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04:55:56FromDiscord<that_dude.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=KhLWKsMi
04:57:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's a compiler bug so yes it should be reported
04:57:22FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> But you do not want to do \`cast[ptr BaseStateRef](addr result.stateRef)
04:57:59FromDiscord<that_dude.> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XBNgRgFI
04:58:08FromDiscord<that_dude.> Is that another bug then?
04:58:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No you should do `(ptr BaseStateRef)(result.stateReff.addr)`
04:59:29FromDiscord<that_dude.> `result.setup = () {.nimcall.} => setup((ptr BaseStateRef)(result.stateRef.addr))`↵gives error↵`Error: type mismatch: got 'ptr typeof(result.stateRef)' for 'addr(result.stateRef)' but expected 'ptr BaseStateRef'`
04:59:41FromDiscord<that_dude.> Which seems to be the same error
05:00:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You actually should be using object types and ref types
05:00:51FromDiscord<that_dude.> I don't understand
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05:01:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> then it's `(ptr MyObject)(result.stateRef[].addr)`
05:01:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vKpmnrmS
05:03:19FromDiscord<that_dude.> I'm not sure I can do that. Wouldn't state destruct at the end of the scope?
05:03:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> ptr's don't invoke destructors
05:04:10FromDiscord<that_dude.> But they also don't prolong the life right? Because state is created in the initModule scope so it should die after it ends
05:04:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Right
05:04:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You're the one using ptrs so I was uncertain what you were trying to do
05:04:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you want to skip closures you have to pass state into the function
05:05:06FromDiscord<that_dude.> I may be tired sorry, I'm trying to keep everything together
05:05:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `proc() {.nimcall.}` means you cannot use local variables in the function
05:06:48FromDiscord<that_dude.> I do get that, it's just that I need to find a way for a proc to have access to the module state, but for it to work with Malebolgia, it must be a nimcall
05:06:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=kiBEofJD
05:07:45FromDiscord<that_dude.> Maybe I just don't use Malebolgia and try a different threading solution that may not have that restriction
05:09:34FromDiscord<that_dude.> Well specifically, for me to be able to spawn a thread with Malebolgia, I need to be able to `isolate(Module)` and it doesn't permit closures. That's what I'm currently stuck at
07:23:06FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> is there a standard/best practice way to have a signal/observer pattern in Nim? Should I just be using threads/channels?
07:38:26FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> I've previously used this sort of thing with Swift - https://github.com/artman/Signals but I'm not sure it will work as well without weak references
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08:28:38strogon14https://nimpkgs.dayl.in/#/pkg/sigils
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10:18:25FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> strogon14: thanks, I saw sigil, but was hoping for something a bit lighter. I've now gone down a whole other rabbit-hole trying to get libdispatch and the LLVM blocks runtime working on Linux
10:27:59FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> If anyone can explain this to me it would be awesome 🙂 https://pasty.ee/vXBHMUHg
10:28:21FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> trying to link with the blocks runtime but the symbols the linker says are missing are all there
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10:32:07FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> ah, I needed to use the lld linker as well
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10:51:07FromDiscord<.tokyovigilante> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=UFAahPLx
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12:41:21FromDiscord<albassort> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vMFBWMxY
12:41:41FromDiscord<albassort> doing.addr is ugly
12:43:25FromDiscord<albassort> I fear that guy's entire project design might be over complicating something, and I think i found the one guy who needs std/Taasks
12:43:29FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "std/Taasks" => "std/Tasks"
12:43:43FromDiscord<albassort> @that_dude. check out std/Tasks see if they would help this
12:44:13FromDiscord<albassort> you can create type safely in the task instead of trying to force it into a nimcall
12:44:20FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "you can create type safely in the task instead of trying to force it into a nimcall ... " added "anonymously"
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13:41:53FromDiscord<that_dude.> In reply to @albassort "<@532751332445257729> check out std/Tasks": Thanks for the suggestion, I think I looked into this, but tasks couldn't fulfill the isolation check when I tried it. That said, I discovered that I had misunderstood createThread in that the argument passed to the calling function can be an object that contains closures. So I think I figured it out
13:42:44FromDiscord<albassort> keep in mind closures are slow
13:43:08FromDiscord<that_dude.> In reply to @albassort "I fear that guy's": I promise it's not an overcomplicated archetecture for the game thing I'm doing https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1406634451030511658/image-8.png?ex=68a32deb&is=68a1dc6b&hm=fa1610f2e945118bc1ad11b6ca03c40edd7c1eb6adf397ec89927f40467ffcfb&
13:44:34FromDiscord<that_dude.> I think I can bite the closure bullet. It shouldn't be too bad. I mean I have a sleep(1) in all of my main loops atm so they burn too many cycles
13:44:59FromDiscord<that_dude.> (edit) "promise" => ""promise""
13:45:25FromDiscord<albassort> i think I understand what you're going for 🫡
13:45:45FromDiscord<that_dude.> :salute:
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14:05:23FromDiscord<albassort> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=FphBGnvc
14:05:30FromDiscord<albassort> i did not know this compiled
14:14:44FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> i did↵(@albassort)
14:16:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `toSeq(DepositType)` also works
14:16:38FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> But yeah, `items` is implemented on enums, it's cool
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14:18:40FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @Robyn "`toSeq(DepositType)` also works": well if you can iterate you can sequtils
14:18:46FromDiscord<albassort> i had a meme in my brain about sequitls but its gone now
14:18:55FromDiscord<albassort> i was gonna make it just for beef
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14:21:34madpropsimagine dreaming with sequtils
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14:24:16FromDiscord<kentrid> A short Nim-related post got into the top on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44931415
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14:43:00FromDiscord<albassort> i dont wanna know what it says
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15:02:57FromDiscord<leorize> note that directly linking might cause it to be down ranked if many people interact via the ink↵(@kentrid)
15:04:37FromDiscord<kentrid> Is this still true today? I think it's one of those rumors, especially since the post already had 30+ upvotes when I linked it here.
15:13:08FromDiscord<leorize> I can't tell if it's true, actually
15:13:28FromDiscord<leorize> the rumor stuck around, so maybe there's some merit to it
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15:24:29FromDiscord<albassort> how cani prevent floats from using scientific notation
15:24:40FromDiscord<albassort> inserting SE into my databases >:(
15:24:50FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "SE" => "SN"
15:25:45FromDiscord<albassort> not sure if selection bias applies to rumors btw
15:26:01FromDiscord<albassort> or natural selection rather
15:29:36FromDiscord<albassort> aha
15:32:35FromDiscord<albassort> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XkottgsJ
15:33:11FromDiscord<albassort> though its not working, perhaps its the database
15:33:36FromDiscord<albassort> whatever
15:33:45FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "whatever ... " added "im too lazy to update all the db calls"
15:33:52FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "whatever im too lazy to update all the db calls ... " added "or make a trigger"
15:33:59FromDiscord<albassort> or am i
15:37:33FromDiscord<albassort> i hope parsefloat handles SE
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20:01:24FromDiscord<thearchivalone> Sqlite support is pretty good. I've never implemented it before but getting it working like I wanted took only a few hours. Now base64 encoding is where I'm currently reaching interesting quirks. Ha
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20:47:06FromDiscord<albassort> In reply to @bugcrowd_tao "Sqlite support is pretty": should be in a data
20:47:16FromDiscord<albassort> oh wait
20:47:19FromDiscord<albassort> no in data it wants binary
20:47:23FromDiscord<albassort> just keep it as a string
20:47:47FromDiscord<albassort> (edit) "just keep it as a string ... " added "TEXT"
20:54:05FromDiscord<thearchivalone> What are you referring to?
20:55:53FromDiscord<thearchivalone> Base64 encoded strings were printing out wrong, so I moved away from it. They worked all right for awhile in SQLite
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22:34:39FromDiscord<captainbuckkets> Is NIM currently usable with WASM. Lots of the repos I saw looked old (5-7 years)
22:36:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> YES
23:03:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @captainbuckkets "Is NIM currently usable": It's just 'Nim', not all caps btw
23:04:33FromDiscord<captainbuckkets> Okay, sorry
23:04:38FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> But you do have two options:↵1. Use Nlvm, which is a LLVM backend maintained by arnetheduck↵2. Use Clang/Emscripten as the C compiler for Nim
23:04:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @captainbuckkets "Okay, sorry": All good, don't sweat it
23:05:28FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "But you do have": also, I'd recommend the second purely because you'd be able to get much more help and can still use C libraries easily
23:05:40FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> (edit) "In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "But you do have": also, I'd recommend the second purely because you'd be able to get much more help and can still use ... C" added "wrapped" | removed "easily"
23:10:37FromDiscord<captainbuckkets> Yeah can use the second. Seems safest
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