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00:29:54FromDiscord<Benjamin> Does the Nim forum support "spoiler tags"? I figure that could be a way to hide off-topic (parts of) posts, either by the users themselves or moderators.↡↡I really would have liked to skip huge parts if this thread\: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8629"
00:38:13FromDiscord<Benjamin> Does the Nim forum support "spoiler tags"? I figure that could be a way to hide off-topic (parts of) posts, either by the users themselves or moderators.↡↡I really would have liked to skip huge parts of this thread\: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8629
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01:05:35PMunchThat topic took an odd turn for sure
01:24:06FromDiscord<exelotl> i swear I've seen this exact thread take this exact turn before xD
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01:31:53FromDiscord<huantian> huh yeah that is quite an interesting thread
01:37:48FromDiscord<Tom> In reply to @dom96 "oh hello <@!451370459250950144> ": Thanks much for the reply!
01:46:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fvc
01:47:52FromDiscord<that_dude> Does python concept of `with` exist in nim? Or is template/macro magic needed that I implement myself
01:48:12FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> there is `std/with` but yes template/macros would be needed
01:48:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim implements a small language and expands it using metaprogramming
01:50:30FromDiscord<that_dude> hmm ok
02:32:45FromDiscord<ajusa> What's the state of pattern matching now? Coming back to some older code (written earlier this year) and doesn't seem to compile with the current version of fusion/matching. I saw hax's post on the forums as well, so is fusion no longer the source for his pattern matching library?
02:40:58FromDiscord<ajusa> I answered my own question; it was moved to https://github.com/haxscramper/hmisc
03:00:50FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @Elegantbeef "there is `std/with` but": did you know googling "std/with" by itself does not give you what I'm searching for?
03:01:31FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/with.html#with.m%2Ctyped%2Cvarargs%5Buntyped%5D going to the docs and searching with does though πŸ˜›
03:01:48FromDiscord<huantian> yeah I should bookmark the docs probably
03:02:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea at one point I abused rofi to give me search of the docs πŸ˜€
03:12:36FromDiscord<huantian> wonder if it's possible to get vscode to show me errors in a strformat?↡or is that not possible
03:12:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What do you mean?
03:14:33FromDiscord<huantian> like uh this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/911454438139519007/unknown.png
03:15:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It shoudl be technically possible, but the macro would have to do it
03:15:39nrds<Prestige99> pretty sure it's just an issue with the macro
03:15:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So the answer is "No, not without changing strformat"
03:16:15FromDiscord<exelotl> macros can only report errors at a per-node level of granularity right?
03:16:29FromDiscord<exelotl> so it couldn't possibly tell you "this is the part in the string that's bad"
03:17:16FromDiscord<exelotl> well I guess I could say so in the error message, but not in a way that would be reported properly to vscode
03:17:19FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It might be able to since you can access line info
03:17:20nrds<Prestige99> I think it'd be able to
03:17:26nrds<Prestige99> ^
03:17:27FromDiscord<exelotl> (edit) "I" => "it"
03:17:52FromDiscord<exelotl> ah, can you mutate the line info?
03:18:41FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> possibly, need to check something myself πŸ˜€
03:21:33FromDiscord<exelotl> also nim's `with` is not the same as python's, and sadly I find it to be so situational that it's never worth importing :(
03:21:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How do they differ and does the `with` nimble package work better?
03:23:13FromDiscord<exelotl> python's with is something different - it's a block that obtains a resource, binds it to a variable name, and then closes the resource at the end of the block
03:23:36FromDiscord<exelotl> here's a similar Nim template that I use for files: https://github.com/exelotl/natu/blob/devel/natu/tools/common.nim#L3
03:23:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So pretty much "Destructors are implemented for all types yet"
03:24:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> arent\
03:24:09FromDiscord<exelotl> yeah
03:24:57FromDiscord<exelotl> as for `std/with`, I suspect that the `with` nimble package is better indeed
03:25:53FromDiscord<exelotl> it's been a while since I've tried either though
03:26:10FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So yea seems you cannot easily fudge the line info
03:26:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Especially since the input is a static string
03:29:02FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So i guess sorry there is nothing much the can be resolved
03:29:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I guess without adding compiler functionality
03:30:43nrds<Prestige99> In c, when there's a struct declared inside a struct, how should we convert that for a wrapper? E.g. https://i.imgur.com/pkOgSS8.png
03:30:57nrds<Prestige99> I would assume I could just declare them as their own types
03:31:12FromDiscord<huantian> In reply to @Elegantbeef "I guess without adding": mm I see, well it's not too big of a deal anyways
03:33:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'd assume the same prestige
03:34:23nrds<Prestige99> c is weird
03:34:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Though how do you have to reference the struct? i dont recall if it does anything odd
03:35:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ya think?
03:36:02nrds<Prestige99> hence why I use Nim :)
03:37:47FromDiscord<sharpcdf> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvA
03:38:30FromDiscord<sharpcdf> ive used this same code on different websites and it works fine
03:38:32FromDiscord<sharpcdf> its just this
03:38:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Still thinking about alternatives to the static string, presently my dumb idea would be `"Some String " myArgStuff " other sentence stuff"` πŸ˜€
03:38:46FromDiscord<sharpcdf> (i searched for different tags though)
03:39:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well what's the stack trace say
03:39:36FromDiscord<sharpcdf> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvC
03:40:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What does that site return?
03:40:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `echo client.getContent(theUrl))`
03:40:39FromDiscord<sharpcdf> the html
03:40:43FromDiscord<sharpcdf> alright ill do that
03:41:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> My theory is that it's returning a single entry so it cannot be iterated over
03:41:10FromDiscord<sharpcdf> oh
03:41:45FromDiscord<sharpcdf> well i believe thats true but shouldnt it still be able to iterate?
03:42:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> IE `<someDiv> the entire site </div>` or something similar
03:43:00FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "`echo client.getContent(theUrl))`": oh
03:43:00FromDiscord<sharpcdf> uh
03:43:07FromDiscord<sharpcdf> the entire html is encoded
03:43:09FromDiscord<sharpcdf> thats why
03:43:23FromDiscord<sharpcdf> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/911461696508416040/unknown.png
03:43:34FromDiscord<sharpcdf> kinda weird
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03:44:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well that means the xml isnt parsing which is why it cannot iterate πŸ˜€
03:44:11FromDiscord<sharpcdf> how would i be able to fix it
03:44:44FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Try `content-type:"html"` or whatever as a header
03:44:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont know much about web dev
03:44:55FromDiscord<sharpcdf> again, it worked for every other link ive used
03:44:57FromDiscord<sharpcdf> alright
03:45:21FromDiscord<sharpcdf> well a header isnt a param in `getContent()` i believe
03:45:26FromDiscord<sharpcdf> i think it defaults to html
03:45:27FromDiscord<sharpcdf> weird
03:45:32FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> You set it on client
03:45:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `client.httpHeaders` or w/e
03:45:43FromDiscord<sharpcdf> oh alright
03:47:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Seems it's `Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8`
03:48:05FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Seems it's `Content-Type: text/html;": yea, looking at the mozilla dev docs for http requests, its either `Content-Type` or `Accept`
03:48:07FromDiscord<sharpcdf> ill try both
03:52:37FromDiscord<sharpcdf> also, need some clarification, can you specify a specific object field/process param specifically like `newObject(field="value")`?
03:53:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yes named paremeters exist
03:53:05FromDiscord<sharpcdf> alright nice
03:53:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> for object constructors the syntax is `ObjectType(fieldName: value)`
03:53:52FromDiscord<sharpcdf> ah alright
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04:03:16FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "Seems it's `Content-Type: text/html;": im trying to make a `HttpHeaders` object, how do I do it?
04:03:43FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvJ
04:03:50FromDiscord<sharpcdf> i imported `std/tables` and tried making a `TableRef["Content-Type": "text/html"]` but it doesnt work
04:03:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `client.headers = newHttpHeaders({ "Content-Type": "application/json" })`
04:03:55FromDiscord<Rika> Table isn’t mutable
04:03:57FromDiscord<sharpcdf> oh bruh lol
04:04:11FromDiscord<sharpcdf> i didnt see that on the docs
04:04:21FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @π™§π™šπ™’ "` ": Is wm a var?
04:04:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It's in the httppost example
04:04:29FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> its a thing passed to the fn
04:04:34FromDiscord<Rika> Yes I know
04:04:39FromDiscord<Rika> Does it have var in the type
04:04:42FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> no
04:04:46FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvK
04:04:55FromDiscord<Rika> Then put var in the type, var Whim
04:05:07FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> ohhh
04:05:09FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> ok thanks
04:05:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Is this the same as yesterday issue lacking `import std/tables`?
04:05:13FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> is it immutable by default
04:05:14FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> no
04:05:18FromDiscord<Rika> Yes
04:05:30FromDiscord<Rika> Almost everything is immutable by default
04:05:36FromDiscord<Rika> Soon to be everything
04:05:55FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> as long as it doesnt become haskell and acutally has fucking variables im fine w/ that lol
04:05:56FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "for object constructors the": also tried this, it just errors saying it needs an object type
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04:06:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Uhh↡(@sharpcdf)
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04:06:32FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> (edit) removed "fucking"
04:06:49FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @π™§π™šπ™’ "as long as it": Doubtful that will happen
04:06:53FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> as much as i try to learn haskell that always trips me up lol
04:06:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> are you doing `newClient(headers = newHttpHeaders({"Content-Type": "text/html"}))`
04:07:02FromDiscord<Rika> Haskell does have β€œvariables” using β€œlet with” I believe
04:07:06FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "are you doing `newClient(headers": yes
04:07:10FromDiscord<sharpcdf> anddd https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/911467682048659467/unknown.png
04:07:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's not what you said it was doing
04:07:44FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @π™§π™šπ™’ "as long as it": https://wiki.haskell.org/Let_vs._Where
04:08:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i dont know about how to make this work, the issue is with the http headers afaict
04:08:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm a big numpty when it comes to this stuff
04:08:28FromDiscord<sharpcdf> In reply to @Elegantbeef "That's not what you": new error
04:08:29FromDiscord<sharpcdf> yea
04:08:33FromDiscord<sharpcdf> hopefully i can resolve it
04:52:12FromDiscord<evoalg> I don't know why this doesn't work when I thought it would? https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvV
04:59:09FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> It doesnt know the type
04:59:21FromDiscord<evoalg> ahhhh
05:00:28FromDiscord<evoalg> makes sense now!
05:01:24FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fw0
05:01:30FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> i tried and but it complained about no boolean
05:01:38FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `ev.state and Button1Mask`
05:01:47FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> tried that...
05:01:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> then == `Button1Mask`
05:01:56FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> but its a bit flagh
05:01:58FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> (edit) "flagh" => "flag?"
05:02:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim's ints dont implicitly convert to bools
05:02:15FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `ev.state and Button1Mask == Button1Mask`
05:02:25FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> that looks stupid but if it works then it works
05:02:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Well we have proper bitsets but that requires the C type to be not stupid
05:02:53FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Normally you'd do `Button1Mask in ev.state` but thanks C
05:03:39FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> i c
05:03:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nim uses wirth style bitsets instead of C style oring of its
05:03:58FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> of ints\
05:04:06FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> wirth?
05:04:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Pascal
05:04:27FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> nim feels like python and pascal had some weird baby'
05:11:34FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> not bad thing btw just its kinda weird
05:27:27FromDiscord<pyautogui> Wirth also influenced/created many other languages, including Modula, ALGOL, VHDL, Ada, and who knows what else. He was a big proponent of structured programming.Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth
05:47:42FromDiscord<sharpcdf> wheres the documentation on the `when defined(os)` statement
05:47:48FromDiscord<sharpcdf> i cant find it and it kind of confuses me
05:48:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#statements-and-expressions-when-statement
05:48:45FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> `defined` is just `-d:someName`
05:53:47FromDiscord<sharpcdf> yea, but when is `windows` or etc. defined
05:54:05FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> From the Nimcfg i believe
05:54:11FromDiscord<sharpcdf> alright
05:54:28FromDiscord<sharpcdf> just dont see anything on those specific variables so i was a bit cnofused
05:54:28FromDiscord<sharpcdf> just dont see anything on those specific variables so i was a bit confused
05:59:27FromDiscord<sharpcdf> just realized i could also make a shell/batch file that could just manually define the os for each download
06:00:51FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What do you mean?
06:01:56FromDiscord<sharpcdf> well you could do like `nim c -d:linux` in the shell files and vice versa
06:02:02FromDiscord<sharpcdf> wouldnt be very efficient but it works
06:02:07FromDiscord<sharpcdf> or you could just check the extension
06:02:42FromDiscord<sharpcdf> just my opinion
06:02:45FromDiscord<sharpcdf> Β―\\\_(ツ)\_/Β―
06:02:47FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> For what though?
06:03:09FromDiscord<sharpcdf> im just saying as an alternative to the predefined os variables
06:03:19FromDiscord<sharpcdf> you could use it for making specific processes run or soemthing
06:03:25FromDiscord<sharpcdf> idk lol
06:03:26FromDiscord<sharpcdf> hypothetical
06:03:34FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> They arent variables though
06:03:47FromDiscord<sharpcdf> compiletime definitions
06:04:52FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i dont see what your suggestion is
06:05:01FromDiscord<sharpcdf> lol nevermind
06:06:53FromDiscord<sharpcdf> oh wait
06:06:57FromDiscord<sharpcdf> [Elegantbeef](https://matrix.to/#/@elegantbeef:matrix.org)\: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/wiki/Consts-defined-by-the-compiler
06:06:59FromDiscord<sharpcdf> found it
07:04:52FromDiscord<evoalg> In reply to @Elegantbeef "It doesnt know the": So to test to see if a variable contains `@[@[]]` is there a better way then this? https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fwr
07:05:52FromDiscord<Rika> Pattern matching?
07:06:45FromDiscord<evoalg> I don't know what pattern matching is, other than imagining that I could turn it into a string and then use a regex on it?
07:07:28FromDiscord<Rika> https://nim-lang.org/blog/2021/03/10/fusion-and-pattern-matching.html
07:10:27FromDiscord<evoalg> Thank you ... before I dive into that, I have another question about what I posted earlier: https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FvV ... I can't do `assert dd == @[@[]]` because it can't infer the type, but why can I do `assert d == @[]` ... shouldn't it be the same problem?
07:11:49FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fwu
07:12:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The issue is the inner sequence, since an array of an empty array isnt valid
07:12:41FromDiscord<Rika> Well why isn’t it?
07:12:51FromDiscord<Rika> Just stoking the fire
07:13:08FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> No deducable type
07:13:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The issue is actually probably just an issue with the bracket expression
07:14:22FromDiscord<evoalg> `assert d == @[]` has no deducible type either?
07:14:39FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fwv
07:14:46FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Nah it does since there is a single `==` proc for `seq[T]`
07:15:11FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> If you introduced a proc `==(a: seq[string]. b: seq[int])` it'd not work
07:15:56FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Oh nvm i guess i'm wrong πŸ˜€
07:16:01FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's interesting
07:16:20FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fww
07:16:24FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That works and does indeed call the above `==`
07:16:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Ah right that's more specific
07:17:01FromDiscord<Rika> Lol
07:17:16FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3Fwx
07:17:27FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Thats what we want
07:17:38FromDiscord<Rika> Basically reverse type deduction only goes one level of generics
07:18:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont think that's the issue in the array issue
07:18:17FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> The issue is that i think the system only looks if the type is `empty` and not if any of the types are empty
07:18:48FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> if you look at the `var b = [[]]` error it reports `array[0..0,array[-1..0, empty]]`
07:19:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Which makes me think it doesnt check intelligently to see "hey is this an array literal"
07:19:40FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> an empty array literal\
07:20:03FromDiscord<Rika> In reply to @Elegantbeef "if you look at": That’s correct isn’t it? Same issue with a no?
07:20:28FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> What?
07:22:01FromDiscord<Rika> I don’t know what you mean, [] is also of type array empty
07:22:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I'm saying it doesnt check if the child is empty
07:23:06FromDiscord<Rika> So you’re meaning the same thing as I did?
07:23:12FromDiscord<Rika> Meant not did
07:23:23FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Not a fucking clue
07:24:34FromDiscord<Rika> Lol I mean whatever lol
07:25:14FromDiscord<Rika> I assume this limitation is because of performance reasons
07:25:29FromDiscord<Rika> Or sudden possible generics ambiguity
07:26:21FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I assume it's someone forgetting some AST existed
07:26:36FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> That's the #1 reason for "bugs" around stuff like this
07:27:47FromDiscord<Rika> No I feel like this limitation is still here for some reason since it’s so obvious
07:29:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> i dont follow
07:30:13FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> How often are you making 30 nested empty array/seq literals
07:31:02FromDiscord<Rika> That’s not the issue
07:32:03FromDiscord<Rika> Now T can be inferred as A, or A[B, …], or etc? Or am I worrying too much
07:33:26FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I might be wrong looking at the error again
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10:07:49FromDiscord<haxscramper> I will move it to some separate library so you won't have to drag in whole `hmisc` bullshit pile that you most likely don't need in your code↡(@ajusa)
10:14:06FromDiscord<haxscramper> Funny how fusion was not even mentioned in the roadmap
10:47:01FromDiscord<dabmlfz> Is there any package that implements ADTs with a macro? I could write my own but would rather reuse one if it exists
10:49:24FromDiscord<dabmlfz> nvm, there seems to be Patty and others.. google really fails here
10:55:29FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @dabmlfz "Is there any package": Object variants are already ADTs, perhaps what you want is safe access to object branches?
10:55:39FromDiscord<Yardanico> Then you can use patty or fusion/matching
10:56:02FromDiscord<Yardanico> There are more alternatives sure, but those are the ones I can quickly remember :)
10:57:05FromDiscord<dabmlfz> Yeah I was looking for sugar constructs to help with the boilerplate, thanks!
10:57:25FromDiscord<enthus1ast> uff zmq is terrible to use... it looks nice at first but it has so many strange quirks...
10:58:16FromDiscord<dabmlfz> can you mention one?
10:59:38FromDiscord<enthus1ast> req / rep breaks when one side crashes and can not recover, pub / sub sends queues to many msgs and cannot realy congest control, dealer / router needs dummy msg ? and seems to need to know the partitipants beforehand
11:00:09FromDiscord<enthus1ast> so yeah i better use something else
11:01:42FromDiscord<enthus1ast> ah not pub / sub , i meant push / pull sorry
11:03:44FromDiscord<dabmlfz> oof your first point means you wouldn't want to use it on a public cluster ig
11:04:14FromDiscord<enthus1ast> i want to be able to spawn and remove producers and consumers at will
11:04:29FromDiscord<enthus1ast> because i don't know yet how many i need for each task
11:04:49FromDiscord<enthus1ast> and they will crash and when they do, i do not want to restart the whole system
11:06:04FromDiscord<enthus1ast> i do not need high throughput, but the messaging / queueing must be reliable
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11:11:36FromDiscord<dabmlfz> in that case zeromq isn't suitable as it's targeted more towards resource constrained systems
11:12:08FromDiscord<enthus1ast> I'm actually wondering for what task zmq IS actually suitable ;)
11:12:33FromDiscord<enthus1ast> can not imagine building something with it
11:15:47FromDiscord<dabmlfz> probably for something where every node agrees on the semantics and where you don't want reliability at the expense of resources I'd say
11:18:51FromDiscord<Rika> Sounds pretty rare
11:19:08FromDiscord<Rika> I guess multi computer computing like in research laboratories?
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13:42:57FromDiscord<Tom> Is it possible to make exception groups or tag groups for effect annotations, so I can say: `{.tags: [IOEffect].}` rather than `{.tags: [ReadIOEffect, WriteIOEffect].}` for example? Again, same question for `raises` and exception groups.
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14:22:11FromDiscord<dabmlfz> \
14:27:12FromDiscord<Rika> Christ your avatar is so high res it lags my phone when I open your profile
14:48:52FromDiscord<ajusa> How do I cross compile a Windows exe with SSL support? I've added all the missing DLLs and cacert.pem but it still complains about certificates not found
14:49:25FromDiscord<ajusa> Specifically, "No SSL/TLS CA certificates found."
14:49:39FromDiscord<ajusa> (edit) "How do I cross compile a Windows exe with SSL support? I've added all the missing DLLs and cacert.pem ... but" added "to the same folder as the exe"
15:52:32NimEventerNew thread by 12398890: How to profiling GC in Nim like golang's gctrace=1, see https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/8643
15:59:46FromDiscord<deech> Does the `dynlib` pragma work for static archives as well?
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16:30:18FromDiscord<leorize> no↡(@deech)
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19:40:05FromDiscord<jfmonty2> finally trying my hand at macros for the first time, is there any way to separate a variable declaration from its body? I.e. I want to have `let` or `var` in the main body of my code, but use a macro to generate the rest of the assignment
19:40:38FromDiscord<jfmonty2> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FAe
19:41:17FromDiscord<jfmonty2> but it keeps giving me syntax errors saying it expected either `:` or `=`, so I guess `let arbitrary_stmt` isn't valid syntax and therefore it can't be done this way?
19:42:23FromDiscord<jfmonty2> (edit) "`=`," => "`=` after the `let`,"
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19:50:03FromDiscord<Rika> Yes
20:00:43FromDiscord<michaelb> why isn't there a git tag (on github) for v1.2.14?
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20:11:09FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> so im writing a shitty wm and i want to know when i run `DISPLAY=:1 xeyes` it works fine from a seperate terminal but spawning it using `discard execCmd(cmd.args.join)` doesnt work?
20:11:22FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> it doesnt show up at all in the Xephyr window
20:11:59FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> its being invoked on a keypress like `shell(@["xeyes"])`
20:12:47FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> any help w this?
20:14:02FromDiscord<Yardanico> the `DISPLAY=:1 xeyes` is shell syntax, it won't work if you are launching a command
20:14:14FromDiscord<Yardanico> you need to use something that allows you to pass the environment, for example execCmdEx from osproc
20:14:17FromDiscord<Yardanico> `env` argument there
20:14:39FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> it shouldnt require it anyways since its launching inside the second x server
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20:14:55FromDiscord<Yardanico> how do you determine that it's launched "inside"?
20:15:16FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> because im running a Xephyr and running that program (the wm) inside a second X server
20:15:29FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> theres no way it wouldnt be running inside it
20:15:53FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FCb
20:16:15FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> its just that i cant figure out how to spawn the process from inside the wm
20:17:22FromDiscord<michaelb> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#ix=3FCg
20:18:28FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> `echo $DISPLAY` gives `:1`
20:18:31FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> from inside the Xephyr
20:18:42FromDiscord<Yardanico> In reply to @brainproxy "across multiple platforms and": what csources are you using? v1 ones, right?
20:18:48FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> yet it only works if i do `DISPLAY=:1 xeyes` before?
20:19:30FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> nvm
20:19:37FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> it magically fixed after i put `xeyes &`
20:19:43FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> maybe it wasnt forking i guess?
20:20:05FromDiscord<michaelb> In reply to @Yardanico "what csources are you": not sure, checking now, I didn't write the `ci.yml`, here it is:↡https://github.com/michaelsbradleyjr/nim-dagger/blob/localstore/.github/workflows/ci.yml
20:20:19FromDiscord<Yardanico> yes it uses the old csources repo
20:20:32FromDiscord<Yardanico> it has c sources for nim 0.20
20:20:44FromDiscord<Yardanico> csources_v1 has nim 1.0
20:20:52FromDiscord<Yardanico> and current nim versions are only tested to bootstrap with nim 1
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20:21:10FromDiscord<Yardanico> https://github.com/nim-lang/csources_v1
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20:30:05FromDiscord<michaelb> I see, will make the needed change, thanks for taking a look
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20:57:50FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> @ElegantBeef ur writing a wm right? need help w/ reparenting the titlebar (i want to create) so thats its above the frame window w/ the content
20:58:00FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> kinda having trouble figuring out how to do it
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21:36:35FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I never did the titlebar stuff or framing, but my understanding is you create a new window position it then reparent the child
21:37:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I believe https://github.com/avahe-kellenberger/nimdow might've done it, but i dont know.
21:37:03FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Pinging prestige!
21:45:31FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> could you ping him and ask?
21:45:42FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> if he's in the server
21:46:04FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I just did
21:46:28FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> i can successfully frame it but i can't figure out how to parent a titlebar
21:46:55FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Is it not just a case of parenting the title bar and parent the child bar?
21:47:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> child window\
21:47:09FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> tried but it didn't work apparently
21:47:16FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> it doesn't error but it just didn't show up?
21:47:57FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Yea i'm not too good with x11
21:48:02FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> @Prestige could u tell me how u did the titlebars if u did it?
21:48:14FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> I dont even know if he has title bars
21:48:18FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> And i already pinged him
21:48:23FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> it doesn't show u pinged him for me on discord
21:48:30FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> Cause he's an irc user
21:48:37FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> ohhhh
21:48:37FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> So.... me typing `prestige` did it
21:48:48FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> mb i forgot this was bridged
21:49:00FromDiscord<Elegantbeef> There is bot next to my name
21:49:12FromDiscord<π™§π™šπ™’> 😳
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