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| 00:58:49 | ryuo | how stable is nim's syntax and base APIs? |
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| 03:04:43 | onionhammer | the syntax is fairly stable, araq is overly paranoid about backwards compat for pre 1.0 |
| 03:05:28 | onionhammer | stuff gets added but rarely are there breaking changes |
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| 06:36:36 | gokr | Good morning nimsters! |
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| 06:38:45 | vegansk | Good morning! |
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| 06:42:35 | vegansk | Joke of the day from compiler: "Error: ambiguous call; both system.+(x: float, y: float) and system.+(x: float, y: float) match for: (float, float)" |
| 06:43:33 | gokr | Eh, he. |
| 06:52:31 | enamex_ | Generics playing games? |
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| 06:59:17 | vegansk | Yep :-) Trying to make minimal test |
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| 07:18:30 | vegansk | enamex_: By the way, nice title for the issue :-) |
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| 07:19:01 | enamex_ | X"D |
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| 09:39:20 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel bc725ea Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: documented void context |
| 09:39:20 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 31bbc24 Araq [+0 ±2 -0]: minor testsuite cleanup |
| 09:39:20 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 34ab1d3 Araq [+1 ±2 -0]: fixes #1528 |
| 09:39:20 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 63cdcb2 Araq [+0 ±3 -0]: implicit return types for iterators are now deprecated |
| 09:39:20 | NimBot | 14 more commits. |
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| 09:58:14 | kashyap_ | Hi there .... can someone please let me know where I can get ssleay64.dll? |
| 09:59:14 | Araq | kashyap_: one sec |
| 10:00:04 | kashyap_ | ok |
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| 10:01:03 | Araq | http://nim-lang.org/download/dlls.zip |
| 10:01:22 | kashyap_ | great ... thank you so much! |
| 10:02:33 | yglukhov | Could someone please remind me again if there's any way to define mutually recursive types in separate files? |
| 10:05:32 | Araq | yes, but it's hacky |
| 10:05:43 | vegansk | I have two types: Option[T] and List[T]. Why the compiler fails with message "Error: expression 'List' has no type (or is ambiguous)" on "type ListOpt[T] = Option[List[T]]"? |
| 10:05:55 | Araq | you need to use include instead of import |
| 10:06:04 | Araq | and {.noforward: on.} |
| 10:06:21 | Araq | and the defintions and includes must be top level statements |
| 10:08:10 | yglukhov | argh, include sounds waay hacky (( |
| 10:08:18 | Araq | vegansk: dunno |
| 10:09:52 | Araq | the other workaroudn is to use subtyping |
| 10:10:24 | Araq | ugh I broke 10 tests, including C++ codegen ... yay |
| 10:13:11 | vegansk | Araq: The only thing is that List type is imported |
| 10:13:40 | Araq | vegansk: well maybe it's ambiguous? |
| 10:14:55 | dom96 | vegansk: can you show us more of your code? |
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| 10:16:10 | vegansk | dom96: just a moment, cutting unneded |
| 10:22:23 | Araq | vegansk: just qualify the List like so lists.List |
| 10:22:30 | Araq | adn see what it changes |
| 10:25:20 | vegansk | Araq, dom96: I got it. The reason is in "import fp/List", after rename source to "fp/list.nim", all is fine. It's a bug or feature? |
| 10:25:36 | vegansk | *Is it |
| 10:26:57 | Araq | feature, except the error messages sucks |
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| 10:32:57 | vegansk | Araq: But there is no error while I use List[T] |
| 10:33:20 | Araq | that's a bug then :P |
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| 11:22:52 | softinio | why can't I do this: echo "Hello" & "world" |
| 11:23:16 | softinio | to print the concat of the two strings ? |
| 11:23:36 | wuehlmaus | try: echo( "hello" & "world") |
| 11:26:09 | softinio | that did it thanks |
| 11:26:51 | wuehlmaus | i myself asked a similar question not long ago. it's awesome that one doesn't nieed parentheses normally |
| 11:26:57 | wuehlmaus | need |
| 11:27:16 | softinio | its gonna take getting used to :-) |
| 11:27:44 | softinio | So in what situations do we have to use paranthesis |
| 11:28:11 | Araq | for nullary and unary calls in prefix notation |
| 11:28:56 | Araq | actually no, screw that |
| 11:29:27 | Araq | in an expression context for nullary and non-unary calls, in a statement for nullary calls |
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| 11:47:00 | vegansk | softinio: You can also use: echo "Hello ", "world", or even echo: "Hello " & "world" |
| 11:50:21 | vegansk | or use #!strongSpaces and then: echo "Hello "&"world" |
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| 12:03:05 | softinio | @vegansk thx |
| 12:03:45 | softinio | using vim for nim development. Good choice? |
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| 12:09:40 | vegansk | vim is cool, but when you need scala, vim fails with it. so I'm using emacs + evil mode. Evil mode creates vim from emacs :-) |
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| 12:11:22 | wuehlmaus | i am a die hard vim user, so i use vim for almost anything though i am very happy that there are alternatives like spacemacs, intellij, emacs and co |
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| 12:29:53 | Senketsu | sometimes i'm really stupid..arent i ? |
| 12:30:07 | Senketsu | jeez |
| 12:31:38 | Senketsu | Araq , pingu pingu |
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| 13:03:28 | softinio | does nim have any test framework like golang has? |
| 13:07:17 | reactormonk | softinio, there's unittest. |
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| 13:14:51 | softinio | great thx @reactormonk |
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| 13:35:22 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 29a9166 Araq [+0 ±3 -0]: fixes the most pressing regressions introduced by the new handling of a[i] in the compiler |
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| 14:40:59 | softinio | so if I want to run a command passing in env variables I assume I use this from osproc lib: |
| 14:41:08 | softinio | proc execProcess(command: string; args: openArray[string] = []; |
| 14:41:08 | softinio | env: StringTableRef = nil; options: set[ProcessOption] = { |
| 14:41:08 | softinio | poStdErrToStdOut, poUsePath, poEvalCommand}): TaintedString {.gcsafe, |
| 14:41:10 | softinio | extern: "nosp$1", tags: [ExecIOEffect, ReadIOEffect], raises: [Exception].} |
| 14:41:52 | softinio | my question is, is env parameter what I pass for the environment variables? |
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| 14:53:27 | dom96 | softinio: yes |
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| 15:38:45 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 2ffb385 Bruce Doan [+0 ±1 -0]: wait's input is nullable, and it is discardable |
| 15:38:45 | NimBot | nim-lang/Nim devel 671e5db Dominik Picheta [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge pull request #3331 from rgv151/patch-5... 2 more lines |
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| 16:38:08 | softinio | yesterday @Araq suggested its good practice to have a proc main() .... for the starting point to my app like its used in languages like C and Go |
| 16:38:39 | softinio | so was thinking about how I layout my code and is it good practice to call this main proc in a |
| 16:38:41 | softinio | when isMainModule: |
| 16:39:02 | softinio | sorry to ask silly questions |
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| 16:49:40 | Senketsu | dom96, uhh you want me to name the modules (assuming i name the package 'ndbex' ndbex_* ? |
| 16:50:10 | dom96 | no, I want you to put the modules in a 'ndbex' dir |
| 16:50:33 | Senketsu | ooh, tough src is okay, aight |
| 16:51:00 | dom96 | The reason for this is so that your module's don't clash with other package's modules |
| 16:51:12 | dom96 | You will import them via: import ndbex/module |
| 16:51:17 | dom96 | instead of 'import module' |
| 16:51:25 | Senketsu | gotcha |
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| 16:54:09 | Senketsu | so i assume i need to rename the nimble file too right ? |
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| 17:00:56 | Senketsu | hope its fine now |
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| 17:12:19 | Senketsu | dom96, or you meant /src/ndbex/modules.nim and point nimble file to src dir .. sorry im such a bother |
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| 17:23:27 | Araq | softinio: what is your question? |
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| 17:45:05 | softinio | @Araq think I figured it out so nvm thx |
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| 18:16:03 | Mat4 | hello |
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| 18:20:45 | Araq | hi mat4 |
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| 18:24:21 | Mat4 | hi Araq, I want to compile Nim with clang, whereupon should I pay attention ? |
| 18:25:14 | Araq | edit your config to set cc=clang |
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| 18:27:18 | Mat4 | that's all ? well, that's nice |
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| 18:43:50 | federico3 | Any fast way to create a string from an array of chars and viceversa? |
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| 18:44:38 | Araq | federico3: not really. but you can use a string as an array. s[i] |
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| 18:46:16 | federico3 | Even write to an index in an empty string? |
| 18:46:56 | Araq | setLen()? |
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| 18:54:28 | Mat4 | in realtion to the utilities for wrapping C libraries. Does someone know SWIG ? http://www.swig.org/compare.html |
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| 18:59:02 | Araq | yes, I tried to adapt it before writing c2nim |
| 18:59:44 | Araq | c2nim is light years ahead now. |
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| 19:03:20 | Mat4 | ok, so I use c2nim |
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| 19:11:42 | Araq | hi cold_sauce welcome |
| 19:12:12 | cold_sauce | hey! thanks! I'm looking to learn Nim it looks so awesome! |
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