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| 13:47:23 | fvs | hi, does the nimcache get updated if I change source in ~/.nimble/pkgs/ or should I delete it and recompile? |
| 13:52:43 | Araq | dunno, but use -f to force a full recompile |
| 13:52:50 | Araq | no need to delete nimcache |
| 13:58:48 | fvs | thanks |
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| 14:02:08 | PMunch | brechtm, hi there |
| 14:02:20 | PMunch | I've got the SDL template to work on Android now :) |
| 14:02:47 | fredrik92 | PMunch, aren't you on holiday with your gf?!? |
| 14:03:00 | fredrik92 | :P |
| 14:03:18 | PMunch | And figured out how to do SDL image however that is not 100% compatible with the official SDL wrapper.. |
| 14:03:32 | PMunch | fredrik92, yes I am. She says hi :P |
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| 14:06:05 | Araq | aww |
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| 14:10:03 | PMunch | Oh Araq, by the way. Why does the main component of the SDL wrapper do nothing when in static mode but SDL image adds a header? |
| 14:10:32 | PMunch | Removing the header was all I needed to so to get the compilation to work for Android |
| 14:14:25 | PMunch | s/so/do |
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| 14:20:56 | Araq | PMunch: no idea, please create a PR |
| 14:21:12 | PMunch | So it's not intended to? |
| 14:27:38 | PMunch | github.com/nim-lang/sdl2/pull/71 |
| 14:27:47 | PMunch | Araq, done ^ |
| 14:30:01 | PMunch | Note that I haven't tested that with non-static targets (although it should compile as before for those). Maybe something like what's done in sdl-ttf would be more appropriate |
| 14:30:34 | Araq | dunno, yglukhov needs to review it |
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| 17:42:54 | brechtm_ | PMunch: Hi. Good to hear! I haven't had much time to spend on my game yet. Slowly figuring things out... |
| 17:43:23 | PMunch | I've started porting my old game jam game for fun :) |
| 17:44:00 | PMunch | So far I have mostly written some helper classes like a texture atlas parser and an animation handler |
| 17:44:14 | PMunch | Right now I'm trying to figure out haptic feedback on Android |
| 17:44:36 | PMunch | Having some trouble getting SDL to compile when I include the haptic sub-module |
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| 17:45:54 | PMunch | Getting a weird error: error: conflicting types for 'SDL_GetWindowSize' |
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| 17:53:09 | PMunch | Ah, think I found it now |
| 17:53:37 | PMunch | The sdl wrapper adds some includes when compiling in static mode |
| 17:53:53 | PMunch | Not sure if these are used for something else but they break the compilation on Android |
| 17:55:24 | dyce_ | is it possible to crosscompile for all platforms? |
| 17:55:35 | dyce_ | or do you have to compile on each platform to get working binaries |
| 17:56:16 | namnguyen | dyce_, it is possible to do that. you just need a toolchain for the target platform on your host platform |
| 17:56:45 | dyce_ | is there an osx toolchain available to install on linux? |
| 17:56:55 | namnguyen | there is none. |
| 17:57:17 | namnguyen | (as far as i know) |
| 17:57:34 | dyce_ | darn |
| 17:57:47 | namnguyen | yea, that would be sweet, wouldn't it? |
| 17:57:59 | namnguyen | i think the main problem is in signing. |
| 17:58:14 | dyce_ | how does Go do it? |
| 17:58:35 | namnguyen | you can compile to OS X |
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| 17:59:10 | namnguyen | but you won't be able to release it |
| 17:59:16 | namnguyen | via app store |
| 17:59:29 | dyce_ | oh im not worried about that |
| 18:00:26 | namnguyen | ah, well, then clang can targetMac |
| 18:00:43 | dyce_ | nice nice, it would be cool to setup a docker container |
| 18:01:54 | dyce_ | that compiles for ARM (raspberry pi), mips(openwrt routers). linux,bsd,osx 32/64 all statically linked :) |
| 18:02:13 | namnguyen | yeah |
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| 18:06:24 | dyce_ | does nim have something like requirements.txt from python |
| 18:06:27 | dyce_ | that you can feed nimble |
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| 18:07:43 | PMunch | The .nimble file have dependencies if that's what you're thinking of |
| 18:07:54 | PMunch | Not sure what requirements.txt does |
| 18:15:10 | dyce_ | PMunch: yeah its the same, thanks |
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| 19:32:39 | PMunch | yglukhov, does nimx use the vibration on Android/iPhones? |
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| 20:04:47 | ephja | const dllname = "iup(|30|27|26|25|24).dll" |
| 20:05:07 | ephja | would 3.19 be iup319.dll? :p |
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| 20:12:53 | namnguyen | ephja, in your view, is IUP "production" enough? |
| 20:13:47 | namnguyen | i meant is it a pretty and comprehensive enough as a GUI library? |
| 20:17:21 | PMunch | namnguyen, I haven't tried it all that much. But I was a bit turned off by the fact that to install it on Linux I had to build it from source.. |
| 20:18:22 | PMunch | Types in Nim are so weird.. |
| 20:18:34 | PMunch | Sometimes they convert, sometimes they don't.. |
| 20:22:06 | Araq | it's actually pretty simple: If it can lose information, they don't. |
| 20:22:28 | Araq | and int can be 64 bits so it cannot fit a float. |
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| 20:24:37 | PMunch | Aaah |
| 20:24:46 | PMunch | That actually makes a lot of sense |
| 20:26:32 | PMunch | Maybe add that to the error? |
| 20:26:59 | PMunch | Because without that knowledge the type system can seem really confusing :P |
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| 20:31:34 | PMunch | Speaking of the type system, got any opinion on this Araq: github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4432 |
| 20:33:03 | PMunch | Discovered it while looking into this: github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4431 (See the fix in the last comment) |
| 20:36:30 | Araq | I don't have any opinion yet. |
| 20:37:03 | Araq | seems weird that an explicit toT() call is not much better than T() |
| 20:37:21 | Araq | but "in generic contexts" is usually a convincing argument. |
| 20:38:14 | PMunch | Problem is that a call like int(myType) will not invoke a converter for myType to int |
| 20:38:28 | PMunch | But var:int = myType will work |
| 20:38:46 | PMunch | myType here is a variable of a type by the way, poor choice of name |
| 20:42:38 | Araq | yeah I know. type conversion is pretty fucked up. ask vegansk. |
| 20:47:19 | ephja | PMunch: the archives with the library files aren't enough? was it not available for your package manager? |
| 20:47:28 | ephja | namnguyen: I haven't used it much either, but it does seem decent |
| 20:47:37 | ephja | time to find out |
| 20:50:06 | ephja | so the library only accounts for up to version 3.0, even though additional 3.x versions were available in 2012. |
| 20:51:07 | PMunch | ephja, it's in the AUR |
| 20:51:22 | PMunch | But those are sources which take a while to compile iirc |
| 20:51:43 | ephja | PMunch: ok. I don't think it actually compiled for me |
| 20:52:30 | ephja | I wonder if the headers contain the usual C macro abuse ;) |
| 20:52:38 | ephja | inline all the things with macros |
| 20:53:06 | PMunch | Hmm, there's iup and iup-gtk. Not 100% sure which I downloaded |
| 20:54:27 | ephja | a complete QML interface would be a great addition to the ecosystem. A high level gtk+ 3 interface too, but people dislike gtk for various reasons |
| 20:55:52 | yglukhov | PMunch: no, no vibration api. |
| 20:57:09 | PMunch | I asked over in #sdl as well. There are apparently some patches in the pipe that adds it as a haptic device in SDL |
| 20:58:43 | namnguyen | ephja, yeah, i'd prefer a more native L&F than Gtk |
| 20:59:35 | namnguyen | IUP offers native L&F. but it also seems to me that its library of widgets/components is not as comprehensive as other libraries. |
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| 21:01:22 | PMunch | L&F? |
| 21:01:30 | namnguyen | look and feel, sir |
| 21:01:35 | ephja | that's probably true |
| 21:01:35 | PMunch | Ah |
| 21:02:16 | PMunch | I guess the lack of widgets is down to it using the native libraries |
| 21:02:34 | PMunch | So it ends up with the union of all the supported platforms |
| 21:02:57 | namnguyen | PMunch, wxWidgets offers the same l&f and a large collection of widgets. |
| 21:03:11 | namnguyen | no real mature Nim binding for it, though |
| 21:03:26 | namnguyen | there are some binding. in fact, Araq worked on one. |
| 21:03:30 | PMunch | That's a shame |
| 21:03:45 | PMunch | I've used it with Python before |
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| 21:11:41 | ephja | so many libs are still available on sourceforge |
| 21:15:39 | Araq | namnguyen: still working on it, in fact |
| 21:15:45 | Araq | release is only a few days away ... |
| 21:17:40 | PMunch | Ooh, nice |
| 21:18:08 | ephja | indeed |
| 21:18:37 | ephja | I'd prefer not to touch C++, but you barely have to IIRC |
| 21:19:00 | ephja | and the C++ interfacing is really convenient |
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| 21:22:12 | ephja | "libiup(|3.0|2.7|2.6|2.5|2.4).so(|.1)" would the SO files even be named that way on linux? the DLL archives don't have version numbers embedded in the filenames. oh the confusion |
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| 21:58:42 | ndh | hey there, i'm having a bit of trouble with quite a simple program. could someone take a look? this is my first time using nim. i'm using cc = vcc. https://gist.github.com/haferburg/25796c66926f81b2efb4862568d48977 |
| 21:59:03 | ndh | there's no nim compiler errors, just vc errors |
| 22:03:20 | Araq | ndh: interesting, I've never seen this error before |
| 22:03:37 | Araq | it's as if vcc stopped parsing C code :P |
| 22:03:58 | ndh | it looks like maybe it's a function with an empty name? |
| 22:04:03 | ndh | i've added the .c file |
| 22:04:07 | ndh | that was generated |
| 22:05:05 | Araq | ah I see. |
| 22:05:10 | Araq | interesting. |
| 22:05:19 | ndh | this is vc 2010 btw |
| 22:05:44 | Araq | are you on Nim devel? |
| 22:05:57 | ndh | i don't know what that is so my guess is no :) |
| 22:06:24 | Araq | well use a more recent vc then please |
| 22:07:48 | ndh | ok |
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| 22:10:53 | ndh | ok it's working with the vs 12 compiler |
| 22:11:00 | ndh | just two warnings: |
| 22:11:08 | ndh | nimcache\greetings.c(471) : warning C4113: 'void (__cdecl *)()' differs in parameter lists from 'Globalmarkerproc56602' |
| 22:11:17 | ndh | nimcache\stdlib_system.c(12306) : warning C4113: 'void (__cdecl *)()' differs in parameter lists from 'Globalmarkerproc56602' |
| 22:12:55 | Araq | yeah that warning indicates a real bug |
| 22:13:02 | Araq | that I need to look into |
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| 22:13:27 | ndh | ok. do you think you need anything else from me to help you fix it? |
| 22:14:08 | ndh | the nim.cfg file? |
| 22:14:30 | Araq | nah. but create a github issue |
| 22:14:38 | Araq | so that you can track its progress. |
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| 22:21:25 | ndh | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4459 let me know if you need anything else |
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| 22:44:02 | cheatfate | Araq, i have seen this warnings |
| 22:45:01 | cheatfate | When compiling asynchttpserver on windows with `vcc` |
| 22:45:16 | cheatfate | vcc from visual studio 2015 |
| 22:46:58 | Araq | cheatfate: fix it. |
| 22:47:22 | cheatfate | ^^^ i though you want to fix it :) |
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| 22:49:27 | cheatfate | i even dont understand what is `nimRegisterGlobalMarker` |
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| 23:01:19 | Araq | you don't have to understand it. |
| 23:01:31 | Araq | the calling conventions differ and that's all that matters. |
| 23:01:39 | Araq | so make them the same. |
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