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00:57:35 | krux02 | why is this legal? let true = false |
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01:07:22 | ftsf_ | krux02, any reason why it shouldn't be? |
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01:17:52 | krux02 | ftsf_: yes, true and false should be literals like int, float or string literals, not symbols |
01:18:15 | csoriano_ | just realized is possible to do let test = @[] but it crashes nim? |
01:18:27 | csoriano_ | shouldn't be possible to initialize a seq with no items? |
01:18:57 | krux02 | csoriano_ you need a type for an emty sequence |
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01:19:15 | csoriano_ | aah |
01:25:58 | csoriano_ | krux02: however I cannot do that in an argument directly right? |
01:27:33 | csoriano_ | like call(age = 50, sequence = @[]); |
01:31:27 | mcc | krux02: huh. it seems like that shouldn't *crash* nim, right? |
01:32:29 | mcc | csoriano_: You can call somefunc(50, @[]) because it knows the arguments of somefunc's types already, you cannot define proc somefunc(age = 50, sequence = @[]) because it won't know what sequence's types are |
01:33:01 | csoriano_ | mcc: doesn't seems to be the case here |
01:33:24 | csoriano_ | I cannot call with somefunc(50, @[]) |
01:33:28 | csoriano_ | it crashes |
01:34:17 | mcc | csoriano: that should not cause a crash no matter what, even if something is wrong with your program |
01:34:17 | csoriano_ | wait, it crashes if I don't define what type of seq is in the proc either |
01:34:23 | csoriano_ | yeah I guess |
01:35:10 | mcc | csoriano_: i would suggest you try to write the smallest program that reproduces the problem and then submit it to https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues |
01:35:24 | csoriano_ | however I'm seeing that this crashes, and when using a linked list withouth initializing (but calling the allocation like LinkedList()) also crashes, so I wonder if those are all issues |
01:35:32 | mcc | and also possibly upgrade your Nim if it's not the newest |
01:35:39 | csoriano_ | mcc: it's HEAD |
01:35:43 | mcc | ah |
01:36:09 | mcc | looks like head is bugged |
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01:40:27 | krux02 | I just use newSeq[T](0), because it is a single expression, and brings the type with it. |
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01:43:59 | csoriano_ | newSeq[T](0)? is not seq supossed to use init? |
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03:34:20 | FromGitter | <endragor> funny how people think native apps are more secure than apps running in JS VM |
03:35:21 | Xe | personally i'd rather i just have Chrome installed once, but that's me |
03:35:24 | Xe | |
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07:32:02 | hohlerde | has anyone experienced false gc safe compiler errors in a thread context while using forward declarations? |
07:39:03 | FromGitter | <endragor> hohlrede: try to explictly mark the proc in question as `{.gcsafe.}` |
07:39:12 | FromGitter | <endragor> in its declaration |
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07:48:27 | hohlerde | endragor: thanks, marking the forward declaration {.gcsafe.} did the trick. |
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08:51:42 | FromGitter | <vegansk> Hm, why the pragma syntax with ommitted dot is allowed? I.e. ``{.gcsafe}`` |
08:52:46 | flyx | vegansk: I also wondered about that |
08:53:38 | FromGitter | <endragor> > pragma = '{.' optInd (exprColonExpr comma?)* optPar ('.}' | '}’) ⏎ it was made on purpose, but most likely only @Araq knows why :) |
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09:00:38 | FromGitter | <vegansk> What's better,``when defined(linux) and defined(i386)`` or ``when targetOS == OsPlatform.Linux and targetCPU == CpuPlatform.i386``? |
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09:02:19 | Raaaa | Second one is more readable. Where is defined OsPlatform? |
09:02:52 | FromGitter | <vegansk> @Raaaa, lib/system/platforms.nim |
09:03:09 | FromGitter | <vegansk> And it's included in system.nim |
09:03:57 | Raaaa | No docs for it |
09:04:32 | FromGitter | <vegansk> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/lib/system/platforms.nim |
09:04:46 | Raaaa | Thank you |
09:04:53 | cheatfate | @vegansk and what you want to make with defined(i386)? |
09:05:03 | flyx | can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with this code: https://gist.github.com/flyx/465f291a347181a0d3cccb52ed6d2509 |
09:05:25 | flyx | it works for trivial use cases, but I get a SEGFAULT when using it in NimYAML |
09:05:45 | FromGitter | <vegansk> @cheatfate, set different linker flags |
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09:07:56 | Raaaa | Do destructors actually work? |
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09:08:28 | FromGitter | <vegansk> @Raaaa, no. |
09:09:19 | FromGitter | <vegansk> That's why I use ref objects and finalizers in jnim library |
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09:37:39 | cheatfate | Araq, is it possible to bootstrap Nim with microsoft compiler? |
09:38:09 | Araq | I don't know. it used to be possible |
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10:03:47 | Raaaa | https://github.com/github/linguist/pull/3188#issuecomment-244610129 |
10:03:50 | Raaaa | Did they respond? |
10:04:31 | Raaaa | Nimrod, the programming language used in Nim. |
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11:31:36 | hohlerde | can use nested await's? it seems my inner await on an AsyncSocket.send blocks forever. |
11:32:44 | cheatfate | hohlerde, update your nim distro, please fix was made some hours ago |
11:33:58 | hohlerde | alright |
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11:45:34 | hohlerde | cheatfate: you mean Async: Get system backend handle. #4754? |
11:47:29 | cheatfate | hohlerde, https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/4758 |
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11:58:20 | hohlerde | thanks a lot cheatfate. that fixed it. |
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14:40:10 | antranigv | where an I read about nim libraries? |
14:40:40 | antranigv | like, requests, json parser maybe? and a DB connection like MySQL |
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14:42:23 | antranigv | yeey httpclient, ok that's done |
14:42:32 | antranigv | there's also json, eey |
14:42:51 | antranigv | ah there's also db_mysql |
14:43:01 | antranigv | hope it'll work for mariadb too! :)) |
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14:48:34 | hohlerde | take a look at http://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html |
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14:50:52 | hohlerde | antranigv: there is also http://nimble-explorer.com/ and you can also do an easy "nimble search <string>" |
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14:53:18 | antranigv | oly in ten years you guys have all this? |
14:55:41 | antranigv | hohlerde: and how is this working btw? |
14:56:17 | hohlerde | I am not sure if it is enough or not. the community is growing steadily and it all started with one person. |
14:56:32 | hohlerde | antranigv: what do you mean exactly? |
14:57:25 | gokr | Hard to say if its "good or bad" - but it's a pretty decent amount at least. |
14:57:27 | antranigv | hohlerde: 1) I'm amazed that only in ten years a "different" language has grown so fast 2) the website has some kind of a DB backend? or anyone can submit stuff to the db? |
14:57:27 | federico3 | hohlerde: and http://nimble.directory/ |
14:57:43 | gokr | I think my bash fu says nimble has 381 packages. |
14:58:32 | gokr | Some other languages have grown much faster - Go comes to mind for example. |
14:58:55 | antranigv | so we have this commecial network analyzing software for ISPs and IXPs, my boss said he's ok for me to rewrite it in another language for educational purposes |
14:58:56 | gokr | But the Nim community is fairly strong - and Nim can very easily wrap and reuse C/C++ which is a HUGE plus in my book. |
14:59:13 | gokr | antranigv: Hey, nice! |
14:59:16 | antranigv | I wanted either Go or Nim, but Nim is more Wirthian than Go |
14:59:23 | hohlerde | antranigv: oh, I am not an expert regarding the website, but it has a db backend. dom96 did most of the work afaik, but he's currently on a leave. you'll find the website and the forum also on github. |
14:59:30 | gokr | Nim is IMHO much more interesting than Go. |
14:59:43 | hohlerde | antranigv: I use both, go and nim. both have their pros and cons |
15:00:01 | gokr | I haven't used Go, so don't listen too closely on me :) |
15:00:05 | antranigv | 1 thing I LOVE is the `proc` keyword :D |
15:00:07 | gokr | But it doesn't tickle me. |
15:00:33 | antranigv | anyway, back to reading the 2 main docs, and then start coding |
15:00:42 | gokr | Btw, the book is almost complete I think |
15:00:56 | hohlerde | antranigv: there is also a book "Nim in Action" |
15:00:59 | gokr | Available as a MEAP thing |
15:01:03 | antranigv | aww, kewl |
15:01:04 | antranigv | MEAP? |
15:01:12 | gokr | Some kind of Early Access thing |
15:01:29 | antranigv | kewl |
15:01:50 | hohlerde | antranigv: https://www.manning.com/books/nim-in-action |
15:02:06 | gokr | antranigv: Welcome :) |
15:02:17 | antranigv | thanks awl! ^_^ |
15:02:41 | gokr | antranigv: And do ask stuff. It's a friendly channel. |
15:03:29 | * | hohlerde looks evil at gokr |
15:03:30 | gokr | What is that software written in now btw? |
15:03:33 | hohlerde | :-) |
15:03:53 | gokr | We are usually friendly at least :) |
15:04:32 | gokr | Araq can get a bit grumpy when he has too many beers - but you know, we forgive him ;) |
15:05:13 | Araq | I thought I'm grumpy when I had no beer. |
15:05:25 | gokr | Hehe, that might be it ;) |
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15:07:04 | hohlerde | gokr: "What is that software written in now btw?" <-- which software do you mean? |
15:07:24 | gokr | I mean't antranigv's software that he was going to rewrite. |
15:07:31 | hohlerde | ah |
15:07:39 | gokr | Or she. |
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15:10:07 | Araq | wtf, how come I didn't know about http://nimble-explorer.com/ ? |
15:10:16 | Araq | this thing needs to be on website |
15:10:44 | antranigv | gokr: ah, in Python |
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15:12:25 | hohlerde | araq: http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1878#11793 <-- nimble explorer |
15:13:07 | hohlerde | araq: and I didn't know about http://nimble.directory |
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15:24:38 | hohlerde | araq: so you just moved the code ... that was my initial approach :-) |
15:25:11 | Araq | .noSideEffect works with devel, but will cause bootstrapping problems |
15:25:21 | Araq | so this is the better solution. |
15:25:48 | Araq | last time I checked even 0.13 could compile devel. definitely some progress here on the compatibility front :-) |
15:26:29 | hohlerde | sounds good |
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15:27:21 | FromGitter | <xxlabaza> Hi all ⏎ Does anyone know any good rabbitmq client for Nim? |
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15:31:55 | FromGitter | <Araq> nimble only knows about https://github.com/nim-lang/nim-zmq |
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16:32:09 | baabelfish | Araq: Btw, why are we not using github's milestones? |
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