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00:21:50FromDiscord<imanuelmav> hi
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04:44:55FromDiscord<11clock> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XqGcBpPL
04:46:45FromDiscord<11clock> 100% compile-time, stateless, preserve's nim's semantics.
04:47:32FromDiscord<11clock> And supporting compound asignments on setters was a pain in the ass
04:47:40FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) "asignments" => "assignments"
04:48:42FromDiscord<11clock> And all of that compiles into normal nim code. It's literally shorthand
04:48:52FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) "shorthand" => "just shortcuts"
04:49:56FromDiscord<11clock> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=qGZSxcvw
04:50:41FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=eFDZPINY" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=opvYPcKy"
05:06:52FromDiscord<11clock> Also seriously, why are compound assignments the way they are and not syntactic sugar by default.
05:07:08FromDiscord<11clock> I made a few templates and had to put in some hacky workarounds in the DSL to unsugar them.
05:08:18FromDiscord<11clock> Oh well, at least my setter procs work with them reliably now
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07:49:06FromDiscord<madonuko> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=nDrAzaHe
07:52:57FromDiscord<madonuko> nvm the first issue on github is talking about this, right
08:16:47FromDiscord<11clock> Decided to try using nim without an LSP because it's just too unstable
08:17:02FromDiscord<11clock> I'll try to compensate in other ways
08:38:47FromDiscord<11clock> Oh, apparently I can try setting up nim check with a watcher?
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13:25:14FromDiscord<tvoyglaza> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=HBBSlyQs
13:27:24FromDiscord<tvoyglaza> The `method` keyword allow us to use any subtype of `Player`. And also you can give hp the `100` default value.
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13:29:31FromDiscord<tvoyglaza> But you already did a nice work
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14:36:52FromDiscord<timbuktu_guy> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1522974477020037260/what-a-full-battleship-broadside-looks-like-uss-iowa-v0-4F07_Qem8OADryns-ykq6HUeauCkW8eQZgk3g7M5YOY.webp?ex=6a4a6c02&is=6a491a82&hm=a03b0e83d9fe0fad8889ba9ace634448c2661a055889757a825e4bcd07d0dfae&
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15:10:30FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @timbuktu_guy "": I'm not seeing heavy discussion in #main right now that would be interrupted by this so it's fine-ish, but generally, that belongs more in #offtopic 😉
15:11:11FromDiscord<timbuktu_guy> 🫡 🍾 🏆 🥳 💃 🌞
15:50:33FromDiscord<amun0666> Oh man… I was rooting for the redcoats… 😉
16:12:18FromDiscord<11clock> sent a long message, see https://pasty.ee/xRRHIWgR
16:13:05FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) "https://pasty.ee/IRvJvliD" => "https://pasty.ee/nuJZvlcV"
16:14:44FromDiscord<11clock> And all that while still just generating normal nim oop under the hood.
16:16:12FromDiscord<11clock> Unfortunately there are a couple of things that are a little less ergonomic.
16:17:53FromDiscord<11clock> Defining fields requires a "var" keyword, and you pretty much should use the factory method rather than direct object initialization so that the init proc gets called.
16:18:35FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) removed "pretty much"
16:19:29FromDiscord<11clock> But I think that those are worthwhile tradeoffs.
16:20:32FromDiscord<11clock> Oh yeah and also regarding method overrides, my macro gives you "super"
16:20:48FromDiscord<11clock> There are probably a couple other advantages I missed
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16:22:24FromDiscord<11clock> But yeah a lot of thought went into this. I wanted to directly address every issue I had with OOP in every other language I used. Java and C# make it look like boilerplate hell when it doesn't need to be.
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16:40:03FromDiscord<11clock> nim already does quite a lot of the heavy lifting thanks to its ergonomic syntax, but I wanted to streamline things further, basically.
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17:03:48FromDiscord<11clock> In reply to @11clock "Defining fields requires a": Regarding this factory method thing, I added a "tap" macro, works similarly to Ruby. I saw that nim has a "with" but that evaluating the argument on every line made it a nogo.
17:07:53FromDiscord<11clock> This is a case where nim's normal syntax is better. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1523012484045340825/e2a039f2197689912eb8f171ce9d4c5e.png?ex=6a4a8f68&is=6a493de8&hm=764f6338100d86e8c62e6cbc1a893aa6ae88a06fbc761dcaf7db32f14cafbf48&
17:09:50FromDiscord<11clock> Its benefits are more apparent with more complex objects. For simple data types with little to no methods it's not worth using.
17:50:45FromDiscord<tvoyglaza> Looks interesting
17:51:52FromDiscord<stankmaner.> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1523023555309080689/image.jpg?ex=6a4a99b7&is=6a494837&hm=88124816d20b932e3186da7b2aa50e1ebdf1742fa9d8ae226ebae76fcaa4e141& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1523023555611201576/image.jpg?ex=6a4a99b8&is=6a494838&hm=982374b74e2a2692d7e9461d553e59af9b6c6f487ace8c3f80077e4eb0ded3c5&
17:53:53FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> 💀
17:53:56FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> <@&371760044473319454>
17:54:06FromDiscord<timbuktu_guy> bum detected
17:54:08FromDiscord<timbuktu_guy> 🚨
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18:59:51FromDiscord<Aceroph> wonder how they came up with the name↵(@11clock)
19:08:35FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> https://klipy.com/gifs/orange-cat-cat-hitting-cat
19:08:51FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> huh are embeds off
19:09:10FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> anyways its like when a cat hits an object to see if itll do anything
19:09:46FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> its like the `tee` command
19:19:16FromDiscord<im_rob> https://klipy.com/gifs/orange-cat-cat-hitting-cat
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19:35:33FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @Aceroph "wonder how they came": i always thought it just comes from, like, "tapping into" something
19:35:37FromDiscord<nnsee> makes sense in my head
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19:50:23FromDiscord<11clock> Time to figure out how to install naylib
19:53:40FromDiscord<11clock> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=SMpegrkx
20:01:43FromDiscord<11clock> Great, now for some reason when I try to run "nimble install naylib" again it just builds my project -_-
20:05:47FromDiscord<11clock> ok got it working
20:15:03FromDiscord<11clock> For constants, is PascalCase or camelCase recommended? The style guide just says use either.
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21:16:36FromDiscord<nasuray> In reply to @11clock "Man I love how": Tbf it seems like naylib is the one which is weird in this case as it's trying to inject information in the install process..
21:35:49FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @11clock "For constants, is PascalCase": i think PascalCase is more common
21:36:04FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> or SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE
21:57:00FromDiscord<kodiakweb> SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE is best used for global consts and the like
21:57:07FromDiscord<kodiakweb> (edit) "SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE is best used for global consts and the like ... " added "lmao"
22:08:59FromDiscord<Aceroph> how do yall make unit tests?
22:14:27FromDiscord<kodiakweb> In reply to @Aceroph "how do yall make": https://nim-lang.org/docs/unittest.html
22:19:56FromDiscord<DetermiedNim1> In reply to @kodiakweb "SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE is best used": your status cutout is in the wrong place lol
22:49:51FromDiscord<11clock> Still getting used to jot having an lsp. It seems to split my workflow into two distinct "modes"
22:49:58FromDiscord<11clock> (edit) "jot" => "not"
22:50:18FromDiscord<11clock> Writing code, and fixing the compiler errors
22:51:00FromDiscord<11clock> Using Zed. I set word completion to activate on single character and that definitely helps