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| 00:36:16 | PMunch | Yay, got my ninepatches working |
| 00:36:53 | PMunch | Now I have 100% LibGDX texture pack coverage in my game library :) |
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| 01:00:31 | PMunch | Hmm, maybe my next goal should be an easier text rendering system |
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| 01:38:12 | ftsf | PMunch, making a game framework for nim? |
| 01:38:18 | PMunch | Yup |
| 01:38:24 | PMunch | Or, not really a framework |
| 01:38:27 | PMunch | More like a library |
| 01:38:34 | ftsf | cool |
| 01:38:51 | PMunch | I'm using yglukhov's SDL template for cross-platform |
| 01:39:12 | PMunch | So everything is running on PC, Android, and (theoretically) iOS |
| 01:39:30 | ftsf | awesome! |
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| 01:39:47 | ftsf | yeah i'm using the SDL2 wrapper and got it to compile for win,linux,osx,android |
| 01:39:57 | PMunch | The functions I've created so far are helper functions for creating games using the SDL framework |
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| 01:41:02 | PMunch | So far I have full texture pack support, including animations and ninepatches |
| 01:41:08 | PMunch | http://github.com/libgdx/libgdx/wiki/Texture-packer |
| 01:41:10 | ftsf | i made a little pico8 style api on top of SDL and nim |
| 01:41:12 | PMunch | Pretty much everything listed there |
| 01:41:17 | ftsf | sweet |
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| 01:41:47 | PMunch | And I've got animations working for simple texture strips as well |
| 01:42:07 | PMunch | Also wrote something for collisions |
| 01:42:27 | PMunch | It takes two rects and gives you the overlap rect and a "direction" of collision |
| 01:42:39 | PMunch | The direction is based on the nature of the overlap |
| 01:42:44 | ftsf | *nods* |
| 01:42:54 | ftsf | I started some collision/physics stuff too |
| 01:43:00 | PMunch | So if rectangle two covers the entire top of rectangle one that's a north collision |
| 01:43:22 | PMunch | If it covers the right corner it's a north-west collision |
| 01:43:30 | PMunch | Makes handling collisions a lot easier |
| 01:43:41 | ftsf | yeah |
| 01:45:20 | PMunch | Haven't done anything for physics yet |
| 01:46:09 | PMunch | I think I will do more complex collisions (other shapes, polygons, pixel perfect) then maybe do a text rendering thing to make that easier |
| 01:46:32 | ftsf | yeah, text rendering is really important to have |
| 01:46:52 | PMunch | SDL already has text rendering stuff. But it's a bit cumbersome to use |
| 01:47:14 | PMunch | So I might write a fairly simple wrapper around that to make it easier |
| 01:48:30 | PMunch | What've you got for physics so far? Anything cool? |
| 01:49:19 | ftsf | got a convex poly collision detection and contact point finder based on dyn4j |
| 01:49:33 | PMunch | contact point finder? |
| 01:49:56 | ftsf | after you find if there's a collision, you probably want to know where the contact points between the two polygons are |
| 01:50:51 | PMunch | Aaah right |
| 01:50:58 | PMunch | Yeah, that is handy |
| 01:52:27 | PMunch | Right now my project is a bit of a mess |
| 01:52:33 | ftsf | mmm mine too =) |
| 01:52:46 | PMunch | Tried to force the texture packer to create some hard scenarios so it contains about 5 different packs |
| 01:52:49 | ftsf | i've just been making a game and adding stuff as needed |
| 01:52:58 | PMunch | Pretty much the same here :) |
| 01:53:09 | PMunch | Been copying my game MannBarSchwein |
| 01:54:09 | ftsf | cute |
| 01:54:10 | PMunch | Tomorrow I'll write a simple test file to show of all the different features, then I'll update my repository |
| 01:55:16 | PMunch | Maybe we should pool our resources instead of doing twice the work :P |
| 01:55:42 | ftsf | http://static.impbox.net/vektor2089.mp4 making this racing game |
| 01:56:03 | ftsf | yeah, could be some overlap, although mine is focused on pixel pushing rather than textures |
| 01:56:11 | PMunch | Nice, looks cool |
| 01:56:40 | PMunch | I can see that |
| 01:58:37 | PMunch | dyn4j seems cool by the way |
| 01:59:06 | ftsf | i've never used it, but they have some great blog posts explaining stuff |
| 01:59:33 | ftsf | and the code is quite readable |
| 02:01:36 | PMunch | Might have to look into it if I get to doing physics |
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| 02:21:36 | PMunch | But I'm off to bed now |
| 02:21:53 | PMunch | I'll share my latest changes tomorrow :) |
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| 09:54:22 | dom96 | Good morning |
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| 09:57:09 | Araq | hey |
| 09:59:09 | dom96 | Trying HN again, maybe we'll have more luck today |
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| 10:04:00 | FromGitter | <Araq> @endragor I'm trying to fix https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4687 |
| 10:04:35 | FromGitter | <Araq> I'm adding a rather primitive analysis, if the assignment to 'result' is the first statement in the proc body 'T result = ...' is generated |
| 10:04:51 | FromGitter | <Araq> but I dunno if that suffices for your problems? |
| 10:05:04 | FromGitter | <Araq> it's really hard to do anything else though |
| 10:05:21 | FromGitter | <Araq> if the assignment is an 'if' then the scoping will be wrong |
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| 10:07:21 | dom96 | Just went on our analytics, noticed somebody is searching for "old nim downloads" |
| 10:07:35 | dom96 | we should definitely add a listing of them to our new site |
| 10:07:48 | Araq | no. |
| 10:08:00 | dom96 | why not? |
| 10:08:06 | Araq | newer releases are always better |
| 10:08:42 | Araq | produce better code, more bugs fixed, new exciting features added, old cruft removed |
| 10:09:17 | dom96 | sure, but sometimes you may need an older release |
| 10:09:44 | dom96 | maybe you're too lazy to update to the newer one |
| 10:09:50 | dom96 | or just don't have enough time right now |
| 10:10:15 | Araq | ok then |
| 10:10:40 | Araq | I thought it's common knowledge you can just change the version number in the download URL |
| 10:10:53 | Araq | we keep every old version on the server |
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| 10:14:25 | dom96 | Some people might be able to work it out, but it's not exactly immediately obvious |
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| 10:29:40 | FromGitter | <endragor> @Araq thanks for taking time to look at that issue. Yeah, I think with that approach I could at least add workarounds (assign some default value to `result` at the beginning of the proc) |
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| 11:03:04 | dom96 | This is so disappointing. HN doesn't seem interested at all in the survey results :\ |
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| 11:16:42 | hohlerde | can repr(...) be used to display a c struct used via importc pragma? |
| 11:18:35 | Araq | hohlerde: I think so |
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| 11:53:41 | hohlerde | mhm, for me it doesn't work. using the c struct via importc doesn't give any information with repr. translating the c struct to nim and using that I get the information I expect via repr. I am trying a simple example with libusb. I just want to get the version of the library. |
| 11:54:57 | hohlerde | I guess I am doing something wrong, need to do some more research. |
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| 12:30:01 | dom96 | hohlerde: repr needs to know the structure of the struct, otherwise it doesn't know what fields it should display |
| 12:40:34 | hohlerde | yep, found that out by reading the FFi section in Nim in Action :-) |
| 12:41:41 | dom96 | cool :D |
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| 12:49:25 | kier | does Nim have a benchmarking framework that I should use for writing benchmarks? |
| 12:50:36 | dom96 | kier: nothing in the stdlib, try searching Nimble |
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| 13:39:30 | kier | dom96: thanks, will have a look in a bit |
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| 14:51:52 | flyx | hmm, it seems like the streams package is completely unsupported in JS and there is no easy way to change that |
| 14:52:20 | flyx | that means that I can't get NimYAML to compile to JS currently |
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| 14:54:32 | flyx | would it somehow be possible to implement copyMem for JS so that StringStream can work? |
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| 15:03:02 | dom96 | flyx: why don't you simply offer a procedure that accepts a string? |
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| 15:03:11 | dom96 | instead of a StringStream |
| 15:04:00 | flyx | dom96: a) Stream seams more versatile and b) lexbase needs a Stream |
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| 15:05:57 | dom96 | The stream interface doesn't seem well suited for JS |
| 15:06:05 | dom96 | It uses pointers for example |
| 15:06:23 | dom96 | Perhaps that could be changed just for the JS backend |
| 15:07:12 | dom96 | Personally, I think that all libraries should offer both a proc load(str: string) and proc load(stream: Stream). |
| 15:07:24 | dom96 | Importing streams just to pass in a strings is irritating |
| 15:07:30 | dom96 | *a string |
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| 15:10:35 | flyx | dom96: well I *can* provide a proc that takes a string, but then I would need to convert it to a StringStream internally |
| 15:10:46 | flyx | that would not fix the problem, obviously |
| 15:10:59 | dom96 | lexbase should be fixed to support a ``string`` too. |
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| 15:12:44 | flyx | well I *could* patch lexbase to take a string instead of a Stream for JS |
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| 15:13:01 | flyx | providing both would need to separate interface from implementation |
| 15:13:45 | flyx | I'll try something |
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| 15:18:15 | dom96 | flyx: patch it so that it accepts a string for every backend, not just JS. |
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| 15:29:52 | Araq | streams need to work with JS, yglukhov made some patches for it iirc |
| 15:30:06 | Araq | accepting a string instead is a non solution |
| 15:30:17 | Araq | since streams are lazy, strings are not |
| 15:32:30 | dom96 | https://salt.bountysource.com/teams/nim/updates/5-results-of-the-2016-nim-community-survey |
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| 15:32:53 | hohlerde | what was the name of the company again that used nim and unreal 4? xored software ? |
| 15:33:13 | dom96 | Araq: Sure, but it's a good enough work around. |
| 15:35:02 | FromGitter | <endragor> hohlerde: yes, that’s where I work. Why do you ask? |
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| 15:40:25 | hohlerde | I would like to use that screenshot araq showed at poly con for my own presentation and ppl probably ask for the name of the company |
| 15:40:38 | hohlerde | so if you don't mind, I'll name your company |
| 15:41:21 | hohlerde | I'll also link the github project |
| 15:43:16 | hohlerde | endragor: when I looked at your company's site it doesn't look like a gaming-only company. that's why I also asked. |
| 15:43:29 | dom96 | hohlerde: where are you giving the presentation? |
| 15:43:38 | hohlerde | at my company |
| 15:44:11 | hohlerde | so, it is not really public, but I will release the slides afterwards on github |
| 15:45:16 | FromGitter | <endragor> hohlrede: sure, no problem. Our site is quite outdated, work on the new one is in progress. |
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| 16:04:30 | flyx | dom96: well, patching lexbase to not use Streams in JS was easy enough: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/4709 |
| 16:05:08 | flyx | if Araq wants strings to work in JS, that would obviously need to be patched again as soon as they work |
| 16:05:12 | flyx | *Streams |
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| 16:19:29 | krux02 | what is the best way build a static map that takes a type and returns a value. |
| 16:20:42 | krux02 | In c++ I would do template specialization. But that's not an option in nim |
| 16:21:13 | flyx | krux02: probably a list of templates: template getValue(t: typedesc[int]): string = "int" template getValue(t: typedesc[string]): string = "string" |
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| 16:24:02 | krux02 | flyx: thanks, I thought I tried it, but apparently it didn't work |
| 16:24:10 | krux02 | I don't know what I did wrong there |
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| 16:25:17 | FromGitter | <endragor> krux02: I think a macro that uses a `{.compileTime.}` table is also an option. |
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| 16:32:41 | krux02 | endrago: I also had that idea, but for me that is not an option, becaus I don't have a single location where I know how to set all entries, I have a macro hat creates types and needs to fill all values for that type |
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| 16:33:24 | krux02 | you can imagine static const values in a templated class |
| 16:34:05 | krux02 | (in c++ ) |
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| 16:34:39 | krux02 | or wait, do you main a compileTime variable? |
| 16:35:09 | krux02 | one that can be changed at compile time, but not at runtime |
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| 16:56:56 | ngc | Hello. I have a question regarding getting type names as string. The manual states that this should work with T.name, where T is a typedesc instance. But I am getting an undeclared field name error. Example at http://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#special-types-typedesc leads to same error. |
| 16:57:49 | ngc | Nim version is 0.14.2 |
| 16:59:26 | FromGitter | <endragor> ngc: make sure you import `typetraits` module |
| 17:01:01 | ngc | FromGitter: thanks that is the trick. seams manual is not up to date for this specific case. |
| 17:01:02 | FromGitter | ngc, I'm a bot, *bleep, bloop*. I relay messages between here and https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim |
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| 17:26:27 | FromGitter | <krux02> I like this irc gitter bridge |
| 17:26:55 | krux02 | It brings us all closer together with the tools we like, but without splitting the community |
| 17:27:36 | FromGitter | <krux02> I even have a gitter irc bridge that connects to my gitter account (this one) |
| 17:29:18 | FromGitter | <endragor> @krux02 didn’t see your reply btw… yeah I meant compile-time variable. it doesn’t even exist in runtime iirc |
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| 20:27:57 | Araq | ping flyx |
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| 20:35:14 | PMunch | How do you import from a folder higher up than the current file? |
| 20:35:57 | Araq | import "../foo/bar" |
| 20:36:12 | PMunch | Aha |
| 20:36:14 | Araq | or play with your --path in some config |
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| 20:57:14 | baabelfish | does "nimble install nimsuggest" fail for anyone else? |
| 20:57:43 | baabelfish | /home/bbl/.nimble/pkgs/compiler-0.14.3/compiler/options.nim(349, 17) Error: undeclared field: 'toLowerAscii' |
| 20:59:08 | Araq | baabelfish: works for me, but I have heard that a lot |
| 20:59:27 | Araq | try nim e compile_without_nimble from nimsuggest's repo |
| 21:00:01 | baabelfish | where is toLowerAscii even supposed to be? |
| 21:00:14 | Araq | strutils from Nim devel |
| 21:00:19 | baabelfish | ah |
| 21:01:07 | baabelfish | nimsuggest.nim(16, 16) Error: cannot open 'compiler/options' |
| 21:01:34 | baabelfish | I'm using versions from archlinux repo (nim 0.14.2 and nimble 0.7.4) |
| 21:01:47 | Araq | my setup is generally projects/nim, projects/nimsuggest etc. so use siblings and nim devel and everything works out |
| 21:02:31 | Araq | I think patching nimsuggest to use compiler-0.14.2 and not .3 should also work. dom96? |
| 21:02:51 | Araq | I mean patching nimsuggest's nimble package info |
| 21:03:12 | baabelfish | I would imagine nimble is the default way to install nimsuggest? |
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| 21:04:23 | Araq | I dunno. I like to move nimsuggest back into the core, but dom96 is against it and I don't want to complain about Nimble not supporting my workflow again. |
| 21:04:40 | baabelfish | Araq: moving to the core would be even better if you ask me |
| 21:05:02 | Araq | eventually I will patch Nimble and push my patch through |
| 21:05:36 | Araq | by the might of my dictatorship superpowers ... |
| 21:05:41 | Araq | ;-) |
| 21:05:50 | baabelfish | hah |
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| 21:39:07 | baabelfish | How would one write a macro that takes a proc and constructs a tuple matching the proc paramteres? |
| 21:40:17 | Araq | macros.getType and friends can be used to access proc parameters |
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| 21:42:08 | mcc | So let's say I am interested in trying to modify seq[] such that it is backed by a TypedArray. I have not modified the Nim source yet so I'm not sure I can pull this off, but I'm curious. |
| 21:42:13 | mcc | (I mean in javascript) |
| 21:42:31 | mcc | Where in the source should I look to see how different kinds of types get represented during js codegen? |
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| 21:47:18 | Araq | mcc: compiler/jsgen.nim |
| 21:48:37 | mcc | thanks |
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| 21:50:54 | mcc | Incidentally, I still feel like a lot of problems in bridging to JavaScript would be helped if there were some type which is "seq, but add() is banned" |
| 21:51:31 | mcc | I think I know how to set it up so that when you create a seq[], you can convert that to a JavaScript TypedArray without a copy |
| 21:52:33 | mcc | However, if you *return* a TypedArray from a JavaScript function, then there's not really any specific Nim type that cleanly maps to |
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| 21:55:24 | mcc | like one could make classes for the various typed arrays, but now you'll have this weird situation where array(5,int) and Int32Array are the same type but the Nim typechecker doesn't know this |
| 21:55:50 | Araq | the Nim typechecks eats 'cast' |
| 21:56:07 | mcc | hmm |
| 21:56:49 | mcc | let me think about that |
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| 22:09:15 | mcc | one more question... i'm looking at GLM/nim... and it has this type Mat4x4, which is an array(4, Vec4) where Vec4 is an array(4, float) |
| 22:09:45 | mcc | oh and both Mat4x4 and Vec4 are Distinct |
| 22:09:54 | mcc | When using js gen, will a Mat4x4 be represented in memory as an array of 16 floats? Or as an array of 4 arrays of 4 floats? |
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| 22:12:18 | mcc | I ask because the intended way of using Mat4x4 in this library is to get a pointer to it and pass that to glUniformMatrix4fv |
| 22:12:32 | mcc | however obviously pointers only exist in the c gen |
| 22:13:16 | mcc | however, if it turns out that an array of float arrays is represented in memory by nim as one long float array, then i can cast to that |
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| 22:20:40 | mcc | hm, it's an array of 4 float arrays |
| 22:20:44 | mcc | in testing |
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| 22:32:21 | PMunch | Hmm, in the sdl2 library there is a setHint function, which maps to the SDL_SetHint function. But where are all the SDL_HINT_* definitions? |
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