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02:13:31 | mahmudov | is it possible to convert cython's c code to nim with c2nim ? |
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03:22:13 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> anything is possible |
03:22:19 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but do you really want to do it is the question |
03:22:29 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> and will it be easy |
03:22:32 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> and the answer is probably no |
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03:30:01 | def-pri-pub | zacharycarter: Have you had a chance to review my pull requests? |
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04:16:50 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> nope |
04:16:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I'll look at them now I wasn't aware of them |
04:18:14 | empxre | what's the proper ( GC-safe ) way in Nim to implement a cached object? I'm aiming to cache the results of an API request to throttle it a bit |
04:18:26 | def-pri-pub | I also filed some tickets for things I'd like to add to the engine |
04:18:41 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> |
04:19:34 | def-pri-pub | I kind of want to see if I can get the Sprite one done this weekend, but I'd like to get a response first before embarking on it. |
04:24:33 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I think we can port a lot of sprite stuff from raylib |
04:25:14 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I'm not sure what raylib does for sprite sheets but they're easy enough to implement and I'd be fine using any of the formats discussed in the issue |
04:25:58 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I did write a texture packing utility for frag which we could probably port over to zengine with little effort |
04:26:33 | def-pri-pub | I commented in the tracker |
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04:29:09 | FromGitter | <codenoid> is nim can be build an android app ? |
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04:29:59 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> sure |
04:31:22 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> apparently now Nim can be compiled on android as well |
04:32:08 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> or I guess Nim apps can be compiled on android |
04:33:54 | FromGitter | <codenoid> cool, += 1 loved loved language, btw i', from text plain background,, |
04:35:03 | FromGitter | <codenoid> https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/388 |
04:35:07 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I don't know what that means, but I'm glad you're enjoying Nim :) |
04:48:15 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> my hatred for react grows constantly |
05:01:42 | def-pri-pub | true dat |
05:01:43 | def-pri-pub | night |
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05:04:49 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> o/ |
05:05:20 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> http://imgur.com/a/LlQUH |
05:05:23 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> got all those lit up green today though |
05:05:33 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> so making good progress on asinine testing |
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09:23:41 | Tiberium | is list comprehension is slower than usual "for" loop? |
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09:26:33 | Tiberium | ah, it doesn't do preallocation of the seqw |
09:26:36 | Tiberium | seq |
09:42:27 | Tiberium | would "incorrect object construction syntax" be a good error message for https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/5965 ? |
09:45:30 | dom96 | Sure :) |
09:46:15 | Tiberium | ok, now I need to solve second case in this issue |
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09:53:22 | Tiberium | dom96, If I just need to check if code compiles, I just write this code into a test? no "discard" statements needed? |
09:53:30 | Tiberium | about compiler tests |
09:54:02 | dom96 | sure, verify it by running ./koch tests cat <thecategorythetestisin> |
09:54:15 | dom96 | Test it before and after your fix to make sure the test works :) |
09:58:23 | Tiberium | dom96, oh, I realised I need to have "discard" statement. hmm, so I'll need to split this test case into two files? |
09:58:44 | Tiberium | because they both need to have compiler error messages |
09:59:07 | Tiberium | ah, yes |
09:59:17 | dom96 | yep |
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10:13:08 | Tiberium | dom96, is there a way to check if object has field? like: if "sons" in field: |
10:13:19 | Tiberium | I need to add this check somehow |
10:14:21 | dom96 | when declared(field.sons) perhaps |
10:14:36 | Tiberium | ah |
10:14:55 | Tiberium | well this worked :) |
10:15:08 | Tiberium | but I did it with "if", because it's in the compiler |
10:15:28 | Tiberium | ah, it doesn't matter - it works both with "when" and "if" |
10:15:33 | Tiberium | but I think "if" would be better |
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10:19:26 | Tiberium | well yes, it works |
10:19:51 | dom96 | why do you need this? |
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10:21:04 | Tiberium | dom96, because in some case "sons" field is not accessible in compiler (in semobjconstr.nim). I don't know if it's a proper fix, maybe I shouldn't check for errors in this file |
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10:23:19 | dom96 | oh, you should check for the `kind` of the node |
10:23:29 | dom96 | Only a specific kind has a 'sons' field |
10:23:45 | dom96 | That's an interestingly different way to think about it though :) |
10:23:57 | dom96 | We do always check for fields "by proxy" |
10:24:05 | dom96 | it's the same for JsonNode's |
10:24:20 | dom96 | node.kind == JString means that node.str exists |
10:24:50 | Tiberium | ah, ok |
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10:29:54 | Tiberium | ok, I've made it with "field.kind", but I think I'll need to run all tests locally to see if it breaks something |
10:34:30 | Tiberium | well it was not hard to fix, I don't really know how nim compiler works, but even compiler crash error messages were very helpful |
10:41:04 | dom96 | :D |
10:41:43 | Tiberium | also I don't know if I've put tests in a correct directory - "constructors" |
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10:48:51 | kalexm | Am I right here? |
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10:49:23 | Tiberium | lol, I found a typo in one test |
10:49:29 | Tiberium | test output: "tests/objects/tobject3.nim(9, 0) Warning: key ignored: ouptut" |
10:49:34 | Tiberium | lol :) |
10:49:40 | kalexm | I am new to the Nim Language. Started on Thursday to learn by buying the ebook and already managed to get a binary running on my Vocore2 |
10:49:44 | kalexm | Love it! |
10:50:14 | Tiberium | kalexm, well, 128mb ram is more than enough for nim :) |
10:50:26 | Tiberium | but not for compiler itself sadly |
10:50:46 | kalexm | So I am Alex 42 yaers (yup) from Germany and programming since my teenager years. |
10:51:11 | kalexm | Thats why I chose nim. |
10:51:44 | Tiberium | dom96, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/6236 :) |
10:51:48 | kalexm | As it creates these smallish binaries and although has a beautiful syntax and language concept. |
10:52:22 | kalexm | Fiddled with rust before and got nuts, as the cross-compiler chain simply didnt work. |
10:52:32 | dom96 | kalexm: Thanks for buying the book and welcome :D |
10:52:42 | Tiberium | well it's easier with nim to cross-compile |
10:52:51 | Tiberium | since there's basically C compiler for almost any OS/platform :D |
10:52:55 | kalexm | It took me 10 Minutes to get a binary running with nim. Decision made. Fullstop. |
10:54:22 | kalexm | It took me three hours to compile openWRT, the toolchain. |
10:54:40 | kalexm | The nim part was a piece of cake. |
10:55:27 | kalexm | I played with Jester. I like it. I know nodeJS (the monster) very well. I like the HTML DSL a lot. But I need REST/JSON. |
10:56:04 | kalexm | Is there a framework or do I need to write my own? |
10:57:03 | dom96 | Surely Jester can handle REST |
10:57:10 | dom96 | Depends on what specifically you need |
10:57:45 | kalexm | a very simple REST / JSON Interface to have an IOT device that communicates with android / ios |
10:57:52 | Tiberium | well you can just use jester |
10:58:11 | Tiberium | because there's json parser in nim stdlib |
10:58:20 | Tiberium | and very good one actually |
10:58:34 | kalexm | OK will try again. I tried to create JSON output but the compiler threw a type error. Thats where I stopped yesterday... |
10:58:59 | Tiberium | well you need to use %* macro to easily construct JSON |
10:59:00 | kalexm | I firstly need to understand the language fully to not bother you with stupid questions. |
10:59:15 | kalexm | I did use %* |
10:59:50 | kalexm | but on return it told me that : |
10:59:53 | kalexm | test.nim(11, 14) Error: type mismatch: got (JsonNode) |
10:59:53 | kalexm | but expected one of: |
10:59:53 | kalexm | template resp(content: string; contentType = "text/html;charset=utf-8"): stmt |
10:59:55 | kalexm | template resp(code: HttpCode; headers: openArray[tuple[key, value: string]]; |
10:59:57 | kalexm | content: string): stmt |
10:59:59 | kalexm | template resp(code: HttpCode; content: string; |
11:00:01 | kalexm | contentType = "text/html;charset=utf-8"): stmt |
11:00:05 | dom96 | The json module even has an example: https://nim-lang.org/docs/json.html#creating-json :) |
11:00:12 | Tiberium | ah I understand |
11:00:18 | Tiberium | you need to convert your json to string |
11:00:20 | Tiberium | like |
11:00:23 | dom96 | ^^ yeah |
11:00:25 | dom96 | Just use $ |
11:00:26 | Tiberium | $ %*{"hello": 1} |
11:00:34 | Tiberium | well it may look very strange |
11:00:39 | kalexm | import jester, asyncdispatch, htmlgen, json |
11:00:39 | kalexm | settings: |
11:00:39 | kalexm | port = Port(5454) |
11:00:41 | kalexm | appName = "/foo" |
11:00:43 | dom96 | $(%*{...}) |
11:00:43 | kalexm | bindAddr = "127.0.0.1" |
11:00:45 | kalexm | routes: |
11:00:47 | kalexm | get "/": |
11:00:49 | kalexm | var j2 = %* {"name": "Isaac", "books": ["Robot Dreams"]} |
11:00:51 | kalexm | resp j2 |
11:00:53 | kalexm | runForever() |
11:00:54 | dom96 | kalexm: Please use a pastebin for code! |
11:00:55 | Tiberium | just use |
11:01:00 | Tiberium | resp $j2 |
11:01:00 | kalexm | sorry... |
11:01:13 | Tiberium | $ is a common used procedure for converting stuff to string |
11:01:16 | dom96 | anyway: resp $j2 |
11:01:17 | dom96 | should do it |
11:01:45 | kalexm | as you can see... I need to learn.... dont take my questions too serious... |
11:02:13 | kalexm | I will be back with a sound base in a couple of weeks. |
11:02:45 | dom96 | It's cool. Feel free to ask any and all questions here :) |
11:02:58 | kalexm | As I worked imperatively, functional and oo - I hope I will be as fast as with rust. |
11:03:39 | kalexm | How many nim programmers are out there? |
11:04:35 | Tiberium | not many :) |
11:04:40 | kalexm | I come from mainstream languages as Java, Scala, Javascript, C# (and a bit C/C++ twenty years ago) |
11:04:49 | Tiberium | well nim is not mainstream sadly |
11:04:55 | Tiberium | (yet) |
11:04:58 | kalexm | not to forget python ruby and php |
11:05:03 | kalexm | and some more. |
11:05:18 | kalexm | But I think nim can replace a lot of them. |
11:05:20 | Tiberium | well python is more mainstream than Scala or C/C++ :D |
11:05:25 | Tiberium | I mean it's more popular |
11:05:42 | Tiberium | mostly because of new people, who just discovered programming |
11:05:59 | kalexm | I used python to graps AI concepts recently |
11:06:03 | kalexm | grasp |
11:06:10 | kalexm | I still on my way |
11:06:45 | kalexm | Python seems to be the Lingua Franka for AI and Data Science |
11:07:13 | kalexm | I wonder why nim hasnt made it yet for IOT Devices. |
11:07:27 | kalexm | As it seems to be ideal for that problem domain. |
11:11:04 | Tiberium | well I'm too lazy to try to run Nim on esp8266 :) |
11:11:23 | Tiberium | because I would need to create bindings for esp sdk |
11:11:28 | Tiberium | for using wifi stuff |
11:13:02 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> here is a nice project running on the esp: https://github.com/TomCrypto/caret |
11:13:33 | Tiberium | well I saw it |
11:13:45 | Tiberium | but xtensa cpu is removed from nim 0_0 |
11:13:56 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> you can add it manually |
11:15:47 | Araq | removed? more likely was never added |
11:16:24 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/c531db90642bacfd7002582261439500e50dd5db/compiler/platform.nim#L189 just add you're custom cpu here and rebuild nim |
11:16:37 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> and built it with no os option |
11:16:44 | Tiberium | ah, ok |
11:16:46 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> *the project |
11:17:37 | dom96 | pity that project was abandoned |
11:17:50 | Tiberium | yeah |
11:18:06 | kalexm | need to leave know. bye |
11:18:12 | kalexm | now |
11:18:12 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> while not directly related to esp this project also has a lot of useful informations https://github.com/gokr/ardunimo |
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11:18:22 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> have a nice day |
11:18:27 | Tiberium | well esp8266 supports "emulating" a arduino |
11:18:38 | Tiberium | because you can write projects in arduino ide for esp8266 |
11:19:28 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> indeed, for hobby embeded projects it would recomend http://platformio.org/ |
11:20:07 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> on platformio framework you will also find the arduino --> esp option |
11:22:14 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> The best part of nim is that you can use it on any level of you're project, built the server in nim, use nim on the IoT device, build the front end part admin page also with nim |
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11:29:09 | Tiberium | well and can I use any GC with esp8266? |
11:29:32 | Tiberium | it has ~240kb ram :D |
11:31:21 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> regarding the GC part I have no ideea |
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11:32:15 | Tiberium | maybe I can use --gc:stack as Araq suggested to someone about kernel in nim (on reddit) |
11:35:21 | Tiberium | i don't know if xtensa cross-tolchain has string.h |
11:35:29 | Tiberium | (memcpy, memset) |
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12:02:01 | Tiberium | well this caret code is broken :( |
12:02:06 | Tiberium | i'm trying to fix it |
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12:30:25 | FromGitter | <codenoid> hi, can i got total 100% loaded webpage using standart Nim HTTP Client ? https://nim-lang.org/docs/httpclient.html |
12:31:07 | FromGitter | <codenoid> *a javascript rendered webpage |
12:32:07 | Tiberium | ehm, no |
12:32:09 | Tiberium | it's different things |
12:32:27 | FromGitter | <codenoid> is there any Nim library for it ? |
12:32:30 | Tiberium | hmm |
12:32:51 | Tiberium | you can use selenium webdriver |
12:32:55 | Tiberium | it has JSON protocol api |
12:32:56 | dom96 | oh this is tricky. You need a full web browser to do that. |
12:33:09 | dom96 | well. maybe not a full web browser |
12:33:13 | FromGitter | <codenoid> i want nim do that for me |
12:33:13 | Tiberium | but no ready libraries for nim sadly |
12:33:13 | dom96 | but at least a js engine |
12:33:33 | Tiberium | codenoid: even python doesn't have this kind of stdlib module |
12:33:40 | Tiberium | i doubt some language has it |
12:33:46 | Tiberium | (in standart library) |
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12:35:13 | Tiberium | well selenium webdriver has a json protocol |
12:35:28 | Tiberium | https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/wiki/JsonWireProtocol |
12:36:53 | FromGitter | <codenoid> https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1921 |
12:37:10 | Tiberium | yes |
12:37:18 | Tiberium | there's even a example here |
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12:51:30 | FromGitter | <codenoid> thanks @FromIRC |
12:59:26 | Tiberium | btw FromIRC is not a real person, it's a just bridge to IRC :) |
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13:09:44 | FromGitter | <codenoid> boop, ;) ,, i just need to search AJAX end point who give the web data,, default http client and json parser will do that for me :shipit: |
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13:12:45 | dom96 | :D |
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13:52:35 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=598f0823210ac2692077f2c3] |
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13:53:54 | Tiberium | well error is similar to #5965, but I don't know why your case doesn't work |
13:54:49 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> Thanks yeah I saw that, trying to figure out more info I could provide |
13:56:18 | Tiberium | hm |
13:56:21 | Tiberium | it works for me |
13:56:29 | Tiberium | what version of nimd did you use? |
13:56:51 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> 1) 7.0 I believe (installed a few days ago) |
13:57:10 | Tiberium | see play.nim-lang.org/?gist=e31b913780a7ef506603d89d3f2b4cef |
13:57:27 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> compiles fine |
13:57:41 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> yeah, but not 1.7.0, but 0.17.0 :) |
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13:58:33 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> @TiberiumN Heh thanks, I'll try and isolate it now |
13:59:06 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> btw if you want vector3d there's already one in standart library |
13:59:25 | FromGitter | <TiberiumN> but it's Vector type is not generic |
14:00:09 | Araq | yeah we need to patch that |
14:01:21 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> @TiberiumN Yeah it's interesting I'm hacking on Zengine (https://github.com/zacharycarter/zengine/) and he has his own matrix library, so I'm sort of using that for now, gonna take a look at the std lib though |
14:02:39 | Tiberium | well if you need matrixes only there's a better-suited library i think |
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14:08:10 | mahmudov | how can we run linux shell commands? |
14:08:28 | mahmudov | like os.system("echo 'test'") in python |
14:08:34 | dom96 | check out the osproc module |
14:08:45 | Tiberium | very easily |
14:09:02 | Tiberium | also for simple commands you can just use https://nim-lang.org/docs/os.html execShellCmd |
14:10:34 | mahmudov | btw i am looking /nim-lang.org/docs for info |
14:10:42 | Tiberium | yes, and there's all info here |
14:10:47 | mahmudov | also is there any examples pages |
14:11:03 | Tiberium | they're usually on module docs themselves |
14:11:39 | Tiberium | and often description of the procedure is enough |
14:11:48 | mahmudov | ok |
14:12:15 | Tiberium | well yes, nim docs are not the best |
14:12:34 | Tiberium | but after you use Nim a bit - you can easily understand them :) |
14:14:53 | mahmudov | no prob. + here is enough for help :) |
14:15:24 | mahmudov | also i liked if we define comments for a proc |
14:15:35 | mahmudov | we can produce html doc for it. |
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14:16:02 | mahmudov | isnt it,so docs/ are generated this way? |
14:16:16 | Tiberium | yes they are |
14:16:22 | mahmudov | cool. |
14:16:24 | Tiberium | all docs are in .nim files |
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14:19:56 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @jacob88888 o/ if you have any questions about zengine please feel free to ping me |
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14:22:23 | mahmudov | yglukhov http://ix.io/z5v |
14:23:01 | mahmudov | i did "nimble install nimx" then "nim c nimxedit" |
14:23:08 | Tiberium | well AFAIK nimxedit is unmaintained |
14:23:25 | Tiberium | last commit to it was on 1st of Jul 2016 |
14:24:17 | mahmudov | yeb maybe yglukhov updates.. |
14:24:31 | Tiberium | well I heard no one likes gui editors :( |
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14:25:17 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> @zacharycarter Thanks! So far zengine is very clean and easy to understand/build on, I'm moving a few things around so it works a bit like threejs heh |
14:25:30 | mahmudov | which lib do you offer for starting ? |
14:26:17 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @jacob88888 cool! if you build anything on top of it feel free to PR back to the repo |
14:26:39 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> always looking for help / samples / etc |
14:28:01 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> @zacharycarter Sounds good will do |
14:28:26 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> |
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14:29:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> this react test is going to drive me crazy |
14:37:48 | Tiberium | wow, search by email (in google) gives very interesting things to read! https://lists.gt.net/python/python/747735?do=post_view_threaded |
14:39:11 | Tiberium | I actually love to read something from 3-8 years ago |
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14:49:23 | dom96 | Ever went back to the beginning of the Nim IRC logs? :) |
14:49:37 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> In regards to the previous Vector3/compiler error issue I was having earlier, did I just miss that spaces matter when initializing and object type? |
14:49:58 | Tiberium | well yes |
14:50:02 | Tiberium | (x: 0.5, y: 0.0, z:-0.5) wouldn't work |
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14:50:08 | Tiberium | (x: 0.5, y: 0.0, z: -0.5) would work |
14:50:37 | Tiberium | dom96, I actually can? wow |
14:50:57 | Tiberium | I didn't knew that irc logs are stored forever :) |
14:51:23 | Tiberium | WAT? |
14:51:24 | FromGitter | <jacob88888> Tiberium: Ok thanks that seems to be it |
14:51:26 | Tiberium | there's logs from 2012 |
14:52:49 | Tiberium | dom96, https://irclogs.nim-lang.org/30-05-2012.html :) |
14:52:59 | Tiberium | i found it |
14:53:08 | dom96 | yep, css is a bit messed up |
14:53:20 | dom96 | because they used to be written straight into an html file |
14:53:25 | dom96 | nowadays they are inside JSON files |
14:53:31 | dom96 | and then rendered on the fly :) |
14:53:35 | Tiberium | well doesn't really matter, but the fact that they're stored is good |
14:53:37 | dom96 | But still readable |
14:53:44 | Tiberium | where are they stored? |
14:53:49 | Tiberium | NimBot, !ping |
14:53:54 | Tiberium | !ping |
14:53:54 | NimBot | pong |
14:53:56 | Tiberium | yay |
14:54:01 | Tiberium | still works after 5 years :D |
14:54:45 | dom96 | Yeah, NimBot desperately needs love |
14:54:50 | dom96 | I have such big plans for it |
14:55:01 | dom96 | I want it to track the user count here |
14:55:14 | dom96 | I also want it to be integrated with the Nim playground for code execution |
14:55:23 | Tiberium | this would not be too hard I think |
14:55:32 | dom96 | And I want it to allow me to search for procedures, like !doc toUpper |
14:55:39 | Tiberium | ah, this is super-helpful |
14:55:54 | dom96 | If anyone wants a project feel free to make PRs ;) |
14:57:36 | Tiberium | wait, it has the ability to anounce commits? |
14:57:49 | dom96 | yeah, if the NimBuild build farm is running |
14:58:08 | dom96 | I didn't have the time to maintain it though |
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14:59:47 | Tiberium | wait, so it's like buildbot for nightly builds? |
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15:03:46 | dom96 | yep |
15:04:29 | dom96 | Maybe I'll get back to it. Araq loved it :P |
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15:04:42 | dom96 | Right now I think I would focus on just building nightly binaries. |
15:04:47 | dom96 | Before it was very much for testing |
15:04:57 | dom96 | This was before AppVeyor even existed |
15:05:01 | dom96 | and probably before travis as well |
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15:12:40 | Araq | yeah, nimbuild and Aporia is your best work 8-) |
15:13:55 | dom96 | :D |
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15:24:16 | Tiberium | I'll upload Gource visualization of nim repo today |
15:24:37 | Tiberium | but it's not the best - all dirs were highlighted, so in the end there was a mess with directories in test folder |
15:25:25 | Tiberium | and time is very fast |
15:25:30 | Araq | add dots to the dirs then? |
15:25:58 | Tiberium | well I can just remove highlighting of the directories |
15:26:06 | Tiberium | so they would highlight only if something changed in them |
15:27:28 | Tiberium | currently at the end it looks like this - https://www.pictshare.net/4hvbcs6fky.png |
15:27:45 | Tiberium | (every time gource produces unique tree) |
15:30:47 | Tiberium | I'll see how it looks without directories highlighted |
15:39:26 | Tiberium | oh yay, I found script to download avatars from github :) |
15:40:30 | dom96 | def-: Haskell :'( |
15:41:45 | Tiberium | sadly there's no way in gource to highlight some dirs ONLY when something in them is changed, and highlight other dirs all the time |
15:41:54 | demi- | i've got a csv file that has a column of numbers, i want to parse those as ints/floats |
15:42:00 | def- | dom96: I wish I had rewritten it in Nim, I'm trying to figure out Haskell space leaks now |
15:42:39 | def- | dom96: would Nim deal better with feeding thousands of open connections? |
15:42:53 | dom96 | It would certainly be an interesting test. |
15:43:16 | dom96 | Why did you write it in Haskell in the first place? |
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15:43:35 | def- | It was a Christmas exercise for our students at university |
15:43:41 | def- | and the course was doing Haskell at that time |
15:44:56 | dom96 | I see. I can't fault you for that, but it feels like a missed opportunity for Nim. |
15:45:29 | def- | It was literally a few minutes to make the timer with the existing Haskell framework. Rewriting gifstream in Nim would have been a few hours of work :) |
15:46:14 | def- | I have some other project in Nim planned, should be a bit more excited, but no guarantees if I'll find the time for it |
15:46:20 | def- | exciting* |
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15:46:52 | dom96 | oh wow, you wrote that a while back. |
15:47:18 | FromGitter | <BontaVlad> @def, keep the projects coming, I really enjoy reading you're blog |
15:47:37 | dom96 | def-: So is Haskell not able to handle the load? |
15:48:02 | dom96 | I wrote this Snake game to test how well Nim can handle load... https://picheta.me/snake/ |
15:48:04 | def- | it's handling it fine. but after 10000 visitors or so I can notice increased memory usage |
15:48:05 | dom96 | But HN never picked it up |
15:48:29 | def- | and I can't reproduce it locally, so I'm not sure yet what's causing it |
15:49:31 | def- | maybe some stale connections that keep a few KB of memory each |
15:49:33 | dom96 | But yeah, really cool. |
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16:28:45 | Tiberium | 3 commits to 11k btw |
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16:47:22 | Tiberium | im uploading gource video now, I just added some random music, so you can just turn it off |
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16:54:42 | Tiberium | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJ7Bzgv3n0 if you don't want the music you can just turn it off :) |
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17:02:59 | Tiberium | More action is starting from 2014 :) |
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17:05:38 | dom96 | nice |
17:07:07 | Tiberium | pls don't look at other videos, it's a mix of some programming tests / games (in russian) |
17:07:29 | Tiberium | I didn't record any video with my voice in more than a year |
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17:43:45 | dom96 | hey yglukhov, you around? |
17:43:54 | yglukhov | hey whats up |
17:44:00 | dom96 | Mind if I PM? |
17:44:14 | yglukhov | sure |
17:47:51 | def-pri-pub | zacharycarter: not sure if you're here (or idling right now), but when you get a chance, can you take a look atthe link to the example I posted on the issue tracker? |
17:48:20 | def-pri-pub | I want to get a minimal zengine template before I embark on the Sprite object. What I have so far only shows black and the text. |
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18:04:16 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> guys, why do we need this `start` agument ? ⏎ `proc readBytes(f: File, a: var openArray[int8|uint8], start, len: Natural): int =` ⏎ what use cases of it? I understand it is offset in `a: openAray`. but for what? is it so often used? |
18:05:46 | dom96 | maybe not often, but might be useful to some |
18:07:02 | Tiberium | it cna be used for reading not from the start of file |
18:07:04 | Tiberium | it's normal to have |
18:07:09 | Tiberium | *normal |
18:07:25 | Tiberium | and it's not an offset in openarray |
18:07:26 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> this is not a file offset |
18:07:32 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> it is |
18:07:55 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=598f43fa162adb6d2eec8806] |
18:07:57 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> you see |
18:08:04 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> it is offset in the array |
18:08:07 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> oh boy |
18:08:14 | Tiberium | but it still be useful to someone |
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18:10:37 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> it sounds like. we have printing function. And we have `start_hacking` argument in it, because it can be usefull to someone |
18:14:25 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> that is why i asked how you use it. may be you found some usecase. Because if i will write small arrticle about reading and writing file, i shoud explain porpose of the `start` argument. And explanation it is useful for someone is bad |
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18:22:07 | euantor | It's extremely useful |
18:22:17 | euantor | Say the file isn't an actual file, but for example a serial port |
18:22:39 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes |
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18:22:46 | euantor | 1 read might not fill the whole buffer (array), so yo need to read multiple times to get exactly N bytes of data - you then use a loop with the offset to fill the buffer |
18:23:10 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> ok, i see |
18:25:32 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> thanks to you |
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18:26:56 | euantor | No problem :) |
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20:03:50 | kalexm | someone out there? |
20:04:16 | kalexm | how to get a value from a StringTable? |
20:05:39 | kalexm | like myStrTabVar["key"] |
20:07:03 | Tiberium | like you said |
20:07:06 | Tiberium | xD |
20:07:32 | Tiberium | show the code if it's not working |
20:07:37 | Tiberium | but please on gist |
20:07:39 | Tiberium | or pastebin :) |
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20:13:21 | AndyMonteith | https://hastebin.com/aqezosovow.hs Would anybody know why the compiler would think I'm giving it a NimNode, when I declared the name identifier as a string? Thanks :) |
20:14:16 | Tiberium | because macro accepts AST |
20:14:27 | Tiberium | not usual types |
20:15:00 | Tiberium | just add |
20:15:07 | Tiberium | *change newIdentNode(name.strVal) |
20:15:09 | Tiberium | this would work |
20:15:14 | Tiberium | and not discard |
20:15:15 | Tiberium | but return |
20:15:21 | Tiberium | ah |
20:15:27 | Tiberium | result.add newIdentNode(name.strVal) |
20:16:12 | AndyMonteith | so any parameter passed to a macro, no matter the type declared originally will be like wrapped in a AST Node? |
20:16:19 | Tiberium | yes |
20:16:27 | AndyMonteith | Ah right, thank you very much for your help :) |
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20:41:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @define-private-public I will take a look here shortly I just got finished writing about 10k lines of react tests |
20:41:53 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> need a break |
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20:51:00 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> screw that one line |
20:51:01 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> (https://files.gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim/VPpj/Screen-Shot-2017-08-12-at-4.36.45-PM.png) |
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20:52:01 | Tiberium | Ok, now I'll be in IRC even from the phone |
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20:55:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @define-private-public looking now |
20:57:06 | dom96 | zacharycarter: I feel for you :( |
20:57:36 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> dom96: I bet you do :P |
20:57:51 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> you had to have had it worse than I do, having been there |
20:58:06 | dom96 | No, as a matter of fact I haven't written any react tests yet. |
20:58:24 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> oh, well if you ever do, you're in for a treat :P |
20:59:38 | dom96 | What do you use for them? Something selenium-like? |
20:59:55 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> Nope! these are all unit tests |
21:00:07 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> but I will probably end up writing some end to end tests using something like nightwatch |
21:00:12 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> which runs a selenium driver |
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21:00:34 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> @define-private-public just get rid of these lines - beginTextureMode(target) && endTextureMode() |
21:00:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> texture mode is for rendering to a texture |
21:07:37 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> find interesting thing. nim has `write` function for `int`s `float`s `bool`s etc. but it doesn't have same `read` functions |
21:10:04 | Tiberium | https://nim-lang.org/docs/streams.html |
21:10:06 | Tiberium | ? |
21:12:09 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> how can i convert `File` to `Stream` |
21:12:41 | Tiberium | Well you don't |
21:12:52 | Tiberium | You just open new file stream |
21:14:13 | Tiberium | If you need to read binary file - either use file stream, or read file and create string stream |
21:14:35 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> ok, i understood |
21:15:05 | Tiberium | And where did you find those "write" procedures? |
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21:24:10 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> line 172 ⏎ https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/master/lib/system/sysio.nim |
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21:26:20 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> you are the first who told me about streams. In the internet no place where i can read about right way of read files in nim-lang. i thought it is usual daily task |
21:28:45 | Tiberium | Yes it is |
21:29:05 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> but no examples about reading and witing. sorry. i am upset. because new guys to nim can't even read data from their files because no tutorials about it |
21:30:20 | Tiberium | They can, you just don't understand. Look - why are you wanting the functionality to read integers from the file in usual IO module? |
21:30:37 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> no no no |
21:30:38 | Tiberium | Java for example has similar streams |
21:30:53 | FromGitter | <Smaehtin> @cyberlis You can link to a specific line of a file on GitHub by clicking on the line, like this: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/master/lib/system/sysio.nim#L172 :D |
21:31:09 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> oh, thank you |
21:31:16 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> back to files |
21:31:27 | Tiberium | Lol, this procedure is internal |
21:31:39 | Tiberium | You can't use it outside of sysio.nim |
21:31:45 | Tiberium | It's needed for the module |
21:31:55 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes this is problem |
21:32:11 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i dont know what functions is right to use |
21:32:18 | Tiberium | streams module |
21:32:26 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> what modules i should use to write and read files |
21:32:31 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> thank you |
21:32:47 | Tiberium | It's separate things! |
21:32:49 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> it is very important |
21:32:54 | Tiberium | Reading a file is a one thing |
21:33:14 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> and what is the other |
21:33:20 | Tiberium | Reading some binary file into primitive types is another thing |
21:33:28 | dom96 | cyberlis: reading a file couldn't be easier: readFile("path/to/my/file.txt") |
21:33:33 | Tiberium | Yeah |
21:33:41 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> 12G file |
21:33:42 | dom96 | and writing a file... yep, you guessed it: writeFile("path", "contents") |
21:33:47 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> i have 8G ram |
21:33:54 | Tiberium | Use readLine iterator |
21:34:00 | Tiberium | Oh |
21:34:01 | dom96 | what's in the file? |
21:34:07 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> but if my file is binary |
21:34:10 | dom96 | what are you planning to do with it? |
21:34:13 | dom96 | parse it? |
21:34:35 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> read 40 bites every iteration |
21:34:54 | Tiberium | Bits? |
21:35:20 | Tiberium | Well it's the exact case of readChars with an offset :) |
21:35:22 | dom96 | So I'm pretty sure I showed you how to do it: use readChars. |
21:35:37 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> bytes* sorry |
21:35:38 | dom96 | no, the offset is for the destination array/string. |
21:35:44 | Tiberium | Ah, yes |
21:36:07 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes. thank you. I know that right now |
21:36:20 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> but what will be with other newbies |
21:36:41 | Tiberium | They read the docs |
21:36:53 | dom96 | The docs can always be improved. |
21:37:03 | dom96 | And you're more than welcome to improve them. |
21:37:25 | Tiberium | Well read Chars has a good description |
21:38:50 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes. it is. but i steel don't know when i should use streams? |
21:38:50 | Tiberium | You just use while loop and readChars |
21:39:08 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> when i read binary formated file? |
21:39:39 | Tiberium | When you need to pack and unpack binary data to/from primitive types, like booleans or ints |
21:40:15 | Tiberium | See https://github.com/TiberiumN/nim-osureplay for example where streams module is needed |
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21:42:18 | Tiberium | Or https://gist.github.com/TiberiumN/e6ec6f6a865adc9ea7192b51ec8ccd51 |
21:42:43 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> oh, cool |
21:42:45 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> thank you |
21:43:40 | Tiberium | If your file has only strings - it's not "binary" |
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21:46:43 | FromGitter | <cyberlis> yes i see |
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22:47:21 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> damn my state is having a rough day :/ |
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23:02:18 | dom96 | oh? |
23:02:22 | dom96 | what's happening? |
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23:08:45 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> I guess there was a big white power rally in one of our cities which included a vehicle ramming into protestors and killing one, and now apparently a police helicopter has crashed |
23:09:03 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> probably totally unrelated but still, lots of chaos going on |
23:10:01 | dom96 | oh, that sucks :\ |
23:10:46 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> yeah, oh well, that's the USA for you |
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23:20:42 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> http://time.com/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-clashes/?utm_campaign=time&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=time_socialflow_twitter |
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23:36:26 | Araq | this is not nim-offtopic |
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23:48:13 | FromGitter | <zacharycarter> sorry |
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23:59:12 | dom96 | Araq: No other discussion was taking place, ergo it's fine to go offtopic. |