| 00:00:22 | flaviu | curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ekarlso/nimvm/master/install.sh | bash should be curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ekarlso/nimvm/master/scripts/install.sh | sh |
| 00:00:43 | ekarlso | :p |
| 00:00:57 | ekarlso | flaviu: pm welcome :p |
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| 00:05:57 | BlaXpirit | .eval var a: seq[int]; a.items |
| 00:06:00 | Mimbus | BlaXpirit: eval.nim(4, 1) Error: expression 'items' cannot be called |
| 00:06:01 | BlaXpirit | what does this mean? |
| 00:06:14 | Araq | it's an iterator |
| 00:06:26 | Araq | you can call it in a for loop context |
| 00:06:39 | BlaXpirit | how do I pass it to a function then? |
| 00:06:43 | BlaXpirit | oh.. |
| 00:06:46 | BlaXpirit | closure, huh |
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| 00:12:52 | OderWat | @flaviu @ekarlso the instructions are not up to date anyway. the path does not exists anymore |
| 00:13:33 | flaviu | OderWat: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ekarlso/nim-vm/master/bin/nim-vm |
| 00:13:50 | OderWat | I wrote a "change" list about nim-vm in the forum: http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/996 ... The readme needs to be fixed and I think there should be some instructions too. But know I am lazy for the remaining evening I guess |
| 00:14:26 | OderWat | TY @flaviu ;-) |
| 00:14:46 | OderWat | know = now :) |
| 00:32:17 | BlaXpirit | how to implement typeclass for random access container? |
| 00:32:41 | BlaXpirit | c.high is SomeInteger is good |
| 00:32:46 | BlaXpirit | c[i] is T is not good |
| 00:45:51 | OderWat | @ekarlso pull request for readme is up :) |
| 00:57:25 | ekarlso | flaviu: would you have a lumx app or a bootstrap one ? |
| 00:57:33 | ekarlso | I tested bootstrap just for the feck of it |
| 00:58:30 | flaviu | lumx looks better |
| 00:58:30 | flaviu | /me loves the click circles |
| 00:58:31 | flaviu | Try enabling caching first, see how that improves performance. |
| 00:58:37 | ekarlso | ok :p |
| 00:58:40 | flaviu | \me loves the click circles |
| 00:58:55 | ekarlso | client failure :p |
| 01:00:26 | flaviu | Looking at the code a bit, can you use flex-item=2 on the version and CC? Seems to fix all the overlapping issues. |
| 01:00:53 | ekarlso | flaviu: yeah |
| 01:01:08 | ekarlso | btw, version isnt supported on the backend yet :p |
| 01:01:17 | ekarlso | i got it here locally running just not upped it |
| 01:01:36 | Varriount | ekarlso: Responded to your post for nim-vm on the forum. |
| 01:02:24 | ekarlso | huh ? :p |
| 01:02:29 | ekarlso | i didnt post anything there :p |
| 01:02:33 | ekarlso | I think |
| 01:02:35 | OderWat | @Varriount I guess you mean me :) |
| 01:02:39 | Varriount | Oh, wait, that was OderWat |
| 01:02:51 | flaviu | What if I want to choose Nim 0.10.2? The backend won't let me choose between 0.10.2 and 0.10.2! |
| 01:02:57 | flaviu | ;) |
| 01:03:14 | ekarlso | between what flaviu ? :p |
| 01:04:48 | flaviu | It's a joke, I'm presenting an alternative choice identical to the other choice. |
| 01:06:37 | Varriount | Do I choose hydrogen dioxide, or water. I don't know. :P |
| 01:06:54 | ekarlso | flaviu: is perf any better ? |
| 01:07:31 | flaviu | ekarlso: I don't think adding nginx is enough, you probably need to add something to the config. |
| 01:07:51 | BlaXpirit | OderWat, you wanna make a pull request with this? https://gist.github.com/BlaXpirit/ef63776bbe566be1a93c I'll take it from there |
| 01:08:27 | BlaXpirit | (talking about random) to the bottom of common.nim |
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| 01:09:07 | flaviu | ekarlso: http://www.cruisemaniac.com/nginx-caching-and-compression |
| 01:11:05 | OderWat | @Varriount I answered on the forum. not sure how helpful that is actually. I have not idea about installing on windows |
| 01:14:38 | OderWat | @BlaXpirit I make one! Looks cood |
| 01:16:36 | BlaXpirit | 3 AM though :| |
| 01:16:47 | OderWat | @BlaXpirit Do you want me to replace the existing iterator or add it as a proc? |
| 01:17:16 | BlaXpirit | OderWat, you can pretty much append the code to the bottom of src/random/common.nim |
| 01:17:57 | OderWat | Hmm it looks more it belongs into random.nim as there is a iterator with the same name at the lower part of the source |
| 01:18:32 | BlaXpirit | random.nim just has aliases. you can make an alias as well if you want |
| 01:18:59 | OderWat | ah well I just looked into the common.nim makes more sense ! |
| 01:23:14 | ekarlso | meh flaviu http://185.56.186.94/#/ |
| 01:23:18 | ekarlso | doesnt seem to help too much :/ |
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| 01:27:57 | ekarlso | oh |
| 01:27:58 | flaviu | ekarlso: It helps *tremendously*. |
| 01:27:59 | ekarlso | nvm |
| 01:28:02 | ekarlso | it's caching now :p |
| 01:28:22 | ekarlso | so yeah, nginx is now serving all content :) |
| 01:28:34 | flaviu | 320ms page loads are 10x better than 3s page loads. |
| 01:28:42 | ekarlso | :P |
| 01:28:54 | ekarlso | doesn't help that you are over tha atlantic also :D |
| 01:29:00 | ekarlso | the server is located in norway ;) |
| 01:29:17 | flaviu | Yep, move the server to atlanta! I want 50ms page loads! |
| 01:29:31 | ekarlso | hah :p |
| 01:29:42 | ekarlso | I got hpcloud in nevada if that's fine :p |
| 01:30:53 | flaviu | That's only 2x closer than norway :/ |
| 01:31:06 | flaviu | but 320 ms is fast enough. |
| 01:31:06 | ekarlso | hah :p |
| 01:31:18 | flaviu | If Nim gets bigger, you can get a CDN for the assets. |
| 01:31:29 | ekarlso | nim gets bigger ? |
| 01:31:40 | ekarlso | how does that change it :) |
| 01:32:06 | ekarlso | fixed the width of the select flaviu |
| 01:32:20 | ekarlso | so then just gotta fix passing of the opts to the api |
| 01:32:28 | ekarlso | ill get that up tmrw |
| 01:32:42 | ekarlso | now I gotta go sleep before the kiddo wakes up :/ |
| 01:33:35 | onionhammer | ekarlso latest output should be at the top\ |
| 01:33:48 | flaviu | ekarlso: How about cloudflare? |
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| 01:34:01 | ekarlso | flaviu: probably :) |
| 01:34:14 | flaviu | They have a free tier that looks pretty useful. |
| 01:36:26 | flaviu | I'm going to bug dom96 to add cloudflare to the nim site. |
| 01:37:37 | ekarlso | :p |
| 01:37:43 | ekarlso | docs from the nim site |
| 01:37:53 | ekarlso | should have it's own domain ish a'ls docs.nim-lang.org |
| 01:38:13 | ekarlso | onionhammer: fixed |
| 01:38:39 | ekarlso | anyways, calling it a night, seeya tmrw |
| 01:39:06 | onionhammer | god natt |
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| 02:51:11 | MagusOTB | I think I found a typo in opengl.nim |
| 02:51:14 | MagusOTB | GLarray4f* = GLvectorf4 |
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| 02:51:38 | MagusOTB | the rest of them are GLarrayTN |
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| 04:07:37 | kashyap_ | How do I declare a variable "static" as in local variable but program lifetime |
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| 04:29:53 | fowl | kashyap_, proc main = ...; main() |
| 04:30:18 | fowl | oh nevermind i read that wrong |
| 04:30:26 | kashyap_ | ok :) |
| 04:30:41 | fowl | a global variable is defined in the top level of a module |
| 04:30:58 | kashyap_ | yeah ..that's what I am doing for now |
| 04:30:59 | fowl | inside a function you can get static variable with {.global.} |
| 04:32:11 | fowl | var x{.global.} = 0 |
| 04:34:48 | kashyap_ | oh cool, thanks fowl |
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| 04:54:22 | fowl | ekarlso, the repl looks good. i was going to recommend dyndns for a url but they arent free anymore, found this though http://lifehacker.com/the-best-free-alternatives-to-dyndns-1561556205 |
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| 05:04:19 | kashyap_ | is there a way to initialize arrays in a way that I assign values to specific indices ... |
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| 05:05:25 | fowl | other than arr[n] = value, arr = [0,1,2,3] |
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| 05:20:27 | kashyap_ | yes ... in c one can do int x[10] = { [9] 100} |
| 05:20:35 | kashyap_ | where 9th index has the value 100 |
| 05:27:21 | fowl | i would write a macro to do it |
| 05:29:13 | kashyap_ | oh okay |
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| 05:32:19 | fowl | kashyap_, https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/faf44627440db3ef70f1 |
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| 05:32:46 | kashyap_ | awesome...thank you so much fowl |
| 05:33:16 | fowl | oops that should be len(args)-1 |
| 05:33:38 | kashyap_ | ok |
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| 05:36:20 | kashyap_ | fowl quick question - cant the macro do the declaration as well? |
| 05:36:56 | fowl | it could |
| 05:38:58 | kashyap_ | actually, fowl, could you give me a macro that expands to initialization instead of assignment |
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| 05:40:49 | fowl | yep 1 sec |
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| 06:00:07 | fowl | kashyap_, i cant make it work right now , found a bug |
| 06:00:21 | kashyap_ | bug in nim? |
| 06:00:32 | fowl | yea |
| 06:01:36 | kashyap_ | good something good came out of it :) |
| 06:02:31 | fowl | kashyap_, to make it work at initialization i was going to return (; var x: ty; x[index] = value; x) |
| 06:04:19 | kashyap_ | actually fowl .. what I need is more like - setIndeces(x, 5, 0, 9, 2, 20) -> var x: array[5, int] = [9, 0, 20, 0, 0] |
| 06:04:46 | fowl | kashyap_, that version works |
| 06:05:06 | kashyap_ | oh great. ... could you post it please |
| 06:08:46 | fowl | kashyap_, https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/faf44627440db3ef70f1#file-gistfile2-nim |
| 06:10:07 | kashyap_ | super! |
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| 06:11:14 | fowl | macros are awesome |
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| 06:13:42 | fowl | oh it wasnt a bug that kept that from working |
| 06:13:55 | fowl | i needed to change :stmt on the macro to expr |
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| 06:15:51 | kashyap_ | fowl you bet :) |
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| 07:19:23 | kashyap_ | Hey fowl, you there? |
| 07:19:43 | fowl | sup |
| 07:20:11 | kashyap_ | the declArray seems to do the assignment .. which means the values are assigned at run time |
| 07:20:29 | kashyap_ | It's not doing - setIndeces(x, 5, 0, 9, 2, 20) -> var x: array[5, int] = [9, 0, 20, 0, 0] |
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| 07:37:09 | fowl | no its not |
| 07:42:03 | kashyap_ | hey fowl .. could I request you to give me a version that produces the initialization array - I am trying with nnkBracket but its not working |
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| 07:46:58 | fowl | kashyap_, i updated the gist |
| 07:47:35 | fowl | kashyap_, i filled the nnkBracket with size 0s then in the loop i replace the 0 with the argument |
| 07:47:46 | kashyap_ | cool :) |
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| 07:48:20 | kashyap_ | thank you so much fowl |
| 07:49:00 | fowl | kashyap_, i did it the other way so that it could work on any type, you should pass a default value so that it could be an array of something other than int |
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| 10:11:12 | BlaXpirit | Is there a way to invoke a macro on an include? |
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| 10:31:51 | novist | BlaXpirit: doesnt my_macro include "thing" work? |
| 10:34:19 | BlaXpirit | wha |
| 10:35:01 | novist | actually guess not. but i suppose you can make my_include("file.nim") which would make ast of include with whatever else you want |
| 10:37:55 | ekarlso | morning :p |
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| 11:08:14 | fowl | BlaXpirit, m: include foo |
| 11:09:06 | BlaXpirit | i remember doing something like this, it told me include must be at top level |
| 11:09:31 | fowl | you might be able to emit include at the top level then |
| 11:10:32 | BlaXpirit | but it seems to work. i probably did something different |
| 11:10:45 | BlaXpirit | thanks |
| 11:11:13 | BlaXpirit | what the heck |
| 11:11:18 | BlaXpirit | importing modules gives me output |
| 11:11:45 | BlaXpirit | oh including* |
| 11:12:32 | BlaXpirit | and by output i mean the unit tests run |
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| 11:17:40 | fowl | that makes sense |
| 11:17:45 | fowl | i meant to say import |
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| 11:33:44 | BlaXpirit | seems like having multiple templates with the same name doesn't work |
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| 11:56:56 | Araq | BlaXpirit: of course it works. |
| 11:57:15 | BlaXpirit | well it told me wrong number of arguments |
| 11:57:18 | Araq | but not with .immediate |
| 11:57:26 | BlaXpirit | right |
| 12:00:29 | Araq | def-: why is my.a[0..my.a.high] = my.c[0..my.c.high] still faster than the alternatives? |
| 12:00:45 | Araq | the my.c[..] produces a fresh substring |
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| 12:14:26 | arnetheduck | hi, a question about the nim source code: is the T before the types necessary somehow or just convention? if convention, is it intentional, or a leftover from pascal? |
| 12:14:52 | BlaXpirit | obsolete convention |
| 12:15:25 | arnetheduck | ok, seems kind of redundant since the types are already uppercased |
| 12:15:36 | def- | Araq: strange, can't reproduce in microbenchmarks. my bad then I guess |
| 12:15:39 | arnetheduck | what about P for ref types, also obsolete? |
| 12:15:42 | BlaXpirit | Nim used to be completely case-insensitive |
| 12:16:02 | arnetheduck | ah, interesting |
| 12:16:34 | Araq | arnetheduck: T was for value types, P for reference types, contrary to popular belief case-insensitivity was not the primary reason for this convention |
| 12:18:20 | Araq | got compile-times of 'niminst' from 10s to 2s :D |
| 12:18:38 | Araq | with a 2 line fix in the GC |
| 12:18:41 | def- | Araq: what made it slow? |
| 12:18:53 | Araq | the compiler hates my GC :P |
| 12:19:01 | Araq | it's deeply recursive |
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| 12:19:29 | BlaXpirit | I have a type `array[5, int]`. how to get the `int` from it? |
| 12:19:39 | Araq | type(a[0]) ? |
| 12:20:14 | BlaXpirit | Error: internal error: cannot generate VM code for type (bytes[0]) |
| 12:20:30 | Araq | nice :-) |
| 12:21:27 | Araq | BlaXpirit: in a VM context it's better to use the new types API |
| 12:21:41 | BlaXpirit | any pointer to it? |
| 12:22:00 | arnetheduck | so doc/intern.txt is also obsolete/needs-fix? looks like it's still recommending T/P.. |
| 12:22:28 | Araq | doc/intern.txt is about the compiler, the compiler still uses T/P |
| 12:23:38 | Araq | BlaXpirit: macros.getType() |
| 12:29:30 | arnetheduck | I saw some redundant whitespace cleanup in the compiler the other day, could post a quick patch removing the rest if there's interest |
| 12:30:45 | arnetheduck | s/redundant/trailing |
| 12:31:09 | def- | arnetheduck: some people tried before, PRs were not accepted |
| 12:31:33 | Araq | arnetheduck: I prefer to do it incrementally |
| 12:31:46 | Araq | whenever I touch a file, whitespace is not deleted |
| 12:31:53 | Araq | *is now |
| 12:32:26 | Araq | but I don't like huge whitespace cleanup commits |
| 12:34:24 | arnetheduck | noticed, had to go look for the ignore whitespace option when looking at recent developments ;) |
| 12:39:57 | arnetheduck | another question - dead code elimination is listed as a feature, and when running nim, it looks like it compiles all deps every time to figure it out.. is there anything planned for incremental / partial compiles? I tried symbolFiles but couldn't get it to work (issue 1031) |
| 12:41:03 | arnetheduck | also, dce is akin to running whole-program lto in the c/c++ world? |
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| 12:45:05 | Araq | arnetheduck: well --symbolfiles worked quite well before we broke them. so as a proof of the concept, yes it works. but we'll fix it after 1.0 is out. |
| 12:49:00 | Araq | and yeah dce==lto |
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| 12:50:42 | emilsp-home | hello, this might not be a completely related question, but how does one do efficient string searching ? |
| 12:50:51 | emilsp-home | if it were ascii, I'd just have a tree |
| 12:52:33 | Araq | depends on lots of aspects |
| 12:53:00 | Araq | but you can usually treat utf-8 strings like ascii strings for searching |
| 12:53:40 | Araq | perhaps you need some normalization step before the search |
| 12:53:52 | emilsp-home | so I can just cast a single character to int and compare it as such to build a balanced tree ? |
| 12:54:09 | Araq | you don't need to cast anything |
| 12:54:20 | Araq | you can do someChar < otherChar |
| 12:54:45 | emilsp-home | that's convenient. Thanks. |
| 12:54:46 | Araq | but usually hash tables completely outperform trees |
| 12:55:10 | Araq | you can try if Nim's crit bit trees beat hash tables |
| 12:55:16 | Araq | but iirc usually they don't |
| 12:55:42 | Araq | and a critbit tree is MUCH better than a balanced tree for strings |
| 12:55:56 | emilsp-home | I need it to be promiscuous, or can I actually make a substring's hash match a real string ? |
| 12:57:11 | Araq | hum? |
| 12:57:31 | Araq | usually our hashing function is fine |
| 12:58:29 | emilsp-home | well, what I mean by that is can I find all strings which are a 'superstring' of a substring by using a hashmap ? |
| 12:58:33 | emilsp-home | if so, how does that work ? |
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| 13:05:07 | Araq | ah well it doesn't :P |
| 13:07:52 | emilsp-home | thus, a crit bit tree would be the best choice. Thanks for the assistance :) |
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| 13:23:58 | ekarlso | OderWat: you around ? |
| 13:42:54 | OderWat | @ekarlso now.. hey |
| 13:47:53 | BlaXpirit | .eval echo uint64.high |
| 13:47:56 | Mimbus | BlaXpirit: eval.nim(3, 11) Error: invalid argument for 'high' |
| 13:47:57 | BlaXpirit | why |
| 13:48:38 | Araq | because uint64 is not an ordinal type |
| 13:48:47 | BlaXpirit | what can be done about this? |
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| 13:49:21 | Araq | go through the whole compiler and ensure that it handles uint64 <-> int64 computations everywhere properly |
| 13:51:44 | BlaXpirit | a kludge it is then |
| 13:52:15 | Araq | as a bonus you'll learn to appreciate what a mess it is to support C's type zoo. |
| 13:52:38 | Araq | and you'll learn to hate unsigned as much as I do. |
| 13:52:58 | BlaXpirit | or i just write when T is uint64: |
| 13:53:21 | arnetheduck | hm, let's say I'm working on a module (without a main).. what's an easy way to compile just that module to see that it's syntax is ok etc? ie without compiling the main? |
| 13:54:27 | fowl | arnetheduck, put your "main code" inside when isMainModule: block |
| 13:54:57 | fowl | many modules have tests at the bottom of them |
| 13:55:18 | fowl | that code only runs when you compile that module directly, or include it |
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| 13:56:21 | Araq | arnetheduck: 'nim check module.nim' |
| 13:59:31 | arnetheduck | Araq, perfect, thanks! not part of nim --help |
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| 14:00:13 | arnetheduck | fowl, I'm fooling around a little with the compiler, so I want to check my changes without recompiling the entire project |
| 14:00:58 | fowl | ah |
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| 14:32:37 | sepisoad | is it possible to get latest nim compiler version using nimble package manager? |
| 14:35:57 | BlaXpirit | no, that's not what it does |
| 14:36:19 | BlaXpirit | there might be a possibility, but i've never heard of this |
| 14:40:36 | sepisoad | BlaXpirit, i'm trying to install c2nim package via nimble, but unfortunately this package depends on nim (>= 0.10.3) where my nim compiler version is 0.10.2 |
| 14:40:48 | BlaXpirit | ok |
| 14:41:49 | BlaXpirit | sepisoad, http://google.com/#q=site%3Anim-lang.org+0.10.3 |
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| 15:30:16 | sepisoad | I got the latest nim compiler, but unfortunately when I try to install c2nim I get this error: |
| 15:30:17 | sepisoad | .nimble/pkgs/compiler-0.10.3/compiler/msgs.nim(727, 9) Error: undeclared identifier: 'stackTraceAvailable' |
| 15:35:59 | OderWat | I found that it is best to not have compiler installed with nimble at all |
| 15:37:08 | OderWat | and use the current compiler from source.. maybe with the "new" https://github.com/ekarlso/nim-vm which I just updated to handle that easily |
| 15:39:10 | OderWat | I just tried it. delete compiler from packages and remove it from the nimble file of c2nim .. nimble build .. works |
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| 15:45:50 | sepisoad | I dunno, will try it tomorrow, my mind is tired |
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| 15:54:09 | OderWat | @ekarlso :) quick merges! I just tested manual install from "nothing" to "100%" on osx and ubuntu. seems to work fine. I didn't check your bootscript though. |
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| 18:08:18 | ekarlso | flaviu: u tharr ? |
| 18:08:26 | flaviu | yep |
| 18:08:32 | ekarlso | http://185.56.186.94/#/ |
| 18:08:38 | ekarlso | versions doesnt work but cc does |
| 18:08:44 | ekarlso | and the switches |
| 18:10:08 | flaviu | http://i.imgur.com/DsEFgQz.png |
| 18:11:21 | flaviu | Work for me on gcc |
| 18:11:35 | flaviu | Looks good though! |
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| 18:24:11 | perturbation | hey all |
| 18:25:52 | perturbation | I was looking through the wrapper for Urhonimo (trying to use to figure out better wrapping methods for C++) |
| 18:26:12 | perturbation | and there's some magic that it does with importcpp for wrapping a template that I'm trying to figure out |
| 18:26:26 | perturbation | anyone know what this (https://gist.github.com/singularperturbation/98af505d5623712b29fe) does? |
| 18:26:40 | onionhammer | ekarlso hows it coming |
| 18:26:47 | onionhammer | its looking good :) |
| 18:27:13 | onionhammer | ekarlso you should set up CTRL+enter to run w/o unfocusing editor |
| 18:29:14 | ekarlso | onionhammer: patches are welcome :p |
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| 18:31:13 | fowl | perturbation, i will find the docs for it, basically '*0 is a pattern splat the generics |
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| 18:32:55 | no_name_ | any folks with jester experience around? I'm having trouble with c compilation errors whenever I call a function with a variable parameter in a resp |
| 18:33:25 | perturbation | fowl: gotcha, thanks (I thought so after reading through http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/870#5740) |
| 18:36:38 | fowl | perturbation, i can't find docs for it, basically @ expands to all arguments, so a static function looks like importcpp:"Foo::X(@)", you can use # for individual arguments "#->foo(#@)" will expand the first param on the left of -> and the rest in the parens (it might be @#) |
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| 18:37:12 | perturbation | thanks fowl |
| 18:37:58 | fowl | '0 is type param 0, '*0 is 0 .. all type params iirc |
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| 18:40:26 | devzerp | oh weird.. the jest problem is caused by running the main webserver look from inside of a proc - why would that be a problem? |
| 18:40:55 | devzerp | er.. the jester compilation problem is caused by running the main webserver loop from inside of a proc - why would that be a problem? |
| 18:41:38 | fowl | devzerp, can you paste the errors in a gist |
| 18:41:50 | fowl | and compile with -d:debug |
| 18:42:00 | fowl | paste all output from compilation |
| 18:43:46 | devzerp | fowl: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/15eb423c256704d556db |
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| 18:44:37 | UberLambda | Is there any way to specify an absolute path for the nimcache folder? |
| 18:44:53 | UberLambda | The --nimcache option seems to always treat a path as relative to the source file |
| 18:46:09 | devzerp | fowl: here's the compiler output: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8b5bec6e3054b03464cb |
| 18:49:20 | devzerp | if I remove the web() proc, it compiles and runs as expected, also if I change the variable to a const (as opposed to a var or let) it also compiles even inside the function |
| 18:53:00 | fowl | devzerp, probably because you're capturing a string thats local to a function in one thread |
| 18:53:46 | devzerp | I didn't realize that there are multiple threads in play with this code |
| 18:54:49 | fowl | asyncdispatch uses futures but thats all hidden from jester |
| 18:55:29 | devzerp | if you pass it in as an argument to web(), it also fails -- how are you supposed to interact with external procs? |
| 18:56:11 | devzerp | all state has to be an annotated global variable? |
| 18:56:44 | fowl | runForever runs forever, it should probably be in the top level of the module? |
| 18:57:28 | fowl | https://gist.github.com/fowlmouth/5f297fed52ae5fadada5 |
| 18:57:39 | devzerp | fowl: I wanted to run two parallel threads (one was a webserver, the other a scheduled task background task handler) and wanted to spawn each off as a function |
| 18:58:56 | devzerp | is that a bad idea? |
| 19:00:26 | fowl | hmm i dont see the purpose |
| 19:01:21 | devzerp | maybe I just don't understand threading and futures in nim yet - do you have any documentation pointers that might help me? |
| 19:01:27 | fowl | i bet you could wrap the second thing into a future though to accomplish it |
| 19:02:38 | devzerp | yeah, that sounds like I might want to do that |
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| 19:03:32 | fowl | stick around for someone who actually knows though |
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| 19:07:35 | fowl | documentation on asyncdispatch is sparse |
| 19:07:38 | ekarlso | OderWat: I think ill revert your change about "nimvm install / update" executes use as well |
| 19:07:41 | fowl | http://nim-lang.org/asyncdispatch.html |
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| 19:28:01 | dom96 | devzerp: 'routes' should be at the top level. |
| 19:28:10 | dom96 | You shouldn't be putting them inside a function. |
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| 19:55:36 | OderWat | @ekarlso well I was not sure about them anyway. What about adding an "activate" or "use" as additional parameter for convenience? |
| 19:56:17 | ekarlso | OderWat: yeah |
| 19:56:57 | OderWat | @ekarlso I think activate is better than use what do you think? |
| 19:57:12 | ekarlso | OderWat: :p |
| 19:57:36 | OderWat | @ekarlso :-P |
| 20:00:21 | onionhammer | ekarslo I'll make pull requests if I can get it running locally :p |
| 20:01:00 | onionhammer | dom96 it shouldnt generate C errors imo |
| 20:01:19 | ekarlso | onionhammer: play ? |
| 20:01:20 | dom96 | onionhammer: if it's generating C errors then it's a bug |
| 20:01:32 | onionhammer | ekarlso yeah |
| 20:01:37 | dom96 | likely already been reported though |
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| 20:02:02 | Araq | yup |
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| 20:04:18 | onionhammer | ekarlso instructions for getting it running w/ vagrant :) |
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| 20:10:07 | ekarlso | what you guys think |
| 20:10:14 | ekarlso | 1 chroot pr version |
| 20:10:18 | ekarlso | or 1 chroot for all ? |
| 20:18:25 | ekarlso | no meanings about that ? :p |
| 20:21:48 | OderWat | chroot-beer for all! (I made PRs for the nim-vm changes) |
| 20:22:27 | ekarlso | OderWat: meh :p |
| 20:22:31 | ekarlso | I fixed it I think already :p |
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| 20:23:53 | OderWat | np. it's better than mine I guess. but take the other PR it fixes 0.9 builds |
| 20:25:34 | ekarlso | done :p |
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| 20:26:55 | BlaXpirit | guys, what do you think about adding likely,unlikely pragmas for `if` conditions? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/109710 |
| 20:27:46 | Araq | BlaXpirit: system.likely exists |
| 20:27:59 | Araq | a bit weird it's not a pragma |
| 20:28:10 | Araq | but understandable when you look at the implementation |
| 20:28:30 | BlaXpirit | sure is weird because I only looked in manual and didn't find |
| 20:28:56 | Araq | will you ever use the index? |
| 20:29:16 | BlaXpirit | why would I look for a pragma in the index? |
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| 20:30:48 | Araq | nimc.html also lists a couple of pragmas |
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| 20:37:49 | matkuki | Hi guys, a question. Just noticed that in an 'if' statement with an empty block you put a double comment and nothing else, the compiler accepts it. |
| 20:37:51 | matkuki | No need for a discard statement. Is this the correct behaviour? |
| 20:42:47 | Araq | I think so as documentation comments are part of the AST/grammar |
| 20:43:07 | Araq | this used to be valid for any comment |
| 20:43:28 | Araq | but now comments are ignored "properly" |
| 20:43:35 | Araq | and doc comments are not |
| 20:44:20 | matkuki | Araq: Thanks. |
| 20:47:09 | emilsp-home | hey, regarding the unicode module, how do I construct a rune and how would I transform a regular string to a sequence of runes ? |
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| 20:47:13 | Mat4 | hello |
| 20:47:38 | emilsp-home | hello, Mat4 |
| 20:47:53 | Mat4 | hi emilsp-hole |
| 20:47:59 | Mat4 | sorry home |
| 20:48:36 | BlaXpirit | D: Mat4, you gotta try to type em<Tab> |
| 20:48:36 | Araq | emilsp-home: don't do that. even UTF-32 is a variable length encoding, so you don't gain anything |
| 20:48:39 | OderWat | @ekarlso well your activate thing does not work at all for me? did you test it actually? |
| 20:49:19 | BlaXpirit | Araq, this is misleading |
| 20:50:14 | Mat4 | BlaXpirit: thanks |
| 20:50:14 | Araq | BlaXpirit: no, it's not. |
| 20:50:21 | Araq | it's the truth |
| 20:50:21 | Jehan_ | Assuming `str` is UTF-8, toSeq(str.runes) should do it. `toSeq` is in strutils. |
| 20:50:41 | Araq | unicode is *hard* ;-) |
| 20:50:45 | Jehan_ | Whether you really want to do it is a different story. :) |
| 20:50:58 | OderWat | unicode != UTF-whatever though |
| 20:51:14 | Mat4 | oh, unicode related discussions, great |
| 20:51:22 | OderWat | nooooooo |
| 20:51:26 | Varriount | Mat4: Duck and cover! |
| 20:52:39 | ekarlso | what error OderWat ? :/ |
| 20:53:11 | OderWat | @ekarlso see the issue but just looking at the code shows that this can not work :) |
| 20:54:06 | OderWat | @ekarlso it also does not do anything good with the getopts for me anyway as I just tested :( |
| 20:54:38 | Mat4 | Varriound: Sorry, what does this mean ? |
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| 21:01:41 | BlaXpirit | D: Mat4, you gotta try to type va<Tab> |
| 21:02:32 | Mat4 | well, keyboard and coffee is a bad combination |
| 21:02:32 | flaviu | "UTF-32 is a variable length encoding" |
| 21:02:32 | flaviu | Source please? |
| 21:04:46 | BlaXpirit | flaviu, just FUD about combining characters |
| 21:04:53 | def- | flaviu: maybe he means that multiple combining marks can belong to a character |
| 21:05:01 | flaviu | Ah, I see. |
| 21:06:00 | Jehan_ | Huh, I'm seeing that only now. My mind had somehow read that as UTF-16. |
| 21:08:24 | OderWat | @ekarlso your new fix won't work either (for me?) I made one which works here |
| 21:10:44 | OderWat | @ekarlso what shell do you use ? if [ something = 1]; then .. will always execute something as cmd for me. |
| 21:12:47 | OderWat | @ekarlso it also strips all parameters till "--" such that if you give nim-vm -a arg1 arg2 it will always strip all the arguments and shows usage cause $1 is gone |
| 21:13:10 | OderWat | ahem.. how to start a private conversation. irc help please :) |
| 21:13:43 | OderWat | found it :) |
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| 21:16:59 | fowl | ekarlso, can you share yet? i dont see it |
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| 21:24:14 | BlaXpirit | where is ldexp? |
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| 21:26:49 | BlaXpirit | {.importc: "ldexp", header: "<math.h>".} i suppose |
| 21:27:42 | def- | BlaXpirit: and when defined(Posix) and not defined(haiku): {.passl: "-lm".} |
| 21:28:05 | BlaXpirit | def-, doesn't "import math" guarantee that? |
| 21:28:10 | def- | sure, it does |
| 21:28:23 | BlaXpirit | i'd rather do that the |
| 21:28:24 | BlaXpirit | n |
| 21:31:00 | Araq | BlaXpirit: well yes, I'm talking about combining characters |
| 21:32:23 | Varriount | onionhammer: How well does the suggestion part of NimLime work so far? |
| 21:32:34 | Araq | cause you need to take these into account for most things I can think of |
| 21:32:52 | emilsp-home | I am guessing nim doesn't have any libraries for reading from id3/vorbis tags ? |
| 21:33:00 | fowl | def-, are math things in a different lib in haiku |
| 21:33:31 | fowl | emilsp-home, you can use any c library |
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| 21:33:48 | def- | fowl: i guess you just don't need -lm |
| 21:33:55 | Araq | and when you do, it's of variable length. no FUD here. |
| 21:34:05 | flaviu | Am I at least guaranteed that concatenating valid unicode strings will produce a valid unicode string? |
| 21:35:43 | fowl | emilsp-home, btw you asked before what i used the neural networks for, i havent used them yet but i want to point them at stock market data or something see if i can get rich |
| 21:36:19 | def- | flaviu: i would assume so |
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| 21:37:41 | Araq | flaviu: yeah, quite sure but this hold for utf-32, utf-16, utf-8. utf-32 has no advantage for concat |
| 21:39:27 | BlaXpirit | has no advantage for valid strings, yes |
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| 21:48:07 | fowl | onionhammer, i want to add inheritance to clibpp, how should it look? class(X, parent: Y)? X of Y could be handled |
| 21:49:03 | BlaXpirit | what will happen to multiple inheritance? |
| 21:49:12 | BlaXpirit | fowl, do you think SFML can be wrapped directly now? |
| 21:49:30 | fowl | i think so BlaXpirit |
| 21:49:33 | BlaXpirit | :s |
| 21:49:40 | fowl | i have a workaround for multiple inheritance |
| 21:49:58 | fowl | type Drawable = CircleShape | RectangleShape #| ... |
| 21:49:58 | fowl | proc setFillColor* (this:Drawable; color:Color) {.importcpp,header:graphics_h.} |
| 21:50:50 | BlaXpirit | don't forget inheriting from drawable |
| 21:51:16 | BlaXpirit | to me it really seems like this should be a typeclass |
| 21:51:27 | fowl | that is a typeclass |
| 21:51:38 | BlaXpirit | you can't make your own drawable |
| 21:51:50 | BlaXpirit | i mean typeclass like = generic stuff |
| 21:52:58 | fowl | ill have to look at the hierarchy to see how it even works |
| 21:53:48 | BlaXpirit | drawable is a class that has virtual function draw |
| 21:54:01 | BlaXpirit | so it's like an interface |
| 21:54:04 | BlaXpirit | so it's like a typeclass |
| 21:54:12 | Araq | bzzzt. wrong. |
| 21:55:02 | fowl | in c would (Drawable)(x).draw(...) invoke the virtual function then? |
| 21:55:33 | BlaXpirit | I don't understand |
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| 21:55:52 | BlaXpirit | are you talking about CSFML? |
| 21:55:57 | fowl | no |
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| 22:07:58 | onionhammer | fowl ill have to think for a bit... |
| 22:09:36 | onionhammer | Varriount it needs more testing.. sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt |
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| 22:13:47 | onionhammer | fowl probably "of" |
| 22:13:50 | onionhammer | instead of "parent" |
| 22:14:04 | onionhammer | class(X, of: Y) |
| 22:14:22 | fowl | thats not possible since of is a keyword |
| 22:14:28 | onionhammer | u sure? |
| 22:15:04 | Araq | flaviu's class macro solved that |
| 22:15:19 | fowl | onionhammer, i was recommending "X of Y" |
| 22:15:56 | onionhammer | mm? |
| 22:17:07 | fowl | class(X of Y) |
| 22:17:27 | onionhammer | ah, if that works thats better |
| 22:21:06 | fowl | Araq, what was his solution |
| 22:21:43 | Araq | class Animal of RootObj: |
| 22:21:44 | Araq | var name: string |
| 22:21:46 | Araq | method vocalize: string = "..." |
| 22:22:24 | fowl | Araq, thats what this is except its for c++ |
| 22:22:59 | fowl | plus i wrote that oop macro lol |
| 22:23:53 | Araq | sorry I'm not really paying attention. I'm fixing bugs |
| 22:24:13 | fowl | good dont pay attention |
| 22:24:40 | fowl | bbl |
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