| 00:03:18 | imjoe` | I like $global and CONSTANT. i'm coming from ruby. |
| 00:04:28 | Araq | yeah yeah yeah ... |
| 00:05:38 | imjoe` | LOL |
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| 00:06:01 | Araq | hi charlie__ welcome |
| 00:06:13 | charlie__ | I am demos |
| 00:06:21 | charlie__ | network issues |
| 00:07:33 | Araq | oh ok |
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| 00:48:26 | imjoe` | dom96: what is the best branches of nim and jester to use for handling routes async? |
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| 05:29:12 | boydgreenfield | Whoa… when did the name change? |
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| 07:24:09 | Araq | imjoe`: bigbreak (unfortunately) |
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| 09:26:40 | dom96 | imjoe`: bigbreak (nim) + newasync (jester) |
| 09:40:20 | imjoe` | thanks. i tried: (bigbreak) $ bin/nimrod c koch |
| 09:40:27 | imjoe` | lib/system.nim(478, 12) Error: invalid pragma: deprecated: [TObject: RootObj, etc.... |
| 09:40:56 | imjoe` | i'm gonna crash out. maybe it will work tomorrow. gnite all. |
| 09:48:28 | dom96 | You need to use the 'nim' binary |
| 09:48:38 | dom96 | bin/nim |
| 09:49:38 | imjoe` | there is no bin/nim |
| 09:50:19 | dom96 | you need to rebuild the C sources |
| 09:50:34 | dom96 | and you need to use the C sources on the bigbreak branch |
| 09:51:23 | dom96 | actually, the C sources create a 'nimrod' binary |
| 09:51:53 | dom96 | but you still need to switch to the bigbreak branch and build them |
| 09:52:18 | dom96 | Varriount_: Where is this script I asked you to make? |
| 09:52:22 | dom96 | bbl |
| 09:53:00 | imjoe` | ok. i did build them (build.sh was not executable btw if that matters so i did sh build.sh) |
| 10:12:37 | EXetoC | no it's just a shortcut; for sh scripts anyway |
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| 15:10:34 | dom96 | hello gelumelu |
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| 16:52:02 | enderoute | how do you get the current source code line number (ex __LINE__)? |
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| 16:56:28 | dom96 | enderoute: That's not currently possible. |
| 16:56:43 | dom96 | enderoute: best you can do is parse it out of getStackTrace |
| 16:57:13 | enderoute | dom96: cool, thanks |
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| 17:26:58 | enderoute | Can all things accomplished with macros be accomplished with templates? The macros tutorial has a call to macros.toStrLit, could this be called in a template? The macros example also is calling macros.toStrLit with an expr, but the proc says it takes a PNimrodNode. I’m a bit confused. |
| 17:28:30 | dom96 | I think expr/stmt are interchangeable with PNimrodNode. |
| 17:28:36 | dom96 | templates are more limited |
| 17:28:40 | dom96 | but they are also easier to use |
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| 17:30:09 | enderoute | dom96: so i’m trying to call macros.toStrLit in a template, is that possible? It seems like its already evaluated my statement because it says i’m sending in type bool not type PNimrodNode |
| 17:31:47 | dom96 | why do you want to use toStrLit in a template? |
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| 17:33:34 | enderoute | i’m implementing an assertion, i want it to print out the clause if it isn’t true |
| 17:34:06 | Jehan_ | templates and macros are fundamentally different. |
| 17:35:05 | Jehan_ | templates are the rough equivalent of C #defines, minus their nasty issues. |
| 17:35:31 | Jehan_ | macros contain code that will be executed at compile time and generate the code that will be inserted in their place. |
| 17:36:19 | Jehan_ | Calling toStrLit in a template is pointless, because the code will NOT be executed at compile time. |
| 17:36:43 | Jehan_ | templates simply substitute their content in place of the existing code. |
| 17:37:08 | enderoute | (defmacro foo (&body body) `(when (not ,body) (print ,(toString body))) i think that would be similar in common lisp |
| 17:37:30 | enderoute | hmm weird, since templates are getting expanded at compiletime, seems like they could do some calculations too at compile time |
| 17:38:37 | enderoute | ok, so I need to look into macros. I was just thinking templates was a nice way to avoid manipulating the AST, but functionally equivalent |
| 17:39:01 | dom96 | enderoute: We already have 'assert' and here is how it's implemented: https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/blob/devel/lib/system.nim#L2910 |
| 17:39:22 | EXetoC | he doesn't want just that though |
| 17:39:27 | EXetoC | but see the unittest module |
| 17:39:28 | Jehan_ | templates are basically common lisp macros restricted to the backquote version if that helps. |
| 17:39:39 | EXetoC | which might be buggy still, but the code should be relevant |
| 17:40:02 | dom96 | EXetoC: I think that is precisely what he wants? |
| 17:40:22 | Jehan_ | If you want to execute code at compile time, you'll need a macro definition. |
| 17:41:00 | dom96 | Jehan_: not quite true. You can execute code at compile time in other contexts. |
| 17:41:08 | dom96 | for example inside 'static' |
| 17:41:55 | Jehan_ | dom96: I meant for purposes of creating a macro. |
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| 17:43:30 | enderoute | dom96: thanks, i’m implementing my own unittest library to learn nimrod and play with the macros. its my first time writing nimrod so thanks for your guys help |
| 17:44:43 | dom96 | enderoute: Awesome. Feel free to ask as many questions as you wish :) |
| 17:57:36 | EXetoC | now I'm using macros again and I'm struggling with simply returning a string literal |
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| 18:02:57 | Araq | EXetoC: often a template + astToStr suffices |
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| 18:08:09 | enderoute | huzzah, here is what i wanted: |
| 18:08:14 | enderoute | macro ntassert*(clause: expr) : stmt = |
| 18:08:14 | enderoute | result = newNimNode(nnkStmtList) |
| 18:08:16 | enderoute | var raiser = newNimNode(nnkRaiseStmt) |
| 18:08:17 | enderoute | raiser.add(newCall("newTestFail", toStrLit(clause))) |
| 18:08:18 | enderoute | var notClause = newCall("not", clause) |
| 18:08:19 | enderoute | result.add(newIfStmt((notClause, raiser))) |
| 18:08:21 | enderoute | oops sorry |
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| 18:11:43 | EXetoC | Araq: I forgot to return expr |
| 18:12:20 | enderoute | it would be nice to be able to make this happen without trying to guess how nnkRaiseStmt works, if there was the ability weave templates with compiletime execution |
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| 18:12:47 | Araq | enderoute: some say that is what getAst was made for ... |
| 18:12:53 | EXetoC | enderoute: speaking of templates, you can get the AST node from a template/macro by calling getAst |
| 18:12:58 | EXetoC | :p |
| 18:13:08 | enderoute | cool i’ll check it out |
| 18:14:12 | EXetoC | once again the unittest modules has some examples, but it's not too difficult to figure out |
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| 18:20:50 | Jehan_ | enderoute: You may also want to look at the quote operator. |
| 18:21:14 | Araq | no, don't use quote |
| 18:21:19 | Araq | it's still very broken |
| 18:23:14 | Jehan_ | Oh, it is? |
| 18:23:43 | Jehan_ | Granted, I've used it only a couple of times, but it did work for me. |
| 18:23:51 | Jehan_ | Or at least didn't break in a visible way. :) |
| 18:27:09 | Araq | there is some issue wrt symbol binding |
| 18:27:16 | Araq | it defaults to gensym iirc |
| 18:27:23 | Araq | which is most often very confusing |
| 18:30:14 | Jehan_ | Oh, I see. |
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| 18:58:08 | Mat3 | hello |
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| 19:05:37 | dom96 | hey Mat3 |
| 19:07:03 | Mat3 | hello dom96 |
| 19:08:10 | dom96 | Mat3: Any progress on getting your code up on github? |
| 19:08:25 | Mat3 | before you ask: I have now a working server again and prepare my sources for upload (adding licence and some comments) |
| 19:08:40 | Mat3 | ok, to late |
| 19:08:44 | dom96 | hehe. |
| 19:08:59 | dom96 | Does that mean you will put it on github or just upload it to your server? |
| 19:10:09 | Mat3 | I upload it to my server and sync with my githup repro (well, that's the plan) |
| 19:12:30 | Mat3 | its an old repro from me, you can find the link here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/retro-10/pUKSYN4xSMQ |
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| 19:14:47 | Mat3 | sorrey github |
| 19:17:00 | dom96 | As long as it's on github then i'll be happy :P |
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| 19:20:10 | Mat3 | I had abandoned my github repro long time ago because of everlasting sync problems, bugs (which I hope are now fixed) and because I found Mercurial a better designed alternative |
| 19:21:59 | Mat3 | hmm, just notice that I should backup my old code there before uploading the current |
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| 19:31:54 | EXetoC | bugs? long time ago was it? |
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| 19:35:04 | Mat3 | yes |
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| 20:23:34 | dom96 | Araq: Any ideas what's wrong with docgen on bigbreak? |
| 20:25:18 | dom96 | oh, just an issue with CS. |
| 20:25:33 | dom96 | 'doc' gives an odd error though |
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| 20:31:34 | imjoe` | this is what happens when i try to make "bigbreak": https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f716693f0badf7d10471 |
| 20:32:01 | EXetoC | did you use the bigbreak branch of csources too? |
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| 20:33:15 | imjoe` | no. is there one?: csources (master) $ git checkout bigbreak |
| 20:33:15 | imjoe` | error: pathspec 'bigbreak' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 20:33:15 | imjoe` | |
| 20:33:27 | EXetoC | yes |
| 20:33:46 | EXetoC | I just cloned with '-b bigbreak' |
| 20:34:00 | EXetoC | I don't know how to do it the other way |
| 20:34:10 | EXetoC | fetch maybe |
| 20:36:36 | reactormonk | EXetoC, you want a new branch? git checkout -b bigbreak origin/bigbreak |
| 20:36:45 | imjoe` | that did it EXetoC! thank you! |
| 20:36:47 | reactormonk | ... maybe |
| 20:37:15 | reactormonk | works. |
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| 20:37:29 | reactormonk | git checkout -b bigbreak origin/bigbreak |
| 20:37:31 | reactormonk | Branch bigbreak set up to track remote branch bigbreak from origin by rebasing. |
| 20:38:16 | imjoe` | i wonder why "git checkout bigbreak" doesn't work when in the csources directory? |
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| 20:39:29 | dom96 | probably needed to pull |
| 20:39:40 | dom96 | as in just 'git pull' |
| 20:39:43 | dom96 | with no other params |
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| 20:42:37 | imjoe` | no, git pull doesn't do it. says "already up to date" cloning with -b bigbreak works though. someone should add it to the docs :-) |
| 20:43:05 | Jehan_ | bigbreak is temporary and bleeding edge, so not really the best idea. |
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| 20:44:28 | Jehan_ | Also, for what it's worth, "git checkout bigbreak" works for me. |
| 20:44:41 | Jehan_ | With a freshly cloned repository, though. |
| 20:45:24 | imjoe` | in the csources directory? after doing git clone --depth 1 git://github.com/nimrod-code/csources ? weird. maybe I have an old git |
| 20:46:50 | EXetoC | no I think he's referring to the compiler |
| 20:47:44 | imjoe` | oh. yes, it works for me in Nimrod directory as well. not in csources. |
| 20:48:17 | dom96 | Maybe the way Varriount introduced the branches means that you have to reclone |
| 20:48:32 | dom96 | Can you clone and then git checkout bigbreak? |
| 20:49:54 | EXetoC | it must be possible without cloning again |
| 20:50:21 | imjoe` | dom96: you mean for csources? no I can't. and i feel bad for github I have rm -rf Nimrod like 4 times today already :-P |
| 20:51:05 | EXetoC | apologize via email and it'll be fine |
| 20:52:05 | enderoute | i finally got what i wanted by combining macros, templates, and getAST, https://github.com/clarkeaa/nimrod-examples/blob/master/nimtests/nimtests.nim if you are interested. It looks like the re library is missing the ability to recall subpatterns, thats one more thing i ran into |
| 20:52:33 | Jehan_ | imjoe`: if you do --depth 1 you get a shallow clone that only contains the HEAD of master. |
| 20:52:46 | dom96 | oh yes. --depth 1 must be your problem |
| 20:52:54 | Jehan_ | imjoe`: If you want to get bigbreak that way, do: git clone --depth 1 -b bigbreak |
| 21:04:17 | imjoe` | ah. yes, getting rid of --depth 1 does it. thanks Jehan_ |
| 21:06:21 | EXetoC | I never cloned with depth though. oh well |
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| 21:54:39 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod bigbreak 6f155af Dominik Picheta [+0 ±7 -0]: Lots of documentation improvements for asyncdispatch.... 2 more lines |
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| 22:10:12 | imjoe` | jester (new-async) $ nim c jester.nim |
| 22:10:12 | imjoe` | Hint: system [Processing]; lib/system.nim(2442, 21) Error: redefinition of 'fileHandle' |
| 22:10:12 | imjoe` | |
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| 22:12:58 | dom96 | hrm, I get a different error |
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| 22:14:53 | dom96 | imjoe`: i'll fix it |
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| 22:16:49 | NimBot | dom96/jester new-async 4d1f1f5 Dominik Picheta [+0 ±3 -0]: bigbreak CS fixes. |
| 22:17:10 | NimBot | Araq/Nimrod bigbreak 37149dc Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: Fixes fdSet CS problems in asyncio. |
| 22:17:23 | dom96 | imjoe`: try now |
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| 22:21:16 | imjoe` | thanks. i'm on linux, maybe that's why different error? i git pulled on bigbreak and made a new nim and git pulled jester and same error is there |
| 22:22:09 | imjoe` | i wish it told us where fileHandle was first defined |
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| 22:26:32 | dom96 | imjoe`: well I compiled it with --os:linux and it compiled fine |
| 22:26:43 | dom96 | you sure you're not using an old stdlib? |
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| 22:26:52 | dom96 | likely nim is confusing them |
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| 22:31:05 | imjoe` | how do i find out? nim dump shows: /home/joe/nimbb/nim/lib and /home/joe/nimbb/nim is where the new nim was installed |
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| 22:53:02 | dom96 | imjoe`: hrm |
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| 22:53:32 | dom96 | imjoe`: you sure you've got both the latest jester and nim? |
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| 22:56:55 | dom96 | imjoe`: try doin -d:nimfix |
| 22:57:01 | dom96 | *doing |
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| 23:06:45 | imjoe` | nim -d:nimfix c jester.nim => jester.nim(3, 7) Error: cannot open 'asynchttpserver' |
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| 23:09:24 | dom96 | imjoe`: your nim is definitely using the wrong stdlib |
| 23:09:34 | EXetoC | um |
| 23:09:54 | EXetoC | I doubt I'm using the wrong one, and it's not here |
| 23:10:13 | EXetoC | no, wait |
| 23:10:18 | EXetoC | confusing |
| 23:11:19 | EXetoC | who knows where install.sh copied my asynchttpserver from |
| 23:12:42 | dom96 | Don't use install.sh |
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| 23:14:35 | imjoe` | hmm. perhaps i installed it wrong. the last 2 steps i did was: ./koch boot -d:release -d:useGnuReadline; ./koch install /home/joe/nimbb |
| 23:14:56 | dom96 | just add the bin dir to your PATH |
| 23:15:50 | imjoe` | and which nim returns /home/joe/nimbb/nim/bin/nim |
| 23:16:44 | EXetoC | either way, I don't know why asynchttpserver isn't in the nimrod dir |
| 23:16:48 | dom96 | i'm guessing koch install didn't install the cfg correctly or something |
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| 23:16:54 | dom96 | as well as the new modules |
| 23:16:56 | dom96 | (asynchttpserver) |
| 23:17:23 | dom96 | me and Araq don't use koch install |
| 23:17:45 | EXetoC | no in the dir where I invoked install.sh from |
| 23:17:46 | dom96 | So it's more reliable to do what we do: add Nim to your PATH. |
| 23:18:18 | dom96 | I can see it on github |
| 23:18:34 | dom96 | and it's even in the devel branch |
| 23:18:40 | dom96 | so I don't know what commit you're on |
| 23:18:57 | EXetoC | I'm not bigbreak |
| 23:20:19 | EXetoC | and it's there too apparently. odd |
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| 23:27:42 | imjoe` | ok. i changed my path to the git directory's bin. and now I'm getting further, a lot more depracated warnings but dying with: |
| 23:27:48 | imjoe` | lib/pure/asyncnet.nim(157, 59) Warning: use Port instead; TPort is deprecated [Deprecated] |
| 23:27:48 | imjoe` | SIGSEGV: Illegal storage access. (Attempt to read from nil?) |
| 23:27:48 | imjoe` | |
| 23:28:39 | dom96 | that's a compiler crash D: |
| 23:28:57 | imjoe` | trying with: nim -d:nimfix c jester.nim I get: |
| 23:29:07 | imjoe` | lib/pure/rawsockets.nim(255, 20) Error: expression 'Port(s.s_port)' cannot be called |
| 23:29:07 | imjoe` | |
| 23:29:18 | dom96 | bootstrap without -d:release to get a stack trace |
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| 23:33:00 | imjoe` | ok, created gist with backtrace: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/54d3050ebfa1de8f075c |
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| 23:41:41 | dom96 | imjoe`: looks like it can't open some file |
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| 23:44:46 | dom96 | imjoe`: try increasing verbosity, --verbosity:4 IIRC |
| 23:44:49 | dom96 | may tell you more |
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| 23:45:22 | dom96 | or you can edit pretty.nim to check what file it's trying to open |
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| 23:47:47 | imjoe` | ok i'll try that. verbosity didn't show the file. |
| 23:50:02 | imjoe` | so the very last "pretty" line that prints is: pretty: lib/pure/asyncdispatch.nim(1313,0) |
| 23:50:09 | imjoe` | that file does exist. |
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| 23:56:23 | dom96 | permission problems? |
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| 23:59:00 | imjoe` | everything looks good. but to be sure, i just tried as root. same prob. really weird. |
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