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| 00:13:08 | filwit | it's odd, procs which take typedesc (and maybe all type-classes) don't seem work as "properties".. but only those.. |
| 00:13:12 | filwit | eg: |
| 00:13:22 | filwit | proc blah(T:typedesc): int = 2 |
| 00:13:47 | filwit | var x = int.blah # fails |
| 00:13:54 | filwit | proc blah(i:int): int = 2 |
| 00:13:59 | filwit | var y = 2.blah # works |
| 00:14:18 | filwit | not sure if bug or expected behavior |
| 00:24:36 | Araq | filwit: int.blah works for me |
| 00:26:18 | filwit | eh, i literally just tried this with the latest devel... one sec |
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| 00:28:49 | filwit | eh, i literally just tried this with the latest devel... one sec |
| 00:29:08 | filwit | g'damn alt-tab... |
| 00:29:34 | filwit | yeah wtf.. int.blah is working for me now... |
| 00:29:55 | filwit | but typetraits.name does not work as T.name.. which is why tried this |
| 00:33:55 | Araq | T.name works as well |
| 00:34:57 | filwit | not for me, just tried.. one sec |
| 00:39:00 | filwit | sorry, doing a few different things ATM.. but the error I'm getting is: |
| 00:39:02 | filwit | Error: type mismatch: got (Page, T.(macros.name|typetraits.name|...)) |
| 00:39:02 | filwit | but expected one of: |
| 00:39:02 | filwit | events.defineEnable(item: typed, typeName: static[string]) |
| 00:39:23 | filwit | 'events.defineEnabled' is a proc in my module |
| 00:39:45 | filwit | err.. it's macro, not a proc |
| 00:40:24 | filwit | it works if i call it like: `defineEnabled(item, name(T))` but not like `defineEnabled(item, T.name)` |
| 00:41:07 | filwit | will try to isolate the scenario a bit |
| 00:42:15 | Araq | continues to work when I import macros |
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| 00:42:21 | Araq | has to do with your macro |
| 00:43:30 | filwit | it's being called from a generic proc |
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| 00:44:42 | filwit | 'defineEnable` is a macro, but it gets called from a `proc enable[T](item:T) = defineEnable(item, T.name)` |
| 00:45:33 | filwit | i'm not sure how it could be the `defineEnable` or my `enable` proc since it works just fine with `name(T)` |
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| 00:47:51 | filwit | and what's really odd is that my 'int.blah' test was literally just failing with the same error message.. but now it seems to work.. wtf.. |
| 00:49:10 | filwit | and what's really odd is that my 'int.blah' test was literally just failing with the same error message.. but now it seems to work.. wtf.. |
| 00:49:16 | filwit | omg.. |
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| 00:50:20 | filwit | okay, nevermind I rolled back to the actual code and the error was from using typetraits.name specifically in the 'blah' function.. my bad |
| 00:50:40 | filwit | it's still odd how that function seems to no want to work as a property for me |
| 00:50:47 | filwit | it's still odd how that function seems to no want to work as a property for me |
| 00:51:52 | filwit | testing again, looks like typetraits.name does in fact work like a property just fine in the simple `blah` example... sorry for the confusion.. |
| 00:52:07 | filwit | going to try and isolate why it's not working with my other function though |
| 00:52:34 | Araq | not really. it's tough to translate x.f to f(x) and in general cannot always work |
| 00:52:46 | Araq | the manual mentions the exceptions |
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| 00:57:44 | filwit | yeah.. the only thing I can see is that the actual call to `enable` is being generated by another macro.. and perhaps somehow that messes things up |
| 00:58:41 | filwit | anyways, not a huge deal since it if use the direct call syntax |
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| 03:10:39 | Varriount | Araq: Concerning locks, doesn't the predefined numerical ordering complicate lock handling across different libraries? |
| 03:12:16 | Varriount | Araq: Like, if my personal code is using lock levels 34 and 35, and some lower level library code uses lock levels 10 and 11, and yet another library is using levels 35 and 38, things could get rather complicated. |
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| 03:12:53 | Varriount | Wouldn't an explicit ordering based on names be better? |
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| 05:51:52 | Demos | ugh. I'm a bad programmer and I feel bad |
| 05:52:16 | Demos | wrote code like |
| 05:52:28 | Demos | type Color = distinct int |
| 05:52:46 | Demos | so that I can define proc `[]=`(t: Color, n: int) = ... |
| 05:53:00 | Demos | and call it using obj.Color[0] = ... |
| 05:53:03 | Demos | where obj is an int |
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| 07:04:21 | r-ku | vbtt im around \o/ |
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| 11:26:26 | reactormonk | Araq, I'm still taking suggestions on how to write https://gist.github.com/13b9138cf28f2e76ec10 since I can't use Option |
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| 14:19:29 | drewsrem | fowl, I tried to read what you gave me yesterday and couldn't make sense of how I could apply this to my problem, I made a very well commented small example tho of what I'm trying to do, I'd be really thankful if you'd take a look at it and confirm if this is doable or even take a small stab at it: http://ix.io/jTL - if you find the time to do so |
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| 14:40:50 | Araq | reactormonk: well please fix the path handling in the compiler ... |
| 14:55:12 | reactormonk | Araq, ah, for including stuff? What would be the proper way to specify which one you want? |
| 14:55:48 | Araq | paths |
| 14:56:57 | reactormonk | so pure/options ? |
| 14:57:07 | Araq | yeah |
| 14:57:51 | reactormonk | sounds like that would make path handling a lot more complex |
| 14:59:02 | Araq | nah you need to do --path:$lib perhaps |
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| 17:01:12 | vbtt | r-ku:i'm interested in learning about the coroutine stuff you're doing |
| 17:01:56 | vbtt | how the semantics differ from async/await and how are they implemented etc. |
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| 17:14:12 | Araq | vbtt: it's too early to say. but since these a proper coroutines the current restrictions that a closure iterator cannot be recursive are gone |
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| 17:14:24 | r-ku | vbtt its simply some setjmp/longjmp calls |
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| 17:19:32 | reactormonk | Araq, so there is no way to abstract over varness? |
| 17:20:40 | Araq | no. |
| 17:20:44 | reactormonk | even in templates? |
| 17:20:54 | Araq | dunno what that means |
| 17:21:07 | reactormonk | ehh, works with immediate ^^ |
| 17:21:24 | Araq | but in general I dislike your varness "abstractions" ideas :P |
| 17:21:42 | Araq | whether it's var or not is an important distinction |
| 17:21:51 | Araq | not something you need to "patch over" |
| 17:22:07 | Araq | it's not a deficiency in the language. |
| 17:22:57 | reactormonk | I don't like code duplication. https://gist.github.com/9e3c111eb29f5a238364 so should I just inline getMaybe and be done with it? |
| 17:23:06 | reactormonk | Btw, path:$lib solved it |
| 17:24:17 | Araq | or you can certainly use .immediate templates for the common body |
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| 17:24:29 | reactormonk | as I'm doing now? |
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| 17:24:59 | reactormonk | lib/pure/collections/tables.nim(118, 30) Error: expression has no address - from line 20 |
| 17:25:00 | Araq | as the tables module already does it |
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| 17:25:53 | reactormonk | btw, I think we should rename "expression has no address" to something like "expression isn't mutable" |
| 17:26:12 | Araq | perhaps |
| 17:26:28 | Araq | or we include a link to some tutorial about varness |
| 17:26:44 | reactormonk | But still, a non-obscure error message would help |
| 17:26:53 | reactormonk | or both. |
| 17:27:04 | Araq | but I dunno if people like links in their terminals |
| 17:28:30 | reactormonk | Just gotta be short, and most terminals auto-link anyway |
| 17:28:54 | reactormonk | mac and most linux terminals do, how about that other OS? |
| 17:31:28 | reactormonk | should I just go for exprs in that template, so it propagates the original types? |
| 17:31:32 | Araq | depends on the console that you use |
| 17:31:45 | Araq | reactormonk: yeah your template is strange, just make it untyped |
| 17:32:02 | Araq | your types take away the varness |
| 17:32:12 | reactormonk | nope, still bails |
| 17:32:27 | Araq | maybe your code is really wrong? |
| 17:32:40 | reactormonk | Entirely possible, which approach would you take? |
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| 18:58:45 | bogen-work | what would make nim apps compiled on FreeBSD not handle UTF-8 correctly? My locale LANG is set to en_US.UTF-8. Other applications are processing UTF-8 correctly. If I log into a Linux box from FreeBSD and run a nim app their, UTF-8 characters are displayed correctly. If I log into FreeBSD from Linux, other applications handle UTF-8 fine, but not nim applications (compiled on FreeBSD). |
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| 19:18:38 | Cryptotoad | having some issues with the sqlite library on winbloat, it's saying could not load: sqlite3.dll even when I've compiled a 64 bit version and put it in the folder. |
| 19:23:43 | bogen-work | ok, well, got it partially working (UTF-8 stuff), it is likely my configuration... |
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| 19:24:39 | dom96 | Cryptotoad: did you compile your application using a 64bit compiler? |
| 19:25:13 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: Uh, what part of your application is dealing with strings? |
| 19:26:03 | Cryptotoad | i tried with 32 and 64, afaik it's 32 bit but i did the test with 64 too just for science |
| 19:26:21 | Cryptotoad | was mostly just wondering if anyone had encountered that issue before |
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| 19:33:11 | dom96 | Cryptotoad: is the dll in the same folder as the exe? |
| 19:33:26 | Cryptotoad | yeah it is |
| 19:33:39 | dom96 | hey Varriount|Busy, how was OSCON? |
| 19:33:57 | Varriount|Busy | dom96: Nice, even though I was only there for a day. |
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| 19:34:23 | dom96 | Cryptotoad: in that case i'm not sure, the most common problem is that you are compiling your app using a 64 bit nim/gcc compiler and then trying to use a 32bit DLL or vice versa. |
| 19:34:51 | dom96 | Varriount|Busy: These type of things make me wish I lived in the US |
| 19:35:04 | Varriount|Busy | dom96: You get to go to Amsterdam though. |
| 19:35:27 | Cryptotoad | well i'll prod at it with a stick |
| 19:35:31 | Cryptotoad | hopefully it works eventually |
| 19:35:37 | dom96 | Varriount|Busy: Hopefully. It's still not confirmed whether Araq will be speaking there. |
| 19:35:39 | Varriount|Busy | dom96: How much would a round-trip flight to the US be? |
| 19:35:59 | dom96 | Varriount|Busy: $1000+ likely |
| 19:36:15 | bogen-work | ok, nim is not acting consistent. I can compile a small hello world app, and it outputs foreign characters fine, but in a larger app the same echo statement at the top of the file displays garbage. |
| 19:36:54 | bogen-work | same build options, same login session... |
| 19:36:59 | dom96 | Varriount|Busy: yeah, Google is showing me prices around £1300 |
| 19:37:00 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: What compiler version, and what OS? |
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| 19:37:28 | Varriount|Busy | dom96: Aww. |
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| 19:37:34 | dom96 | Varriount|Busy: I'm kinda annoyed because one of my colleagues got to go there, and the company funded him, but because I just joined and am an intern... |
| 19:37:43 | bogen-work | FreeBSD, just now built from git (-b devel) |
| 19:38:07 | dom96 | bogen-work: can we see the source code of the larger app? |
| 19:38:09 | bogen-work | Varriount|Busy: it was acting this way on an older build |
| 19:38:38 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: My first assumption would be some sort of memory corruption. |
| 19:39:36 | bogen-work | I will try to narrow it down. Well, out of all the other text it is outputting, it is only the UTF-8 charcters that are getting messed up. |
| 19:39:38 | dom96 | If Varriount|Busy's assumption is correct then compilling with --gc:none might give different results. |
| 19:39:59 | dom96 | Does the output change when you compile in release mode vs. debug mode? |
| 19:40:16 | bogen-work | I've only been compiling for debug |
| 19:40:18 | bogen-work | eh |
| 19:40:20 | dom96 | Lot's of things you can try |
| 19:40:21 | bogen-work | for release I mean |
| 19:40:25 | dom96 | try debug |
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| 19:42:35 | bogen-work | with debug, same garbage. can't compile with --gc:none Error: system module needs 'initStackBottomWith' |
| 19:43:34 | dom96 | huh, that's odd. |
| 19:43:39 | bogen-work | I'm going to compile the same large app on Linux and see if I get the same results. |
| 19:43:45 | dom96 | --gc:boehm? |
| 19:44:59 | bogen-work | builds, same garbage |
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| 19:45:14 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: Can I seem your code? |
| 19:45:18 | Varriount|Busy | *see |
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| 19:45:44 | Varriount|Busy | Are you using any non-standard C standard library implementation? |
| 19:46:51 | bogen-work | not this particular code.... I'll try to come up with a use case that has the same symptom. yes, I'm using oither libraries. I'm going to see now if it does the same on Linux. |
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| 19:50:07 | bogen-work | ok, this is not freebsd specific. I get same garabage on Linux, I'll come up with a use case. |
| 19:50:16 | bogen-work | well, a repro case |
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| 19:53:30 | dom96 | bogen-work: that would be really helpful, thanks! |
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| 20:01:04 | bogen-work | ok, it does not seem to be nim... something seems to be corrupting the files... |
| 20:01:10 | Varriount|Busy | ? |
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| 20:01:31 | bogen-work | well, I can view a file in an editor, and it is fine |
| 20:01:46 | wuehlmaus | some terminal problems? |
| 20:01:52 | bogen-work | cat it, and the foreign characters are garbage |
| 20:02:03 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: Check the file encoding. |
| 20:02:04 | bogen-work | then I can paste the contents into a different editor |
| 20:02:09 | bogen-work | and cat the file |
| 20:02:11 | bogen-work | and it is fine |
| 20:02:33 | bogen-work | well, same editor, new file |
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| 20:02:51 | Varriount|Busy | bogen-work: What editor are you using, and are you saving the file with the correct encoding? |
| 20:03:00 | bogen-work | yeah, it is file issue (joe and scite) |
| 20:07:14 | FedeOmoto | bogen-work: what does the 'file' command say about the file? |
| 20:08:05 | bogen-work | ok, it is Scite. Joe is file. Scite sames them as ascii when no foreign characters, but as "ISO-8859 text" when UTF-8 characters are pasted in. |
| 20:08:21 | bogen-work | Scite save them as.... |
| 20:08:48 | bogen-work | FedeOmoto: with joe, UTF-8, with Scite, |
| 20:08:54 | bogen-work | ISO-8859 text |
| 20:08:57 | FedeOmoto | that's it |
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| 20:09:51 | bogen-work | oh, my quick examples I was using joe, and my main app I was doing in Scite... |
| 20:10:29 | FedeOmoto | nice mix :P |
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| 20:15:28 | bogen-work | dom96, Varriount|Busy, FedeOmoto, well, thanks... Got it figured out... |
| 20:16:15 | FedeOmoto | np |
| 20:17:06 | dom96 | ahh, the joys of text encoding. |
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| 20:48:59 | Cryptotoad | fixed my sqlite issue, does nim have any inbuilt filter for sql injection or should I code one? |
| 20:50:26 | Cryptotoad | nevermind i assume the args parameter is filtered? |
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| 21:10:06 | federico3 | Cryptotoad: you might want to look at taint analysis |
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| 21:14:55 | sparrk | For http://nim-lang.org/docs/db_postgres.html how does one escape the values for a DB insert? |
| 21:15:22 | sparrk | It seems like args should be the key, but I can't seem to figure out the proc type signature |
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| 21:18:29 | federico3 | any example of using asyncnet with UDP? |
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| 21:20:03 | sparrk | Ah, I figured out the interface |
| 21:20:22 | sparrk | Rather than '$1' as shown in the example in the main manual, it is just $1 |
| 21:21:35 | Cryptotoad | i used the nimforum source as a usage guide |
| 21:21:41 | Cryptotoad | https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum |
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| 21:22:05 | dom96 | federico3: Not supported right now I'm afraid. |
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| 21:23:16 | Cryptotoad | anyone done a socks5 server yet? |
| 21:23:22 | Cryptotoad | i may code one if there's none existing |
| 21:34:59 | federico3 | dom96: dammit :( |
| 21:35:33 | dom96 | federico3: implement it, shouldn't be too difficult |
| 21:36:55 | federico3 | I haven't used asyncnet yet - I should probably spend quite some time on it before :) |
| 21:38:20 | dom96 | hrm, yeah. |
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| 21:51:24 | federico3 | https://libtins.github.io/ this looks very nice - anybody interested in writing a wrapper for it? :) |
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| 22:09:06 | sparrk | Is it possible to compile a universal binary from Nim? |
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| 22:20:45 | reactormonk | sparrk, like for mac? |
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| 22:22:27 | sparrk | Just to work on every debian / Ubuntu OS would be fine for my purposes |
| 22:23:14 | sparrk | I have my first in production Nim app for my business, and I just need a way of deploying it |
| 22:23:34 | sparrk | I could rebuild the entire Nim compiler on the production machine |
| 22:23:53 | sparrk | but I really just want to run it, so I figured there might be a way of doing that |
| 22:24:07 | sparrk | That didn't involve reinstalling Nim on the production machine |
| 22:24:29 | def- | sparrk: if you can do it with C, same procedure should work with Nim |
| 22:25:01 | def- | sparrk: for C/C++ programs I usually use a VM with an old debian version so that it has an old glibc, then it runs on all my target distributions |
| 22:25:57 | sparrk | Thanks def- that is helpful |
| 22:26:39 | def- | I guess one could also statically link another C library, like musl, but haven't tried that in production yet |
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| 22:32:02 | federico3 | sparrk: the executable should work just fine on both distributions. Are they running on the same architecture? Can you ensure the same runtime dependencies are deployed? |
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| 22:37:06 | sparrk | federico3: Yes, I can ensure the runtime deps are the same |
| 22:38:08 | federico3 | how can I split "foo:1" into a tuple containing a string "foo" and a number 1? |
| 22:38:21 | sparrk | http://nim.community/answers/split_string/ |
| 22:39:33 | sparrk | (As I figure stuff out I'm keeping a list since right now it is hard to Google answers and I have a poor memory) |
| 22:40:50 | federico3 | that does only the splitting |
| 22:46:23 | sparrk | https://gist.github.com/zachaysan/0b6a4eb712e4c385b0c5 |
| 22:46:24 | sparrk | no? |
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| 22:49:03 | federico3 | yep, thanks |
| 22:50:29 | federico3 | any way to define a tuple in a more concise way? e.g. let foo = tuple(a:1, b:"hi") |
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| 22:51:30 | federico3 | oh I can do let foo:tuple = (a:1, b:"hi") |
| 22:52:20 | sparrk | you can also do things like |
| 22:52:42 | federico3 | nah, I'm still going to need the tuple definition in other places :-/ |
| 22:53:16 | sparrk | yeah, I prefer to just define them |
| 22:53:23 | sparrk | but you *can* do things like this let foo = split("foo:bar", ":") |
| 22:54:04 | sparrk | oops, bad example |
| 22:54:07 | sparrk | thats an array |
| 22:54:19 | sparrk | let foo = splitFile("usr/local/nimc.html") |
| 22:54:23 | federico3 | a sequence, afaict |
| 22:54:33 | sparrk | yeah sorry, sequence |
| 22:55:09 | sparrk | I'm still in the first couple weeks of using Nim |
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| 23:15:24 | drewsrem | meh, nim streams needs some love, there's no SEEK_SET / SEEK_CUR / SEEK_END for seek (which is named setPosition as well) |
| 23:15:35 | drewsrem | so it seems I need to roll my own |
| 23:17:47 | drewsrem | This will probably be annoying to change too, as it breaks the Stream interface |
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| 23:30:44 | dom96 | sparrk: nim.community is really nice, thanks for creating it |
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| 23:54:39 | sparrk | dom96: :3 thanks! Feel free to contribute with pull requests. My goal is to add at least 3 pages per week. |
| 23:55:05 | dom96 | nice, will try but I am quite busy nowadays so I can't promise anything. |
| 23:56:54 | sparrk | Don't feel obligated! |
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