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05:43:23sigipaHello All, Is anyone using nim on FreeBSD amd64?
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07:08:57Araqsigipa: quite sure people use it, yes
07:09:37Araqcncl: setLen never shrinks a seq. but I don't know if it will at some point.
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07:26:05NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 64737c8 sergey.anufriev [+0 ±1 -0]: added proc to change an element tag and proc to insert xmlnode child
07:26:05NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 52342a1 Andreas Rumpf [+0 ±1 -0]: Merge pull request #3380 from greyanubis/devel... 2 more lines
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07:31:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 6b645c5 Andrey Sobolev [+0 ±1 -0]: mmap non PageSize aligned support... 2 more lines
07:31:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 9cdfdde Andrey Sobolev [+0 ±1 -0]: Support for GC working in Emscripten environment... 2 more lines
07:31:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel c16c1b4 Andrey Sobolev [+2 ±24 -0]: Merge remote-tracking branch 'nim-lang/devel' into emscripten-support
07:31:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel a1aa7da Andrey Sobolev [+0 ±3 -0]: Merge remote-tracking branch 'nim-lang/devel' into emscripten-support
07:31:54NimBot19 more commits.
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08:05:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 0a4d9aa Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: fixes regression
08:05:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel dfaa63e Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: osproc: fixes a long standing buffering bug on Windows
08:05:54NimBotnim-lang/Nim devel 48036fa Araq [+0 ±1 -0]: fixes #635
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13:43:49softiniodoes sequences have a helper method to convert them to a string? or will I have to write my own using a for loop etc
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13:45:54softinioAraq: ty
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16:03:45cnclAraq: great thanks
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16:31:10OnOAraq: regarding your question, there are no downsides AFAIK
16:31:31OnOFYI on UNIX stderr is usually flushed on stderr new line, but not on stdout
16:31:47OnOit would be nice to ensure all Nim diagnostics are actually heading stderr
16:31:57OnOthen by design this will be flushed on each line
16:32:12OnOthis IMHO could be better than forcing flush on stdout
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18:07:46ArrrrIs this still true for this week? http://forum.nim-lang.org/t/1674
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19:54:59tmm1good afternoon
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19:57:15Araqservus
19:57:58Araqso tmm1, how does travis work? does it run the tests only on a linux server or is there some cluster?
19:58:17tmm1they have a build farm of linux machines
19:58:24tmm1running docker containers
19:58:36Araqbut no macs or wins?
19:58:40tmm1so every build picks a random container and runs there.. they're all the same ubuntu precise images
19:58:44tmm1they have macs too
19:58:56tmm1i had a mac build before but i disabled it, we could add it back
19:59:04tmm1now that tests are green
19:59:08Araqyeah please.
19:59:21Araqand every PR is checked with travis? or only the new PRs?
19:59:43tmm1it triggers on push
19:59:49tmm1so any open PR that receives a new push after it was setup
19:59:52tmm1but also they must merge devel
19:59:58tmm1so it gets the latest .travis.yml
20:00:10tmm1i think there are some similar services that do win32 builds, would be worth setting up one of those as well
20:00:13tmm1most are free for OSS projects
20:01:29tmm1looks like http://www.appveyor.com/ is the most popular
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20:02:55tmm1looks pretty straightforward, similar to travis configuration http://www.appveyor.com/docs/build-configuration#appveyor-yml
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20:07:37tmm1Araq: can you signup here with the free OSS plan and i'll make a PR to test it out https://ci.appveyor.com/signup
20:07:48tmm1alternatively you can add me to the nim-lang org and i'll do it myself
20:08:48Araqoh. damn.
20:08:53Araqalready did it.
20:09:02Araqand now? "new project"?
20:09:19Araq(will add you anyway, of course)
20:11:08tmm1i haven't used it before but yea presumably you can create a project for the nim-lang/nim repo and then it will start watching for pushes
20:14:02Araqok, added it. somehow.
20:14:46Araqno idea how it can "build" Nim already without config
20:15:07Araq"Specify a project or solution file. The directory does not contain a project or solution file."
20:15:20Araqah urgh. don't tell me it thinks I use visual studio
20:16:26Araqanyway, I invited you to nim-lang.
20:24:22tmm1thanks!
20:24:45tmm1kicked off a build https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Araq/nim/build/1.0.2/job/ty5969220v4jqerp
20:25:15Araqcygwin?
20:25:25Araqwe don't support cygwin officially.
20:25:26tmm1just using it for bash
20:25:32tmm1so i can run bootstrap.sh
20:25:48AraqError: unknown operating system: mingw32_nt-6.2
20:26:08Araqwe use .bat scripts for windows.
20:26:51tmm1okay, so i should clone csources myself and run build.bat
20:27:17Araqyeah, shouldn't be hard.
20:27:32Araqwe support essentially the same build.
20:37:21tmm1and i want to use mingw32 and mingw64 right?
20:37:55Araqright.
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20:40:52tmm1looks like they have msys and msys2 available
20:41:31Araqwho cares? the build should do what we tell windows users to do. which is running the .bat files.
20:41:52Araqit's all generated anyway, no burden for us.
20:42:51tmm1i ran build.bat but it couldn't find gcc
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20:43:06tmm1so i need to set path to where they have mingw available first
20:43:29Araqthat's an issue with their server setup though
20:44:02ryu0tmm1: ugh. i gave up using mingw on windows. i prefer to use it from a Linux host.
20:44:19ryu0just seems easier to cross-compile instead.
20:44:32tmm1yea i've used it to cross compile exes on my mac
20:45:24tmm1for CI it seems worth building on the target platform directly
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21:06:48cnclmingw is working ok for me, nim is the first time i've really used it (been using nim for a few days now)
21:07:06cncli was using msvc at the beginning but the toy i'm working on now doesn't have that as a requirement so i'm using mingw right now
21:25:40tmm1cool nim is building
21:25:43tmm1now to run the test suite
21:26:08Araqbeware. I recently had problems with a wrong sqlite3_32.dll
21:26:10tmm1looks like appveyor has an "artifacts" system too, so you can upload the generated nim.exe
21:26:39Araqthat would be useful for nightly builds.
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21:58:19tmm1could not load: (ssleay64|libssl64).dll
21:59:26tmm1is there an ENV var used for lib path lookups?
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22:05:48Mat4hi all
22:06:48Araqtmm1: on windows it's the %PATH% that is used for DLLs
22:06:51Araqhi Mat4
22:07:23tmm1ah intersting
22:08:13Araqhttp://nim-lang/downloads/dlls.zip
22:09:05Araqhttp://nim-lang.org/download/dlls.zip
22:09:32Araqsomehow these need to be made available for the tester
22:10:13Araqoh wait, that actually contains the broken sqlite3_32.dll
22:10:22Araqnow where is varriount when I need him ...
22:10:23tmm1hmm i think i can install these from msys2 pacman
22:10:40Araqyou need to rename them.
22:11:01Araqwe now use _32 and 64 suffixes because too many complained about strange error messages
22:11:16Araqwhich are of course not under our control, but windows' fault.
22:19:44tmm1what an annoying platform
22:19:50tmm1so i should just unzip those dlls into bin/ ?
22:20:41tmm1how do regular users deal with this? they have to manually rename the dlls or know to download these?
22:23:33Araqthe installer will ship with them and for distribution windows' programmer know how to do it. put them next to the exe that needs it.
22:23:44tmm1looks like there' s a msys-ssl-1.0.0.dll, can i change openss wrapper to look for that?
22:24:11Araqnot if we can avoid it. msys stuff is bad.
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22:30:14tmm1if i put those dlls on the path then other exes break
22:30:18tmm1git cannot clone over ssl
22:30:53Araqwell you can just put them next to the exe that needs it
22:31:06Araqtester.exe in this case.
22:31:20Araqkoch and nim have no DLL dependencies.
22:31:40Araqalso we use non-standard DLL names exactly to prevent the conflicts you're talking about.
22:32:30tmm1its not just tester though right, any of the tests could be using it
22:32:35tmm1and in this case i need ssl for nimble update
22:32:46tmm1i'll try to delete libcurl since that's the one without ssl support
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22:43:48tmm1tests are running! https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Araq/nim/build/1.0.21#L1912
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23:03:50Araqexcellent! :-)
23:03:53tmm1can an if expression span multiple lines?
23:04:18Araqsure
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23:06:12tmm1ah had an indentation issue
23:07:22tmm1Araq: artifacts uploading as well https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Araq/nim/build/1.0.21/artifacts
23:07:51tmm1"Uploading artifact bin\nim.exe (2.5 MB)...OK"
23:08:22tmm1weird the build got marked as success even though i did --pedantic
23:08:52Araqcheck the tester's code please.
23:09:26Araqmaybe --pedantic is buggy
23:09:58tmm1it works on linux/travis
23:10:03Araqalso ... the thing with windows is that 32bits are still everywhere. we need both win32 and win64 machines/setups
23:10:59tmm1oh it must be koch
23:11:17tmm1Araq: yea appveyor will run both builds in parallel, one for x86 and one x64
23:11:24tmm1i'm only doing x64 right now
23:12:15tmm1hmm koch exec() is supposed to check exit code
23:12:18tmm1wonder why its not working
23:13:20Araqthe exit code needs to be shr 8'ed depending on the phase of the moon.
23:15:07Araqbut this shouldn't make a difference when we only test for != 0 in practice. hm.
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23:18:43tmm1Araq: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Araq/nim/build/1.0.22/tests
23:18:53tmm1i integrated with their test ui
23:21:07Araqsuperb.
23:21:26Araqbut why does tunsafeaddr produce 11 and not 12?
23:22:20tmm1right? i was wondering the same thing
23:22:57Araqwell 'long' is poorly specified on win64.
23:23:15Araqthe C snippet should use NI (nim int) instead
23:23:56Araqyup
23:24:25Araqthat would explain it. mingw64's 'long' is 32 bits.
23:24:37tmm1ah
23:24:46tmm1so s/long/NI/ in the emit section?
23:24:54Araqyes
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23:46:33tmm1does it let you cancel builds?
23:46:37tmm1there are a bunch queued now https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Araq/nim/history
23:46:42tmm1i only need the most recent to run
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