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06:14:51FromGitter<gogolxdong> how would the license change?
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07:30:33FromGitter<dom96> hi
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11:11:35FromGitter<gogolxdong> hi
11:12:21FromGitter<gogolxdong> I am lxdong
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11:16:28FromGitter<gogolxdong> nim in china,remember?
11:23:06FromGitter<gogolxdong> I am not so professional on nim,from the ground,but I watch the going closely and I recommonded nim to Turning Publish House in China,they said need observing.
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11:24:46FromGitter<gogolxdong> which is what I have done and doing
11:29:31FromGitter<Araq> @gogolxdong nice. I hope "Nim" doesn't mean something bad in China. could be a chinese term, right?
11:30:08FromGitter<gogolxdong> yes
11:31:04FromGitter<gogolxdong> but not esay to pronounce
11:40:58FromGitter<gogolxdong> no like go,rust,c and many other languages,their vowels are open or powerful,n and m are both nasal
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11:44:49FromGitter<gogolxdong> and it already led someone to pronunce like a not-so-bad but never good word,means your mother
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11:48:35krux02gogolxdong: it's nice to see that nim has an impact on the other side of the world too. If there are any concerns about anything, just stay active, ask here on the chato or in the forums. We enjoy doing things that have potential to increase the community size
11:50:34FromGitter<gogolxdong> I will
11:55:16FromGitter<gogolxdong> everything introduced into China is at a slow pace.I think it is the downside of the other side world.
12:01:23krux02don't worry it's slow everywhere, no matter where on the world
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12:11:07FromGitter<gogolxdong> it can't be same pace unless we are in a distributed system:)
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13:04:49yglukhovAraq: do spawned functions allocate in their thread-local heap?
13:10:17Araqsure
13:28:10yglukhovAraq: having a ref MyObj from another thread, can I set its properties to null? Will GC be smart to understand that the ref being set to null is allocated on another thread?
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13:28:42yglukhovref MyObj was obtained by my thread by hacky ptr casts if that matters
13:28:55Araqforeign pointers cannot stay 'ref'
13:29:38DefinitelyDecoHey all, any reason I can't join #nim from IRCCloud?
13:30:24AraqDefinitelyDeco: Troll prevention
13:31:14DefinitelyDecoAh, makes sense. Unfortunate for me though, I use and pay for IRCCloud...
13:33:16DefinitelyDecoOh, looking at the logs I see this was done only yesterday.
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13:33:45sp33der89oooohhhhhhh
13:33:54sp33der89the FromGitter chats those are from a gitter chat!
13:34:04sp33der89Man I really need sleep I guess
13:38:03yglukhovAraq: why not?
13:40:49Araqyglukhov: because the GC follows them and thinks it belongs to its own heap
13:41:39yglukhovAraq: even if it does... what can go wrong?
13:44:33yglukhovAraq: i'm testing this approach currently. and everything looks relatively stable. passing big objects with raster data to threadpool, calling GC_fullCollect evrywhere, etc. obviously, i keep the original data immutable.
13:45:41yglukhovAraq: i tried to nullify some refs in original data, but looks like it causes crashes further in code. apart from that, looks stable.
13:46:28Araqused -d:useGcAssert -d:useSysAssert ?
13:46:41yglukhovcool. will do.
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14:03:24yglukhovAraq: with all your assertions and checks:on - smooth as butter. if i nullify the "foreign" ref, i get [SYSASSERT] CollectZCT: isAllocatedPtr. if i don't mess with it - we're good.
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14:14:36FromGitter<dom96> DefinitelyDeco: You should be able to join via IRC Cloud. What prevents you from joining? We only redirect freenode webchat to
14:14:38FromGitter<dom96> #nim-web
14:14:53FromGitter<dom96> Nothing else.
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14:26:07yglukhovdom96: hi. any opinion about my pr to nimble?
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14:26:46FromGitter<dom96> Only skimmed it, will look into it in more detail when I get home.
14:27:13yglukhovkk thanks
14:37:27PMunchI'm trying to do some really simple handling of XML in Nim. Basically I just want to get all <object> tags and extract a few attributes from it. xmlparser is a bit tedious to work with, what are the options? I'm looking at xmltools right now but it is seriously lacking in documentation (looking it you vegansk)..
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14:46:14hohlerdewhere can I download mingw.zip which is downloaded by the installer?
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15:29:54Araqhttp://nim-lang.org/download/mingw32.zip
15:29:58Araqhttp://nim-lang.org/download/mingw64.zip
15:30:36Araqsince I don't use hierarchies I can guess the names :P
15:31:23*Araq imagines a world without directories.
15:31:27*Araq is happy.
15:31:52PMunchI'm trying to have a simple function which echoes some text (usage information for a terminal program). But it says I have to discard it's return value (function doesn't return anything) even with the {.discardable.} pragma..
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15:33:05flyxPMunch: show your code
15:33:31PMunchproc echoUsage() {.discardable.} =
15:33:53PMunchThat's the functions. Contains a single echo statement, and is called simply with echoUsage
15:34:20flyxpaste the complete code somewhere so we can reproduce it.
15:34:32PMunchhttp://ix.io/1p3B
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15:34:44PMunchWhoops, wrong file
15:34:56PMunchhttp://ix.io/1p3C
15:34:58PMunchThere
15:35:13flyxthat's a binary
15:35:25PMunchYeah, posted another link as well
15:36:07flyxyou missed `()` after echoUsage
15:36:17PMunchix is a program I can pipe output to and it gives me a link to it. So I did "cat gl<tab> | ix" and it took the binary instead of the .nim file
15:36:29flyxso the compiler thinks you refer to `echoUsage` as a proc value
15:36:42flyxinstead of calling it
15:36:43flyxthat's why you get the error
15:36:54PMunchAaah
15:37:23PMunchThat makes sense
15:37:50Araqreport it anyway
15:38:00Araqit's dead simple to improve this error message
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15:40:49PMunchgithub.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/4813
15:40:50PMunchDone
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16:14:41krux02I was just reading the Nim manual again, and I stubled upon the strong spaces chapter.
16:15:16krux02Can it be removed from the manual into a section about experimental compiler switches?
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16:16:57krux02the manual is a place where newcomers read about the feature, and to be honest it's a weird feature that is also not really important to the language
16:17:41krux02So I think it's best for beginners if they instantly forget about that part in the manual an continue
16:18:00krux02and for that situation it would be better if the chaper would not be there in the first place
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16:20:06federico3+1 krux02 please send a PR :)
16:23:36krux02if I made a pull request it would just remove that section, not putting it somewher, where it might be useful
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17:04:49flyxis it possible to invoke `nim doc2` with multiple source files?
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18:06:19flyxcan I set the nimdoc.cfg file the compiler uses?
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18:10:44flyxand, how would I modify it to write „Module yaml.serialization“ instead of „Module serialization“ on top of the HTML anyway
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18:11:17Araqflyx: yup, just have your own nimdoc.cfg next to your project.nim
18:11:54flyxAraq: I have that, but I need different ones for different files. because the subpackages should have „Module yaml.$name“ as title
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18:12:42flyxit looks like the title is kind of hardwoded
18:12:43flyx*hardcoded
18:14:58flyxah, I can just set it in doc comments
18:15:10flyxthen everything's find
18:15:12flyx*fine
18:17:17dom96yglukhov: you there?
18:17:28yglukhovyep
18:17:53dom96I'll merge your changes, just wondering about one thing (see my comment)
18:18:01dom96I guess you just wanted to improve the code a bit
18:18:10dom96But I prefer the old way to be honest
18:18:17dom96I'll merge it as-is though anyway
18:19:39dom96okay, merged
18:19:48dom96How are you going to use this vcs revision info?
18:20:38yglukhovdom96: commented on your comment. this change is really minor, but just from algorithic pov, something["bla"] most likely involves hash calculation of "bla", and then hash lookup.
18:20:50dom96yeah, you're right.
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18:23:16yglukhovdom96: i'm currently trying to split our project to subprojects, because our commit-to-deploy-time is around 2 hours at best, because there's a lot of resource packing, autotests, it compiles to several platforms, etc.
18:23:58yglukhovdom96: the plan is to split both sources and resources to subprojects. that can be built, tested, and even deployed independently.
18:24:13yglukhovdeployed = resource packing + upload to cdn
18:25:28yglukhovdom96: the main project is going to include all of subprojects, and built the resulting executable, which refers to resource urls by some unique/persistent/reproducible id.
18:25:41yglukhovand this id i want to be git hash.
18:25:56yglukhovdom96: does that make sense?
18:27:54dom96hrm, sure.
18:28:04dom96I think this info is useful for all sorts of things anyway
18:28:15dom96so it would have ended up in the nimblemeta at some point
18:28:31dom96(or somewhere else, although I think nimblemeta is the right place)
18:28:51yglukhovso that involves lots of compile time magic. i have already invented a registry-of-repos-repo, which contains a file with all subprojects. this file is used by nimble file to install dependencies and by main project to import all subprojects. so all subrojects are listed only once. crazy stuff nim+nimble allows.
18:29:30Araqjust ensure you keep it secret. we don't need more advertisement for Nim :P
18:29:31yglukhovyep, "useful for all sorts of things" is what i thought =)
18:29:34Araq(kidding)
18:30:31yglukhovbtw, were gonna go public in a couple of month ;)
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18:31:17yglukhovim gonna ask our designers to add nim logo to the splash screen. hope you still dont mind :)
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18:33:14Araqwow, nice
18:33:27dom96yglukhov: awesome!
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19:26:06flyxcan anything be done against nim doc2 generating broken links for imports?
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19:26:42flyxI mean, any stdlib import is being linked, so if I do not happen to have all the stdlib docs lying around, those will be dead links
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19:37:26Araqflyx: we should just fix that
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21:22:19cheatfate_dom96, i think we need to delete tasynceverror.nim test, because it hiding errors
21:23:24cheatfate_it requires only "Error: unhandled exception:" string, but in comments we see that EPIPE must be generated, but for current version asyncdispatch generated error is "Error: unhandled exception: Bad file descriptor [OSError]"
21:24:13cheatfate_and it happens not in send operation, because in both variants send to closed socket was completed successfully, but current version trying to update it so generate EBADF
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