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01:40:28pilnehmmm, this is going to take a bit more learning first on my part if i want to make it quality and good, but i am definitely going to dig into it
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02:55:13reactormonkpilne, feel free to ask questions here
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03:00:43pilnei was talking about putting together some linux binaries for nim (and maintaining them of course), but it isn't quite as automated as the "hype" page for openSUSE's build service makes it seem is all (:
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12:24:51SalewskiIs there something like Ruby's each_cons() available for Nim array and sequences? See http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Enumerable.html#method-i-each_cons
12:29:54SalewskiAnd, while I am still logged in: Latest Nim seems to support bitfields. Can c2nim already convert C bitfields for Nim? See http://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#implementation-specific-pragmas-bitsize-pragma
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12:31:07Araqyeah I think c2nim was patched to support it
12:31:59Araqthere is no each_cons, you have to add it
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12:38:32SalewskiGreat -- I will install latest c2nim soon, bitfield support will save a lot work for all the GTK related wrappers!
12:43:32Araqhow much work is it to use pango without gtk?
12:43:56Araqgot my own widgets based on SDL2 but font rendering sucks
12:44:12Araqso I wonder what it takes to move the font rendering over to pango
12:45:53SalewskiPango should work without GTK. I have used it with Cairo only.
12:47:34Araqyeah but I have no cairo context
12:48:05Araqbut an SDL context and I have no idea how to transform different contexts
12:48:07SalewskiFor Pango and SDL2 we may have to ask in pango mailing list.
12:48:47SalewskiHave never used SDL2, sorry.
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13:12:59SalewskiSDL2 with pango seems to be not very popular, but OpenGl and Pango gave me some more Google hits. Maybe see http://cairographics.org/OpenGL/ section "General approach"
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16:43:15federico3dom96: ever benchmarked the tcp/http/asynchttp servers? I'd be curious to have a bench using SO_REUSEPORT
16:43:45dom96federico3: yes, benchmarking is difficult and I found rather unreliable most of the time.
16:43:48dom96*found it
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16:49:44federico3why is it unreliable? Are you running benchmarks on shared hardware?
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18:35:59mat4hello
18:36:35Araqservus
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19:51:23dom96federico3: yeah, I tried to do it in a local virtual machine and that resulted in strange measurements. That was when I only had a Windows machine.
19:51:42dom96My plan was to take some time and buy a 16 core VPS for a couple of hours
19:51:50dom96to do benchmarks on it
19:51:56dom96but never got around to it
20:11:28cryzedhttps://gist.github.com/cryzed/d83753696cf7e1815465
20:11:36cryzedI am trying to use the nre library, because re doesn't work anymore
20:11:57cryzedbut when trying to do this I get an error saying: type mismatch: got (Option[nre.RegeMex])
20:12:00cryzedwhat am I doing wrong?
20:14:40cryzedsorry, the last thing should be named captures
20:14:42cryzedstill the same error
20:15:49cryzedah huh, I had to import "options"
20:16:30cryzedIt has happened twice now that I had to import some obscure package that I'm not using myself, but rather just a module that I'm importing, so I can get that module to work
20:16:33cryzednot my favorite feature of nim
20:16:51cryzedor rather not my favorite thing that they aren't re-exporting the stuff they need
20:17:46ArrrrThat should not happen
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20:19:02cryzedIt does for the nre module. When I only import nre I can't use the examples shown in the readme (i.e. a simple match-thing)
20:19:09cryzedThe readme doesn't say to import the options module
20:19:18cryzedbut after doing so I can use the .get proc
20:19:29ArrrrWell it is a mistake of the readme then
20:19:44cryzedOr the module for not re-exporting the get proc
20:19:46cryzedright?
20:20:44ArrrrIn a way you are right, if that module must be used with options, maybe it should export it. But, on the other hand, you wouldn't know half of the time what is being imported
20:20:52ArrrrI think it is better if explicit
20:21:37cryzedThen it needs to be noted somewhere definitely. Coming from an admittedly completely different language Python, it would just make sense to import a module and then you can use all classes, methods and functions from that module
20:21:49cryzedwithout having to worry about not importing runtime module dependencies for the module you just imported
20:21:52cryzedjust seems counterintuitive
20:22:40mat4cryzed: this is the functionality of 'include'
20:22:57ArrrrYes, it could be counterintuitive. I have to say on the otherhand this is the way other programmin languages work, like java, c#, blahblah
20:23:10cryzedmat4, so I need to use include or the module that I import?
20:23:57cryzedArrrr, java works that way too?
20:24:14cryzedI didn't notice, maybe because of the IDE support
20:24:32ArrrrGo ahead with import. It is part of the philosophy of python to save you the typing.
20:24:44ArrrrYes, eclipse usually autoimport needed classes
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20:26:58mat4cryzed: Never done, just try it out
20:27:25cryzedmat4, thank you but using include seems like the wrong place for it. Now that I understand the problem better I'm fine with using include
20:30:33cryzedeh
20:30:34cryzedimport
20:44:50federico3dom96: dude, no. You really need a physical host with nothing running other than the benchmark
20:45:42dom96federico3: Don't you need two hosts, one to host the server the other to do the benchmarking?
20:45:51dom96If you want to get really reliable :)
20:46:14federico3usually not, but it depends what you are benchmarking
20:52:58cryzedhttps://gist.github.com/cryzed/1ff1a6f3b0e33d6a829d Why does the compiler tell me "attempting to call undeclared routine TokenRegex"?
20:53:05cryzedIsn't TokenRegex defined just above as a tuple-type
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20:58:24cryzedgot it, I didn't even need to define the type
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22:12:01cryzedIs is better/more efficient to use let within a loop, or to create a var outside the loop and reassign to that var within the loop?
22:13:26Araqusually 'let', cryzed
22:14:30cryzedAraq, how come? Am I not creating a new variable / reference each time I'm entering the loop?
22:14:35cryzedIs it optimized out?
22:14:39cryzedSorry some of the details are lost on me
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22:15:11Araqyes.
22:15:21Araqthe compiler optimizes it. (usually)
22:15:54cryzedAraq, ah ok :)
22:17:57cryzedAraq, do you know if new development on Aporia is planned, or if some "standard" IDE is being worked on somewhere in the community? Having something like JetBrain's/Eclipse IDE would be a huge boon -- but of course insanely much work
22:19:31AraqI
22:19:49Araqam working on 'nimedit' from time to time but it's highly opinionated software
22:20:53cryzedAraq, can you elaborate what you mean by opinionated? If it's good opinons I suppose that's fine :D
22:21:58cryzedand I suppose the project still lives within a private repository? Google doesn't turn anything ip
22:22:00cryzed*up
22:22:08Araqhttp://nim-lang.org/nimedit/
22:22:16Araqno, it's closed source for now.
22:22:31Araqand hardly usable hence I didn't announce it
22:22:50AraqI might release 0.9.6 tonight though if I can fix the layouting bugs
22:25:09cryzedAraq, that looks very interesting :)! Color me interested
22:28:37Araqthanks :-)
22:31:29cryzedAraq, http://i.imgur.com/1naeExJ.png I got it to work!
22:32:07Araqha, that version still has "unicode" pragmas
22:32:22AraqI disabled them since they are buggy as you can see
22:32:27cryzedyou mean the } ?
22:32:39Araq {. is a ligature for nimedit
22:32:50Araqand .} sometimes is :P
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22:33:06cryzedah I see. You wanted a special symbol since it's part of the Nim compiler-hint syntax
22:33:14cryzedand so you tried to do that with ligatures?
22:33:33AraqI just played with what can be done in a custom editor really
22:33:52Araqand since a couple of people complain about Nim's pragmas
22:34:03Araqthat they are ugly, I thought "why not, let's try it"
22:34:31cryzedWhat? People complain about having to type {. and .}?...
22:34:41Araqyeah
22:34:45cryzedheh
22:34:46Araqand that it looks ugly
22:34:55cryzedI don't think so
22:35:04cryzedultimatively it's subjective
22:35:16AraqI find these unicode {} curlies really sexy
22:35:26Araqbut dom96 doesn't like them
22:35:48cryzedhaha :D
22:36:04cryzedAraq, I assume changing the font isn't possible as of yet?
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22:36:11dom96:P
22:36:23Araqcryzed: type 'config' in the prompt
22:36:36Araqbut nimedit needs to find your font
22:36:44cryzedAlso I would love if oyu continued working on this -- and possibly make it a bit more well-known at some point. I feel that having a go-to IDE for Nim when just starting would really help adoption. The current state of Nimsuggest integration across various editor is unfortunately a bit... messy
22:37:01cryzedwhoops
22:37:02cryzedit crashed
22:37:03cryzed:D
22:37:38cryzedWhere does it check for the font files?
22:37:45mat4readability =: fø2.ł1,20
22:37:46cryzednext to the executable? current working dir?
22:38:16AraqI don't know, you use 0.9.4
22:38:21Araqwhich is archaic
22:38:24Araq:P
22:38:28cryzedWell there's no newer release as of yet! :D
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22:52:04*dom96 holds up a little sign with "Aporia" written on it
22:52:21*nchambers squints
22:52:29nchamberswhat does that homeless guy's sign say?
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