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| 06:34:01 | IcyFoxy | Where is --app:* used? |
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| 11:48:20 | krux02 | is anyone online who uses nim-mode? |
| 11:50:53 | federico3 | nim-mode? |
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| 12:05:49 | krux02 | federico: nim-mode is the nim support for emacs |
| 12:06:30 | krux02 | since I found out about spacemacs, I would like to use it there, but somehow I could only get it to work in spacemacs |
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| 12:36:53 | reactormonk | krux02, hm? works somewhat here. |
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| 12:44:12 | krux02 | reactormonk: I can't get completion to work |
| 12:44:50 | krux02 | I had completion working in emacs without spacemacs, but in spacemacs I just can't get it working |
| 12:45:13 | krux02 | autocompletion is on, and it also completes, but it doesn't have semantic completion, just word based completion |
| 12:45:33 | krux02 | and I don't know what to do to find out what is going wrong |
| 12:48:23 | reactormonk | krux02, does it find nimsuggest? |
| 12:53:03 | krux02 | yes it does |
| 12:54:43 | krux02 | nim-nimsuggest-path is a variable defined in `nim-vars.el'. |
| 12:54:43 | krux02 | Its value is "/home/arne/.nimble/bin/nimsuggest" |
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| 13:35:11 | krux02 | reactormonk: is there something spacemacs that I need to enable so that nim semantic completion works? |
| 13:36:23 | reactormonk | krux02, dunno, works for me :-) |
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| 13:36:53 | krux02 | reactormonk: then what is your config? |
| 13:37:31 | krux02 | can I have your .spacemacs if there is nothing private in it? |
| 13:37:57 | reactormonk | just plain spacemacs |
| 13:38:15 | reactormonk | grep nim .spacemacs shows just the layer |
| 13:39:24 | krux02 | what other layers do you have |
| 13:40:47 | reactormonk | nothing specific I'd say |
| 13:42:14 | krux02 | can I please have it? |
| 13:42:30 | krux02 | I would like to know if I have anything that might be incompatible |
| 13:43:15 | krux02 | reactormonk: or you just forgot to mention something it would really help me if I would have a config file, where I already know it works |
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| 14:16:26 | cheatfate | Araq_, i'm reading macros.html and want to ask you, how nnkAsmStmt working with vcc? because vcc dont have support of inline assembler for x64 targets |
| 14:17:27 | Araq_ | same as the 'asm' keyword works for vcc. not at all, it barfs on the produced C code ... |
| 14:17:47 | Araq_ | the lack of an inline assembler makes the whole compiler a bad joke, if you ask me. |
| 14:19:38 | cheatfate | Araq_, yeah, but thanks |
| 14:21:18 | cheatfate | Araq_, how do you think is it possible to replace msvcrt specific code from nim executable stub |
| 14:21:53 | Araq_ | we need to get rid of lib C dependencies and write our own stuff based on the Windows API. |
| 14:22:20 | cheatfate | what do you think about replacement for setjmp/longjmp |
| 14:23:05 | cheatfate | i think its the only problem |
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| 14:58:37 | cheatfate | Araq_, question about concurrency, how do you think to made it with async? Like call callbacks in threadpoll or start N threads with poll()? |
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| 15:06:45 | Araq_ | cheatfate: not sure, what did I do in my crazy_concurrency branch? :-) |
| 15:06:51 | Araq_ | can't remember. |
| 15:07:20 | cheatfate | there no final stage in crazy_concurrency, just preparations |
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| 15:08:16 | Araq_ | well one solution is to have N threads that listen to the shared table for 'tasks' to execute |
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| 15:10:08 | Araq_ | another solution is to keep it single threaded but since the shared data structures are concurrency safe, you can 'spawn' on your own in a longer running request (whatever that is) |
| 15:10:38 | Araq_ | that's a worse solution since then application developers need to use 'spawn'. |
| 15:11:54 | cheatfate | windows iocp for best performance must be handled by N threads where N = number of cores, so there must be N getqueuedcompletionstatus() |
| 15:13:09 | cheatfate | nginx uses spawn on linux so N processes calling epoll_wait so situation is same |
| 15:13:52 | Araq_ | IME #thread > number of cores is better for performance. |
| 15:16:18 | cheatfate | Araq_, of course it can be better for windows like 2x number of cores... but there no advantage for linux/bsd because there no kernel threads like in windows |
| 15:16:47 | Araq_ | what about hyperthreading? |
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| 15:18:26 | cheatfate | Araq_, lol ok let formula be #threads = #cores * 2 * 2 if HT else 1 |
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| 16:39:37 | ephja | I wonder if it's possible to generate binary expression trees with glossolalia |
| 16:40:03 | ephja | PN ftw though ;) |
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| 18:40:20 | ephja | getType(enumType) returns "typeDesc[enum enum a b, c]". is this right? |
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| 19:00:24 | Araq_ | ephja: no it might be related to some bug I'm hunting |
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| 19:42:25 | ephja | ok |
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| 23:17:05 | krux02 | Araq_: why do bracket expressions have a very big impact on the way untyped ast's are parsed? |
| 23:18:22 | krux02 | dumpTree: |
| 23:18:23 | krux02 | C[i,m,n] = A[l,i,k] ∗ B[l,k,j] ∗ D[j,n,m] + A[l,i,m] ∗ E[l,n] |
| 23:18:23 | krux02 | C = A * B * D + A * E |
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| 23:19:01 | Araq_ | what's wrong with it? |
| 23:19:13 | krux02 | the second one parses with "Infix +" as the first token on the right hand side of the assignment |
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| 23:19:42 | krux02 | the first one parses with command BracketExpre A |
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| 23:22:55 | krux02 | this is the output: http://pastebin.com/QyX004mF |
| 23:24:02 | krux02 | I would expect, that the order and the kind of the nim nodes would not change from the first and the second version |
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| 23:25:18 | krux02 | I would expect that the version with the bracket experssions would be the same as the one without the bracket expressions, just with bracket expressions instead of the identifiers |
| 23:25:21 | Araq_ | what the fuck, that AST is completely wrong :-) |
| 23:25:28 | Araq_ | I agree with you. |
| 23:26:01 | krux02 | should I create an issue on github? |
| 23:26:48 | Araq_ | but it's because your asterisks are Unicode shit ;-) |
| 23:26:54 | Araq_ | use Ascii ones |
| 23:27:39 | Araq_ | unicode asterisks are parses as ordinary identifiers, not operators |
| 23:27:47 | Araq_ | which completely explains the difference. |
| 23:28:42 | krux02 | maybe then you should add a message in the compiler when something is not ascii |
| 23:29:00 | krux02 | I think it came from copy paste |
| 23:29:02 | Araq_ | the spec says it's valid Nim code. |
| 23:29:52 | cheatfate | interesting, why everybody playing with macroses :) |
| 23:30:18 | Araq_ | I could add warnings, but dealing with unicode is always so messy. and you need to constantly update all these lookup tables. yay, a moving "standard". |
| 23:30:46 | cheatfate | dom96, common, please review my PR i want to add more to dispute :) |
| 23:31:11 | krux02 | cheatfate: I think the reason is, because macros are the strong features of nim |
| 23:31:46 | krux02 | if you don't use macros, why not use a programming language that is a bit more stable |
| 23:31:56 | krux02 | like D |
| 23:32:10 | cheatfate | just because i love C |
| 23:32:27 | cheatfate | and assembler |
| 23:33:13 | cheatfate | i think macroses just give some comfort even not for yourself but for somebody who will use them :) |
| 23:33:59 | krux02 | Araq_: thanks a lot, I would never thought that there was non-Ascii |
| 23:34:42 | krux02 | I now feel the urge to put a greek question mark into someone's c++ sourcecode |
| 23:34:57 | Araq_ | try trigraphs instead. |
| 23:35:06 | Araq_ | use !!? in a string literal. |
| 23:35:40 | Araq_ | speaking of which ... does Nim produce that sequence in its C output? |
| 23:35:46 | Araq_ | that would be wrong ... :-) |
| 23:41:34 | krux02 | the unicode definitively confused emacs about where identifiers were |
| 23:42:43 | krux02 | that expression uses l as identifiers, and nim warn about them, but with each unicode asterisk, the warnings were off by one more column |
| 23:43:37 | krux02 | I did not create any code based on the asterisk values, it was all just compile time, and therefore not in the generated C code |
| 23:52:10 | Araq_ | the columns are byte-based :P |
| 23:52:42 | Araq_ | which is wrong, but not hard to fix, except perhaps some editors actually prefer bytebased columns |