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00:08:16federico3how can I create object variants having the same attribute but with different types?
00:10:46FromGitter<ephja> it's not possible
00:13:09federico3ephja: thanks. Alternatively, if I subclass "A" into "B" and "C" where both children have an attribute with the same name but different types, can I define a method that will use that attribute for both B and C without duplicating the code?
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00:19:02FromGitter<ephja> @federico3 I dunno
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01:08:02Varriount|Phonefederico3: Perhaps concept types would help?
01:11:53Varriount|PhoneAlternately, define the implementation of the method using a template, and call the template in methods for B and C
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03:03:19FromGitter<aaron-lebo> hi there
03:03:39FromGitter<aaron-lebo> trying to do some opengl stuff with nim, and can't get a very basic example to work
03:03:51FromGitter<aaron-lebo> https://github.com/aaron-lebo/nimgl
03:04:16FromGitter<aaron-lebo> this should display a red triangle, but something is not working and not getting any errors
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03:09:04FromGitter<ephja> @aaron-lebo it looks like the vertex array holds float64 elements
03:09:35FromGitter<ephja> append `'f32` to the first array literal
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03:11:05FromGitter<ephja> float is basically float64 atm. replace instances of `float` with `float32`
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03:19:10FromGitter<ephja> are you supposed to delete the shaders at that particular moment?
03:22:00FromGitter<ephja> "If a shader object to be deleted is attached to a program object, it will be flagged for deletion, but it will not be deleted until it is no longer attached to any program object"
03:50:47FromGitter<aaron-lebo> @ephja thanks for the help.. those weren't apparently an issue but had notifced the float32/float64 issue earlier
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04:44:49organickbig channel
04:45:42organickdoes anyone know if nim has anything similar to java annotations?
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05:12:32Varriount|Phoneorganick: Javadoc annotations?
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06:18:30ftsf_=( nim on archlinux is now unmaintained
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08:44:28Varriount|PhoneAraq: Is there a way for one thread to "give" an object to another thread, without copying?
08:44:45Araqcast to ptr
08:46:18Varriount|PhoneAraq: I meant in a safe way.
08:48:59Araqthere is none.
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09:41:09flyxaaron-lebo: in line 47, you give `data.len` as size for glBufferData. this will only copy 9 bytes into the buffer, not the 9 * 8 bytes in `verts`.
09:41:33flyxuse `data.len * sizeof(float)`
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13:00:35vktecWhat's the best way to inject proc parameters into template code blocks?
13:00:59vktecThat's a confusing question, sorry
13:01:01vktecI'll make a gist
13:03:24vktecHuh.
13:03:27vktecIt's working fine now
13:03:40vktecMust be an issue with my particular implementation. Debugging time \o/
13:04:12reactormonksorry, wrong button
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13:10:09vktecHmm... it appears my issue only happens with nested templates. https://gist.github.com/vktec/c3c7e96051b2f4f8bbe4870c0192bcbb
13:10:21vktecWait...
13:10:22vktecOops
13:11:31vktecOkay, I corrected my mistake, but same error
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13:18:11Arrrrdirty ?
13:19:39vktecArrrr: I doubt that's the issue, since it works when the templates aren't nested, but I'll give it a try
13:19:54flyxdirty on the outer template works.
13:20:17vktecflyx: Indeed!
13:20:18vktecThanks Arrrr
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14:36:41flyxI think the forum needs some sort of notifications. „user xy replied to your post/thread“ or something.
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16:27:10krux02I would like to know, if there is an option to use simd instructions with nim.
16:27:23krux02(single instructions multiple data)
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16:35:14cheatfatekrux02, with gcc you can use assembler
16:35:23cheatfateor intrinsics
16:36:53krux02cheatfate: It is not a priority right now, but I would really like to know how I could make SIMD instructions in Nim. If the solution would destroy portability I rather not use it.
16:38:14cheatfatekrux02, it will destroy portability because x86 and arm are not compatible
16:38:33krux02I would like to have a solution that can miplement this: proc `+`(a,b: array[4,float32]): array[4,float32]
16:39:09krux02yes but as far as I know both have some kind of SIMD
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16:46:30cheatfatekrux02, you can try to implement it, and i think you can start from here http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/introduction-gcc-compiler-intrinsics-vector-processing
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16:56:01libmanJust noticed that https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks published their big update. Nim MIA. :(
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17:09:03cheatfateeven dont know how to interpret this benchmark, because looks like postgres (rdmbs) is faster then nosql mongodb
17:09:20cheatfateso what is better, framework, database or language?
17:11:30cheatfatealso most of frameworks do not have support of windows, because there no windows benchmarks... how to interpret this?
17:12:38libmanI just look at PostgreSQL results.
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17:13:13libmanSomeone making the effort to write good implementations for their language is part of the benchmark. ;)
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17:16:11cheatfatelibman, and i have found `libreactor` as winner in plaintext results
17:16:20cheatfatehow i can find wtf is `libreactor`?
17:17:32cheatfatebecause what i have found is not really usable... its just simple c code
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17:18:59libmanInterpreting those results takes a bit of skill. I ignore non-SQL results and one-win wonders.
17:20:13cheatfatelibman, how i can find homepage of framework?
17:20:17libmanAlso, some tests (ex. fortunes, multiple queries) are more interesting than others. A well-designed Web App wouldn't use HTTP API's for anything that can be statically generated.
17:21:12*libman is still trying to make sense of https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/tree/master/frameworks/C/libreactor
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17:22:37libmanIt doesn't appear for the relevant tests, so I just ignore it.
17:23:24libmanJust look at "multiple queries", "fortunes", and "data updates", and just with SQL DB.
17:25:23libmanThe real winner is Golang (fasthttp-postgresql-prefork).
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17:34:00cheatfategoogle benchmarks made this winner google language :)
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17:38:11Varriount|Phoneflyx: Your YAML library looks awesome!
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18:06:14flyxVarriount|Phone: thanks!
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19:07:53Varriount|PhoneAraq: Is it supposed to be possible to use macros and templates as vision pragmas for types?
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19:56:38Araqwhat is a vision pragma?
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20:11:42FromGitter<ephja> was anything going to change regarding the indexing operator?
20:17:54Araqworks for me.
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20:32:21FromGitter<tekjar> Is 4 space indentation considered to be bad nim style? Some how I feel my code to be very cluttered when looking at nested conditional statements.
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20:32:56Araq2, 3, 4 are perfectly fine
20:33:17FromGitter<ephja> I agree. it's difficult to parse sometimes
20:35:09AraqI think 4 spaces are the norm, but nim and its stdlib started with 2 spaces and continue to use 2 spaces
20:35:34FromGitter<tekjar> Oh cool. Lot of 2 spaces in nimble. My eyes hurt sometimes :P
20:36:06Araqthe best programmer I know uses 1 space :P
20:36:59FromGitter<tekjar> And who is that?
20:37:36FromGitter<ephja> they work alone? :p
20:37:41Araqnumber of spaces has a negative correlation to IQ :P
20:37:48FromGitter<tekjar> Hehehhh
20:38:03FromGitter<ephja> I like 10 spaces
20:38:38FromGitter<tekjar> Araq’s way of testing IQ :P
20:39:06Araqbut seriously, don't you just adapt after some time?
20:39:43AraqI mean, I know I never adapted to curly braces :P
20:39:57Araqbut I thought number of spaces are just never an issue
20:40:00FromGitter<tekjar> I didn’t write much nim. This might as well be because of seeing lot of python code.
20:40:06Araqexcept if you use more than 4 :P
20:42:46FromGitter<tekjar> I’m not sure how others feel? Am I the first to complain about indentation :sweat_smile:
20:42:51FromGitter<tekjar> ?
20:44:18Araqit comes up oocasionally
20:46:06FromGitter<tekjar> Oh. Ok
20:46:37AraqI don't know why editors cannot render indentation as pleased
20:47:02Araqmillions of lines of code. which miss essential stuff.
20:47:13Araqin development for decades.
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22:03:05FromGitter<timeyyy> R.I.P \t, fwiw I am preferring 2 space indentation
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22:38:24vktecIs it possible to specify additions to the path using a pragma?
22:39:12vktecI'm importing stuff from compiler that requires $lib/packages/docutils to be in the path, but I'd rather not have to specify that as a compiler flag
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22:41:12AraqI don't think so and instead the compiler should use relative imports
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22:41:27Araqthe --path concept is already bad enough
22:42:09Araqlet's not make it even harder to control
22:42:47vktecWith import compiler/scriptconfig in my Nim file: /home/vktec/.nimble/pkgs/compiler-0.15.2/compiler/docgen.nim(16, 40) Error: cannot open 'rstast'
22:43:09vktecWith --path:\$lib/packages/docutils it works fine
22:44:52vktecAraq: fwiw, this issue has been around a while, and --path is the fix you recommended for it. https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/3607
22:46:30AraqI changed my mind. :P
22:46:52Araqthe more people use the compiler as a library, the more useful it should be as a library
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22:47:45vktecWould replacing `import rstast` with `import packages/docutils/rstast` in compiler/docgen.nim work?
22:47:52Araqyes
22:48:00vktecShall I submit a PR?
22:48:08Araqmaybe more places need to be updated
22:48:12Araqbut that's the general idea
22:48:15AraqPR welcome
22:48:17*vktec greps
22:48:55Araqmaybe we should decide what to do with 'packages' though. oh well
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22:50:46vktecThe only place where rstgen specifically appears to be an issue is docgen.nim
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22:50:57vktecThere may be other modules with similar problems
22:51:33vktecI'll submit a PR for compiler/docgen.nim and see if I run into any similar issues later on
22:52:30Araqno, patch compiler/nim.cfg
22:52:40Araqand see if bootstrapping works
22:53:01Araqpath:"$lib/packages/docutils" # remove this line
22:53:52vktecBootstrapping fails
22:54:11vktec(with that line commented out)
22:54:43Araqwell now you know. your fix is incomplete.
22:56:03vktecYep
22:56:31vktecRight, it's compiling properly now, so it'll probably complete
22:56:41vktecCompleted successfully
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23:01:00Araqvktec: if you feel adventureous, you can also patch condsyms to use the shared ModuleGraph thing instead of globals. needs nimble and nimsuggest patches too though.
23:02:43vktecAraq: I doubt I know my way around the code well enough to do that
23:03:56Araqremove some code and see what the Nim compiler tells you :-)
23:04:25Araqit's called software development by deleting code.
23:05:30vktec:D
23:07:11vktecThis is my first time contributing to a large project, so I think I'll start off with things I know I can do, rather than jumping in at the deep end
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23:19:20Araqugh, 43 failing tests on my sighashes branch
23:19:33vktec:-/
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23:20:21vktecTravis has been going for almost 15min on my PR, but I guess there are rather a lot of tests it has to do
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23:21:19Araqwe have a large test suite, yeah
23:22:13vktecThat's a good thing
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23:29:04vktecAraq: Travis has now approved my PR, if you'd like to take a look at it: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5067
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