k it's streaming time
08:32:02Araqeventually I'll also figure out how to record it
08:32:32FromGitter<rokups> obs must be able to dump video to the file as well
08:32:56Araqmy obs doesn't support it anymore
08:33:06Araqit reports some error and then refuses
08:33:33FromGitter<rokups> odd. well dunno, only thing i use obs for is replay buffer in case anything fun happens on my gaming sessions ^_^
08:56:28leorize_twitch doesn't record streams automatically?
08:57:43TangerHmmm, when I wrap my AsyncSocket in an SL context with wrapSocket or wrapConnectedSocket, it seems to double up the connection
08:59:07TangerAre there still many issues with ssl and async?
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09:04:40narimiranleorize_: i thought it does, but Araq doesn't seem to make it work
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09:28:52FromGitter<alehander42> Idlework, sorrrry!
09:41:12AraqTanger, I think you are not supposed to do wrapConnectedSocket on your own
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09:46:27livcdPMunch: i cant find your blog
09:46:50livcdgot it!
09:46:55kuonHello, I have an existing C app I'd like to extend with nim code. I use meson for building, and I am wondering what approach you recommend? Should I build nim code to .c and add this to my meson build, or should I write a main.nim and call C and nim code from there, having nim produce the final binary?
09:48:37Zevvkuon: I guess there is no single best way - I've used both approaches, whatever suits you best. Compiling the Nim code yourself is not trivial, but very doable.
09:49:14ZevvI think a lot depends on where you want your 'main' to live. If you are ok with Nim taking the lead, you could also see if you can compile your C code to a lib and link to that.
09:49:16FromDiscord_<djazz> Yes, Twitch can record your streams. They will be available for 2 weeks I think?
09:49:34FromDiscord_<djazz> You can keep/download them if you want too
09:52:39kuonI guess having nim take the lead and compile it all might be easier. I am just wondering how I can reproduce the meson build with nim. Bus as you said, I could build a lib with meson.
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09:53:45kuonI usually use lua for this kind of "extension", but I wanted to give nim a try.
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09:56:27ZevvNim has a very different 'feel' to it then Lua. I started from the same perspective, looking for something better to replace Lua, but then I ended up doing basically everything in Nim
09:57:33kuonThat is also what I am starting to think. But that's good, I've been writing C for 25 years, but the less I can write the better, sadly I haven't found a better combo than C+lua yet.
09:58:05kuonI love nim approach because it has really easy C interop while having a lot of thing I love from lua.
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10:05:29ZevvI came from exactly your place. 25+ years of C, 15 years ago started to add Lua where appropriate. At the end I got sick and tired of the lack of typing and compile time analisys. Nim has been a very good replacement for the C+Lua combo. The only thing I miss is the flexibility of using Lua as configuration language, but no one is keeping you from doing Nim+Lua as well.
10:06:05ZevvThe things I wanted from Lua which C could not offer were mainly easier handling of text, async (coroutines) and low-effort C interfacing
10:06:08ZevvNim has all that
10:07:19kuonYeah, lua as configuration file is quite nice, but yeah, you can drop lua in a nim app, and I use exactly lua for the same reasons
10:07:52ZevvLua was all new and experimental and unknown when I started using it, and that ended up never to be a problem. It was probably lucky that it kind of took up and survived all these years. Araq is a bit like Ierusalimschy - he has strong opinions about how things should work, he cares for the users.
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10:08:30ZevvThe biggest difference is that Lua is really mean and lean, and Nim is quite extensive - the Nim book would end up somewhat thicker then PIL
10:09:34kuonWell, as long as it's not C++ :P
10:09:41FromGitter<rokups> > The only thing I miss is the flexibility of using Lua as configuration language ⏎ ⏎ but nimble uses nim as configuration language
10:10:01Zevvtrue, there is nimscript
10:12:12FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> `type VectorConcept[N: static int,T] {.explain.} = concept v, type V ⏎ v[int] is T ⏎ type Type = stripGenericParams(V)[N,T]`
10:12:19FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> ahh one sec
10:12:59FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> https://pastebin.com/raw/X67wTU3m
10:14:00FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> that `type Type = stripGenericParams(V)[N,T]` line .. is that the canonical way to grab the matched type? like a function that wants to return the type back: `proc foo(v: VectorConcept): v.Type = ...`
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10:24:20kuonyeah it works :P I wrote a main.nim calling my older main.c main func, the tricky part was to get compilation working (I cross compile for an embedded CPU).
10:24:55kuonFrom here I can start to expose C bits to nim and assemble them there
10:25:18kuonbut before that, dinner:) thanks for the discussion, see you around.
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10:54:29Zevvs
11:00:43FromGitter<mratsim> @mohamedmoussa89 you can use genericHead from typetraits
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11:06:36FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> ah
11:06:39FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> I see that in the manual now
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11:22:02FromGitter<mratsim> btw, what kind of libraries are you writing?
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11:31:38FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> Nothing serious, just playing around with Nim after I get home from work. Started working on a ray tracer (following PBR book) and got side tracked :)
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11:35:15FromGitter<mratsim> Sounds fun, there are already 2 raytracers in Nim from John Novak and def-pri-pub
11:35:36FromGitter<mratsim> also there was recently an implementation in Go, Rust and another language of the same raytracer
11:35:46FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> Zig?
11:35:56federico3https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20325638 anyone wants to reply with a Nim example?
11:41:35FromGitter<mratsim> maybe yes
11:41:39federico3http://blog.johnnovak.net/tag/nim/
11:43:16FromGitter<zacharycarter> which book @mohamedmoussa89 ?
11:43:22FromGitter<mratsim> I would love to learn Ray Tracing but I don't have time
11:43:31FromGitter<mratsim> Peter SHirley, RayTracing in a weekend I guess
11:44:46FromGitter<mohamedmoussa89> http://www.pbr-book.org/
11:45:05FromGitter<mratsim> ah not the same one
11:48:24FromGitter<mratsim> Interesting, there is a Kd-tree implementation: https://github.com/mmp/pbrt-v3/blob/master/src/accelerators/kdtreeaccel.cpp
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11:56:36xacelivcd: Did you ever start making that nim-based android launcher?
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12:46:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> @mohamedmoussa89 - ah that one! that's the one I figured you were referring to. thanks!
12:48:01FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm itching to get out of work and go work on graphics code
12:48:08FromGitter<zacharycarter> I've had enough Scala for today
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13:05:20livcdxace: nope
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13:09:31FromGitter<zacharycarter> would that be like Nim interoping with Java?
13:09:37FromGitter<zacharycarter> or would you use the NDK?
13:09:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> the android NDK is terrible btw
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14:02:06lqdev[m]seems like the Nim VS Code extension is dead, for some reason it doesn't work for me anymore
14:02:32FromGitter<rokups> define "doesnt work"
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14:04:18FromGitter<rokups> it works on my end
14:15:46thejuI am working on interfacing the tesseract ocr library with nim based on a small C++ snippet and am running into an error
14:16:01thejuwould appreciate if someone can help me figure out what may be causing the error
14:16:19thejuthe relevant c++ snippet, nim snippet and the error are at https://dpaste.de/tJ8o/raw
14:16:48thejuthe error is "SIGSEGV: Illegal storage access. (Attempt to read from nil?)"
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14:31:38FromDiscord_<demotomohiro> I guess api[].GetUTF8Text() returns nil.
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14:33:24thejuthat's what I thought too but the cpp version correctly prints out the text
14:36:42thejuthe generated c++ code seems to be wrong, it is (*outText) = (*api).TessBaseAPI::GetUTF8Text();
14:37:27thejuinstead of outText = (*api).TessBaseAPI::GetUTF8Text()
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14:42:12FromGitter<gogolxdong> Where to check this error? ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5d1e104484cbda1764cd1196]
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14:54:40Araqtheju: freeShared(outText) is not compatible with delete outText[]
14:55:45thejuAraq: but the code doesn't even go till there, could that still be a problem?
14:56:08thejufor example even if I just have discard api[].GetUTF8Text(), i get the same error
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15:03:02Araqtheju: new(TessBaseAPI) is also wrong, Nim's allocator is not C++'s
15:06:24thejuOk, interesting. What would be the correct way?
15:07:02thejubecause if I only leave the code on until the version number, it prints that correctly
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15:12:31FromDiscord_<demotomohiro> theju: https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#importcpp-pragma-wrapping-constructors
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15:36:13thejuFromDiscord_: <demotomohiro> Araq: thanks for the help, I got it working
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15:44:50Araqping alehander
15:45:02FromGitter<matrixbot> `swedneck` woah, is this chat bridging everything via gitter?
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16:09:50FromGitter<zetashift> I'm actually following along Peter Shirley's Ray Tracing in a weekend with Nim right now. I don't really know C++ so I'm guessing I'm going along with that too
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16:18:32FromGitter<genotrance> My slack bridge has been down for 12 hours, sucks to be disconnected
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17:06:25FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Discord and IRC have a bridge. Gitter and IRC have a bridge. Matrix and Gitter have a bridge.
17:06:28FromGitter<kayabaNerve> That's all that I know of
17:08:15narimiran@swedneck you don't need matrixbot to connect to irc. you can directly connect to #nim. leorize[m] should know the details about it
17:09:11FromGitter<matrixbot> `swedneck` > <@gitter_fromirc:matrix.org> *<narimiran>* @swedneck you don't need matrixbot to connect to irc. you can directly connect to #nim. leorize[m] should know the details about it ⏎ ⏎ that's not what i mean, i mean i find it weird to center bridging around gitter instead of matrix
17:09:34FromGitter<juancarlospaco> @Araq https://www.twitch.tv/araq4k/dashboard/settings --> "Store past broadcasts" Turn it ON.
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17:10:16narimiran@swedneck: look at how your message looks currently: https://irclogs.nim-lang.org/04-07-2019.html#17:09:11
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17:10:53Swedneck2this is why i find it weird to use gitter
17:11:26narimiranSwedneck2: now this is much better, but that's not coming from matrix, is it? (usually matrix users have `nick[m]`)
17:11:52leorizeyou can change it if desired
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17:12:15leorizeI connect via both because the bridge can lag behind at times
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17:12:38Swedneck2i'm using matrix, i've just set a nick on the irc side
17:12:55Swedneck2some channels require it
17:13:09FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Bridging is centered on IRC
17:13:44FromGitter<kayabaNerve> Or... IRC has Discord and Gitter. Gitter has IRC and matrix. :Thinking:
17:13:52FromGitter<kayabaNerve> I guess it ends up with which room is bigger.
17:13:59Swedneck2ah, in that case someone else set up a slack bridge from `#nim-lang:matrix.org` to slack
17:14:02Swedneck2s/slack/gitter
17:14:09rayman22201I hope Araq gets twitch recording to work for us poor Americans that are sleeping when he streams (all 4 of us 😝)
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17:14:24federico3when is the stream?
17:14:34leorizemeanwhile telegram is isolated :p
17:14:44Swedneck2might want to contact matrix.org to move the alias to the same room as `#freenode_#nim:matrix.org`
17:14:53rayman22201He streamed last night around 2am PST
17:15:09leorizewe can have #nim-lang:matrix.org bridged to freenode
17:15:44rayman22201Convert to your preferred time zone lol
17:17:01narimiranleorize: telegram should stay isolated
17:17:35narimiranfederico3: usually in the (european) morning, around 10-11 am
17:18:06federico3UTC? CEST?
17:18:17narimiran8-9 UTC
17:18:58rayman22201Thanks narimiran. My ability to translate timezones is bad.
17:19:04Swedneck2[email protected] is the email address in case you want to move the `#nim-lang:matrix.org` alias to the same room as `#freenode_#nim:matrix.org`, which is what i would recommend
17:19:11Swedneck2otherwise people end up sending messages via gitter
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17:20:02narimiranrayman22201: it is easy when you're in europe and your one (winter) or two (summer) hours away from UTC
17:23:04rayman22201😁
17:23:30disruptekdom96: i always prefer semicolons in proc definitions because it helps the eye parse foo(bar: int, baz, boz: float) more easily.
17:24:21FromGitter<juancarlospaco> I wonder how our ZIP module does 🤔 https://www.bamsoftware.com/hacks/zipbomb
17:24:47FromGitter<juancarlospaco> (Comparison near end of post)
17:24:56disrupteknarimiran: i think your nimpretty pr is great. imo, the goal should be to have the whole project pass pretty 24/7.
17:25:06narimirandisruptek: thanks :)
17:25:07lqdev[m]rokups: I don't get any suggestions at all
17:25:21lqdev[m]nor are errors being shown
17:25:35narimirandisruptek: nimpretty still has some rough edges, but we're working on them
17:28:09FromGitter<zacharycarter> narimiran: do most European countries do the hour offset for Midsummer?
17:28:13FromGitter<zacharycarter> or is Finland just special?
17:28:35narimiranmost of them do
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17:29:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> ooo I didn't even think of that - I can now catch Araq streaming live, without hating myself for not sleeping the next day!
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17:31:48FromGitter<zacharycarter> I might even be able to attend a Nim meetup if there ever is another one, or maybe even a conference other Nimmers go to
17:35:31lqdev[m]now I get errors, but I still don't get suggestions. something's stuck at `Indexing: 70 of 70`
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17:36:04FromGitter<rokups> Maybe nimsuggest is broken
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17:45:04lqdev[m]it worked perfectly yesterday, tho
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18:06:19Araqhuh?
18:06:28Araqdoes twitch keep my videos? where?
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18:09:49Swedneck2Araq: hey, you might want to send an email to [email protected] asking them to move the `#nim-lang:matrix.org` alias to the same room as `#freenode_#nim:matrix.org`. currently `#nim-lang:matrix.org` bridges messages to IRC via gitter which causes very ugly messages, while `#freenode_#nim:matrix.org` bridges directly to IRC
18:11:44Araqok...
18:13:16FromGitter<matrixbot> `swedneck` here's an example message sent from `#nim-lang:matrix.org`, it doesn't look great
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18:18:04FromGitter<zacharycarter> Araq: twitch doesn't by default, you have to turn it on
18:18:16FromGitter<zacharycarter> > @Araq https://www.twitch.tv/araq4k/dashboard/settings --> "Store past broadcasts" Turn it ON.
18:18:54Araqah, thanks
18:19:17FromGitter<zacharycarter> thank @juancarlospaco :)
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18:40:40rupanshhelo
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18:41:04rupanshI have been working on an 8080 emulator for a while now.
18:41:32rupanshhttps://github.com/rupansh/nim-8080-emu/blob/master/emu.nim I am having trouble reading the space invaders rom into the memory pointer
18:41:51rupanshi took this as a reference https://github.com/kpmiller/emulator101/blob/master/8080emu-first50.c#L879-L894
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19:08:19FromGitter<zacharycarter> question - if I have a pointer in C, I can do something like `ptr[0] = '\0';`
19:08:26FromGitter<zacharycarter> how would I do that with a `pointer` in Nim?
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19:10:37FromGitter<zacharycarter> is that the same as `ptr = nil` ?
19:12:06rayman22201No. The C code sets the first byte the ptr points to to 0. The Nim code sets the pointer itself to 0
19:14:41FromGitter<zacharycarter> that's what I figured - is this possible to do in Nim?
19:14:58rayman22201I think the safe thing in Nim is to probably cast the ptr to a ref object?
19:15:51rayman22201Or you could set mem. I'm not at my PC atm and I don't remember the exact syntax 🤔
19:19:05FromGitter<zacharycarter> I think it's `zeroMem(ptr, 1)
19:20:36rayman22201Zero mem, set mem, same thing 😝
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19:21:29FromGitter<zacharycarter> :P thank you for the help
19:22:18rayman22201Np. You could see what c2nim does. That's usually what I do when I need to figure out stuff like this.
19:23:08FromGitter<zacharycarter> I tried - but c2nim produced - `ptr`[0] = '\x00'
19:23:14FromGitter<zacharycarter> which was less than helpful
19:23:21rayman22201Interesting
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19:23:56rayman22201I guess Nim let's you use array notation on ptr
19:24:17rayman22201Pretty dangerous but cool
19:25:26rayman22201Also @zacharycarter, happy American Independence day you expat 😜
19:26:30FromGitter<zacharycarter> it doesn't :/ `[]` on a pointer is dereference tmk
19:26:52FromGitter<zacharycarter> thanks! feels strange not being in the US on the 4th of July, but then again I don't really want to be anywhere near D.C. atm haha
19:26:59FromGitter<zacharycarter> too much craziness going on for me
19:27:47rayman22201Oh yeah. I don't blame you. I would rather go to a Nim Meetup like you said lol.
19:28:00FromGitter<zacharycarter> +1
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19:34:53FromGitter<zacharycarter> yay - shader loading done for the most part
19:35:40FromGitter<juancarlospaco> :)
19:39:07rayman22201🎉
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20:16:46Araqzacharycarter: Nim's idea is to use 'ptr UncheckedArray[T]'
20:16:56Araqto get array indexing on a pointer
20:17:05FromGitter<zacharycarter> ah yeah, I forgot about that
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20:18:34Araqok, I'm about to stream again
20:18:48Araqyou can choose between (a) fixing embarrassing bugs
20:19:01Araqand (b) some control flow voodoo
20:19:27disruptekvoodoo ftw
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20:27:52Araqrayman22201, ?
20:29:33lqdev[m]to zero the value of the pointer you do `point[] = 0`, simple as that
20:29:41lqdev[m]equivalent to C `*point = 0`
20:29:46rayman22201No preference lol. Though twitch is having issues on my phone right now... Ugh
20:32:54disruptekhow do i make this stupid chat panel behave?
20:35:20disruptekman, the collapse button was invisible under dark reader.
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20:42:04noonieni'm getting an Exception message: over- or underflow, in async code, however the stack traces only point to a "waitFor" in my code
20:43:16noonieni do get my function names in asyncmacro.nim
20:43:57lqdev[m]look at the line numbers, they're correct
20:44:11disruptekoff-by-one error positioning the label?
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20:59:00noonienlqdev[m]: they don't appear to be correct
20:59:19noonienthe ones in asyncmacro, they don't point correctly into my file
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21:02:12lqdev[m]strange, that's how it was to me
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21:24:54noonieni'm on the latest nightly
21:26:50dom96disruptek: sure, and in this case you can use a semicolon, but don't use it for every single proc def
21:27:01dom96that is the edge case I'm talking about where I'm cool with it
21:27:14noonienalso, are there any operators that allow under/overflows?
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21:54:27FromGitter<Varriount> All integer operators?
21:55:25FromGitter<Varriount> I mean, an exception will be raised if checks are turned on, but otherwise they can over/under flow
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22:15:45disruptekdom96: that means that i have to turn commas into semicolons sometimes during maintenance. :-(
22:17:58dom96so you use semicolons everywhere?
22:18:43Calinouis echo a keyword or a function in Nim? i.e. what's the most idiomatic syntax, echo("hello") or echo "hello"?
22:18:56clyybberboth are valid call syntaxes
22:18:59CalinouI know :)
22:19:08clyybberso they apply to every proc
22:19:16clyybbernot only keywords
22:19:22clyybberso no, echo isn't a keyword :)
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22:20:39CalinouVS Code highlights it as a keyword, that's why I asked
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22:37:27disrupteki use semicolons in my proc definitions whenever multiple arguments exist.
22:37:49disruptek"hello".echo
22:41:57dom96so you'd write this? foo(bar: int; baz; boz: float)
22:43:43disrupteki'd write foo(bar: int; baz, bar: int) though i rarely overload names for a single type.
22:44:07disruptekeg. unless the sig is very long, i'll just spell each of them out with their types.
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22:44:50disruptekeasier to grok at a glance, and when you are looking for a certain sig, it helps if one with two highlighted types pops up versus one with just one (but type var names).
22:50:57dom96so you'd probably write: foo(bar: int; baz: float; boz: float)
22:54:26dom96the main reason I dislike it is because it's inconsistent with pretty much every other language (?), I also don't really consider it more readable (except maybe in the case where you're sharing the same type for multiple different arguments)
23:03:34jmivenPascal, Ada and Eiffel use semicolons, for example
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23:18:13disruptekthat's the only bit we are talking about. if there wasn't biz, baz: int syntax then i wouldn't use semicolons at all.
23:18:44disrupteksince it's a possibility, i'd rather standardize on a syntax that can literally be standard among all my signatures.
23:18:46Araqso ... what are we gonna do? throw away the code?
23:18:57disruptekwhy?
23:19:00Araqthe DFA wasn't designed for this
23:19:37disruptekwe're talking about lint, not dfa...?
23:20:09disruptekor, you mean you think the dfa you were just working on is too stodgy?
23:20:37disruptekit doesn't have to be the last solution, merely the first. the prototype that informs a smarter version down the road.
23:21:14Araqwell, all the code I wrote is pretty much "meh"
23:21:34disruptekit's fine. copy+pasta is okay in a poc.
23:21:47AraqI can push it to a branch
23:22:11Araqbut it's neither complete nor elegant, as I said, this is not for "injectdestructors"
23:22:14disruptekyou really never ran klee?
23:22:39Araqwhat's klee?
23:22:51disruptekstatic analysis for llvm bytecode.
23:23:47Araqnah, now that you mention it, I think I heard the name before but that's it
23:24:23disrupteki mentioned it a few months ago. i think it's worth trying to run it against some small newruntime. you might get a kick outta it.
23:25:03disruptekbbl, thanks again araq, that was neat. :+1:
23:25:15Araqcannot imagine how, I would be left with errors pointing to LLVM code
23:25:32AraqI want a 'nimZ3' tool for correctness proofs
23:25:42Araqand I know how to do it.
23:25:51disruptekyou compile nim to llvm and then klee will tell you where the bugs are.
23:26:03disruptekit can even write tests.
23:26:09clyybberdisruptek: Problem is mapping those bugs back to nim errors
23:26:19Araqexactly
23:26:29disruptekit knows about C.
23:26:52Araqwell with --lineDir:on we'll probably come far
23:26:57disruptekyou can get all the debugging to follow through the whole pipeline. check it out. i could be wrong, but i doubt it.
23:27:00disruptekbbl
23:27:27clyybbergn8 all
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