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| 03:19:35 | Varriount_ | cheatfate: Whatcha making? |
| 03:20:10 | cheatfate | Finishing my kqueue.nim already needs only macos compilation tests |
| 03:20:53 | cheatfate | "whatcha?" what does it mean? |
| 03:31:28 | kulelu88 | what are you |
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| 03:31:45 | kulelu88 | colloquial american |
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| 04:07:26 | francisl | is the windows version supposed to work? I trying to build getting started stuff. It compiles but failed to execute |
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| 11:03:53 | cheatfate | Araq, i know you are busy, but do you receive my night staff? |
| 11:04:23 | Araq | yes, but I'm really busy indeed |
| 11:05:28 | baabelfish | Can i somehow get the ast of a module/file? |
| 11:10:55 | Araq | baabelfish: parseStmt + slurp in a macro |
| 11:11:08 | Araq | but it's bad style. |
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| 11:20:33 | baabelfish | Araq: I'm thinking of creating "show ast" command for vim |
| 11:21:44 | Araq | baabelfish: sounds more like you want to add a feature to nimsuggest then |
| 11:23:53 | reactormonk | baabelfish, you could also dump it in a nim file and prepend dumpTree |
| 11:23:55 | baabelfish | Araq: sounds like a plan |
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| 12:29:52 | francisl | Hey guys, based on the 1.0 Roadmap, there is only two things left to reach a stable 1.0. Is that correct? |
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| 12:35:03 | Araq | ha, I wish. |
| 12:35:14 | Araq | the roadmap is not up to date |
| 12:35:55 | Araq | and this whole "version 1.0" business ... well. we have good backwards compatibility and at the same time push the language forward |
| 12:37:51 | francisl | another question, I have no problem compiling and running nim on my mac. Yesterday I tried on windows. It seems to compile fine, but he executable just hang in the console. |
| 12:38:21 | francisl | So I reduce the code down to a simple `hello world`, even that was not working |
| 12:38:55 | francisl | Is there a special steps to do after installing the nim from the installer? |
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| 12:44:13 | enthus1ast | francisl: i had similar problems with the 64 bit version |
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| 12:44:40 | francisl | exactly, was running 64bit also |
| 12:46:31 | francisl | is there a solution? is it a know problem? |
| 12:48:08 | enthus1ast | my "solution" was to install 32bit.... |
| 12:49:20 | francisl | ok, thanks |
| 12:53:00 | Araq | fyi 64 bit works fine for me |
| 12:56:42 | francisl | Windows 10 on Intel CPU? |
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| 13:13:47 | dom96 | enthus1ast: francisl: that's an odd bug. Have you tried bootstrapping Nim manually in 64bit mode? I would be curious to know whether that also results in the same bug. If not then we have a problem with the installer. |
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| 13:15:42 | enthus1ast | can't test it right now i'm at work |
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| 13:33:09 | Araq | francisl: yeah, I'm on Win 10 |
| 13:34:08 | gmpreussner | i'm running 64-bit Nim on Windows 10, but I didn't use the installer |
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| 13:35:07 | Araq | he he he |
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| 14:06:40 | francisl | I’m not surprise! But maybe there is something wrong with the 64bit built for windows |
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| 17:56:16 | dom96 | ldlework: how's dadren going? |
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| 18:05:31 | cheatfate | looking for OSX guys to compile test |
| 18:06:15 | ldlework | dom96: I stopped to learn opengl |
| 18:06:23 | ldlework | so I can write an efficient sprite graph |
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| 18:06:41 | dom96 | cheatfate: I can test on OSX if you want :) |
| 18:06:45 | dom96 | ldlework: cool |
| 18:07:10 | cheatfate | https://gist.github.com/cheatfate/c7cddb67585b7daf6a9d |
| 18:07:29 | cheatfate | dom96, could you please test to compile selectors.nim with this kqueue.nim |
| 18:08:02 | dom96 | sure |
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| 18:15:15 | dom96 | cheatfate: seems to be working fine, all tests except tests/async/tasynceverror.nim pass. Although that test also fails in the previous kqueue implementation. |
| 18:15:51 | cheatfate | ok, i'l check it |
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| 18:21:41 | cheatfate | dom96, is there any command to run this tests on my bsd's farm? |
| 18:21:56 | dom96 | cheatfate: ./koch tests cat async |
| 18:22:11 | dom96 | thanks for checking |
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| 18:30:15 | cheatfate | openbsd do not like sprintf's and predictable random() :) |
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| 18:44:57 | dom96 | Can anybody ensure this works on older Linux kernel's? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/3648 |
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| 19:07:59 | cheatfate | SO_REUSEPORT will not work on kernels prior 3.9 |
| 19:08:41 | dom96 | Yeah, but programs will also not compile even if it's not used |
| 19:08:45 | dom96 | because of the include |
| 19:08:59 | dom96 | 'SO_REUSEPORT* {.importc, header: "<sys/socket.h>".}: cint' |
| 19:09:03 | cheatfate | you are right |
| 19:09:19 | dom96 | Any ideas how to resolve that problem? |
| 19:10:21 | cheatfate | do we have something like "check header for #define or symbol"? |
| 19:10:31 | dom96 | Don't think so |
| 19:11:29 | cheatfate | Then we can add this but commented... because there so many 2.6.x kernels |
| 19:12:53 | cheatfate | dom96, but you know you already broke support for kernels prior 2.6.9 in selectors |
| 19:13:17 | dom96 | cheatfate: because of epoll? |
| 19:13:18 | cheatfate | dom96, http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/epoll_ctl.2.html#BUGS |
| 19:13:57 | dom96 | ahh, but that's only a problem when using selectors on kernels before 2.6.9 |
| 19:14:31 | dom96 | should probably fix that anyway though |
| 19:16:50 | cheatfate | freebsd/openbsd/macosx tests passed only one error in tasynceverror.nim |
| 19:17:28 | cheatfate | but netbsd not passed tasyncudp.nim (unhandled exception: msgCount == 200 * serverCount * 5 [AssertionError]) |
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| 19:28:59 | cheatfate | dom96, you need to remove your tasynceverror.nim test because it can't be completed... |
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| 19:30:42 | cheatfate | dom96, because you 1. closing client connection 2. adding kqueue EVFILT_WRITE to kqueue when second end of this socket is already closed... so you will never get EV_ERROR and only Bad File Descriptor will be available on this test |
| 19:31:39 | dom96 | cheatfate: I didn't write the test originally. |
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| 19:32:57 | dom96 | Might be worth looking into the history behind that test to see if a more accurate one can be created |
| 19:32:59 | dom96 | or ask https://github.com/l04m33 directly |
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| 19:33:47 | cheatfate | to get EV_ERROR you need to add EVFILT_WRITE(2) BEFORE closing client connection(1), so kqueue will return you ERROR on your accepted socket (about disconnect) |
| 19:35:08 | cheatfate | for me asyncdispatch.nim (end of file) is macro magic, and i can't understand it |
| 19:43:53 | cheatfate | with my kqueue.nim netbsd is works much better but not good enough :) |
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| 19:55:46 | cheatfate | tasyncudp.nim is using asyncio.nim (i thought it already dead), am i wrong? |
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| 20:00:30 | Arrrr | isn't len for enums supported? |
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| 20:06:39 | dom96 | cheatfate: good point, asyncio is dead. |
| 20:07:08 | dom96 | Arrrr: maybe 'high()'? |
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| 20:20:09 | Varriount_ | dom96: high() won't work for enums with holes though... |
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| 20:31:29 | Arrrr | high + 1 is an alternative, i find strange there is not a len |
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| 21:08:22 | flyx | I am getting a strange IOError in my code: Error: unhandled exception: cannot open: yaml-dev-kit/R4YG/=== [IOError] |
| 21:08:40 | flyx | the file exists and is readable, I attempt to read it. what can be the problem? |
| 21:10:05 | flyx | I use readFile() and it works with a lot of previous files |
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| 21:21:10 | flyx | ah, I had too much input streams open |
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| 21:24:58 | cheatfate | got this "stdlib_math.c:(.text+0x894): warning: warning: rand() may return deterministic values, is that what you want?" |
| 21:25:07 | cheatfate | when compiling in openbsd |
| 21:25:19 | cheatfate | do we use rand()? |
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| 23:31:25 | Varriount | cheatfate: The math module does. |
| 23:32:11 | cheatfate | i think we need replace it with something more reliable like random(), but need to check all systems |
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| 23:36:14 | cheatfate | but it looks its more complex staff than i thought... random() is present in open/free/net bsd's and my linux also, but linux wants to use random_r in multithreaded environment |
| 23:36:31 | cheatfate | bsd systems doesnt have random_r |
| 23:36:41 | nchambers | does bsd have /dev/urandom? |
| 23:38:27 | cheatfate | all my farm (openbsd,freebsd,netbsd,linux) has /dev/urandom |
| 23:38:52 | nchambers | you can pull from that |
| 23:43:37 | cheatfate | its a system staff, i dont know if it will be goot to pull data from /dev/urandom every time somebody call rand() |
| 23:43:53 | nchambers | eh yeah |
| 23:44:05 | nchambers | maybe /dev/random and just warn if it starts blocking? |
| 23:44:10 | cheatfate | i even dont know is there c_* staff available to open/read/close |
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| 23:55:39 | Varriount | cheatfate: You know there are other PRNG's in the stdlib. |
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| 23:57:59 | cheatfate | Yeah i think there many, but the problem is that somebody from maintainers must declare/describe what systems we support from what kernel/os versions, and than we can start to search for suitable PRNG |
| 23:59:41 | cheatfate | if somebody starts to build their own game machines and/or casinos i think they are using their own PRNG, and will not use simple random... also crypto staff is always comes with some CPRNGs |