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| 00:18:37 | skrylar | anyone toyed with peaches.io |
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| 00:18:57 | skrylar | its supposed to be a documentation server although i'm not yet convinced that its better than just running hugo or some other markdown processor |
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| 01:15:39 | subsetpark | skrylar: considering they currently have django debug toolbar enabled in production, i'd say they're not quite ready for primetime |
| 01:15:58 | skrylar | bleh. thats the wrong peaches |
| 01:16:27 | skrylar | https://peachdocs.org/ |
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| 01:18:00 | subsetpark | better :) |
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| 01:32:19 | subsetpark | dom96 (or anybody) - can I use either nimble or choosenim to install nimble@#head ? |
| 01:33:13 | mahmudov | how can we convert a array to string ? |
| 01:33:34 | skrylar | `join`? |
| 01:37:45 | mahmudov | client.sendLine(pack(join("[0,1,";$name;",";$param;"]"))) |
| 01:38:18 | mahmudov | i tried this way but occurs Error: ')' expected |
| 01:38:33 | mahmudov | name=sum param=[1,2] |
| 01:38:39 | mahmudov | name="sum" param=[1,2] |
| 01:39:49 | subsetpark | mahmudov: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vZ3GDDDa/ |
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| 01:46:08 | mahmudov | i want to do this: |
| 01:46:19 | mahmudov | [0, 1, b'sum', [1, 2]] |
| 01:46:50 | subsetpark | i'm afraid i don't follow |
| 01:47:07 | subsetpark | you want that whole thing as a string? |
| 01:48:04 | mahmudov | yes |
| 01:48:12 | mahmudov | name="sum" param=[1,2] |
| 01:48:27 | mahmudov | also at start will be 0,1 |
| 01:48:47 | mahmudov | [0, 1, b'sum', [1, 2]] |
| 01:51:07 | mahmudov | or array |
| 01:51:21 | mahmudov | i want to convert this form. |
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| 01:58:12 | subsetpark | ok, so i think you're saying you have some string "[0, 1, b\'$1\', $2]" - and you want to interpolate "sum" and "[1,2]" into placeholders 1 and 2 |
| 01:58:46 | mahmudov | yes like this |
| 01:58:49 | subsetpark | but in this case the first argument is the literal string "sum" but the second argument is an array containing the literal 1 and the literal 2 |
| 01:58:57 | mahmudov | yeb |
| 01:59:15 | mahmudov | all of them will be concat |
| 01:59:19 | mahmudov | join* |
| 02:00:04 | subsetpark | so in that case you could say myPlaceHolderString % [name, repr(param)] |
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| 02:06:31 | subsetpark | repr(param) would give you "[1, 2]" - i suppose you could then do .replace(" ", "") if you wanted that exact form |
| 02:08:16 | mahmudov | cant we use more eeasy way: " [0, 1,"+ $name+"," +$param+"]" |
| 02:08:21 | mahmudov | like this :) ? |
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| 02:25:51 | mahmudov | i found for string convert: |
| 02:25:53 | mahmudov | "[0,1," & name & ",[" & param & "]]" |
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| 02:26:53 | mahmudov | if i have string like this how can i convert to array ? |
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| 03:25:53 | mahmudov | can we define like this array? |
| 03:26:25 | mahmudov | ThreedifferentType = array[3, int,int,string] ? |
| 03:26:38 | mahmudov | [1,2,"funcA"] |
| 03:26:40 | mahmudov | ? |
| 03:56:45 | def-pri-pub | Don't think so |
| 03:57:05 | def-pri-pub | Are you trying to make an array that store variant datatypes? |
| 03:57:57 | def-pri-pub | You could make a variant like this for the array: https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-object-variants |
| 04:01:21 | mahmudov | var child: tuple[ax: int, bx: int , cx: string , dx: array] |
| 04:01:40 | mahmudov | but i cant success at last element type |
| 04:02:13 | mahmudov | dx: array should be any array cuz it can be [1,2] or ["a","b","c"] |
| 04:02:35 | mahmudov | my tuple type works but last type fails |
| 04:03:29 | mahmudov | i think no need types-object-variants to me . |
| 04:05:11 | def-pri-pub | I think that's because you haven't given that array a type |
| 04:05:51 | def-pri-pub | First line: https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-array-and-sequence-types |
| 04:06:21 | def-pri-pub | "Arrays are a homogeneous type, meaning that each element in the array has the sampe type." |
| 04:07:09 | def-pri-pub | You also might want to try using a `seq` instead. They're a bit more flexable. Unless you're `dx` is going to be of a fixed lenght |
| 04:07:24 | mahmudov | cant we define at runtime |
| 04:07:29 | mahmudov | of a array type |
| 04:07:58 | def-pri-pub | Nope. |
| 04:08:10 | mahmudov | but i dont know the last parameter |
| 04:08:11 | def-pri-pub | arrays/seqs need to be of a fixed type |
| 04:08:22 | mahmudov | so what should i use? |
| 04:08:31 | def-pri-pub | But you can set that array's type to be of that varaint I linked |
| 04:08:42 | mahmudov | types-object-variants ? |
| 04:08:57 | def-pri-pub | yeah |
| 04:09:00 | def-pri-pub | take a look at that |
| 04:09:09 | def-pri-pub | Do you know what a variant is in general? |
| 04:09:23 | mahmudov | no |
| 04:09:27 | def-pri-pub | Ah, okay |
| 04:09:48 | def-pri-pub | Say I've got some data that i want to put somewhere |
| 04:09:56 | def-pri-pub | that data could be either of type `int` or type `string` |
| 04:10:06 | mahmudov | yeb, |
| 04:10:17 | def-pri-pub | The Variant is a way of putting those two differnt types into the same place |
| 04:10:29 | def-pri-pub | Have you done python before? How about C or C++? |
| 04:10:45 | mahmudov | i am python coding |
| 04:10:49 | def-pri-pub | okay |
| 04:10:57 | def-pri-pub | Python is a very loosly typed language |
| 04:11:02 | def-pri-pub | so that means you can do something like: |
| 04:11:06 | mahmudov | nim limits typing |
| 04:11:12 | def-pri-pub | l = [1, 2, "kevin bacon"\ |
| 04:11:15 | mahmudov | like dynamically? |
| 04:11:16 | def-pri-pub | l = [1, 2, "kevin bacon"] * |
| 04:11:24 | def-pri-pub | Yeah, nim isn't a dynamic language |
| 04:11:27 | def-pri-pub | Nim is static |
| 04:11:49 | def-pri-pub | but if we wanted to shove both integers and strings into the same list/array/sequence, in Nim, we can't do that |
| 04:11:52 | def-pri-pub | But there is a trick |
| 04:12:00 | def-pri-pub | We can have that list store a Variant type! |
| 04:12:10 | mahmudov | more clear, |
| 04:12:18 | def-pri-pub | And the Variant can be either a string or an integer |
| 04:12:47 | def-pri-pub | Using a Qt/C++ example, there is the QVaraint class: |
| 04:12:48 | def-pri-pub | http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qvariant.html |
| 04:13:15 | def-pri-pub | It allows you to shove many differnt datatypes into one space, then pass it around |
| 04:13:32 | mahmudov | at runtime? |
| 04:13:32 | def-pri-pub | So IIRC, Nim doesn't have a built in Variant type |
| 04:13:39 | def-pri-pub | Yeah, that works at runtime |
| 04:13:47 | def-pri-pub | But we can make our own Variant type |
| 04:14:02 | mahmudov | hm cool.namely it based on condition |
| 04:14:06 | def-pri-pub | So if you take a look at this again: |
| 04:14:08 | def-pri-pub | https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#types-object-variants |
| 04:14:24 | mahmudov | ok, am looking.it is more understandable at now :) |
| 04:14:36 | def-pri-pub | Follow that snippet of code there, and have a list/array/seq of `Node`, then you should be good |
| 04:14:57 | def-pri-pub | Have you ever done a statically typed language before? |
| 04:15:00 | mahmudov | lemme |
| 04:15:18 | mahmudov | ten years ago :) |
| 04:15:29 | def-pri-pub | okay |
| 04:15:51 | def-pri-pub | I need to go nighty-night now because I'm tired. I'm sure if you run into any other problem someone else might be able to help out |
| 04:16:04 | mahmudov | ok thnks much,me too :9 |
| 04:16:22 | def-pri-pub | I do want to note that the snippet provided isn't the most flexible Variant type out there. Since right now it only lets you set the value when creating the `Node`, not later |
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| 04:16:44 | def-pri-pub | wait, hold on for a moment. |
| 04:17:02 | mahmudov | , |
| 04:17:11 | def-pri-pub | what we got right here is a nice little Variant implemented for us already: |
| 04:17:12 | def-pri-pub | https://github.com/yglukhov/variant |
| 04:18:13 | def-pri-pub | okay, have fun. Night. |
| 04:18:18 | mahmudov | cool |
| 04:18:22 | mahmudov | rethnk |
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| 08:14:00 | chemist69 | Hi, I have just compile a small console app on Linux and cross-compiled the same app for Windows (with theese flags: --os:windows --cpu:amd64 --gcc.exe:x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc --gcc.linkerexe:x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc), both in release mode. |
| 08:14:06 | chemist69 | I noticed that the two executables are very different in size: 95k for Linux vs. 465k for the Windows version. |
| 08:14:16 | chemist69 | I do not remember this to be the case for earlier versions of Nim, is anybody aware of the possible reason? |
| 08:22:49 | def- | chemist69: You could use https://github.com/google/bloaty to check what's that big |
| 08:23:07 | def- | Ah, that probably has no Windows binary support |
| 08:24:34 | chemist69 | Ah, ok, interesting project nonetheless, thanks. |
| 08:25:45 | def- | Did you try writing -d:release as the last command line argument? |
| 08:25:53 | def- | sometimes options overwrite each other |
| 08:26:06 | chemist69 | let me try that... |
| 08:27:55 | chemist69 | no, that didn't change the size |
| 08:28:36 | def- | x86_64-w64-mingw32-size -A |
| 08:28:46 | def- | versus size -A for linux binary |
| 08:28:57 | chemist69 | if s.o. else wants to try, this is the app: https://github.com/apahl/nim_labtools/blob/master/labtools/split_csv.nim |
| 08:28:58 | def- | from what I can tell the windows build has debug info in it |
| 08:29:08 | def- | I have it reproduced with just 'echo "Hello World"' |
| 08:29:21 | chemist69 | Ok. |
| 08:29:22 | def- | not sure why -d:release doesn't remove debug info for mingw |
| 08:29:46 | def- | as a workaround you can x86_64-w64-mingw32-strip -s |
| 08:30:38 | chemist69 | def-: nice one, thanks, it's now down to 85k. |
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| 08:34:31 | def- | What happened to the nim compile time btw? |
| 08:34:57 | def- | Seems really long now, especially with -d:release |
| 08:35:11 | def- | 8 seconds for "hello world" |
| 08:36:01 | chemist69 | def-: do you think I should file an issue for cross compilation not honoring release flag? |
| 08:36:33 | def- | I'm not sure yet what's going on exactly |
| 08:36:43 | chemist69 | btw, have you updated to the latest devel? I think compile times improved again. |
| 08:37:11 | euantor | def-: The compile time issue should be fixed in head I believe. SOmething about empty loops |
| 08:37:33 | euantor | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/commit/153441db1da722c0fb5c210a09d9a83a5d1b9656 |
| 08:38:37 | couven92 | def-, update the repo? There was an issue with the nim compiler that Araq fixed recently |
| 08:38:47 | couven92 | to speed up compile time |
| 08:38:58 | def- | yes, updated. still slow |
| 08:39:03 | couven92 | hmm... |
| 08:39:18 | def- | maybe it's my gcc version doing more optimizations now |
| 08:40:16 | def- | clang is a bit faster, but 3 seconds for hello world seems long to me |
| 08:43:45 | def- | system module seems to be taking much longer. doesn't matter much for bigger programs, on small ones you notice |
| 08:45:14 | def- | chemist69: not a bug in Nim, MinGW includes debugging information in its libraries, so you have to strip them after the build: http://www.mingw.org/wiki/large_executables |
| 08:45:42 | def- | We could pass -s when linking using mingw |
| 08:46:13 | def- | --gcc.options.linker=-s |
| 08:49:34 | chemist69 | great, thanks for investigating this. |
| 08:53:06 | def- | system module C compile times: -O0: 2.3 s, -O1: 2.9 s, -O2: 3.5 s, -O3: 6.2 s |
| 08:59:49 | def- | nothing specific seems to be the cause, it's just big. maybe dead code elimination isn't trimming it down anymore |
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| 09:18:31 | FromGitter | <timmyjose> Hey folks, working through Dominik Picheta's excellent book, "Nim in Action". Just curious - if I want to interface Nim with Java, say write a module in Nim and then load that using Java, I would have to simply bundle the compiled c code into a lib and load with JNI/JNA into Java. Is this the idiomatic way? |
| 09:20:07 | FromGitter | <zetashift> @timmyjose not sure if it's the idiomatic way, but maybe this can help you: https://github.com/vegansk/jnim |
| 09:20:37 | FromGitter | <timmyjose> @zetashift Thanks for that! Looks very interesting |
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| 09:31:49 | dom96|w | yglukhov maybe you'd be able to help timmyjose out? |
| 09:32:32 | dom96|w | timmyjose: btw thanks for buying my book (and calling it excellent) :) |
| 09:35:07 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> @timmyjose I think jnim wouldn't help you if you want to use Nim from Java. It helps if you want to use Java from nim :) |
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| 09:37:07 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/examples/cross_calculator/android/src/com/github/nimrod/crosscalculator/CrossCalculator.java ⏎ ⏎ this can help you with simple java integration |
| 09:37:16 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> it's an example for android, but it should work for PC too |
| 09:39:11 | FromGitter | <timmyjose> @TiberiumN Thank you for the link! I am just a noob in Nim right now, but calling Nim from Java would be a very viable use case for me, and would help showcase it to my teammates. I will check it out. Thank you! |
| 09:39:38 | FromGitter | <timmyjose> @dom96 I love the book so far. Thank you for putting in the effort! :-) |
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| 09:43:34 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> @dom96 I don't know where nim is 0.12.0 - https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/6221#issuecomment-321693802 |
| 09:44:01 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> well it seems that ubuntu Xenial has only 0.12.0 |
| 09:44:08 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> but it's the maintainer problem sadly |
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| 10:02:16 | yglukhov | timmyjose, you just define functions like you would in C, and call them from java, just make sure nim GC is properly initialized. Also jnim contains an experimental module that allows "subclassing" java insterfaces from within nim. |
| 10:03:11 | yglukhov | so feedback is welcome =) |
| 10:05:37 | dom96|w | Ubuntu's packages are always far behind. This works well for established software but not for bleeding edge stuff like Nim. |
| 10:09:07 | Tiberium | strange that Debian has more recent versions of Nim than Ubuntu xD |
| 10:24:21 | Tiberium | hmm |
| 10:24:40 | Tiberium | should I report a C compiler error with clang++ and CPP backend (issue with OpenSSL wrapper)? |
| 10:28:04 | Tiberium | https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/6233 |
| 10:30:23 | Tiberium | I discovered this issue by accident (just wanted to test cpp backend for my small library) |
| 10:32:32 | couven92 | I have `--passC:"compiiler option"` in my nim.cfg. Why does `get("passC")` return an empty string in nimscript? |
| 10:33:34 | couven92 | when running `nim e myNims.nims` nim even states that it used the config file with the `--passC` line |
| 10:40:04 | Jipok[m] | Are there people who are versed in nimx? How to output a bitmap on the form? |
| 10:40:16 | Jipok[m] | I used SelfContainedImage.new().initWithBitmap(addr(bitmap[0]), imgW, imgH, 3) |
| 10:40:30 | Jipok[m] | But initWithBitmap does not work when compiled in js |
| 10:41:07 | Tiberium | Jipok[m], you can ask yglukhov |
| 10:41:16 | Tiberium | maybe :) |
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| 10:49:54 | couven92 | no ideas? I really can't see why this is not working? |
| 10:50:45 | dom96|w | bug? |
| 10:51:23 | couven92 | okay so it should work? I'm not doing something totally stupid here? :O |
| 10:51:33 | couven92 | That's good to know! :D |
| 11:07:00 | couven92 | how do I get the platform specific newline string in Nim? |
| 11:07:52 | euantor | I believe that's just `"\n"` |
| 11:08:20 | euantor | `\n` is a platform specific newline sequence - on windows it's `\C\L` |
| 11:08:36 | couven92 | okay |
| 11:10:15 | couven92 | why can't I call `open` in NimScript? |
| 11:10:32 | couven92 | and how do I read the contents of a file in NimScript? |
| 11:11:00 | couven92 | and finally how do I write to a file in NimScript? |
| 11:12:59 | euantor | To read it's `slurp`/ `staticRead`: https://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#slurp,string |
| 11:13:15 | euantor | I don't think you can write a file, but could be wrong |
| 11:13:56 | couven92 | that would be very anoying... :( |
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| 11:17:28 | couven92 | okay, so I'd have to do a nim compile instead... How can I capture Nim compiler options at compile time? |
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| 11:19:42 | couven92 | I need to capture the value of the passC switch at compile time? How do I do that? |
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| 11:34:35 | couven92 | is there no way to get the compiler options as a string or something? |
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| 11:39:42 | euantor | I'm not sure I'm afraid |
| 11:40:49 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#implementation-specific-pragmas-compile-time-define-pragmas |
| 11:41:18 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> besides checking just for their existence |
| 11:41:26 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> that's the only way I know of to retrieve user defined values from compilation |
| 11:41:30 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> couven92 ^ |
| 11:41:30 | couven92 | zacharycarter: that's only for defines though |
| 11:41:41 | couven92 | I need --passC |
| 11:41:57 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I don't think it's possible |
| 11:42:01 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> what is your use case anyway? just ooc |
| 11:42:01 | couven92 | which I don't pass via command-line, but via config |
| 11:42:52 | couven92 | I am using vccexe and I need to creata a custom step where `vccexe --command:midl` i sused instead of `cl` |
| 11:43:12 | couven92 | in order to compile and transform a COM interface defintion to a C header |
| 11:43:16 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> interesting |
| 11:44:11 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I'd check with Araq |
| 11:44:16 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but I think the answer is no |
| 11:44:38 | couven92 | yeah, I'll do that later... I need to grab some food first though... :P |
| 11:44:52 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> enjoy! |
| 11:45:06 | couven92 | well I could always include compiler/nimconf and do exactly as the nim compiler does :P |
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| 14:06:01 | Jipok[m] | Has anyone tried to make a wrapper for a Oryol? |
| 14:06:12 | Jipok[m] | https://github.com/floooh/oryol |
| 14:06:24 | Jipok[m] | Looks interesting |
| 14:07:37 | Jipok[m] | runs on OSX, Linux (incl RaspberryPi), Windows, iOS, Android, emscripten, from the same C++ source |
| 14:08:08 | Jipok[m] | support Nuklear UI, Dear Imgui |
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| 15:08:45 | FromGitter | <timmyjose> @yglukhov Thank you! I will definitely check it out and give any feedback that I might have! :-) |
| 15:11:10 | rauss | The docs say the fsmonitor module will disappear or be packaged separately soon. Is there a recommended alternative yet? |
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| 15:32:12 | dom96|w | rauss: not AFAIK. Search Nimble. Otherwise: a good project for you :) |
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| 15:49:51 | subsetpark | dom96: it seems that (at least when running under choosenim) there's no way to run nimble@#head. if you choosenim #head, it uses nimble .8.6, and if you then nimble install nimble@#head, the binary is broken; it looks for system.nim in the wrong place |
| 16:16:44 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: just noticed your nimx question. are you here? |
| 16:29:23 | subsetpark | BTW yglukhov: https://ghostbin.com/paste/w8h9g |
| 16:29:36 | subsetpark | That's my jester implementation using your threadpool |
| 16:31:01 | yglukhov | subsetpark: nice! so what do you think about it? |
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| 16:31:53 | yglukhov | subsetpark: how about going a bit further and make nim's asynchttpserver multithreaded? =) |
| 16:32:23 | subsetpark | Yeah, that's definitely the next step :) |
| 16:32:30 | subsetpark | I mean... For somebody. Not necessarily for me. |
| 16:32:42 | subsetpark | Especially since it still uses the while(true) approach, which I know you don't like |
| 16:36:34 | Tiberium | well ideally having multithreaded async in general would be very nice (if it would be optional) |
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| 16:54:34 | federico3 | as well as as non-async multithreaded httpserver |
| 17:03:39 | yglukhov | federico3: huh? whats the point? |
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| 17:13:09 | federico3 | yglukhov: handling concurrent requests leveraging all cores |
| 17:15:13 | Jipok[m] | yglukhov: How to output a bitmap on the form? |
| 17:15:20 | yglukhov | federico3: yeah, why not multithreaded + async? |
| 17:15:22 | Jipok[m] | I used SelfContainedImage.new().initWithBitmap(addr(bitmap[0]), imgW, imgH, 3) |
| 17:15:23 | Jipok[m] | But initWithBitmap does not work when compiled in js |
| 17:16:15 | federico3 | yglukhov: I mean both - some users are not writing async code |
| 17:16:32 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: yeah. don't use that. |
| 17:17:08 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: https://github.com/yglukhov/nimx/blob/master/test/sample03_image.nim |
| 17:17:22 | yglukhov | specifically: sharedAssetManager().getAssetAtPath("cat.jpg") do(i: Image, err: string): |
| 17:17:49 | Jipok[m] | saw this |
| 17:18:08 | yglukhov | and? did not like? =) |
| 17:18:27 | Jipok[m] | I generate the image dynamically |
| 17:18:40 | yglukhov | renderToImage? |
| 17:18:53 | yglukhov | or generate to som file and want to open that? |
| 17:19:20 | yglukhov | if some file, then haw is that supposed to work on js? |
| 17:19:25 | yglukhov | *how |
| 17:20:01 | yglukhov | or do you want to load it from url? |
| 17:20:07 | yglukhov | loadImageFromURL("http://gravatar.com/avatar/71b7b08fbc2f989a8246913ac608cca9") do(i: Image): |
| 17:20:18 | * | Jipok[m] sent a long message: Jipok[m]_2017-08-11_17:20:12.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/IHoFdGtfXhxXrLxeNmHaPYrG> |
| 17:20:22 | Jipok[m] | runtime generation |
| 17:20:41 | yglukhov | yeah, but how? in the client code? |
| 17:20:46 | yglukhov | with renderToImage? |
| 17:20:53 | yglukhov | or with canvas? |
| 17:21:14 | yglukhov | or with raw uint8array or smth? |
| 17:21:40 | Jipok[m] | raw uint8array |
| 17:21:46 | yglukhov | ah ok |
| 17:21:54 | yglukhov | let me think =) |
| 17:22:00 | Jipok[m] | But in general any variant of work with pixels |
| 17:22:46 | Jipok[m] | I want to play around with cellular automata |
| 17:24:07 | yglukhov | Jipok[n]: as a quick solution... nimx image may be initialized with js Image object... can you do that? |
| 17:24:29 | yglukhov | but i admit i haven't thought of your use-case =) |
| 17:25:06 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: see initWithJSImage in image.nim |
| 17:25:44 | Jipok[m] | Ideally, I would like a cross-platform solution |
| 17:26:53 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: i know, unfortunately there is none for this use-case, but should be easy to make. contribution is welcome ;) |
| 17:27:17 | yglukhov | i can answer your questions should you have any regarding the implementation |
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| 17:29:58 | Jipok[m] | How difficult is it to implement access to editing pixels? |
| 17:30:10 | Jipok[m] | For all platforms |
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| 17:47:28 | yglukhov | Jipok[m]: access to pixels from nimx Image is counter productive, since nimx.Image internally uses gl textures. but it is easy to create a texture from pixels. so if you're not doing it at 60fps, you should be fine |
| 17:50:46 | dom96 | subsetpark: Indeed. Although you should be able to install nimble@#head yourself. |
| 17:51:13 | subsetpark | I wasn't able to do so without encountering the system.nim error |
| 17:51:18 | dom96 | Try installing `compiler@#head` |
| 17:51:23 | dom96 | before attempting to install Nimble |
| 17:51:35 | subsetpark | I don't think that's it - nimble@#head requires compiler@#head |
| 17:51:40 | dom96 | I know |
| 17:51:44 | dom96 | But you may have a stale version |
| 17:51:47 | subsetpark | ok |
| 17:51:50 | dom96 | Nimble won't upgrade it implicitly |
| 17:52:12 | dom96 | (Which is a bug :)) |
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| 18:06:30 | couven92 | dom96, can you get nimble to run a task in a before block? i.e. create tasks that have dependencies? |
| 18:07:02 | dom96 | not right now |
| 18:07:06 | couven92 | for example, i'd like my nimble to run my docall task on install |
| 18:07:15 | dom96 | this is planned |
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| 18:07:20 | couven92 | cool :) |
| 18:07:21 | dom96 | feel free to create an issue to track it |
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| 19:00:36 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ This gives a 'mousePosition' cannot be assigned to error, anyone know why? Thanks [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=598dfed41c8697534aac645f] |
| 19:01:36 | FromGitter | <Smaehtin> @jacob88888 `method setMousePosition*(this: var Input) { .base.} = ...` |
| 19:01:53 | FromGitter | <Smaehtin> *var* being the important part here |
| 19:02:21 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> Oh great that works thanks, sort of like Rust &self and &mut self |
| 19:03:36 | FromGitter | <Smaehtin> Exactly! Unless you declare `Input`as a `ref object`, then you don't need `var` since `ref`s are always(?) mutable |
| 19:06:14 | dom96 | yep |
| 19:06:48 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> Thanks, pointers and ref syntax are next on the list, nim is not too hard to learn :) |
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| 19:18:46 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> a have a question |
| 19:19:08 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> in python i can do this `file_obj.read(1024)` |
| 19:19:17 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i need the same in nim |
| 19:19:44 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> how can i read custom amount of bites |
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| 19:25:06 | Araq | readBuffer? |
| 19:25:35 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> but i need to create some kind of buffer? |
| 19:25:52 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i cant find any example |
| 19:26:45 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i think it is important to have examples wich discribe how to use files |
| 19:26:46 | dom96 | better use readBytes |
| 19:26:48 | dom96 | https://nim-lang.org/docs/system.html#readBytes,File,openArray%5B%5D,Natural,Natural |
| 19:27:01 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i found this function |
| 19:27:13 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> how i create buffer? |
| 19:27:25 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> what is start? |
| 19:27:38 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> is it position in the file? |
| 19:28:06 | dom96 | var x = newString(1000) |
| 19:28:13 | dom96 | file.readChars(x, 0, 1000) |
| 19:28:22 | dom96 | (you probably want readChars actually) |
| 19:28:30 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> ok, thank you |
| 19:29:56 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> but are you agree, that it is important to know, how use files in the language |
| 19:30:09 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> may be this need to be in the manual? |
| 19:30:40 | dom96 | yes, but the manual is too large for this IMO |
| 19:31:03 | dom96 | I think a guide titled "Reading and writing files in Nim" would be great |
| 19:31:28 | dom96 | You can write it and submit it as an article to the website repo |
| 19:31:42 | dom96 | then we can link it from the docs page |
| 19:32:39 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> ok, i will investigate and try to write it |
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| 19:36:39 | dom96 | cyberlis: or you could simply add an example in readChar's docs |
| 19:36:48 | dom96 | You've found it yourself so an example in there would have helped you a lot |
| 19:38:30 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes. it is good idea |
| 19:38:55 | dom96 | search for 'code-block' in the Nim source code to see how to add code samples into docs |
| 19:39:13 | Tiberium | he knows that already :) |
| 19:40:35 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> ugh testing JS is so asinine |
| 19:40:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> test your redux action creators! make sure javascript does what it's supposed to do! |
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| 19:42:33 | Tiberium | well I don't understand why JS has too many frameworks |
| 19:42:37 | Tiberium | testing? 100 libraries |
| 19:42:43 | Tiberium | python is better at this |
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| 19:43:38 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> http://redux.js.org/docs/recipes/WritingTests.html#action-creators |
| 19:44:05 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> the absolute only reason I am writing tests for these is A) to appease someone else and B) so I can see that 100% green status when I run npm run test |
| 19:44:07 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> :P |
| 19:44:52 | Tiberium | hmm, I think nim should have some wasm-specific features :) |
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| 19:45:01 | Tiberium | for example accessing DOM from wasm |
| 19:45:02 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> like? |
| 19:45:09 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> that'd be neat |
| 19:45:22 | Tiberium | I heard that WASM has no big performance penalty like asm.js |
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| 19:45:51 | salewski | Araq, I have a macro which gets a ref to an object as parameter (widget): |
| 19:45:55 | salewski | macro drawConnect(widget: gobject.Object; signal: string; p: untyped; arg: typed): typed = |
| 19:46:05 | salewski | let wt = getType(widget) |
| 19:46:22 | salewski | """ % [$procNameCdecl, all, $p, ($(wt[1].toStrLit)).replace(":ObjectType", ""), $(at.toStrLit)] |
| 19:46:57 | salewski | So to get the real string representation, I have to do the replace(":ObjectType", "") |
| 19:47:39 | salewski | Is that desired, or can I simplify that? I want to get plain string type, like "Button". |
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| 19:50:53 | salewski | What I was doing is, that I have replaced the "quote do" notation in the macro with string interpolation |
| 19:51:58 | salewski | followed by parseStmt(). Because that gives me more freedom for really complicated multible parameter |
| 19:52:09 | salewski | connect() macros. |
| 19:53:03 | salewski | But getType() seems to give a string with the ":ObjectType" tail. |
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| 19:54:51 | salewski | Of course the ($(wt[1].toStrLit)).replace(":ObjectType", "") works fine. But looks strange. |
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| 19:57:55 | Tiberium | dom96, look that I've found! https://github.com/cjxgm/jsonob |
| 19:58:02 | Tiberium | there's Option[type] support |
| 19:58:05 | Tiberium | but no object variants |
| 19:58:45 | dom96 | oh cool |
| 19:59:45 | Araq | salewski: that's an artifact of your type definitions I think if you use 'Foo = object' instead of 'Foo = ref object' the compiler actually has a name for the object type |
| 20:00:18 | Araq | and does not have to construct one for you (the :ObjectType suffix) |
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| 20:00:40 | salewski | Araq thanks, I will try that. |
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| 20:04:06 | dom96 | I had to deal with this :ObjectType stuff for my JSON deserialiser actually. |
| 20:04:15 | dom96 | Take a look at it to see how I've handled it |
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| 20:05:30 | salewski | dom96, thanks. |
| 20:06:29 | salewski | Currently my code looks indeed like "Button* = ref object of Bin" |
| 20:10:01 | dom96 | IIRC you need to call getType on the node again or something like that. |
| 20:10:11 | dom96 | It's honestly a bit too messy for my taste |
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| 20:19:10 | dom96 | Oooh, my mum says print copies of my book arrived. So you guys should start getting them soon too :D |
| 20:19:46 | FromGitter | <shalabhc> congrats @dom96 |
| 20:20:08 | dom96 | Thanks :) |
| 20:22:15 | Tiberium | TIL nim has genDepend compiler command :D |
| 20:23:10 | dom96 | Tiberium: Thank you for going through the issues and testing them :) |
| 20:23:21 | Tiberium | dom96, well it's not a hard task |
| 20:23:54 | dom96 | Yeah, doesn't require much effort. *hint hint for other people that want to contribute* :) |
| 20:24:14 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> contribute to what? |
| 20:24:50 | Tiberium | nim :) |
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| 20:37:05 | dom96 | btw guys, last chance to do the Nim community survey https://goo.gl/forms/0dxgbGFSnPpYlnCY2 |
| 20:37:11 | dom96 | I'll be closing it by the end of this weekend |
| 20:37:50 | ehmry | I try to remain ignorant of the JS but are sockets available when compiling for the browser? |
| 20:38:06 | Tiberium | ehmry, no, but there's websockets library for nim, which supports JS |
| 20:38:26 | ehmry | Tiberium: ok, thanks |
| 20:44:16 | Tiberium | oh, my issue is a duplicate! |
| 20:44:34 | Tiberium | my issue -https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/6233, original one - https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5684 |
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| 20:59:22 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i've done the survey |
| 20:59:47 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> dom96: interesting to see results actually (because I didn't participate in 2016 community survey) |
| 21:05:32 | euantor | Yeah, will be interesting to see the results compared to last year |
| 21:09:46 | dom96 | Yeah. I'll probably focus the analysis on interesting things this time instead of analysing everything |
| 21:09:52 | dom96 | The last blog post was far too long |
| 21:21:19 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> what about 0.17.2 on this weekend? some big issues still here? |
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| 21:22:55 | dom96 | not sure, up to Araq |
| 21:23:08 | dom96 | still the plan to release |
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| 21:41:42 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> It's it better to include all handler modules in one file (modules are just like different handlers)? because i import modules in each handler module ⏎ because this looks like hell - http://i.imgur.com/LkJN6tN.jpg (maybe it looks like this for every Nim app with s lot of imports) |
| 21:46:33 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> i'll see how this graph looks for nimble |
| 21:48:03 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> ooh, nimble.png is 18mb |
| 21:49:02 | dom96 | awesome |
| 21:49:05 | dom96 | upload it :P |
| 21:49:51 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> yeah im doing it right now, I'm from the phone :) |
| 21:50:13 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> termux has graphviz package too |
| 21:51:00 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> https://transfer.sh/slBJl/nimble.png |
| 21:51:31 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> 32244x2843 oh my |
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| 21:52:51 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> is there a main file for nim compiler? |
| 21:54:50 | dom96 | it's so big because it basically includes the compiler |
| 21:54:57 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> ah, ok |
| 21:55:01 | dom96 | so the graph for the compiler will be smaller :) |
| 21:55:17 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> my phone can't even handle this image |
| 22:05:05 | subsetpark | dom: installing compiler@#head then nimble@#head produces nimble errors https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jY43wesw/ |
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| 22:30:32 | dom96 | Does `/home/zax/.nimble/pkgs/lib` exist? |
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