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04:11:13FromDiscord<luxurymode> This interpreter I'm working on feels like it's writing itself. Nim! ❤️
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04:14:30FromDiscord<luxurymode> In reply to @Elegantbeef "<@707990522400342046> this is close": Nice. I had been just overriding `$` myself and treating it much the same I would `repr` in Python to produce a string that would represent a valid way to instantiate the object
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04:34:02FromDiscord<jaar23> Hi, I'm playing with threadpool library quite sometime, and found this behavior.↵If I have multi core machine I can run multiple long running threads without any problem.↵However, when I reduce the core to 1, then I realised it is only able to run at maximum 4 long running threads.. by default.↵Btw, long running thread I mean a while loop that never end and keep waiting for io. Anyone can clarify me?
04:35:28FromDiscord<jaar23> Also, if I setMinPoolSize to 8 and run on the single core machine, then I can run more than 4 long running threads.↵In this case, the minPoolSize, seems more like a maxPoolSize 🤔
04:37:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'll say checkout taskpools instead
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06:51:00FromDiscord<jaar23> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IJe
06:54:19FromDiscord<odexine> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IJf
06:54:49FromDiscord<odexine> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IJf" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IJg"
06:55:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Pretty much all of Nim does not support shared gc'd types
06:55:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Sharing GC'd resources across threads didnt work in refc due to local heaps, it doesnt work with Orc/Arc unless you know what you're doing due to destructors
06:56:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is `--mm:atomicArc` to enable arc shared resources
06:56:59FromDiscord<sharpnife> (Unsure, where to ask, new to this server, sorry if its not the right place)↵↵I’m using nimpy to convert the nim file to be used as a python module, and I wonder if there is a way for the python type checkers(like pyright, mypy such) to detect the nim module and provide intelli-sense of some sorts?
07:08:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I imagine not
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07:25:31FromDiscord<jaar23> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Sharing GC'd resources across": Got it.
07:26:00FromDiscord<jaar23> I saw threadpool has distinguished thread. Any ideas what is that?
07:29:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a thread that has a moustache and wears a tophat
07:29:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If that's not the case, I don't know
07:33:38FromDiscord<jaar23> Okay. I got it
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09:23:26FromDiscord<that_dude.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IJD
09:24:26FromDiscord<that_dude.> Also it seems to break something on the playground
09:26:47FromDiscord<that_dude.> In fact it seems multiple things from `times` is causing the issue. I've been using things like `json` and `tables` constantly though
09:35:50FromDiscord<that_dude.> Hmm I guess they recently did some cloud patch that heavily dislikes Nim in general now :/
09:36:32FromDiscord<nnsee> which AV?
09:36:36FromDiscord<that_dude.> Bitdefender
09:36:37FromDiscord<nnsee> cannot replicate on Defender
09:36:58FromDiscord<that_dude.> I can't even compile `echo 1` now lol
09:39:35FromDiscord<nnsee> well isn't Bitdefender a Bit trigger happy
09:40:01FromDiscord<ringabout> Which version, 2.0?
09:42:37FromDiscord<that_dude.> Yeah
09:43:00FromDiscord<that_dude.> I guess I didn't expect it to get more trigger happy at 3:30 in the morning
09:45:53FromDiscord<nnsee> can you send me an example exe?
09:47:26FromDiscord<ringabout> There is no good solution. But probably we can build a workflow to submit the binaries of these examples to virusTotal => https://github.com/nim-lang/virus_checker
09:48:20FromDiscord<that_dude.> Larger files work better. It seems just short ones trigger it more
09:48:34FromDiscord<that_dude.> Ie, I can compile larger projects just fine
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11:02:40emeryodexine: a lockfile build https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/260405
11:04:26FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> SDL2 VS SFML↵What's the best?
11:05:13FromDiscord<odexine> In reply to @emery "<@259277943275126785>: a lockfile build": niceeeeee
11:07:38emeryodexine: if this doesn't break any of the evaluation rules in nixpkgs I might make an RFC about moving the Nim programs to use lockfiles for libaries. Not that many people care about Nim in nixpkgs but other languages could do something similar
11:08:10FromDiscord<odexine> i dont remember what the BEAM guys do for this
11:22:39FromDiscord<System64 ~ Flandre Scarlet> Wait↵Nim 1.6 still maintained ?
11:42:28FromDiscord<odexine> yes
11:42:38FromDiscord<odexine> iirc 1.4 is still "maintained" as well
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12:13:49FromDiscord<xtrayambak> Is there a function in `std/times` that can turn an integer representing seconds into a string like "{} days, {} hours, {} minutes" or, in better words, take seconds, and turn them into days, take remaining seconds, turn them into hours, then minutes, and so on and so forth.
12:17:14FromDiscord<nervecenter> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IKd
12:17:21FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit)
12:18:58FromDiscord<nervecenter> (edit) "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IKd" => "https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IKf"
12:20:25FromDiscord<odexine> https://nim-lang.org/docs/times.html#%24%2CDuration
12:20:45FromDiscord<odexine> https://nim-lang.org/docs/times.html#initDuration%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64%2Cint64
12:21:00FromDiscord<odexine> so basically just make a Duration then echo it
12:21:31FromDiscord<xtrayambak> as you can see, the implementation I hacked is very much flawless https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1161639716471447574/image.png?ex=6539084a&is=6526934a&hm=09075ca4077797b90c050239a318df330ceaa817aeb6869c9fe429ddf0e62080&
12:23:44FromDiscord<xtrayambak> In reply to @odexine "https://nim-lang.org/docs/times.html#initDuration%2": This seems to work better than my flawless solution, indeed.
12:23:58FromDiscord<odexine> based hyprland user
12:24:32FromDiscord<xtrayambak> Yeah, I'm writing a Hyprland IPC wrapper too. I hope to get keybinds working later, because I got almost everything else working
12:25:52FromDiscord<odexine> ngl i just hack up some script using socat for that lol
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12:57:29NimEventerNew thread by LokeX: Nim boilerplate, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10545
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14:48:18arkanoidwhat is the correct way to get the available versions of a nimble package?
14:49:00arkanoidI see that versions displayed in nimble packages, tags displayed in github repo, and version declared in github nimble file do not agree each other
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15:10:25FromDiscord<odexine> when the versions arent DRY
15:10:36FromDiscord<odexine> IIRC nimble treats tags as ground truth
15:11:37arkanoidjust found --ver argument for nimble, it gets tags from github and prints them. Yet if I type in .nimble file a requirement tag with a version not listed in tags, it downloads and installs that
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15:58:27arkanoidsadly even with nim 2.0 my not-so-large project which compiles and runs fine, manages to fill computer memory and trigger OOM when running nimsuggests, no matter if lsp or directly via vscode extension
16:00:17arkanoidps -ae | grep nimsuggest | wc -l --> 100
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17:10:50FromDiscord<Phil> I feel like GTK really doesn't like their own EditableLabel widget.↵It literally has no signal that gets thrown when somebody changes the label from editable to non-editable and vice versa, just wtf.
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18:22:41FromDiscord<demotomohiro> How about to create an issue about it?↵https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues
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18:47:37FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> @demotomohiro No reason for an issue, GtkEditableLabel implements https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/iface.Editable.html, and that has the "changed" signal. So for Gintro that was working out of the box, for ownkettle same casting may be necessary.
18:47:38FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> @demotomohiro No reason for an issue, GtkEditableLabel implements https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/iface.Editable.html, and that has the "changed" signal. So for Gintro that was working out of the box, for ownkettle same casting may be necessary.
18:47:38FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> @demotomohiro No reason for an issue, GtkEditableLabel implements https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/iface.Editable.html, and that has the "changed" signal. So for Gintro that was working out of the box, for ownkettle same casting may be necessary.
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18:48:42FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski) "@demotomohiro No reason for": Please stop throwing out what I didn't mean.↵It implement changeable which triggers when the label text gets changed.↵It does not solely trigger when edited changes.
18:48:52FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "what" => "statements about things that"
18:49:03FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "changeable" => "changed"
18:51:40FromDiscord<Phil> It neither has an activated signal which almost every other entry widget has and I'm not entirely sure why there's no action either for pressing `esc` while the label text is in focus.
18:52:31FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @demotomohiro "How about to create": As for this: Because the chance is quite high that this is a design philosophie issue and I just don't fully grasp how you're supposed to use that Widget as maybe I'm imagining using it in contextx where you shouldn't.
18:52:58FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "focus." => "focus in order to abort a label-edit."
18:53:04FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> Ah, you do want immediate updates when you type in text, not only when you press RETURN? I think I had the same issue years ago, I will see if I can remember.
18:53:13FromDiscord<yetiwizard> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IM6
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18:53:28FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "contextx" => "contexts"
18:53:32FromDiscord<jviega> Use a template.
18:54:38FromDiscord<jviega> Eg,
18:54:45FromDiscord<jviega> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IM7
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18:55:23FromDiscord<jviega> 1001 ways you can structure it depending on what you want
18:56:21FromDiscord<Phil> In reply to @StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski) "Ah, you do want": Other way around.↵You can get immediate updates, but I would like to know when the user presses return while the editableLabel is in focus or escape, so I can call `gtk_editable_label_stop_editing`with either true (if the user pressed enter, to commit the edit) or false (if the user pressed esc, to not commit the edit)
18:56:52FromDiscord<Phil> (edit) "updates," => "updates aka you get a changed signal every keypress of the user while the editable label is in focus,"
18:57:37FromDiscord<yetiwizard> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IM8
19:02:43FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> @phil Sorry, I don't know. I would suggest asking in the Gnome forum, as we have no plain GTK forum any more\: I had to ask there dozens of questions myself in the past, Mr Bassi and a few more people are really smart. See https://discourse.gnome.org. Bye.
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19:14:34FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @yetiwizard "Is there a RAII": https://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/534↵`close()` will be automatically called in future Nim.
19:15:05FromDiscord<demotomohiro> And you can also use `defer`.
19:16:44FromDiscord<yetiwizard> Oh nice, good to know. Is using `defer` generally recommended, or is it bad practice?
19:16:49FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> I wonder if it's worth me to have a go at porting the stdlib to work with newer features hm...
19:18:00FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Only issue I could see is cross-thread/dll boundary issues if you replace the current way `Stream`s work ig, if I could make it similarly without the verboseness tho, that'd be cool hm
19:18:19FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Well not verbose but not great
19:18:39FromDiscord<yetiwizard> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=4IMd
19:20:17FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> In reply to @yetiwizard "Oh nice, good to": I mean, it'd depend on what you think
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19:20:51FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Though I will safe a few years ago it was being considered for deprecation (also defer only works when it's not top-level)
19:21:11FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> You may prefer to use that template or a try finally statement
19:21:36FromDiscord<yetiwizard> True, I feel like that's the best approach. Also add a check whether the file was even opened in there
19:24:31FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @yetiwizard "I'm having trouble reading": If you are using windows, you probably need to change codepage to unicode.↵iirc, it is `chcp 65001`.
19:24:33FromDiscord<StefanSalewski (StefanSalewski)> @Phil Maybe one idea is to try the "move-focus" signal of the parent class GtkWindow. You may try, I have no other ideas.
19:25:15FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @yetiwizard "I'm having trouble reading": Or is that not unicode?
19:26:01FromDiscord<yetiwizard> I'm trying to get this C# equivalent: `new string(System.Text.Encoding.Latin1.GetString(BinRead.ReadBytes(length)).Trim('\0'));`
19:28:15FromDiscord<michaelb.eth> In reply to @yetiwizard "I'm trying to get": what is the encoding of the binary file?
19:29:17FromDiscord<yetiwizard> ISO/IEC 8859-1
19:32:01FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I don't know what that C# code do or about that encode, but you probably need to convert the string to utf8 encoding or change terminal setting so that ISO/IEC 8859-1 is print correctly.
19:33:35FromDiscord<yetiwizard> hm k, thanks anyways. I'll see what I can do about it
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19:56:27Amun-Rayou can create simple array of 25 strings using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1#Code_page_layout
19:56:55Amun-Ra256*
19:59:30NimEventerNew thread by MauriceLambert: Workaround to use multiples asynchronous sockets on Windows (to bypass OSError 10038 and 10055)., see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/10546
20:01:20FromDiscord<yetiwizard> In reply to @Amun-Ra "you can create simple": I suppose I can also consider this option if all else fails 😅
20:02:28Amun-Ra:>
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23:02:46FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Wonder why methods don't do what streams have to do anyway for proc calling
23:03:19FromDiscord<Chronos [She/Her]> Streams store a proc in the actual object itself, idk how methods work but is there a reason methods don't do this?
23:05:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It increases the object size and also duplicates procedures
23:05:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A centralised vtable like C++ makes more sense
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23:57:48FromDiscord<demotomohiro> I guess, most of people don't create 100+ Streams so having procs and increasing the object size doesn't cause much problems.