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00:08:28 | libman | What is currently the most full-featured code editor / IDE for Nim (including online ones)? |
00:10:22 | libman | I have to end my fling with Atom in preparation to going back to FreeBSD. None of the chromium-based editors are supported on BSD. :( Gave Aporia another try, and it seems to be missing A LOT compared to Atom's nim packages... (Or maybe I'm overlooking something?) |
00:13:08 | libman | nimedit doesn't start: "lib/system/sysio.nim(244, 9) Error: cannot open 'system/widestrs'" |
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06:30:50 | dom96 | libman: what is Aporia missing in comparison to Atom? |
06:31:07 | dom96 | (I'm surprised you're willing to try it, it's GPL :P) |
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17:32:24 | GustavoLapasta | I wanted to tinker with some GUI lib, in the docs page it seems the only officially supported option is iup. am I correct? |
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17:39:20 | libman | I think the whole "GUI lib" paradigm is a bit outdated. When people develop something that's neither for the console nor browser, they don't have the same needs as they did back in the 90s when that paradigm came about. |
17:39:53 | okami | what's changed? |
17:40:15 | libman | The Web revolution and the mobile revolution. |
17:41:05 | libman | s/Web/in-browser client-side capability/ |
17:42:14 | GustavoLapasta | ok, I want to draw some native windows and populate them with native widgets, just to experiment. What NIM library would you recommend? |
17:42:29 | libman | You build an App that fits those standards, a billions of people can access it by following a link - no need to worry about installers, native packages, compiling from source, etc. |
17:43:50 | GustavoLapasta | is it correct to assume that Iup is to Nim what TKinter is for Python? |
17:44:37 | libman | Yes, HTML5 GUIs have limitations, but with something like Godot (in theory) you can make an App that runs on Android / iOS, and every desktop / laptop OS from Windows to BSD to Haiku. I hope that's what Nim will focus on. There's already nimx. |
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17:45:30 | federico3 | GustavoLapasta: https://github.com/nim-lang/gtk2 ? |
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17:45:32 | libman | I think Nim's GTK bindings get more use (ex. Aporia) than IUP. |
17:45:48 | libman | But as a Copyfree zealot I'm not a fan of this, of course. ;) |
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17:58:32 | elrood | you could at least have pointed him to https://github.com/nim-lang/ui instead of chasing him away. although with a bit of effort one could have discovered that oneself, of course |
17:59:59 | chemist69 | +1 for ui and libui! |
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18:07:52 | federico3 | that libui looks very interesting especially given that Nim can target js as well |
18:26:18 | chemist69 | Yes, I have already written some small programsusing it and successfully compiled them on Linux and for Windows. |
18:26:39 | chemist69 | And they look native on each plaform |
18:27:55 | libman | My bad, I didn't mean to "chase him away" with my rant. iup and gtk bindings were already mentioned. I mentioned nimx. I didn't know about libui. |
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18:33:05 | libman | GustavoLapasta: https://github.com/nim-lang/ui |
18:33:26 | libman | https://github.com/VPashkov/awesome-nim#gui needs to be updated. |
18:33:50 | GustavoLapasta | ty libman |
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18:39:36 | libman | GustavoLapasta: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Window_creation#Nim contains examples for gtk2, sdl, x11, glut, windows, and iup bindings. |
18:40:14 | libman | Nim & QML - http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/692 |
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19:07:48 | GustavoLapasta | https://github.com/nim-lang/ui seems promising, where can I find the libs to make it work? like ui.dll for windows or libui.so for linux |
19:08:51 | chemist69 | https://github.com/andlabs/libui |
19:10:44 | GustavoLapasta | ty chemist69 |
19:13:05 | chemist69 | if you use the pre-compiled release binaries, use the alpha 3.0 release, not the newest 3.1, because the latter was accidentally compiled in debug mode. |
19:15:10 | GustavoLapasta | i was planning to compile the github repos, since they are all non-final libs |
19:16:07 | chemist69 | even better... |
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19:57:17 | dom96 | If anybody still is looking to buy Nim in Action, it's 50% off right now with code pbbutcherlt https://manning.com/books/nim-in-action?a_aid=niminaction&a_bid=78a27e81 |
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