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00:24:56VarriountAraq: Pong
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00:46:01DiffuseStormAre seq's elements contiguous in memory?
00:51:55VarriountDiffuseStorm: Yes.
00:52:50VarriountDiffuseStorm: A sequence is analagous to a vector in c++ - it's an array that is resized when space is needed.
00:53:56DiffuseStormok cool, enlarged by 1.4 or 2 or? :) Not that it matters.
00:55:23Varriount1.5 I believe
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03:28:44imjoenim on frontpage of HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8282273
03:34:57Triplefoxgo nim \o/
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05:21:19boydgreenfieldfyi in case nobody has seen it – Nimrod article on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8282273
05:28:14filwitsomeone else just posted the link to it. nice to see :)
05:39:00VarriountI couldn't read it for fear of negativity. Is it good or bad?
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05:46:40NimBotnimrod-code/csources bigbreak dede2c0 Araq [+0 ±37 -0]: rebuilt C sources
05:46:40NimBotnimrod-code/csources bigbreak 96adf91 Araq [+0 ±3 -0]: changed back exename
05:46:40NimBotnimrod-code/csources bigbreak ae68977 Araq [+69 ±0 -0]: added missing files
05:46:40NimBotnimrod-code/csources bigbreak 11b85b9 Araq [+0 ±21 -0]: attempt to make the C sources work again
05:46:40NimBot2 more commits.
05:46:43vegaimostly good. He didn't like that "echo" is used, reminds him of shell languages and PHP I guess
05:46:58vegaiand other naming issues
05:47:18VarriountDon't worry about csource messages - I'm trying to fix up the repo.
05:52:41boydgreenfieldVarriount: The HN comments are not very substantative at the moment – one positive comment, and then some random “language proliferation” obversations, and then a kind of distracting sub-thread from some nimrod proponent about the wikipedia page getting deleted.
05:53:27boydgreenfieldThe article itself is quite positive, save for a few (pretty reasonable) preferences/critiques re: maturity, echo vs. print, and some of the tooling
05:55:07Varriountboydgreenfield: Ah, that I can handle. As long as it's not unsubstantiative criticism, I'm ok.
05:55:33vegaihm, freebsd's still carrying nimrod-0.9.2 :-|
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10:19:43Shoozzahttp://btw.the.nim-lang.org.and.nimrod-lang.org.domain.allows.you.to.say.that.d.and.rust.are.better.than.nimrod-lang.org.aka.nim-lang.org/
10:20:59EXetoC?
10:44:34ShoozzaEXetoC, tried to visit http://forum.nim-lang.org/ when i noticed this.
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10:56:13EXetoCno idea what that's supposed to mean
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10:57:39dom96I guess he means that no matter what subdomain you type it redirects to nim-lang.org
11:02:53EXetoCI was just trying to find a meaning of that subdomain
11:03:02EXetoCbjz: why did the front fall off?
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11:09:06DiffuseStormWhat does {.pragma: ...} and {.passl ...} do?
11:10:12dom96the former creates a new pragma IIRC
11:10:20dom96the latter passes arguments to the linker
11:11:07DiffuseStormSo what is this one doing: {.pragma: libx11c, cdecl, dynlib: libX11.}
11:11:36DiffuseStormlibx11c is the name of the pragma, containing the rest?
11:14:15EXetoCbasically
11:15:46EXetoCbut you can just apply a pragma to all symbols between push/pop, in which case you might not need such a shortcut
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11:24:59DiffuseStormThe manual gives this example: {.pragma myInject: inject.} - but it looks very different. The colon is in a different place.
11:25:47EXetoCwhere does pragma: appear?
11:25:58DiffuseStormhttps://github.com/nimrod-code/x11/blob/master/src/x11pragma.nim
11:26:39DiffuseStormWhich is then used like this: function decl{.libx11.} - here: https://github.com/nimrod-code/x11/blob/master/src/xlib.nim
11:29:15EXetoCthat doesn't appear to work
11:31:19DiffuseStormIt's in the list of official packages on the website. But maybe it's wrong/ out of date
11:32:19DiffuseStormIs the grammar in the manual correct? I should learn that.
11:32:24bjzEXetoC: huh?
11:41:00EXetoCbjz: you don̈́'t watch Clark and Dawe?
11:41:15EXetoCDiffuseStorm: it seems I can't get anything to work. I don't know what's going on
11:50:13Araq_DiffuseStorm: commas are optional in pragmas so that {.push foo:bar.} works as opposed to {.push, foo: bar.}
11:50:24Araq_*works like
11:50:45Araq_which is ugly since the comma doesn't make sense for 'push'
11:51:34Araq_in retrospect we should perhaps have made 'push' a pragma keyword, but pragma keywords do not exist
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11:56:55bjzEXetoC: no, I used to
11:57:06bjzEXetoC: don't watch much telly anymore
11:57:10EXetoCnow it works. I applied it in the wrong place, and got a cryptic error message
11:57:30bjzEXetoC: they were cut from the 7:30 report though right?
11:58:18EXetoCI just know that they have their own youtube channel
11:59:12EXetoCI'm not Australian and I never watch TV either
12:24:27bjzorly!
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12:25:45bjzI wouldn't have thought non-aussies would have found their stuff interesting - perhaps they do more general stuff (not just australian political satire)
12:26:42EXetoCI don't get all of what they're saying, but they did bring up the financial crisis for example
12:27:07bjzit's pretty smart stuff
12:27:23bjzbit hard if you don't always have the context though
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12:42:02EXetoCyeah
12:42:10EXetoCbjz: have you written any application in Rust yet?
12:57:32dom96Varriount: ping
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13:15:59EXetoC+s
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13:20:29Araq_hi uber welcome
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13:21:43EXetoCcan't expand varargs[expr] into a series of arguments, right? without using a macro that is
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13:22:31Araq_EXetoC: yeah
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14:16:31DiffuseStormIs bitwise or simply "or"?
14:16:39Araq_yes
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14:33:50flaviu__Can someone pop into www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2fsm4u/experiments_with_nimrod/ and mention that while strfmt is a great library, it isn't part of the stdlib like the post author says
14:34:02flaviu__I can't do it myself right now
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14:54:43dom96hello hsuh
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15:20:30willwillsonkind of minor, but on bigbreak, "koch install" installs a nimrod.cfg instead of nim.cfg. I think this is defined in compiler/nim.ini? This also seems to reference files that have since been removed such as c2nim.
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15:24:35willwillsonthis line: {.deprecated: [fileHandle: getFileHandle].}, in system.nim also gives me a redefinition of identifer fileHandle error.
15:29:19willwillsonactually that might have been from when I didn't have a nim.cfg
15:34:48Araq_willwillson: bigbreak requires --cs:partial but it looks like your config got screwed up
15:36:31willwillsonyeah, I found out it was because of the missing nim.cfg (koch install installed nimrod.cfg)
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15:36:58DiffuseStormwow my libGL.so was linked to libGL.so.1.2.0 which I don't even have. I swear these linux shared libraries are more trouble than they are worth.
15:37:28DiffuseStormno clue how that happened as I just use package management..
15:37:54DiffuseStormkind of unrelated, but I was trying out the opengl.nim wrapper
15:38:30flaviu__DiffuseStorm: As an Arch Linux user, I'm obligated to tell you to use Arch. You'll become a l33t hazkor if you do!
15:38:33DiffuseStormerr actually glx is what tried to load libGL.so
15:38:47DiffuseStormflaviu_: I'm on Fedora currently. I may try Arch
15:39:04DiffuseStorml33t hazkor FTW!
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15:39:42NimBotnimrod-code/Aporia master 9161216 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: Fix extra newlines after copying issues on Windows.
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16:01:21DiffuseStormI'm getting a "could not import: ..." originating from a importc pragma. How does importc work?
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16:04:45Araq_DiffuseStorm: it comes from a dynlib pragma
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16:16:55Araq_DiffuseStorm: often these can be resolved with --deadcodeElim:on
16:18:31perturbationflaviu/Diffuse: s/Arch/Gentoo/ ;)
16:19:05perturbationnot really... these days I'm bored and run a variant of Debian stable, though my out-of-date glibc causes some problems occasionally
16:19:05dom96Hrm, I should try Gentoo.
16:19:23EXetoCteh love for compiling
16:21:16flaviu__perturbation, dom96: http://funroll-loops.teurasporsaat.org/
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16:25:13perturbationyeah yeah -fomg-optimized and all that... I liked it for how much control I had over the setup. I stopped when I didn't have time to fix stuff breaking every two weeks.
16:29:12dom96Are there any distros which keep the 'critical' packages frozen and allow you to update non-critical packages to the latest version available?
16:29:26dom96Hrm, I guess Ubuntu allows that with PPAs.
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16:39:47perturbationdom96: you can also do that (to some degree) with debian and apt-pinning. I think that I'm eventually just going to upgrade to testing/unstable.
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17:32:11flaviu__dom96: Yes, arch linux
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17:34:31flaviu__dom96: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages#How_do_I_stop_pacman_from_upgrading_downgraded_packages
17:35:46dom96flaviu__: That requires me to specify explicitly which packages should be kept frozen.
17:35:50dom96No thanks.
17:36:17flaviu__dom96: wat?
17:36:34flaviu__Isn't that basically a description of your goal?
17:37:13Araqflaviu__: he's after a linux that doesn't keep breaking
17:37:23dom96precisely
17:38:08dom96I now don't think that is achievable.
17:39:08flaviu__Ah, ok. Easy then. Never run pacman -Syu
17:39:49EXetoCthat's it? wow
17:39:57Araqflaviu__: that's what I did until the openssl bug appeared
17:40:05flaviu__Wanna update firefox? pacman -Sy; pacman -S firefox
17:40:29Araqthen I tried to update, failed, reinstalled everything
17:40:57Araqand now nothing works but I stopped caring
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17:42:26reactormonkAraq, nixos for you?
17:42:52EXetoCI will just do a little googling and then it's usually resolved after a couple of minutes
17:45:53dom96The problem is that there is always something that doesn't work quite right.
17:46:08dom96Then I update and they fix it, but introduce a different bug.
17:46:13dom96Perhaps they need a better testing suite.
17:47:12Araqreactormonk: perhaps, but I'm not yet convinced a "declarative" approach is even remotely related to linux's problems
17:48:24AraqEXetoC: yeah but you only do that for so many years until you're too tired
17:49:36dom96But that's why I think that a distro which keeps some critical packages frozen may work.
17:49:42dom96Because that is kind of how Windows works.
17:51:38EXetoCAraq: well I barely spend any time on these things
17:51:54EXetoCdom96: how do you define that?
17:52:39dom96EXetoC: which packages are critical and which are not?
17:53:59dom96it's definitely tough to do
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18:10:35reactormonkAraq, coding is all about legacy code.
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18:13:15flaviu__dom96: I have no idea how you always have issues with linux, but have no issues with nim
18:13:52flaviu__I've had a single major issue recently, and then only because of my unusual use of two X sessions at the same time
18:14:21flaviu__lol, windows, stable?
18:14:56flaviu__All I use it for is occasional gaming, and it already runs at a crawl...
18:16:29flaviu__Araq: I don't think heartbleed affects you. You aren't running a publicly-facing server
18:17:20flaviu__no need to update. Although openssl does have a thousand more major bugs that may effect you. IIRC firefox uses its own SSL lib though
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18:19:03Araqflaviu__: dom96 has plenty of issues with Nim. we all have.
18:25:36Araqbut here, have some facts: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
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18:31:41imjoeLinux works for me. That article is Bullocks! ;-) seriously i've been on linux laptop as my only computer for over a year and it's OK. not great, but better than i had with windows, and osx? forget it, i can't get used to its UI.
18:34:14Araqimjoe: power management on laptops is really bad on linux, IME
18:34:35flaviu__Araq: Sure, happy to respond to that. I agree video drivers aren't ideal, they're getting ther
18:34:42flaviu__Audio situation is shit
18:35:02flaviu__My experience with printers has been good though
18:35:08imjoeyeah could be, i'm always plugged in.
18:35:18flaviu__dunno about power management, I desktop
18:35:49flaviu__Xorg is bad, but Wayland is coming along well
18:36:01flaviu__Flash is deprecated
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18:40:14flaviu__No issues with fonts here, and I think the whole package management issue is stupid, and I don't see the lack of GUI apps as a negative for linux. Different compilers are an issue? only for people who can't avoid UB
18:43:00flaviu__Python has a built-in web server for file sharing. Unstable kernel ABIs are hell for closed source software, and that is a good thing.
18:43:44flaviu__I can't comment on big DEs, except to say that i3 has had exactly one bug in my experience, and that was already fixed in git. i3 is pretty awesome.
18:44:21flaviu__lol, he claims rapid changes are bad
18:46:31Araqhe also claims there is 255 char maxlength limit for filenames
18:46:43Araqwhich I really doubt exists
18:46:55Araqbut overall he makes some good points
18:47:43flaviu__Araq: That seems to be correct
18:48:01flaviu__Although it doesn't do worse than windows...
18:48:21Araqinteresting
18:48:31flaviu__There isn't any path limit, unlike windows
18:49:16Araqhaving seen recently never ending directory hiearchies (java project) I came to the conclusion that a max path limit is a *feature*
18:49:29Araq;-)
18:49:57flaviu__lol
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20:00:41Trixar_zaAraq: what's this about linux?
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20:02:24Trixar_zaAlso that dude really needs to read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
20:07:11Shoozzaabout the max path limit http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247%28VS.85%29.aspx#maxpath
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20:16:10DiffuseStormHere is a beautiful linux problem (I'm a bit late): Fedora 20 does not come with graphics drivers from nvidia. Only open source ones which I tested to be at least 90% slower for my specific test. It is possible to download from this unofficial repository that includes everything Fedora doesn't want to include, problem is their drivers are a year late. So if I want up to date graphics drivers I'll have to manually install from nvidia,
20:16:10DiffuseStorm which is actually very hard and scary for a normal person (I can manage it), and then have to redo it with every os upgrade. The result: I never update my operating system.
20:16:53Demoswelcome to graphics on linux, enjoy
20:17:23Demosintel is not so bad, but intel GPUs are pretty slow in the grand scheme of things
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20:24:12Araqhi jszymanski welcome
20:24:22jszymanskihi
20:30:55AraqDiffuseStorm: did you solve your importc problem?
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20:34:12Trixar_zaDemos: Not really. Badly configured sometimes, but generally not as bad. That's why the integrated Intel modding scene is so surprisingly active.
20:34:33EXetoCDiffuseStorm: that's fedora fr you
20:34:49EXetoCsure that hardware acceleration is used?
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20:35:53DiffuseStormAraq: yes your solution worked. But what does importc do and is static linking with a c library possible?
20:36:30willwillsonall these people installing binary blobs on their GNU system makes me sad :(
20:36:37DiffuseStormEXetoC: I did verify that I had open source drivers installed. If they were off somehow I don't know, but probably not.
20:37:12AraqDiffuseStorm: 'importc' only affects name mangling really. then in addition to 'importc' you either use 'header' or 'dynlib'. Static linking is also possible.
20:37:22DiffuseStormwillwillson: using open source drivers for gpu's is ridiculous. I'm sorry. NVIDIA isn't going to release some great specs for driver writers to use so the open source alternative is always years behind and stupid slow.
20:37:59Trixar_zaDemos: Although I might have to confess something... http://trixarian.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=2
20:38:04Araqhow to do that depends, but usually you use something like --dynlibOverride:opengl --passL:"-lopengl"
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20:38:28Mat3hello
20:38:40Trixar_zaHi Mat3
20:38:55Mat3hi Trixar_za
20:39:39EXetoCDiffuseStorm: hardware acceleration must be enabled by the user for some drivers
20:40:48EXetoCapparently the performance is not that far off in some cases, but it does indeed take a long time to develop them
20:41:49DiffuseStormyes that's true I've seen some stats and they can be pretty fast or even as fast as the native, but the OpenGL version they support is really old
20:42:33EXetoCup to about 3.3 I think
20:42:46willwillsonDiffuseStorm: do you not value your freedom over a bit of extra performance?
20:44:40Araqping Varriount_
20:46:11DiffuseStormwillwillson: It's NVIDIA efficiently and expertly developing drivers for hardware they know in and out vs having some poor bloke try to reverse engineer nvidias hardware, which as you can imagine is a lot less efficient. I don't see how I'm losing freedom over my choice.
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20:48:34Araqbtw does anybody here know how "git cherrypick" works?
20:49:21willwillsonthe software is controlling you; you should be controlling the software: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
20:49:57DiffuseStormoh no not the gnu blokes with their abhorrent licenses
20:50:06Trixar_zaI think I like this author
20:50:24Trixar_zaHe included a TL;DR summary
20:54:33imjoeAraq: I've never used it, but this explanation seems pretty clear: http://sleeplessgeek.blogspot.com/2011/03/using-git-cherry-pick.html
20:56:45Mat3DiffuseStorm: The quality of NVIDIA drivers is somewhat questionable I think
20:57:15imjoehas anyone connected to oracle database using nim? i'm afraid i may need to do that...
20:57:35Araqimjoe: thanks but I tried that and it simply doesn't work at all.
20:57:42DiffuseStormMat3: the quality of gpu hardware is somewhat questionable, the drivers probably have to do endless hacks to cover for the shitty hardware
20:58:15DiffuseStormwell thats just what i heard, but i've had great experience with their drivers
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21:02:35imjoeAraq: I just tried it and it worked for me. I did almost forget to switch to the master branch before doing the git cherry-pick though...
21:03:43Mat3well, there GPU's are at base simply a specialized MIMD design like most other graphic architectures, optimized for a special case of data streaming
21:04:32NimBotAraq/Nimrod bigbreak 952de51 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: Removed async console FDs.
21:04:32NimBotAraq/Nimrod bigbreak 6689fa6 Dominik Picheta [+1 ±2 -0]: Multiple exception idents in except for async. Ref #1487.
21:04:36Mat3I don't think the alternatives are such better designed
21:05:46imjoeAraq: also, I had steve miller band "the joker" playing in the background... "Cause I'm a picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover..." :-)
21:06:11Mat3(I mean graphic oriented special ASIC's)
21:08:48Araqimjoe: well devel and bigbreak diverged too much and now no cherry-picking works anymore
21:10:10Mat3ciao
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21:14:19filwitdom96: Chakra linux is what you're after: http://chakraos.org/home/
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21:15:25filwitalthough I personally have had very few stability issues with Arch (now that I've been on KDE), it's not intended for people who don't want to occasionally fix update-related things, and it's not advertised as such.
21:16:06filwitthat said, the best package-management solution (for any OS) is something like NixOS
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21:17:53Trixar_zaNixOS?
21:19:04Trixar_zaAh - another distro
21:19:07filwitTrixar_za: yeah, it uses the Nix package manager, which is a better design, from what I can tell, in many ways
21:19:16filwithave yet to actually try it tho
21:19:38Trixar_zaI really can't keep up with developments anymore. Is it a remix of something or a from scratch project?
21:20:18filwitscratch
21:20:43filwitit's main benefit is this: https://nixos.org/nix/
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21:21:49filwiti'm not sure Nix is it just yet, but the concept is really great. It's kinda like how babel works (where the main "repo list" is just a url tree stored on github anyone can make PRs agains)
21:23:21imjoewaiting for NimOS ;-)
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21:26:01filwitTrixar_za: if I understand it correctly, because all software is duplicated (and garbage collected) the dependencies entirely dependent on a core repo, and technically anyone can host their own binaries (sorta like a sane version of Windows "click installer" system).
21:26:18filwitdont** entirely depend
21:27:31Trixar_zaActually that would work awesomely - anybody could contribute packages and use github to do it
21:27:37filwitit also means that updating the system will never cause problems with running software, and multiple package versions can nicely coexist.
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21:29:28filwitTrixar_za: exactly my thoughts as well... the main reason no one contributes to any one linux distro is because there are so many.. but if you could simply define url deps and host your own binaries, then there would be less a need for each distro's maintainers (and indeed, less of a distinction between "distros" in general)
21:30:26filwitof course, people will still have to agree on a "common core", but everything beyond the core stack is entirely up to third party software.
21:31:04Trixar_zaAs long as packaging the package is straight forward, anybody would be able to do it.
21:31:45Trixar_zaThat's actually one of SliTaz's strengths - the package packaging is really easy and it can convert other packages over to the same format.
21:32:26filwityep. and the best thing: when you update your binary (and package info), technically everyone gets the update (like how Windows updates software individually... only much saner)
21:32:45filwithmm.. never heard of CliTaz
21:32:50filwitSliTaz*
21:33:48Trixar_zaIt's a Micro-Linux distribution mostly made for thin clients and older systems. It boasts that the iso size is about 40MB
21:34:00Trixar_zaWhich expands to about 160MB in RAM
21:34:19filwitcool
21:34:22filwitbut not for me
21:34:50Trixar_zaIt has a few flaws - which is why I wanted (and still want to) rebuild it's base
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22:28:39Araqhi tillzy welcome
22:29:16tillzyHi! thanks!
22:34:22tillzyAnyone have any suggestion on a starter project for learning nimrod?
22:38:37adrusi_Does Nimrod emit ANSI C? I'm interested in seeing if I can pass its C output to sdcc.
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22:48:15Araqadrusi: it should work with sdcc whatever that is
22:51:16Araqtillzy: many people start with nim+SDL to program a game
22:52:55tillzyAraq: that would be great, i am currently looking at the sdl2 bindings, but maby i should instead start with sdl1?
22:53:02Varriount_Although someone has yet to understand the android SDK well enough to wrap that.
22:54:02imjoewow, if you could run nim programs on android, that would be huge!
22:54:51Araqimjoe: er ... don't we have an andriod example in the standard distribution?
22:55:56Varriount_Araq: We have an example which uses the JNI interface, IIRC
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22:58:04VarriountAraq: What we don't have is a *native* Nimrod example, which uses the NDK
22:58:41AraqVarriount: what does that mean? we can't use teh NDK because we have no java codegen, can we?
22:59:07VarriountAraq: The NDK is a C/C++ binding to the java api.
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22:59:31Araqah ok
23:01:27tillzyare there any screencasts explaining the basics of nimrod?
23:03:15tillzyfrom what i can tell (just started reading about it tonight) nimrod looks incredibly powerfull, can't belive i haven't heard about it before
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23:04:28willwillsonhave you tried the written tutorial?
23:04:55willwillsonhttp://nimrod-lang.org/tut1.html
23:05:11dom96This is also nice: https://nimrod-by-example.github.io/
23:06:50tillzyonly just skimmed it, but i will definitely read it more closely
23:07:34tillzythe by-example one is really nice!
23:10:22VarriountAraq: Will the Nimrod repo be moved as well?
23:13:58AraqVarriount: yeah, but we'll release both 0.9.6 and 0.10.0 at the same time, I think
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23:22:45VarriountAraq: Uh... Huh?
23:25:03VarriountAraq: Also, did you need me for something?
23:25:34dom96Varriount: how's that script coming along?
23:26:04Varriountdom96: I didn't get to it yet - the DMV was too hectic, and I wasn't near any power outlets
23:26:13AraqVarriount: nah, I wanted to thank you for fixing csources
23:27:23dom96Araq: is it safe for me to overwrite currException?
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23:27:36Varriountdom96: What do you mean by a powershell script? IIRC, powershell doesn't allow executing unsigned scripts by default.
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23:27:56dom96Araq: hrm, it's not exported so I guess I can't anyway.
23:28:41dom96Araq: I can either detect getCurrentException/..Msg or just set currException in async try statements.
23:29:23dom96Varriount: whatever works. Just create an interactive way to build/install the compiler.
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23:30:03Varriountdom96: What's wrong with the installer?
23:30:06dom96For Windows you could even make a GUI app.
23:30:17dom96it doesn't build the compiler for me.
23:30:23dom96I want the latest from git.
23:30:53dom96Instead of copying and pasting all those commands I want a simple script to do it all for me.
23:31:34Araqwhat's wrong with a batch script?
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23:32:37dom96Araq: what's wrong with answering my question?
23:33:20Araqdom96: I'm not sure what you need to do
23:33:27Araqso I can't answer
23:33:57dom96Araq: I'm transforming try statements in my async procs into some if statements remember?
23:34:16dom96Araq: This means that getCurrentException() won't work.
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23:34:37dom96Araq: I can either transform it too or set system.excpt.currException
23:34:58dom96but meh, it's obvious I should do the former.
23:35:22dom96the latter would be much easier though
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23:41:44DiffuseStormHow do I pass a TaintedString into a function wanting a cstringArray?
23:43:17dom96[tainted.cstring]
23:43:20dom96I guess
23:43:40Araqdom96: nah setting .currException is fine
23:43:42dom96hrm, well
23:43:50dom96actually that won't work
23:43:56Araqyou can even export the field, I don't mind
23:44:34dom96Araq: ok. Is it nil when there is no exception?
23:45:21Araqyes
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23:46:48dom96Araq: maybe it would make more sense to add setCurrentException?
23:49:45Onionhammeranyone tried CLion yet?
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23:51:21Onionhammerwho's going to give writing a nimrod plugin for it a shot :P
23:52:54AraqDiffuseStorm: there is system.allocCstringArray iirc
23:53:22Araqdom96: it's dangerous either way and for experts only
23:54:04dom96yes, i'll create the proc
23:54:06Araqa setter doesn't make it any better, but I guess it's nice for consistency
23:55:12dom96yeah