<< 20-02-2024 >>
00:00:04FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @asviest "ok, is the penultimate": https://github.com/heysokam/slate/blob/master/src/slate/nimc.nim↵you can get an answer to this question by inspecting some test code with this set of tools
00:01:56FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> I know some fields in the AST are kept empty in some cases, as they are not used for that specific thing↵but if you inspect the raw AST, before semantics, you will be able to see how the ast as it is understood by the parser↵unknown fields make a lot more sense in the raw ast, as the syntax itself supports more things than Nim uses
00:02:16FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> (edit) "thing↵but" => "thing but used in others↵but"
00:02:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You can just use `macros.dumptree`
00:02:42FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @Elegantbeef "You can just use": that doesn't show the syntax of illegal code, does it?
00:02:54FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> dumptree shows the ast of any parsable code
00:03:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> it's practically `dumpTree(t: untyped) = echo t.repr`
00:03:11FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> oh well, then that's much easier to inspect, yeah
00:03:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `t.treerepr`\
00:03:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I say practically but `macro dumpTree(s: untyped): untyped = echo s.treeRepr` is the actual implementation
00:05:11FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> the functions I linked mirror `treeRepr` behavior, so they should be practically equivalent then
00:11:30FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> The temptation to work on an alternative docs layout for Nim
00:11:32FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Hmmm
00:12:59FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Docgen is only a few thousuand lines of code, how hard could it be to modify 😛
00:15:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Indeed!
00:17:09FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I wonder if doing it from scratch is worth it :P
00:17:11FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Probably not
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01:21:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I wonder if there's a use for converting the Nim AST to a JSON file
01:25:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Slow and ugly IC
01:44:13FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Lol true
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01:59:38FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Nim AST to MC datapacks
01:59:41FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> That'd be horrific
02:13:26FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "I wonder if there's": YES
02:14:50FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> not being forced to use nim-rst formatting, or regular markdown, and not generating docs with nim's docgen setup↵i was trying to create some form of custom documentation generator that had the features that I wanted, but its hardlocked behind missing that feature
02:16:21FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair
02:19:59FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> @Robyn [She/Her] https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1192072359629303870
02:20:06FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> (edit) "@Robyn [She/Her] ... https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1192072359629303870" added "See:"
02:21:19FromDiscord<MDuardo> I would like Nim docgen to let you style it like you can in Pandoc or R Markdown
02:21:27FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> That makes sense
02:24:21FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "I wonder if there's": I think this shouldn't be too hard to do with the raw parser/ast↵I thought about it before, but I just never find the time. Too much todo tasks in my list 😔
02:24:36FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> (edit) "much" => "many"
02:25:40FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Yeah fair
02:25:48FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I'm thinking about it now :p
02:27:48FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> @ping me if you make it. because I really really want that feature
02:38:56FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair, I'll try to remember if I do do something with that
02:43:01FromDiscord<intellij_gamer> In reply to @chronos.vitaqua "The temptation to work": You can make a `nimdoc.cfg` file in your project and change some settings to change most of the layout.↵https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/config/nimdoc.cfg↵↵Or use use the jsondoc output and build your html from that
02:46:04FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ooh neat
02:52:07FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @intellij_gamer "You can make a": much closer to what they are thinking of yeah. ty amadan ✍️
02:56:26FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I was thinking of using the AST to be able to reference symbols from other modules honestly
02:56:48FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> PMunch aaaand someone else I can't remember was talking about it as a possible improvement for the JSON docs
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07:00:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh jeez
07:00:09FromDiscord<fosster> AHAHAH sorry for the long copy past but it's a lot of code
07:00:38FromDiscord<fosster> if you can suggest me a pastebin I'd be glad to paste it there
07:00:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I mean the playground has one
07:00:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd also suggest you stop using macros
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07:01:03FromDiscord<fosster> why?
07:01:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cause that's not a macro
07:01:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's a proc
07:01:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You gained no benefit from using a macro
07:01:54FromDiscord<fosster> I could not find a way to do it properly with a function since I need different variables and stuff like that
07:02:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You quite literally remade templates
07:02:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> A proc would work fine
07:02:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=vCaKusZnFhjb
07:02:43FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though the code is still quite ugh
07:03:08FromDiscord<fosster> https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=LqKMsiWmqFUt
07:03:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I guess I didn't add another parameter, but just pass it and do `when withInfoDictHash` when accessing
07:03:53FromDiscord<fosster> thank you, as soon as I can I'll test it and integrate it
07:06:42FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> And cause I'm silly I'd suggest to refactor that try except stuff like so https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=UWnFRjHVRVsU
07:07:25FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=TfcFYwDyICVu
07:07:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=KNUUeuHCvXro
07:19:21FromDiscord<bung8954> does nim has build time constant?
07:19:44FromDiscord<bung8954> i mean for my program
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07:34:00FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @bung8954 "does nim has build": `const`?
07:34:22FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> `const` is compile time immutable↵`let` is runtime immutable
07:34:34FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> (edit) "immutable" => "immutable↵`var` is mutable"
07:34:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They mean the time the program was compiled I assume
07:35:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The answer is `CompileTime`
07:37:25FromDiscord<bung8954> ty
07:54:35FromDiscord<bung8954> is there asymmetric cryptography lib?
08:38:50FromDiscord<nnsee> there is constantine
08:48:39FromDiscord<bung8954> it seems it only support sha256 and sysrand
08:51:29FromDiscord<nnsee> well what exactly are you looking for?
08:52:17FromDiscord<bung8954> similar to rsa that support public key and private key
08:57:29FromDiscord<nnsee> does it need to be pure nim? or will a binding library do?
08:57:31FromDiscord<nnsee> something like https://github.com/FedericoCeratto/nim-libsodium
09:07:00FromDiscord<bung8954> yeah, it provide public key crypto, I'd prefer pure nim lib, it will be used in my desktop app, if there's no one I'll try this, thanks!
09:11:02FromDiscord<nnsee> unfortunately I don't think there are pure nim crypto libs that provide something like rsa. I might be wrong here though There is `nimcrypto`, but... it doesn't seem to have any either
09:14:58FromDiscord<bung8954> seems fine for now, looks like only need ship with libsodium and the site provide prebuild dlls download
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10:41:39FromDiscord<bung8954> duuno why sometimes case expression not work
10:47:41FromDiscord<penguinite> Does anyone have an idea where a nim compiler gets `$lib` from? and if it's possible to change it? I am trying to debug the install script.
10:47:41FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @bung8954 "duuno why sometimes case": any example?
10:49:08FromDiscord<bung8954> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=XHIyEkmYuuUr
10:49:33FromDiscord<bung8954> Error: expression '".exe"' is of type 'string' and has to be used (or discarded)
10:50:36FromDiscord<demotomohiro> In reply to @pengwyns "Does anyone have an": You can add nim module search path with `--path` option: https://nim-lang.org/docs/nimc.html
10:52:01FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @bung8954 "Error: expression '".exe"' is": the problem is you're missing an else
10:52:01FromDiscord<nnsee> https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ZuXkFIeNiGrP
10:52:20FromDiscord<nnsee> what would `ext` be if `os` was none of those?
10:52:29FromDiscord<nnsee> although yes, the error is very misleading
10:53:36FromDiscord<nnsee> and i swear the error used to be better for this specific case
10:53:39FromDiscord<nnsee> maybe i'm misremembering
10:53:43FromDiscord<penguinite> In reply to @demotomohiro "You can add nim": sadly nim still tries to open a non-existent system.nim file, even with the correct path on the top of the config file. (or as a command-line option), I have no idea where nim is getting `/usr/lib/nim/lib/system.nim` from, since I never input that at any stage.
10:54:39FromDiscord<nnsee> i must be misremembering, trying different versions on the playground just produces the same error message
11:13:29FromDiscord<bung8954> In reply to @nnsee "the problem is you're": that's really misleading error message. I encouter this two times, and every time I double check the manual : (
11:18:17FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @bung8954 "that's really misleading error": there is apparently an open bug report for it
11:18:18FromDiscord<nnsee> https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/11928
11:19:18FromDiscord<nnsee> maybe add your example to that bug report as well, since it seems to more clearly demonstrate the issue
11:21:41FromDiscord<bung8954> In reply to @nnsee "maybe add your example": indeed
11:33:24FromDiscord<intellij_gamer> In reply to @pengwyns "sadly nim still tries": There is also the --lib flag↵iirc the lib path defaults to where the nim binary is
11:34:19FromDiscord<intellij_gamer> If you are up for reading the compiler then iirc [this is where it's set](https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/773c066634d831a968bb464eab35b25a00026525/compiler/options.nim#L767)
12:40:03FromDiscord<xtrayambak> Does anyone know how to do CI with Nim? I can't find a good way to do it.
12:40:10FromDiscord<xtrayambak> I want to use Github Actions, if I can
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12:41:28FromDiscord<nnsee> what do you mean by "good way"? is using the nim docker image and running `nimble test` or whatever not sufficient for your use case?
12:44:31FromDiscord<vindaar> Just check out github actions files from some repository. E.g. from ggplotnim https://github.com/Vindaar/ggplotnim/blob/master/.github/workflows/ci.yml↵It might be useful, because it deals with getting dependencies for OSX, Windows as well as linux etc. For simpler stuff it can be quite a bit shorter of course↵(@xtrayambak)
12:45:08FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> https://github.com/Nimberite-Development/TagForge-Nim/blob/main/.github/workflows/test.yml this is what I use personally unless I have platform specific code
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12:57:54FromDiscord<nnsee> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=DYMJzanmutJG
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13:07:34FromDiscord<saint.___.> asdfajsf
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13:22:47FromDiscord<fosster> thanks for the suggestion
13:23:09FromDiscord<fosster> btw, is it just me or nim's playground doesn't let me copy the code
13:35:30FromDiscord<MDuardo> Can you make early if/else escapes?↵I tried return but says "return can't be used here"↵↵Maybe with a procedure would work, haven't tried
13:39:09FromDiscord<MDuardo> Like this?
13:39:10FromDiscord<MDuardo> Screenshot\_20240220\_083822\_Firefox\_1.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1209494458488328212/Screenshot_20240220_083822_Firefox_1.jpg?ex=65e7207e&is=65d4ab7e&hm=9a531e0fbbaf26a595c984dc149ac265c7c227462bfe2efdc59d6feb7a030fce&
13:48:24FromDiscord<egomind> In reply to @MDuardo "Can you make early": Can you share what you tried? early returns should work just fine
13:49:50FromDiscord<fosster> it works flawlessly, I just had to declare a disposable variable and add `var infoDictHash` to the proc signature
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14:11:50FromDiscord<sOkam! 🫐> In reply to @MDuardo "Can you make early": you cannot `return` out of the top level of your code, if thats what you are trying↵return means "exit this function" not "exit this script/file"
14:13:56NimEventerNew Nimble package! amqpstats - Pure Nim library to read AMQP stats via management plugin API, see https://github.com/Q-Master/amqp-stats.nim
14:18:51FromDiscord<MDuardo> I probably just indented bad the last return↵Thank you 👑↵(@sOkam! 🫐)
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14:45:54FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @bung8954 "yeah, it provide public": if you have no specific requirements (blockchain) just use libsodium.
14:46:02FromDiscord<mratsim> And I say that as the author of Constantine
14:48:13FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @bung8954 "it seems it only": It provides BLS signatures for asymmetric cryptography. But it's a special need for blockchains so that the aggregation of signatures is the signatures of the aggregate.
14:48:25FromDiscord<mratsim> (edit) "signatures" => "signature"
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15:01:25FromDiscord<fosster> guys, how can you check if an object field was initialized, meaning that if, for instance, I have initialized an empty object with its constructor AnObject(), and occasionally populate the fields, like while in the process of parsing a document, how can I know if all the fields have been set (and consequently parsed)?
15:09:18FromDiscord<itr_> What's a good way of memoizing a func?
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15:11:04FromDiscord<bung8954> In reply to @mratsim "if you have no": thanks!
15:17:57FromDiscord<mratsim> In reply to @fosster "guys, how can you": use `Option[MyFieldType]`
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17:04:50FromDiscord<asviest> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=uIUgxPiyUvZQ
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17:43:54FromDiscord<pmunch> In reply to @itr_ "What's a good way": The memoize library comes to mind
17:44:06FromDiscord<pmunch> https://github.com/andreaferretti/memo
17:44:13FromDiscord<itr_> In reply to @pmunch "The memoize library comes": only works with procs because {.memoise} technically has side effects
17:44:33FromDiscord<pmunch> Aah I see
17:44:56FromDiscord<pmunch> I guess a `cast` pragma to `noSideEffects`
18:16:12FromDiscord<fosster> to be honest it doesn't seem a good idea to fill up the object of options↵(@mratsim)
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18:47:56NimEventerNew thread by thecryptogeek: Do not understand the error when trying to add to seq inside loop, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/11052
18:48:11FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Why using Option doesn't seem a good idea?↵Another way is adding a bool fields to the object and set it true when it is initialized.
18:48:31FromDiscord<demotomohiro> @fosster
19:03:49FromDiscord<fosster> [demotomohiro](https://matrix.to/#/%40_discord_288750616510201856%3At2bot.io) tell me
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19:39:15FromDiscord<demotomohiro> Why using Option doesn't seem a good idea?
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19:51:20FromDiscord<fosster> because you would fill up your object with options and unwrap values everytime and this just doesn't feel right
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19:55:46FromDiscord<demotomohiro> If fields were ref or seq type, you can check if it is initialized with `x.f != nil` or `x.f.len != 0`.↵But there is no generic ways I know to check if it is initialized other than `Option[T]` or adding bool fields like `isXinitialized` that you set to true after initialization.
19:57:32termerOption is good, syntax around it is not
19:57:42termerThere's a library that makes this easier, but I forget the name
19:58:20termerHere's one https://github.com/codex-storage/questionable
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20:38:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I wonder if I could improve my NBT parser in any way
20:59:07FromDiscord<maxtachine> any lib to add text over an image? kinda like i think its called canvas in nodejs
21:00:45FromDiscord<maxtachine> I found one called pixie
21:15:29FromDiscord<djazz> Pixie ueah
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21:17:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Maybe I should learn more about cps in Nim hm...
21:17:39FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Not sure where to exactly start though
21:18:39FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Oh, I wonder if there's a Nim http server that uses cps
21:19:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://github.com/disruptek/httpleast
21:19:15FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Ooh
21:20:40FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Huh, neat
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21:25:26FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Recycling continuations seems like an odd thing to me ngl
21:25:44FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Like, I can't see how you'd do that easily
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21:44:41FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> I'm not making progress on my chat platform because I keep putting it off ugh :/
21:44:54FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Mostly the database-related stuff
21:45:07FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Maybe I should just make it so I dump the data in a JSON file
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22:01:48FromDiscord<leorize> well httpleast is a http server
22:01:50FromDiscord<leorize> it just doesn't do http \:p
22:07:31FromDiscord<leorize> what is does do is to response to any HTTP requests with a simple 200 OK Hello world response
22:07:41FromDiscord<leorize> so you can look at it to learn how to setup a server at least
22:07:59FromDiscord<leorize> it's made for benchmarking cps and queue overhead
22:15:42FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "it just doesn't do": Ah
22:15:46FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "it's made for benchmarking": Fair
22:19:13FromDiscord<leorize> the good news is that it's faster than httpbeast on my computer at least \:p
22:22:00FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Also fair, that's a good sign probably?
22:23:30FromDiscord<leorize> maybe lol
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22:36:18FromDiscord<ezquerra> Do you guys know if if there is a built in function that converts and integer to a bool sequence or do I need to make my own?
22:37:29FromDiscord<leorize> a single integer to bool seq?
22:37:34FromDiscord<ezquerra> Yes
22:37:44FromDiscord<leorize> why would you want that...
22:37:48FromDiscord<leorize> but yea you'd have to make your own
22:38:18FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @ezquerra "Do you guys know": I mean, you could cast a Nim int to an array of bools...?
22:38:25FromDiscord<leorize> you can't
22:38:32FromDiscord<ezquerra> Would that work?
22:39:05FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "you can't": Why not?
22:39:12FromDiscord<leorize> because a bool is one byte
22:39:35FromDiscord<ezquerra> In reply to @leorize "why would you want": Long story, I’m implementing a pretty in efficient Linear Feedback Shift Register 😅
22:39:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "because a bool is": To an array of bools it'd work
22:40:04FromDiscord<leorize> you can write your own bitshifts for this no?
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22:40:12FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `cast[array[sizeof int, bool]](139227222229483)` this works
22:40:22FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @leorize "you can write your": And this is probably much more robust than casting anyway
22:40:30FromDiscord<leorize> and what exactly did you get from it lol↵(@Robyn [She/Her])
22:40:46FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> `[true, true, true, true, false, false, false, false]`
22:41:08FromDiscord<leorize> as you can see, it meant absolutely nothing \:p
22:41:16FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Wait, unless they meant getting the bits as bools
22:41:45FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> That's what they meant, isn't it
22:41:54FromDiscord<leorize> what else
22:42:31FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> 🤷‍♀️ I didn't question it
22:43:12FromDiscord<leorize> manual masking is infinitely better, and the compiler could optimize it better too
22:43:41FromDiscord<leorize> but if you really want to manipulate individual bits by hand, then testBit and setBit from std/bitops is what you want
22:45:55FromDiscord<ezquerra> OK, it should be simple enough. I thought I’d ask first in case it was already part of the std or something like that. Thanks anyway!
22:46:54FromDiscord<leorize> a niche case like turning 8 bytes into 64 is unlikely to be in stdlib \:p
22:47:09FromDiscord<leorize> though I think that's like, an actual thing you could do with SIMD
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23:12:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> We can always just do `cast[set[0..sizeof(int)](myInt)` 😄