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00:13:18FromDiscord<aryzen> So I wanna use godot gdext but I cannot run these commands, gdextwiz isn't in my path I guess? Is it supposed to automatically populate there? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1364393660241809468/image.png?ex=6809821d&is=6808309d&hm=4976d103b3d86e55fe915daaa6d892575ac90ce26e89dcaa9a954225ebc61e91&
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00:23:48FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aryzen "So I wanna use": Have you added `$HOME/.nimble/bin` to path?
00:26:27FromDiscord<aryzen> I’ll have to check. I remember having difficulties with that before
00:26:33FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Fair
00:26:47FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Could add just add a line to append if in ya bashrc
00:27:17FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=CJrGiRzL
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00:32:13FromDiscord<aryzen> Would that also help with my difficulties updating nimlangserver or is that something else?
00:33:49FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aryzen "Would that also help": Adding the nimble dir to bashrc? wouldn't change anything
00:34:03FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aryzen "Would that also help": tho what issues? where it redownloads the compiler?
00:58:50Amun-Ralet's say I have a custom nimble build task, how to get defines passed to the nimble in a task?
01:04:05FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Does `define` not work?↵(<@709044657232936960_=41mun-=52a=5b=49=52=43=5d>)
01:05:29Amun-RaI have no method to get the list of defines passed or there's something I'm missing
01:06:01Amun-Ralet's say the task contains: exec "nim c -b=somebackend -d=mytaskdefine src/app.nim"
01:06:43Amun-RaI don't know (yet) how to append -d=release (or anything custom) to this if it's set
01:07:57Amun-RaI'm building mac fat binary and I can't use default build task for that
01:09:45Amun-RaI'm wondering whether I can move building process from Makefile for the .nimble
01:13:05FromDiscord<aryzen> In reply to @battery.acid.bubblegum "tho what issues? where": It’s the one I posted in #tooling
01:17:07Amun-RaRobyn: one way is to use paramcount and paramstr
01:31:04FromDiscord<janakali> In reply to @Amun-Ra "I'm wondering whether I": custom build task: https://paste.c-net.org/DotingClash
01:31:10FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> In reply to @aryzen "It’s the one I": Aah
01:31:32FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Not too sure how to fix that tbh sorry
01:32:17Amun-Rajanakali: I want to pass release define to the nimble
01:32:42FromDiscord<janakali> where do you define it?
01:34:38Amun-Rain the cli / makefile
01:34:51Amun-Ravia: nimble task / nimble task -d=release
01:34:56Amun-Rajanakali: https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=fzKFsDuc
01:39:22FromDiscord<aryzen> oh boy I have issues now https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371759389889003532/1364415321414565959/image.png?ex=6809964a&is=680844ca&hm=78f6bc2c10caad1914d996f6f1223f2e06f69f15ed2b2dbd24fa08d3ca6b94bc&
01:39:36FromDiscord<aryzen> I may need to wipe nimble and try again
01:39:53FromDiscord<aryzen> do I just delete ~/.nimble?
01:48:16FromDiscord<aryzen> yeah that looks like it, and I brew reinstalled nim just to be sure
01:53:20FromDiscord<aryzen> aargh, nimlangserver still refuses to install
01:55:48FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> Try `--useSystemNim` when installing langserver?↵(@aryzen)
01:57:01FromDiscord<aryzen> In reply to @Robyn "Try `--useSystemNim` when installing": Got further but there's a lot of warnings, starting with this: Warning: Package requires nim 2.0.8 but 2.2.4. Attempting to compile with the current nim version.
01:57:58FromDiscord<Robyn [She/Her]> That should be fine
02:03:34FromDiscord<aryzen> Alright. I’ll give it a go in a bit then thanks!!
02:19:26FromDiscord<spotlightkid> Try to make `lib` a `const`, like here\: https://github.com/SpotlightKid/nim-sndfile/blob/master/src/sndfile/api.nim#L1↵(@devlop_gaming)
02:23:35FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @spotlightkid "Try to make `lib`": Someone actually seen that wow🤔
02:54:11FromDiscord<Laylie> is that what this means?↵> Note\: Passing variables to the dynlib pragma will fail at runtime because of order of initialization problems.↵> ↵> https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#foreign-function-interface-dynlib-pragma-for-import
02:57:09FromDiscord<spotlightkid> yes
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06:59:18Amun-Radevlop_gaming: you miss stdcall
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07:39:55FromDiscord<enthus1ast.> In reply to @treeform "What changes did you": I patch debby to accept inherited objects, I need this for my CMS
07:41:26FromDiscord<enthus1ast.> But it's just partial done, so I want to write unit tests first to see what I've missed
08:12:32Amun-Radevlop_gaming: there's no ".dll" in your lib path
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09:19:09FromDiscord<amjadhd> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=AuJTtVlO
09:22:17FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @amjadhd "How do you translate": would an enum work?
09:28:02FromDiscord<amjadhd> In reply to @nnsee "would an enum work?": The proc expecting this type should receive a string value from the options provided and refuse all else.
09:35:56FromDiscord<amjadhd> Yeah I think an enum would work.
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11:34:32FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @Amun-Ra "<@769926604872613899>: there's no ".dll"": Yea there is. Making it a constant and removing the definition worked.
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12:18:57Amun-Radevlop_gaming: it wasn't in the paste
12:31:25FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @Amun-Ra "<@769926604872613899>: it wasn't in": Maybe bc it's deleted for a reason
12:32:22FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Also is there a application i can use that can detect memory issues within an application?
12:33:38FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I can't use valgrind bc it needs to be built and i require binaries atm
12:34:04FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "Also is there a": define "memory issues", but valgrind is the go-to
12:34:19FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "I can't use valgrind": i don't understand what you mean by this
12:34:44FromDiscord<nnsee> "it needs to be built" - you can get valgrind binaries↵"i require binaries" - why?
12:35:06FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "define "memory issues", but": I don't have time for valgrind. Stuff like memory leaks or maybe something to help me see what is there.
12:35:25FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee ""it needs to be": Where
12:36:10FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "I don't have time": valgrind is pretty much the only thing worth using. "i don't have time for valgrind" - ???
12:36:42FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @devlop_gaming "Where": So are you gonnd show me orr
12:36:48FromDiscord<nnsee> do i look like google to you?
12:36:49FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> (edit) "gonnd" => "gonna"
12:37:07FromDiscord<nnsee> i don't even know what distro you're using
12:37:16FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I'm not on linux
12:37:30FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I'm on windows
12:38:52FromDiscord<nnsee> valgrind doesn't run on windows
12:40:39FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> What apps can i use for windows then?
12:41:00FromDiscord<nnsee> WSL + valgrind :p
12:41:22FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I need windows apps not linux
12:41:30FromDiscord<nnsee> WSL is a windows app
12:41:47FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I meant for detecting memory leaks and yk it
12:43:10FromDiscord<nnsee> a quick google says there's something called "dr memory". i have no clue how good it is or if it will work for your purpose
12:43:18FromDiscord<nnsee> i strongly recommend setting up WSL and using valgrind instead
12:43:27FromDiscord<nnsee> for some reason, you don't like this answer, but it's objectively the correct answer
12:43:58FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I don't want to use linux please stop suggesting wsl
12:44:23FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> And it's slow. I only use it for compiling linux programs and that's it.
12:45:01FromDiscord<nnsee> you're using it for checking memory leaks, which is already slow. why would you care how fast your program runs in valgrind
12:45:47FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Maybe bc my program would freeze
12:46:00FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> It's literally laggy af
12:46:18FromDiscord<nnsee> ??? this isn't for regular usage
12:46:22FromDiscord<nnsee> this is for checking memory leaks
12:47:09FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> It..is..laggy
12:47:50FromDiscord<nnsee> are you ignoring what i'm saying on purpose or what
12:48:43FromDiscord<nnsee> >"how do I do X"↵>you need to do Y↵>"no i don't want to do Y"
12:48:44FromDiscord<nnsee> ???
12:48:45FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Just forget it
12:52:01FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @nnsee "a quick google says": @devlop_gaming are you not satisfied with this answer? a windows tool with binaries available...
12:53:28FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "<@769926604872613899> are you not": I am. Was installing it right after you suggested it.
12:58:03FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I don't get how to run my application with it
12:59:21FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> How am i supposed to use this
12:59:45FromDiscord<nnsee> did you try reading the manual? https://drmemory.org/page_running.html#sec_invocation
13:06:30FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I'm almost out of time. Can you answer my question that I have? I tried to search it up the other day and came up empty. So I have this sequence I'm adding objects into and am setting it's value to @[] every time a proc is called. I think this is the reason for spikes in memory bc when i restart the app memory goes back to normal🤔
13:08:23FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "I'm almost out of": what's your question?
13:09:11FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "what's your question?": Ok so I explained the problem in that paragraph. Is this the cause of the spikes I been seeing in my apps memory?
13:09:38FromDiscord<nnsee> hard to tell without actually seeing your code, but it shouldn't be
13:09:49FromDiscord<nnsee> it's worth testing `--mm:refc` as well
13:10:13FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> https://1drv.ms/u/c/d68ce0573038b832/EWhvBF_2t6dHuqquKv8O79kB2xsOcmKn5cng4qoPnnYLKg
13:10:26FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "hard to tell without": I went to go grab it
13:10:26FromDiscord<nnsee> and `-d:useMalloc`
13:11:25FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "https://1drv.ms/u/c/d68ce0573038b832/EWhvBF_2t6dHuq": oh god
13:11:38FromDiscord<nnsee> next time, please use the playground's paste feature or something
13:12:07FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Whoops😅
13:12:32FromDiscord<nnsee> what is a ProjectDisplay?
13:12:38FromDiscord<nnsee> is this from C side?
13:12:43FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> An object i made
13:14:02FromDiscord<spotlightkid> @nnsee\: I admire your patience. Though it borders on masochism 😉
13:14:38FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> 😑
13:18:00FromDiscord<nnsee> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=mjkGKnpv
13:18:43FromDiscord<nnsee> if that's not the issue, then `init(ProjectDisplay)` is a bit suspect. what does it do exactly? does it call into C code which might allocate?
13:59:37Amun-Radevlop_gaming: for tracking memory related issues I'd recommend libasan and libubsan
14:00:39Amun-Raand valgrind requires a few rules to rule out false positives
14:01:03Amun-Raand if you dlopen almost anything there will be leaks
14:02:05Amun-RaI had a few cases removing dlclose before exit fixed all the leaks reported so ymmv ;)
14:03:44Amun-Rathis is my old suppression list, untested on current nim versions: https://dpaste.com/9KS7FYFVA
14:05:09Amun-Rathe last time I used that was ca. 1.6.x
14:09:58FromDiscord<heysokam> compiling with ziccc makes ubsan usage trivial, if wondering how that's one way to do it
14:14:11Amun-Ra--passc='-fsanitize=address,undefined'
14:14:25Amun-Rathat should automagically include all the required libs
14:14:33Amun-Raat least in case of gcc and clang
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17:56:03FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "if that's not the": Code i written
17:56:09FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I am back
17:56:47FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "an easy way to": The problem only happens during runtime
18:03:03Amun-Rawhat kind of problem?
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18:06:07FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I have a cretae project button which creates a ProjectDisplay object and stores is inside a sequence. This sequence is overwritten every proc call like this projects = @[]. Which i notice causes memory to quickly rise. When I restart the application memory goes back to normal with the same objects being stored into the sequence.
18:08:17Amun-Rais it a local variable of a part of single context?
18:21:23FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Single. It's created in the main file and a proc in a separate file modifies it.
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18:45:21Amun-Rawill .setlen 0 instead of = @[] change that behavior?
18:47:23FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Let me see
18:47:47Amun-Rajust thinking outloud
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18:49:50FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Weird it's still doing it
18:50:33FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> So i created more projects which resulted in 39mb of memory then when I restarted task manager showed 12.6
18:50:59FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> And that's for 16 objects
19:11:47FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Something is wrong. Memory never shrinks.
19:16:17Amun-Raas expected
19:16:26Amun-Radoes it grow ad infinitum?
19:16:46Amun-Rafree memory returns to GC controlled pool and is not freed to the system
19:17:11Amun-Raas a general rule, I guess it depends on specific memory model
19:20:24FromDiscord<lainlaylie> did you try usemalloc as suggested earlier
19:20:30FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @Amun-Ra "does it grow ad": Yea just continously grow as objects are added. Is this bc sequences doesn't shrink?
19:21:19FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @lainlaylie "did you try usemalloc": 🤷‍♂️
19:21:25FromDiscord<lainlaylie> nice
19:23:29FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> What was the flag?
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19:39:28FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @lainlaylie "nice": I just tried it same results
19:43:19Amun-Radevlop_gaming: I'm not that well versed in nim internals
19:50:49FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> It's definitely that projects sequence but I'm not sure what to do about it
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19:51:38FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I can't continue either bc game objects will rely on sequences. Which would result in the user quickly running out of memory potentially crashing their pc.
19:53:41FromDiscord<lainlaylie> does the call to init lead to any allocations in C world that you don't clean up properly?
19:54:22FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> It's not related to c
19:54:30FromDiscord<lainlaylie> does ProjectDisplay contain any C stuff that needs freeing?
19:54:36FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Nope
19:54:43FromDiscord<lainlaylie> In reply to @devlop_gaming "It's not related to": but you pass sdl renderer and font into it?
19:54:55FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I told you it's the projects sequence
19:55:02FromDiscord<lainlaylie> ok, sorry
19:55:20FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> That's the only thing that grows on runtime as of now
19:55:29FromDiscord<lainlaylie> maybe someone else can divine what your problem is from a twenty line snippet with no context or type definitions
19:56:02FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I gave the whole fileHandle.nim file
19:58:20FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @lainlaylie "maybe someone else can": Do you need the projectDisplay file too?
19:59:38FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "The problem only happens": I'm aware. what I said applies to runtime
20:00:16FromDiscord<nnsee> did you try `-d:useMalloc` and `--mm:refc` like i asked you to?
20:00:35FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "So i created more": that doesn't sound abnormal
20:03:04FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @nnsee "I'm aware. what I": like I said, my code will allow you to check if objects are being properly destroyed at runtime when you set a new seq. it's for debugging
20:03:17FromDiscord<nnsee> so... are they?
20:03:35FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "that doesn't sound abnormal": Wym?
20:03:59FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "so... are they?": I'll go check rn
20:05:06FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Do i need to remove hints and verbosity?
20:05:16FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I have those off rn
20:05:53FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "Do i need to": remove?
20:06:01FromDiscord<nnsee> and off how? or why
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20:06:49FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Idk that depends if it reports stuff to the console?
20:07:13FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> What am I looking for? I added the flags.
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20:58:25FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "What am I looking": to see if that changes anything in the behaviour
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21:45:31FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "to see if that": Same thing happens
21:48:28FromDiscord<nnsee> and the destroy proc?
21:49:47FromDiscord<nnsee> imho unless you have definitive proof that it'll keep growing indefinitely, i don't think this is something you should be worried about right now
21:50:54FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Bruh the task manager is proof
21:51:37FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Memory literally doesn't decrease when the sequence is "cleared"
21:52:06FromDiscord<nnsee> what makes you think it should?
21:52:51FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Why tf would a small application be using more than a gb of memory for?
21:53:36FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "So i created more": more than a gigabyte? here you're talking about 40 megabytes
21:53:51FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "more than a gigabyte?": That's where I stopped at
21:54:14FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> It will get past that point if I continue with development which is why I stopped to try and fix this problem
21:54:22FromDiscord<nnsee> so... what gigabyte are you talking about?
21:54:35FromDiscord<nnsee> In reply to @devlop_gaming "It will get past": you don't even know if there is a problem
21:54:49FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "you don't even know": It is a problem how you gonna tell me
21:55:04FromDiscord<nnsee> what?
21:55:40FromDiscord<nnsee> listen buddy, if you're unwilling to listen to the people you're asking help from, then frankly, i'm unwilling to help you
21:55:54FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> How am I showing unwillingness???
21:56:28FromDiscord<nnsee> by arguing with me and not going through the debugging steps i'm telling you to go through which would definitively prove if you actually have a problem or not
21:56:55FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I literally went through most of them like you just talking atp
21:57:32FromDiscord<nnsee> i've asked you to implement the debugging `=destroy` proc like four times now friend
21:58:29FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Once
22:00:51FromDiscord<nnsee> are you really arguing with me about this? https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1364719600016818239 https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1364693130758328351 https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/371759389889003532/1364591132474085386
22:01:08FromDiscord<nnsee> that's three, and the last one was the fourth
22:01:51FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> You're right I'm not here to argue I'm here to fix a serious issue
22:02:23FromDiscord<nnsee> for someone here to "fix a serious issue", you sure don't seem to be interested in actually debugging the issue
22:02:36FromDiscord<nnsee> to the point where i'm beginning to think you're just trolling to annoy people
22:03:04FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I tried to fix it myself already but I'm not very experienced in sequences I know some things about them
22:03:21FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "to the point where": Don't get it fucking twisted I don't "troll"
22:04:29FromDiscord<nnsee> sure seems like it. maybe put some effort into not looking like a troll, then? could start with doing what i asked you to do to help debug your issue
22:04:35FromDiscord<nnsee> fifth time, btw
22:05:22FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> How bout you stop your accusations😑
22:06:16FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In reply to @nnsee "an easy way to": Also this is throwing an error
22:06:20FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> C:\Users\Dreca\OneDrive\SparkEngine\src\projectManagers\projectDisplay.nim(47, 1) Error: signature for '=destroy' must be proc[T: object](x: var T)
22:08:16FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=oQUISJUg
22:10:12FromDiscord<nnsee> sorry yes, missed a var there
22:10:30FromDiscord<nnsee> it should be `var ProjectDisplay`
22:12:04FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> In the fileHandle file or the file with the object in it?
22:12:48FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> I wasn't sure which file i am supposed to put it in
22:13:36FromDiscord<nnsee> in the file with the object definition is fine
22:18:29FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> And it's supposed to be called during runtime if the object is destroyed right?
22:18:48FromDiscord<nnsee> ideally yes
22:19:25FromDiscord<nnsee> more specifically, if you're using arc/orc, it should be called when all referecnes to it go out of scope
22:19:37FromDiscord<nnsee> (edit) "referecnes" => "references"
22:20:33FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Nothing in console. Did i type something wrong?
22:20:45FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> sent a code paste, see https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=tIreYssP
22:20:57FromDiscord<nnsee> should be correct
22:21:16FromDiscord<nnsee> can you post your code again? I can't remember what you did off the top of my head
22:27:19FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> Got the link to a site where i can paste my code?
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22:29:21FromDiscord<nnsee> https://play.nim-lang.org
22:29:39FromDiscord<nnsee> share button is on the bottom left
22:30:57FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=ChVhRQjw
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22:31:36FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> https://play.nim-lang.org/#pasty=yDlmUcco
22:31:43FromDiscord<devlop_gaming> 2nd link is the object
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